Episode #470 - Growing People, Growing Business, Celebrating 100 Episodes Of ScaleUp Wisdom - with Granger Forson
Release Date: 04/09/2025
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info_outlineHey, I’m Granger Forson – find me at www.bizsmart-gloucestershire.co.uk or connect with me on LinkedIn! In this special episode, we’re looking inward on my own business journey, from the days of engineering beer taps to embracing the power of continuous improvement.
I’ll be sharing the highs and lows of ditching the corporate path in favour of scaling up my own adventure. You’ll hear my learning from 100 recoding’s of ScaleUp Radio podcast and growing my own business, and how nurturing a culture of experimentation built a strong foundation for BizSmart Gloucestershire.
Listen in as I reflect on countless interviews with fellow entrepreneurs, each story helping me refine my approach to growth, strategy, and joyful leadership. My experience in Lean and 2 Second Lean shaped a coaching style that focuses on people-first development, from identifying strengths to leading with clarity.
Throughout this conversation, I’ll reveal the five key pillars that every business owner can use to strengthen their own enterprise, covering everything from repeatable processes to forging the right mindset in your team. If you’ve ever wondered how to turn your passion into a sustainable future, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
By the end, you’ll be inspired to keep innovating, keep improving, and keep celebrating every milestone on your way to scaling your own dreams. Let’s keep going and growing together!
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Drawing on BizSmart’s own research and experiences of working with hundreds of owner-managers, Kevin Brent explores the key reasons why most organisations do not scale and how the challenges change as they reach different milestones on the ScaleUp Journey. He then details a practical step by step guide to successfully navigate between the milestones in the form of ESUS - a proven system for entrepreneurs to scale up.
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Resources:
All episodes of ScaleUp Radio that Granger talked about can be found here:
https://www.bizsmart-gloucestershire.co.uk/scale-up-radio/
Robin Waite - Take Your Shot - https://www.robinwaite.com/books/take-your-shot
2 Second Lean by Paul Akers - https://paulakers.net/books/2-second-lean
The Road Less Stupid - https://keystothevault.com/the-road-less-stupid-advice-from-the-chairman-of-the-board/
No BS Marketing - https://magneticmarketing.com/
Turn This Ship Around - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/turn-the-ship-around-a-true-story-of-building-leaders-by-breaking-the-rules-l-david-marquet/3549368?ean=9780241250945
Extreme Ownership - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/extreme-ownership-how-u-s-navy-seals-lead-and-win-jocko-willink/651009?ean=9781250183866
Start With Why - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/start-with-why-how-great-leaders-inspire-everyone-to-take-action-simon-sinek/239994?ean=9780241958223
The Infinite Game - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-infinite-game-simon-sinek/185827?ean=9780241385630
Lean Made Simple - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/lean-made-simple-creating-pull-and-flow-david-sykes/4914053?ean=9781716549724
ScaleUp by Nick Bradley podcast - https://highvalueexit.com/podcast/
Lean Made Simple podcast - https://www.leanmadesimple.com/podcast
Shut Up and Sit Down podcast - https://www.shutupandsitdown.com/
Russell Brunson podcast - https://www.russellbrunson.com/my-podcast
GMail - https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox
Mile IQ - https://mileiq.com/en-gb
Lead Connector app - https://www.leadconnectorhq.com/
The Rhythm90 Web App - https://www.esusgroup.co.uk/