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81. Cassie Nicholas Returns: New Trauma Memories Lead to New Ways to Heal!

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

Release Date: 04/16/2024

169. Shannon Porter: 169. Shannon Porter: "What They Don’t Say" Is in The House...and The Social Media Reels People Can’t Ignore

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

I’m happy to announce that I’m joined once again by Shannon Porter, host and co-founder of the What They Don’t Say podcast. Shannon returns to talk about the evolution of her work, her growing presence on social media, and what’s driving her to speak more openly, and more frequently, about the realities of surviving rape and sexual assault. Our conversation centers on the reels and posts Shannon is producing to help shed light on what survivors face every day: how people respond when a survivor shares their story, the misunderstandings that follow trauma, and the emotional labor...

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168. Marina Lacerda: When Epstein Power, Money, and Rape Collided — and She Survived show art 168. Marina Lacerda: When Epstein Power, Money, and Rape Collided — and She Survived

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

For decades, Marina was known only as “Minor Victim-1” in legal documents — a label that stripped away her humanity while protecting those responsible. In this conversation, Marina reclaims what was taken from her: her voice, her story, and her identity. She speaks not just about what happened, but about what it costs to survive abuse at that scale — the trauma that lingers, the mistrust that settles in the body, and the long road back to agency and truth. This episode is not sensational, and it is not speculative. It is grounded in lived experience and courageous truth-telling....

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167. Erin Williamson: Love146 — Pulling Children Back from the Darkness show art 167. Erin Williamson: Love146 — Pulling Children Back from the Darkness

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

Erin Williamson joins me for an incredibly important conversation about her work with Love146, a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting children from human trafficking and walking alongside young survivors on their path to healing. Erin shares what this work truly looks like — not the headlines, but the day-to-day reality of survivor care, long-term recovery, and prevention education — and how essential it is to understand trafficking as a real issue affecting real children in communities across the country. We discuss the profound impact trafficking has on children’s brains,...

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166. Jason Patrick Berry: Secrets Beneath a Perfect Childhood show art 166. Jason Patrick Berry: Secrets Beneath a Perfect Childhood

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

This week on Sexual Assault Survivor Stories, I sit down with Jason Patrick Berry, author of the brave and unflinchingly honest memoir Secrets Beneath. Jason’s story is one that quietly breaks your heart and then slowly helps rebuild it. On the outside, his childhood looked perfectly normal, even picturesque. But behind closed doors lived a painful reality of abuse, secrecy, and survival that no child should ever have to experience. In Secrets Beneath, Jason pulls back that veil and walks us through the lasting impact of trauma, including post trauma stress, anxiety, and emotional...

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165. Anonymous: A Return Guest Shares Some Meaningful Impacts of Being a Guest on SASS show art 165. Anonymous: A Return Guest Shares Some Meaningful Impacts of Being a Guest on SASS

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

This week on Sexual Assault Survivor Stories, I’m joined once again by a guest whose voice made a deep impact the first time she appeared on the show. For this episode, she’s choosing to remain anonymous and will be known as “Ann”—a decision that becomes increasingly meaningful as you hear why she reached out to return. Ann came back to talk about a part of the survivor experience that rarely gets acknowledged: what happens inside a person after they share their story publicly, and how the emotional ripple effects can show up long after the recording ends. In this conversation, Ann...

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164. Rita Smith: The Voice That Changed the National Conversation show art 164. Rita Smith: The Voice That Changed the National Conversation

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

In this week’s episode of Sexual Assault Survivor Stories, I’m honored to welcome someone whose name has become synonymous with advocacy, leadership, and meaningful systemic change. Rita Smith has spent more than four decades reshaping how this country understands, responds to, and prevents violence against women. From her grassroots beginnings to her national-level impact, Rita has consistently shown up for survivors with a rare blend of humility, strength, and deep psychological insight. Rita’s work reaches across some of the largest platforms in the nation. She has served as Senior...

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163. Anne Marie Hauben: The Truth About Non-consent, Trauma, and Speaking Up show art 163. Anne Marie Hauben: The Truth About Non-consent, Trauma, and Speaking Up

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast with Dave Markel
  Guest: Anne Marie Hauben I’m honored to share this week’s episode of The SASS Podcast with someone whose courage doesn’t just echo across a microphone—it reverberates across decades of silence, retaliation, and survival: Anne Marie Hauben. Anne Marie isn’t just a guest. She is a truth-teller, an advocate, and a woman who refused to let a lifetime of dismissal define her story. After more than 30 years of carrying the weight of an assault she endured at 18 years old, she decided she would not stay silent any...

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162. Dr. David Lisak, PhD: The Man Who Shaped My Work — Sharing Science, Wisdom, and Hope show art 162. Dr. David Lisak, PhD: The Man Who Shaped My Work — Sharing Science, Wisdom, and Hope

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

I’m so honored to share this week’s episode of The SASS Podcast with someone who is far more than a guest—he’s a mentor, a guiding light, and a dear friend: Dr. David Lisak, PhD. I’ve personally known David since 1992, when I met him at a training conference where we were both teaching on rape and sexual assault investigations. From those early days of my journey into trauma-informed investigations, inspired by David, he set the bar for what rigorous, compassionate, science-based work looks like. I’m grateful every day that our paths crossed. Who is David Lisak? David is a...

