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Episode #598 - ScaleUp Club - AI Agents, Anti-Fragile Teams & Hiring for Outcomes - with Rafmary Baker

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Release Date: 04/27/2026

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Hi there and welcome back to another edition of ScaleUp Radio, the podcast brought to you by Smart90, inspired by the Entrepreneurial ScaleUp System and designed to make navigating our ScaleUp journeys that little bit easier by learning from others' experiences. I’m Kevin Brent and in today's episode I’m joined by returning guest Rafmary for a live Q&A session recorded at our ScaleUp Club.

This episode is structured a little differently and brings together three key elements. First, our latest AI Pulse update, where we explore how tools like Claude Co-Work are moving AI beyond content into real workflow automation. Second, a look at this month’s ScaleUp theme around building teams for outcomes, not roles. And third, a live Q&A with Rafmary, sharing practical insights and answering real scaling challenges from the room.

One standout message really captures the discussion — most businesses don’t struggle because of lack of effort, but because the founder becomes the bottleneck.

If you’re tired of ending the week busy but no further forward, Smart90 might be for you. It’s a simple 90-day execution rhythm with an AI alignment check that keeps your daily focus tied to what actually matters. Try it free at Smart90.co.uk

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For now, continue listening for the full discussion with our ScaleUp Club panel.

Scaling up your business isn't easy, and can be a little daunting. Let ScaleUp Radio make it a little easier for you. With guests who have been where you are now, and can offer their thoughts and advice on several aspects of business. ScaleUp Radio is the business podcast you've been waiting for.

If you would like to be a guest on ScaleUp Radio, please click here:

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You can get in touch with Kevin here:

kevin@biz-smart.co.uk

 

 

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Drawing on BizSmart’s own research and experiences of working with hundreds of owner-managers, Kevin Brent explores the key reasons why most organisations do not scale and how the challenges change as they reach different milestones on the ScaleUp Journey. He then details a practical step by step guide to successfully navigate between the milestones in the form of ESUS - a proven system for entrepreneurs to scale up.

More on the Book HERE - https://www.esusgroup.co.uk/

 

Rafmary can be found here:

https://www.cambridgebusinessonline.com/