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In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, host Kevin Brent is joined by Michaela Cusack, solicitor and co-owner of NBR, to explore what really happens when you acquire an established business and then set about changing its direction. Michaela and her business partner Matt acquired NBR in 2020. They were stepping into an unfamiliar intellectual property sector, taking responsibility for a long-established team and, almost immediately, dealing with the impact of Covid. Their rationale for the acquisition was compelling. Through Matt’s work in mergers and acquisitions, they had seen how businesses...
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What does your business really promise its customers – and would your team, your suppliers and your customers all give the same answer? This special edition of ScaleUp Radio was recorded live at our latest ScaleUp Club, where we explored the theme “Brand Promise: Say it, mean it, live it.” Rather than our usual one-to-one conversation, this episode brings together three parts of the ScaleUp Club session: an AI Pulse update from Paul Rhodes of Green Gorilla Software, some thoughts from Kevin Brent on why brand promise is a strategic issue rather than simply a marketing one, and a...
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What happens when you spot a problem in your own life, create a solution at home, and gradually discover there could be a much bigger business hiding inside it? In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, Kevin Brent talks to Carole Duck, founder of Duxanall Dogbedz, about building a product-led business from the kitchen table, bootstrapping its growth and finding opportunities to move from a handmade product towards a more scalable and potentially higher-margin business. Carole’s original product came from a very practical problem: a puppy that kept chewing expensive dog beds. Her solution was a...
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In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, Kevin Brent is joined by Peter Laughter for a fascinating discussion about distributed leadership, why traditional command and control management is increasingly becoming a constraint on growing businesses, and what leaders can do instead. Peter knows the command and control model from experience. He grew a staffing business from around $500,000 to $12 million in revenue in five years. But that success eventually exposed a problem familiar to many growing businesses: when too many decisions and too much responsibility sit with the person at the top, the leader...
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In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, Kevin Brent is joined by Caroline Chilley and Harriet, co-founders of Boutique Housekeeping, a business that is changing the way busy families think about support in the home. Boutique Housekeeping sits in the space between a traditional cleaning service and employing full-time household staff. Its house managers provide a much broader service, helping with housekeeping, tidying, laundry, shopping, meal preparation, errands and PA-style tasks. But this conversation is about far more than housekeeping. It is a fascinating ScaleUp story about finding the right...
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What happens when the thing that got your business growing becomes the very thing stopping it from scaling? In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, Kevin Brent is joined by Thom Van Dycke to explore a challenge that will be familiar to many founder led businesses: growth initially comes because of the founder’s network, relationships, energy and ability to sell. But eventually, there are only so many people the founder knows and only so many hours in the day. At that point, the founder can become the bottleneck. Thom’s own journey into business is unusual. After spending around 20 years as a...
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In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, host Kevin Brent is joined by entrepreneur Rachel Hill, whose journey takes us from building and selling a multi site childcare business to breathing new life into a closed model village and launching a new consumer brand almost by accident. Rachel started Hillside Childcare at just 26, converting a granny flat into a 16 place nursery as a way of helping to pay a new mortgage. That first nursery eventually became a four site operation looking after 299 children. What makes Rachel’s story particularly interesting is not simply the growth. It is what she...
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In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, host Kevin Brent is joined by John Readman, founder of ASK BOSCO and Modo25, to explore what it really takes to turn a big idea into a focused, scalable business. John's journey offers a particularly useful lesson for founders: sometimes scaling isn't about doing more. It's about narrowing your focus. ASK BOSCO was created to tackle a problem familiar to many e-commerce businesses. Marketing teams can see return on ad spend, finance teams can see profitability, and platforms such as Google, Meta and TikTok all report their own versions of performance. But...
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What makes your business genuinely different? And, more importantly, could your team explain it without you in the room? In this episode of ScaleUp Radio, Kevin Brent talks with Simon Bowen about the Models Method, the power of visual thinking, and why growing businesses need to codify the distinctive thinking that sits behind what they do. Simon argues that many founder-led businesses have something genuinely special, but much of it remains locked inside the founder’s head. As the business grows, that thinking can become diluted internally. The result is that customers increasingly struggle...
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This episode of ScaleUp Radio is a little different. We’re taking you inside one of our monthly ScaleUp Club sessions, where members get the opportunity to explore some of the challenges that come with building and scaling a business, share their experiences and put questions to our guest. This month, our main theme was Aligning Personal & Business Goals, and we welcomed back James West, co-founder of ONLE, for a Q&A about building a business that supports the life you actually want to lead. We also had an AI Pulse update from Tim Winstanley, looking at AI watermarking, the...
info_outlineIn this episode of ScaleUp Radio, host Kevin Brent is joined by entrepreneur Rachel Hill, whose journey takes us from building and selling a multi site childcare business to breathing new life into a closed model village and launching a new consumer brand almost by accident.