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161. Diane: Fighting for Justice for Almost 50 Years…Because It’s That Important! show art 161. Diane: Fighting for Justice for Almost 50 Years…Because It’s That Important!

Sexual Assault Survivor Stories Podcast - SASS

I had a SASS listener reach out to me a few months ago via email. It was a short email, but it sure got my attention. The writer, Diane, told me that she had been listening to SASS for a while, and that she was very appreciative of the show, as she is a survivor of military sexual assault (MSA) from almost 50 years ago. She also told me she had sent me a large envelope of important information about her case…certified, return receipt. That’ll peak you’re curiosity! I did get a large envelope a few days later. It was a pretty full, 9x12 , mailing envelope, full of documents—letters, law...

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160. Inside The Epstein Era: An Important Re-airing From The Jan Broberg Show show art 160. Inside The Epstein Era: An Important Re-airing From The Jan Broberg Show

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This week’s episode of Sexual Assault Survivor Stories is a powerful replay of Episode 223 from The Jan Broberg Show — an episode that I was honored to join alongside Beth Magnetic, host of the Mormon True Crime Podcast. In this deeply important conversation, Jan, Beth, and I confront one of the most disturbing and misunderstood realities of our time: how a trafficking operation like Jeffrey Epstein’s could remain functional, protected, and operational for more than four decades — despite countless victims, despite obvious warning signs, despite so many people “knowing” something...

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Recording this episode was a fantastic experience...I was fortunate to have my guest, Cassie Nicholas, join me in the studio! It’s not often that this occurs, as most of my guests are long distances from St. George, UT. But Cassie is staying in a nearby city and was willing to drive into town to record this episode. It was a real delight that we got to see each other in the sense that it was awesome to get caught up on our almost year-long friendship; a friendship that started when Cassie emailed me in June of 2023, asking to be a part of this podcast. (Listening to her previous episode (Episode 36) isn’t a prerequisite to listening to this week’s episode, but it would help put some of Cassie’s dark, painful history into perspective.) It was kind of Cassie to agree to do a follow-up episode with me this week, but the truly powerful aspect of getting together with Cassie, was to meet her in person and experience first-hand her remarkable personality, wit, humor, and deep, deep caring that she has toward all she encounters. See, Cassie is a people person. And I knew that from talking with her last year, but to be in her presence is to feel that powerful energy and love.

Cassie’s childhood was nothing short of horrific. For as far back as she could remember, her father trafficked her to area doctors, business owners, and land barons in and around the small Apalachin town where she grew up in West Virginia. She has no specific memories of the actual rapes, only faces, back rooms, locked doors, pain, and secrets. And to exacerbate the situation, Cassie was constantly physically and emotionally assaulted by her father. He punished her for things he did to her. Further, she had to endure the knowledge that he was doing the same things to Cassie’s older sister who was totally physically and mentally disabled. Cassie carried that grief while doing her best to take care of her sister’s physical and emotional needs, loving her dearly, while agonizing in the physical, emotional, and mental knowledge of the sexual assaults of herself and her sister. Cassie’s mother was a loving and caring mom but she knew nothing of the sexual assaults and rapes that her husband was facilitating on her daughters. Until, one day, she found out, and as a result Cassie’s father eventually poisoned her to death so he could continue doing what he wanted to do with his daughters.

It was hard to hard hear how Cassie had, over the last year, developed new memories of her childhood sexual assault experiences. One was of being hunted in the woods by men who had paid her father for that horrific happening so that they could catch her and violently rape her. And then, when she made her way home, her father punished her for being with men out in the woods.

But Cassie also told me of the many ways that she has developed coping mechanisms and self-therapy techniques that are helping to heal her from her traumatic experiences. The pain and trauma memories continue, but so does the healing. And Cassie is happy. And she doesn’t suffer from depression, or from the suicide attempts and ideation like she did in the not-too-distant past. It is fascinating intriguing to listen to Cassie; and I could go on and on telling you of Cassie’s successes, but I’d rather you listen to this episode, and hear all about it from Cassie herself. Then, when you’ve finished listening, tell others to listen. We need to have more participation in the telling and listening of stories like Cassie’s. We need to normalize these conversations in order to help reduce the prevalence of child and adult sexual assault and rape.

I would greatly appreciate you taking the time to rate this episode and subscribe to Sexual Assault Survivor Stories. I would also appreciate your comments, both in the episode comments, and if you’d like, by emailing me and telling me your thoughts about the show…how it has impacted your life or the life of someone you know. And, as you’ll hear in the episode, Cassie would love to hear from you, too. She’s distancing herself from social media at this time, but if you’d like to communicate with her, you can write to me, and I’ll make sure she gets you message.

Thank you for being part of my efforts, and for your loyalty in listening to the show. Please share this podcast with everyone you know. And remember to do your part to bring justice to victims and survivors of rape and sexual assault…together we can make a difference if we all Start By Believing; because we all know someone whose life has been affected by rape or sexual assault.

 

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