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SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert
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JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and the Unforgettable Titles (Part 2)
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EMILY HOSTETLER: Heaven On Earth
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JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and Unforgettable Titles
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CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State
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JOHN CHISUM: Writing in Your Best Genre
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CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace
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JOHN CHISUM: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres
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ADRIAN THOMPSON: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music
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info_outlineSong Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Claire Bacon (Project Manager, NCS)
Episode Title: CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace
Episode Summary:
In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum introduces a new member of the NCS team: Claire Bacon, NCS Project Manager and music industry pro. With experience at Bethel Music, Pure Mosaic, and a degree from Middle Tennessee State University, Claire brings a unique blend of creative and business insight to Christian songwriting and artist development.
Claire shares how she went from singing Disney songs as a child to interning at Bethel just three weeks after giving her life to Christ, and how that faith journey has impacted her approach to A&R, publishing, and artist development. She also opens up about the challenges of giving professional song feedback, and how relational trust is key in the music industry.
This episode is packed with wisdom on genre vs. style, tips for emerging artists, and how to navigate your calling with both heart and strategy.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Claire’s journey from MTSU to Bethel Music and beyond
- How a personal faith encounter shaped her path in music
- The difference between publishing administration and creative publishing
- What it really takes to give—and receive—song feedback gracefully
- How to find your artistic identity in a genre-rich music world
- Practical advice for new songwriters discovering their sound
Key Moments:
[03:13] – Claire’s early love for music and storytelling
[06:53] – Why she chose MTSU and how it shaped her career
[09:07] – Giving her life to Christ—and getting a Bethel internship weeks later
[14:32] – Stepping into real-world A&R with Pure Mosaic
[17:00] – Navigating hard conversations with artists
[20:02] – Genre & style: working across musical diversity
[23:41] – Nikki Lou’s powerful folky transformation story
[25:51] – Genre vs. style: how to define and navigate both
[31:08] – Helping writers who feel “undefined” or stuck
[33:36] – Advice for songwriters: study the genre you want to write in
[35:31] – The exciting future of NCS and the NCS Collective
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