Song Revolution with John Chisum

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JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter? 05/04/2026

JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter? Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John introduces Theme #1 from the brand-new NCS Complete Songwriting Guide—the call to become an intentional Christian songwriter. Rather than writing sporadically or waiting for inspiration to strike, John challenges songwriters to develop a clear plan, take consistent steps forward, and steward their calling with purpose. Drawing from decades of songwriting experience, John shares how many writers dream of being heard on radio, in churches, or around the world—but often lack the intentional habits necessary to get there. He explains why lasting growth doesn’t happen through giant leaps, but through small, faithful steps taken consistently over time. This episode lays the foundation for the upcoming themes in the guide, encouraging songwriters to move beyond hobby-level creativity and step into purposeful development. It’s a motivating and practical call to stop drifting and start growing as a songwriter who writes with vision, discipline, and faith. EPISODE TOPICS Introduction to the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide Theme #1: Becoming an intentional Christian songwriter Why many songwriters stay stuck without a clear plan The difference between dreaming and doing Taking incremental steps toward songwriting growth Moving from hobbyist thinking to purposeful development Investing time, energy, and resources into your calling Developing spiritual and creative discipline Creating momentum through small, consistent actions Building a long-term vision for your songwriting journey KEY HIGHLIGHTS Introducing the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide: John shares the heart behind creating an 80-page resource designed to help Christian songwriters take meaningful, practical steps toward growth. The guide outlines 12 essential themes to help writers develop both skill and purpose. Intentional Songwriting Starts with a Plan: Many songwriters have dreams but lack structure. John emphasizes that growth requires intention—setting goals, creating rhythms, and making songwriting a priority rather than an afterthought. Small Steps Lead to Big Results: Instead of trying to make giant leaps, songwriters are encouraged to focus on consistent, manageable actions. Incremental growth builds confidence, skill, and long-term momentum. From Hobby to Calling: Writing songs casually can be fulfilling, but those who feel called to share their message more broadly must treat songwriting as a discipline worth investing in. Feed Your Mind and Spirit: True growth happens when songwriters nurture both their creative skills and their spiritual lives—drawing inspiration from the Holy Spirit while developing practical tools. Get Unstuck by Taking Action: Waiting for the perfect moment often leads to stagnation. Progress begins when songwriters take the next available step, even if it feels small. Your Calling Deserves Stewardship: Songwriting is not just a creative outlet—it’s a responsibility. Stewarding your gift well means being intentional about growth, learning, and consistent effort. FINAL TAKEAWAY Great songwriting doesn’t happen by accident—it happens by intention. If you feel called to write songs that impact others, it’s time to move beyond wishful thinking and take purposeful steps forward. Start where you are, make a plan, and commit to steady growth. Over time, small, faithful actions can lead to powerful results in your songwriting and your calling. RESOURCES & LINKS: FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40890975

PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs? 04/27/2026

PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs? Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with multi-talented artist, songwriter, top-liner, and coach Phoebe Scott to explore the craft, mindset, and spiritual foundation of songwriting. Phoebe shares her journey from small-town beginnings in West Tennessee to becoming a sought-after top-liner in Nashville, revealing how her early experiences, collaborative songwriting, and creative discipline shaped her career. Together, they dive into songwriting processes, the balance of inspiration and skill, and how faith and intentionality fuel artistry. The episode also includes an improvised songwriting session, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how ideas become songs. EPISODE TOPICS Phoebe’s journey from small-town bands to Nashville songwriting The role of a top-liner and modern collaborative songwriting Developing a prolific songwriting practice Balancing inspiration with skill and discipline Faith, creativity, and the mindset of a songwriter Importance of consuming quality art for creative growth Improvised songwriting exercise: “It’s All Good” KEY HIGHLIGHTS Phoebe’s early co-writing experience in Cooper the Band taught her how to write collaboratively and develop artistic identity. Explanation of a top-liner’s role: helping artists tell their story through melody and lyrics, supporting their vision while keeping songs cohesive. Insight into how prolific songwriting comes from consistent practice, showing up, and embracing feedback. Faith-centered perspective: every song already exists in God’s creation; the songwriter’s role is to be faithful and obedient in arranging it. Emphasis on input for output: reading, exploring art, and studying culture directly fuels creativity. Discussion of mindset: success is not only inspiration but showing up consistently, even when ideas feel empty. Behind-the-scenes songwriting moment where Phoebe and John co-create an improvised chorus, demonstrating collaborative creativity in action. FINAL TAKEAWAY Songwriting is both a craft and a calling. By combining discipline, creative curiosity, and faith, artists can show up fully—even when inspiration feels scarce—and trust the process to bring songs to life. Collaboration, input from mentors and peers, and a mindset grounded in purpose transform ordinary songwriting sessions into opportunities for growth and meaningful storytelling. Whether you’re a beginner or seasoned songwriter, the key is to consistently engage, consume art, and allow God to guide the process, knowing that every step contributes to the song He’s already envisioned. RESOURCES & LINKS: Follow along with what Phoebe Scott is doing! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40545560

JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing 04/20/2026

JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John shares a powerful and honest message about the importance of mentoring and coaching in the journey of becoming a great Christian songwriter and artist. Drawing from over four decades in the music industry, John reflects on his own apprenticeship under legendary mentors and how that experience shaped his career. He challenges common misconceptions around calling, talent, and success—reminding songwriters that passion alone isn’t enough. Growth requires intentional investment, humility, and a willingness to learn from those further along in the journey. John also speaks candidly about the realities of the music industry, the value of paying for professional services, and the responsibility artists have to steward their calling with excellence. This episode is both a wake-up call and an invitation—to stop waiting, start growing, and pursue songwriting with discipline, mentorship, and purpose. EPISODE TOPICS Why mentoring and coaching are essential for songwriting growth The difference between being “called” and being “ready” How John’s early apprenticeship shaped his entire career Why talent and passion alone won’t make you a great songwriter The importance of investing time, effort, and money into your craft Common mindset traps that hold Christian songwriters back How to evaluate your songs beyond personal or cultural bias Why surrounding yourself with excellence accelerates growth KEY HIGHLIGHTS Mentorship is a biblical and practical pathway to growth Great songwriting is developed, not assumed You are responsible for developing and presenting your calling Feedback, challenge, and accountability are necessary to improve The question isn’t “Am I good enough?”—it’s “Am I committed enough to grow?” Excellence in songwriting requires both inspiration and discipline FINAL TAKEAWAY Christian songwriting is both a calling and a craft. Passion opens the door, but growth comes from humility, mentorship, and intentional effort. Surround yourself with those who challenge and inspire you, invest in your development, and commit to excellence in every song you write. The journey isn’t about proving your talent—it’s about stewarding your gift with purpose, discipline, and faithfulness. Start today, seek guidance, and let every step forward bring you closer to the songwriter God has called you to be. Take your next step by downloading the free NCS Complete Songwriting Guide and exploring the coaching and community opportunities available at Nashville Christian Songwriters. Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Song Revolution so you never miss an episode. RESOURCES & LINKS: FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40545525

CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average? 04/13/2026

CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average? Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with returning guest, artist, and songwriter Clark Beckham for a powerful conversation on artistry, worship, and the pursuit of excellence in songwriting. From his journey as a finalist on American Idol to becoming an NCS Records artist, Clark shares how his passion for soul, jazz, and expressive musicianship has shaped his unique approach to worship music. The conversation explores the heart behind his Acoustic Worship Sessions project, where familiar worship songs are reimagined through rich chord progressions and deeply personal expression. Beyond the music, this episode dives into the discipline required to grow as a songwriter and artist. Clark and John unpack the importance of skill development, teachability, and resisting the temptation to settle for mediocrity. This is a compelling and honest look at what it really takes to steward your calling and create music that reflects both excellence and authenticity. EPISODE TOPICS Clark Beckham’s journey from American Idol to NCS Records The vision behind the acoustic Worship Sessions project Reimagining worship songs through soul, jazz, and expressive chords The role of musical skill in honoring God through creativity Why growth requires discipline, not just desire Learning from mentors and collapsing the learning curve The difference between hobbyists and committed songwriters Overcoming creative passivity and taking action Worship as both spiritual expression and musical craftsmanship The balance between congregational accessibility and artistic depth KEY HIGHLIGHTS A Unique Approach to Worship Clark shares how his love for soul and jazz naturally flows into his worship leading. Rather than trying to be different, his style is simply the authentic expression of his musical journey and relationship with God. The Heart Behind Acoustic Worship Sessions What started organically has become a powerful project—taking well-known worship songs and presenting them in a fresh, intimate, and musically rich way that highlights both skill and sincerity. God Created Every Chord Clark challenges the idea that only simple or familiar musical structures are “spiritual.” From major chords to complex jazz voicings, all musical beauty ultimately points back to the Creator. Excellence Is an Offering Both John and Clark emphasize that pursuing excellence is not about performance or pride—it’s about offering God your very best. Growth requires intentional effort, learning, and a willingness to refine your craft. Stop Talking, Start Growing A key theme throughout the episode is the difference between wanting to improve and actually doing the work. Real growth comes from discipline, learning from others, and consistently putting in the reps. Learn from Those Who’ve Gone Before You Whether through courses, books, or mentorship, learning from experienced voices can dramatically accelerate growth and help avoid unnecessary mistakes. Calling Requires Development Being called does not mean being instantly skilled. Often, the calling itself is an invitation into a process of growth, refinement, and deeper dependence on God. FINAL TAKEAWAY Your calling is not just about what you create—it’s about who you become in the process. Great songwriting and worship don’t come from shortcuts or surface-level effort. They are formed through discipline, humility, and a deep desire to grow. When you commit to developing your craft and offering your best to God, your music becomes more than sound—it becomes a true expression of worship that can impact others in a lasting way. RESOURCES & LINKS: Follow what Clark Beckham is up to! Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40545500

JOHN CHISUM: Don't Be A Lazy Songwriter 04/06/2026

JOHN CHISUM: Don't Be A Lazy Songwriter Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Don’t Be A Lazy Songwriter EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum dives into one of the most essential—and often overlooked—skills in songwriting: finding truly great ideas. Against the backdrop of today’s rapidly evolving AI landscape, John challenges songwriters to resist shortcuts and instead pursue authenticity, depth, and spiritual connection in their creative process. He explores the tension between “high tech” and “high touch,” emphasizing that while technology continues to advance, the need for real human expression has never been greater. Through personal stories, practical teaching, and decades of experience, John breaks down how to discover “killer hooks” rooted in genuine faith, lived experience, and a vibrant relationship with God. This episode is both a creative roadmap and a spiritual call to write songs that are not only well-crafted—but lasting. EPISODE TOPICS The importance of great ideas in songwriting “High tech vs. high touch” in a digital and AI-driven world Why authentic testimony matters more than generated content The role of the Holy Spirit in inspiration How environment and influences shape your creativity Developing originality in song concepts The power of language, rhyme, and lyrical tools Learning from books, advertising, and other songs Avoiding lazy songwriting habits Writing songs that stand the test of time KEY HIGHLIGHTS Great Songs Start with Great Ideas John emphasizes that every impactful song begins with a compelling, clear, and focused idea. Without a strong foundation, even the best production cannot carry a song. High Tech vs. High Touch As technology continues to expand, the value of human connection and authentic expression increases. Songwriting is not just about output—it is about the Spirit of God moving through a real person’s life and testimony. Don’t Outsource Your Voice While AI can generate content, it cannot replace the personal, spiritual, and emotional depth that comes from your own story. Your testimony is your greatest creative asset. The Power of a “Killer Hook” Timeless songs are built on simple, powerful ideas that connect instantly. A great title or hook should stand on its own—clear, compelling, and memorable without explanation. Go Inward First Some of the best ideas come from quiet moments of reflection and connection with God. Asking the Holy Spirit what He is doing in your life can unlock deeply meaningful song concepts. Feed Your Creativity Great writers are filled with great words. Reading, listening, and surrounding yourself with inspiring content strengthens your ability to write with depth and originality. Learn the Craft Understanding tools like rhyme, alliteration, and lyrical structure is essential. Songwriting is both spiritual and skill-based—it requires growth, study, and intentional development. Don’t Be a Lazy Songwriter Waiting passively for inspiration or relying on shortcuts leads to shallow results. Proactive, disciplined writers create more compelling and lasting songs. FINAL TAKEAWAY Great songwriting is not accidental—it is intentional, spiritual, and deeply personal. In a world increasingly driven by technology, your greatest advantage is your humanity and your relationship with God. The songs that last are not generated—they are cultivated through time, discipline, and authentic connection with the Holy Spirit. If you want to write songs that matter, start by listening inward, stewarding your voice, and committing to the process. Your testimony, your words, and your calling are worth the work. RESOURCES & LINKS: Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40545470

GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water 03/30/2026

GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with award-winning artist, songwriter, theologian, and worship leader Ginny Owens. From her early discovery by Michael W. Smith and her years in the CCM spotlight to seasons of burnout, spiritual wrestling, and renewed calling, Ginny shares a candid look at the highs and hardships of life in Christian music. Now serving at Redeemer Church in Manhattan and holding a Master of Divinity degree, Ginny reflects on what it means to go deeper in faith, to wrestle honestly with God, and to create music that fosters real spiritual conversations. She also introduces her new EP, Different Kind of Water, and shares about launching The Asaph Project, a new nonprofit focused on equipping worship leaders and writing songs for the local church. This is a rich conversation about faithfulness over fame, depth over dopamine, and blooming faithfully where God has planted you. EPISODE TOPICS Being discovered by Michael W. Smith and signing with Rocketown Records The realities behind the CCM touring life Burnout, doubt, and rediscovering spiritual depth Moving to New York City and earning an M.Div. Studying under Tim Keller at Redeemer The importance of church accountability for artists Writing songs that spark spiritual conversations The heart behind the EP Different Kind of Water Launching The Asaph Project to serve the congregational church Blooming where you’re planted as a songwriter KEY HIGHLIGHTS From Belmont to Rocketown Ginny shares the story of how a simple church offertory led to recording demos, connecting with publisher Michael Puryear, and eventually signing with Michael W. Smith’s Rocketown Records. Community and faithful connectors played a pivotal role in her journey. The Hidden Cost of the Dream While touring and recording brought exciting opportunities, Ginny candidly discusses the spiritual and relational toll of life on the road. Without consistent church accountability and rooted community, burnout followed. Her reflection offers valuable wisdom for aspiring artists. Going Deeper After Doubt Following a difficult season of burnout and spiritual questioning, Ginny sensed the Lord leading her into deeper theological study. Her move to New York to attend seminary at Redeemer under Tim Keller became a transformative chapter of growth and renewal. Writing for Spiritual Conversations Her new EP, Different Kind of Water, reflects conversations she longs to have with friends who don’t yet believe. Each song addresses universal longings—satisfaction, forgiveness, purpose—and gently points toward Christ as the ultimate answer. The Asaph Project Ginny shares her vision for The Asaph Project, a nonprofit aimed at equipping worship leaders in theology, songcraft, and congregational leadership while also creating new music specifically for the local church. Bloom Where You’re Planted Her encouragement to songwriters: bring every dream and idea to the Lord, stay rooted in Scripture, and faithfully serve where you are now rather than chasing the door that hasn’t opened yet. FINAL TAKEAWAY Success in Christian music is not sustained by momentum, platform, or applause—it is sustained by presence with Jesus and rootedness in community. Ginny’s journey reminds us that calling is deeper than career. Whether you’re touring the world or serving your local church, faithfulness begins with abiding in Christ and blooming right where He has planted you. RESOURCES & LINKS: Follow along with Ginny Owens Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40127135

DANIEL DOSS: Revival and Songwriting 03/23/2026

DANIEL DOSS: Revival and Songwriting Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: DANIEL DOSS: Revival and Songwriting HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with songwriter and artist Daniel Doss for an honest conversation about calling, perseverance, and the refining process of songwriting. Daniel shares his journey into music, the challenges of building a career while staying grounded in faith, and the lessons he has learned about consistency, character, and craft. Throughout the conversation, Daniel opens up about navigating setbacks, staying creative during uncertain seasons, and learning how to write songs that are both personal and universally resonant. This episode highlights the importance of patience, humility, and long-term faithfulness in a songwriting journey that is often marked by unseen growth before visible opportunity. EPISODE TOPICS Daniel’s early path into songwriting and artistry The tension between ambition and surrender Developing craft through repetition and discipline Staying rooted in faith while pursuing opportunity The importance of community in a creative career Writing songs that are authentic rather than strategic Growth that happens behind the scenes KEY HIGHLIGHTS Daniel reflects on how early challenges shaped both his faith and his songwriting voice. A candid discussion about rejection and how it refines both character and craft. Insight into why consistency matters more than momentary momentum. Encouragement to write songs that come from lived experience rather than trends. A reminder that longevity in music requires humility, patience, and a willingness to keep learning. Practical wisdom on staying encouraged during seasons when progress feels slow. FINAL TAKEAWAY A sustainable songwriting career is not built overnight. Daniel Doss’s story reminds us that true growth often happens in hidden seasons where discipline, faith, and character are formed. When songwriters commit to the long process—refining their craft, guarding their hearts, and trusting God with the timeline—their songs carry depth that cannot be manufactured. RESOURCES & LINKS: Check out Daniel Doss Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40126995

