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Episode #483 - ScaleUp Presentation - with Tom Hughes from Gemba Docs

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Release Date: 05/26/2025

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In this ScaleUp Club exclusive Q&A edition of ScaleUp Radio, Kevin Brent is joined by Tom Hughes, CEO of Gemba Docs, for a practical and eye-opening discussion on Lean Thinking for SMEs. Tom brings decades of experience in operational excellence and process improvement and shares how small businesses can adopt lean principles without over-complicating things.

This session breaks down what lean really looks like in a small business context – and it’s not about cutting costs or mimicking manufacturing giants. It’s about reducing struggle, improving value flow, and making work life better for your team. From leadership behaviours to team rituals, Tom shares real-world tactics that any SME can start using today.

Episode Highlights:

  • Why the traditional 8 wastes don't always translate to service businesses – and what to focus on instead
  • The biggest enabler of lean success? Leadership behaviour and priorities
  • How to kickstart a lean journey: Start with yourself, then pull others in
  • The power of small wins and team celebrations to build momentum
  • Simple tools that make a difference: team huddles, improvement channels, and documenting processes with Gemba Docs

Make sure you don’t miss any future episodes by subscribing to ScaleUp Radio wherever you like to listen to your podcasts. You can also nominate a guest for ScaleUp Radio if you know someone with an interesting ScaleUp story – you can find how in the shownotes.

For now, continue listening for the full discussion with Tom.

 

Scaling up your business isn't easy, and can be a little daunting. Let ScaleUp Radio make it a little easier for you. With guests who have been where you are now, and can offer their thoughts and advice on several aspects of business. ScaleUp Radio is the business podcast you've been waiting for.

If you would like to be a guest on ScaleUp Radio, please click here:

https://bizsmarts.co.uk/scaleupradio/kevin

You can get in touch with Kevin & Granger here:

kevin@biz-smart.co.uk

grangerf@biz-smart.co.uk

 

Kevin's Latest Book Is Available!

Drawing on BizSmart’s own research and experiences of working with hundreds of owner-managers, Kevin Brent explores the key reasons why most organisations do not scale and how the challenges change as they reach different milestones on the ScaleUp Journey. He then details a practical step by step guide to successfully navigate between the milestones in the form of ESUS - a proven system for entrepreneurs to scale up.

More on the Book HERE - https://www.esusgroup.co.uk/

 

Tom can be found here:

linkedin.com/in/tom-hughes-7222562

https://3rddigital.com/

 

Resources:

2 Second Lean Book by Paul Akers - https://paulakers.net/books/2-second-lean

Lean Made Simple by David Sykes - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/lean-made-simple-creating-pull-and-flow-david-sykes/4914053?ean=9781716549724

Improvement Starts With I by Tom Hughes - https://improvementstartswithi.com/

Ryan Tierney - Lean Mde Simple YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@leanmadesimple