He Burned Out as a Pastor (Then Discovered this…) w/Mark Buchanan
SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
Release Date: 05/01/2026
He Burned Out as a Pastor (Then Discovered this…) w/Mark Buchanan
SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
Most of us have quietly convinced ourselves that busy-ness is a badge of honor. Mark Buchanan believed the same thing — until it almost cost him his health, his marriage, and his connection with God. And what he found on the other side of that is something the modern church has almost entirely stopped talking about. In this conversation, Linda and I sit down with Mark Buchanan — author of The Rest of God, God Walk, and his new historical fiction novel What Is Left of the Night — to talk about why busyness kills the heart, what Sabbath really means as more than a day, how walking is a...
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
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info_outlineMost of us have quietly convinced ourselves that busy-ness is a badge of honor.
Mark Buchanan believed the same thing — until it almost cost him his health, his marriage, and his connection with God. And what he found on the other side of that is something the modern church has almost entirely stopped talking about.
In this conversation, Linda and I sit down with Mark Buchanan — author of The Rest of God, God Walk, and his new historical fiction novel What Is Left of the Night — to talk about why busyness kills the heart, what Sabbath really means as more than a day, how walking is a deeply spiritual practice woven all through Scripture.
His book The Rest of God is what started our practice of monthly sabbaticals 13 years ago, and this conversation took us somewhere we didn't expect.
WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE
Here's a little of what we cover in this episode:
- Why Mark nearly burned out as a pastor — and how discovering Sabbath saved his marriage and his ministry
- Why Sabbath isn't just about a day of the week — it's an attitude and a way of seeing everything
- The phrase "busyness kills the heart" and what it actually looks like in your everyday life
- How Bob and Linda's 13-year practice of monthly sabbaticals grew out of one book — and led to a full year off
- The spiritual practice of walking, and the surprising number of times it shows up in Scripture
- Mark's new historical fiction novel about a French village that protected 2,500 Jews during WWII with zero casualties
- What connects Sabbath, walking, and a village that simply refused to live by the world's rules
RESOURCES MENTIONED
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