No Fees No Equity Loss: A New Way to Scale Your Business
Service Business Mastery for Skilled Trades: HVAC, Plumbing & Electrical Home Service
Release Date: 04/22/2026
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info_outlineMost business owners think they only have two options when they want to scale:
Pay expensive consultants… or give up equity to investors.
But what if there was a third option?
In this episode of Service Business Mastery, Tersh Blissett and Joshua Crouch sit down with Mike Michalowicz and Greg Eckler from The Prosper Group to break down a completely different approach to scaling service businesses.
Instead of charging fees or taking ownership, their model focuses on partnering with business owners, executing alongside them, and only getting paid when the business becomes more profitable.
What You Will Learn in This Episode
• Why most consulting models fail to deliver real results
• The downside of giving up equity to investors
• How a no-fee, no-equity partnership model works
• Why alignment of incentives is critical for growth
• The biggest red flags in struggling businesses
• How debt structure impacts your ability to scale
• What “return on payroll” means and why it matters
• Why overstaffing is killing many businesses
• The difference between A, B, and C players
• Why titles can hurt performance inside organizations
• How to match tasks to talent instead of titles
• Why most businesses are doing too much unnecessary work
Timestamps
00:00 Importance of hiring A players
05:33 Formation of The Prosper Group
08:24 Making the business sellable
11:50 Northcote Parkinson's observation
14:27 Focusing on essential tasks
18:10 Staying true to coaching values
20:50 What they look for in companies
25:12 Evaluating employee fit and performance
28:05 Aligning roles and maximizing talent
31:42 Appreciating small businesses
32:27 Small businesses and workforce impact
35:33 Managing cash flow challenges
39:50 Talking with potential clients
41:52 Understanding the balance sheet basics
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Tersh Blissett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tershblissett/
Joshua Crouch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-crouch/
Mike Michalowicz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemichalowicz/
Greg Eckler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-eckler-68b79630/
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