Rachel started Hillside Childcare at just 26, converting a granny flat into a 16 place nursery as a way of helping to pay a new mortgage.
That first nursery eventually became a four site operation looking after 299 children.
What makes Rachel’s story particularly interesting is not simply the growth. It is what she learnt about making a business repeatable, creating a strong culture, managing one of the largest costs in a people intensive business and, ultimately, building a company capable of operating without her.
That last point became particularly important when Rachel decided to sell.
After years of being the person everyone turned to when something went wrong, the pressures following COVID left her questioning whether she still wanted to be the one responsible for fixing every problem.
The decision to sell came remarkably quickly.
During a dog walk, Rachel decided it was time. Rather than formally taking the business to market, she approached an established buyer directly through LinkedIn.
Five months later, the deal was complete.
Rachel handled much of an intensive due diligence process herself because she wanted to protect her staff and families from unnecessary uncertainty. She also rejected the first offer, negotiated a price she was comfortable with and ultimately achieved a clean exit with a one off payment and no requirement to remain with the business.
One of the standout lessons from the conversation is this:
A business that can operate without its owner is not only easier to run. It can also be considerably more valuable when the time comes to sell.
Rachel had developed systems, policies, procedures and a management structure that meant Hillside was not completely dependent upon her day to day involvement. That independence became an important asset during the sale.
But selling Hillside did not mean Rachel stopped being entrepreneurial.
While the sale was taking place, she bought Bondville Model Village, a closed and run down one acre attraction containing around 200 miniature buildings.
Rachel saw the potential in an underdog.
After months of renovation, Bondville reopened, but the first version of the business model was not right. Trying to operate throughout the year meant the winter numbers simply did not work.
Rather than persist with the original plan, Rachel changed it.
Bondville became a seasonal attraction, creating a business model better suited to customer behaviour and the economics of the site.
That willingness to change direction appears again in Rachel’s latest venture.
Unable to find the right candles for Bondville’s gift shop, she created her own.
The result was 45 by Rachel Hill, a range of candles inspired by the model village, each incorporating a miniature keepsake and its own story.
They repeatedly sold out, leading Rachel to explore how the range could grow beyond Bondville through a dedicated Shopify store.
In this episode
Kevin and Rachel discuss:
• How a 16 place nursery became a four site childcare group serving 299 children
• Why replication and strong operating systems were critical to growing Hillside
• How Rachel maintained consistency as the business expanded across multiple locations
• Why staffing became one of the toughest challenges in the business, particularly after COVID
• The importance of culture and creating genuine buy in from the team
• Why Rachel closely monitored staff wages as a percentage of turnover
• The pressures that come when the founder remains the organisation’s ultimate problem solver
• What finally prompted Rachel to sell Hillside
• Why she chose an off market approach rather than putting the business openly up for sale
• How she approached a potential acquirer directly through LinkedIn
• What five months of due diligence looked like from the seller’s side
• Why Rachel kept the sale confidential from the wider team during the process
• How she valued the business using profit multiples and property values
• Why being prepared to reject the first offer mattered
• The value of building a company capable of running without its owner
• Why Rachel bought a closed model village while simultaneously selling another business
• How Bondville was renovated and relaunched
• Why Rachel abandoned the original year round operating model
• The importance of accepting quickly when the economics of an idea do not work
• How a product created to solve a problem in Bondville’s gift shop became a new business opportunity
• Why Rachel believes entrepreneurs should benchmark themselves against the best rather than simply comparing themselves with local competitors
• The value of hiring people who are stronger than you in the areas where you are weak
The one key thing
Build the business so that it does not need you.
Rachel’s experience with Hillside demonstrates why owner independence matters long before an exit is being considered.
Systems, procedures, capable managers and a strong culture helped Rachel grow across multiple sites. They also meant that when she eventually decided to sell, the buyer was acquiring a functioning business rather than simply buying Rachel’s job.
For any owner manager thinking about ScaleUp, that creates an important question:
If you disappeared from the business for three months tomorrow, what would stop working?
The answers are likely to point directly towards the systems, people and responsibilities that need attention next.
Rachel’s ScaleUp philosophy
Rachel describes her approach as “go big or go home.”
Rather than benchmarking yourself only against the businesses around you, she believes in looking at the organisations doing something exceptionally well and asking what can be learnt from them.
Equally, founders do not have to be good at everything.
Rachel recognises her own strengths as creative and entrepreneurial and brings in people who can handle areas where she is weaker, including technology.
That allows the founder to spend more time doing the things where they can create the greatest value.
Before you listen
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Listen to the episode
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