SHAYLEE SIMEONE: Honest Jesus Music 03/16/2026

SHAYLEE SIMEONE: Honest Jesus Music Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: SHAYLEE SIMEONE: Honest Jesus Music HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes singer, songwriter, and storyteller Shaylee Simeone for an honest and heartfelt conversation about identity, calling, and the long road of obedience in a creative life. Shaylee shares her journey from early musical influences and family harmony to stepping out on her own as an artist and songwriter. The conversation explores the tension between ambition and surrender, the process of refining your voice over time, and the importance of writing songs that reflect real life rather than performance. Shaylee opens up about seasons of waiting, redefining success, and learning to trust God with both the platform and the process. This episode is a powerful reminder that longevity in songwriting is built on faithfulness, authenticity, and the courage to tell the truth. EPISODE TOPICS Growing up in a musical family and early creative development Discovering personal identity apart from performance The tension between ambition and obedience Navigating seasons of waiting and transition Moving to Nashville and stepping into the songwriting community Writing from real life rather than image Redefining success as faithfulness The importance of vulnerability in songwriting Trusting God with timing, platform, and opportunity KEY HIGHLIGHTS Shaylee reflects on how her early experiences in music shaped both her confidence and her insecurities. A thoughtful discussion on separating identity from achievement. Insight into the discipline of continuing to write even when outcomes feel uncertain. Honest moments about comparison and the pressure to measure up. Encouragement to write songs that are rooted in lived experience rather than trend. A clear reminder that calling is often confirmed through quiet obedience rather than immediate visibility. FINAL TAKEAWAY Sustainable songwriting is not built on hype or momentum—it is built on faithfulness. Shaylee Simeone’s story reminds us that when we anchor our identity in who we are rather than what we achieve, we gain the freedom to create from a place of honesty and peace. The songs that endure are the ones shaped by patience, trust, and a willingness to let God define the outcome. RESOURCES & LINKS: Check out Shaylee Simeone Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40126810

AMANDA JANSON: Sinner To Saint 03/09/2026

AMANDA JANSON: Sinner To Saint Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: AMANDA JANSON: Sinner To Saint HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this powerful episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with worship artist and songwriter Amanda Janson for an honest and deeply vulnerable conversation about faith, calling, trauma, and songwriting as testimony. Amanda shares her journey from a Broadway-bound upbringing and a complicated spiritual background to encountering Christ in adulthood and eventually stepping into a life of worship and songwriting. The conversation traces Amanda’s move to Nashville, her growth as a co-writer, and the intense personal battles that shaped her latest album, Sinner To Saint. With courage and clarity, Amanda opens up about depression, shame, suicidal thoughts, and the turning points that led her to deeper surrender and healing. This episode is a profound reminder that songwriting can become a sacred place where pain, honesty, and faith meet—and where God brings redemption. EPISODE TOPICS Growing up with mixed religious backgrounds and no church foundation Encountering Christ later in life and the early days of faith Walking away from a Broadway career and discovering new purpose Moving to Nashville by faith and trusting God’s timing Learning to co-write and build genuine community in songwriting rooms Navigating ambition, industry pressure, and comparison Trauma, depression, and confronting shame as a believer Suicidal thoughts and the journey toward healing and surrender Writing songs rooted in testimony and vulnerability The heart and message behind the album Sinner To Saint Songwriting as a tool for honesty, healing, and worship KEY HIGHLIGHTS Amanda shares her unexpected salvation story and the early curiosity that led her to faith. A candid discussion about chasing success versus pursuing God’s presence. Insight into the emotional toll of industry pressure and unmet expectations. Amanda’s description of a profound moment of surrender that marked a turning point in her life and faith. The story behind the song “Where the Warfare Ends” and how it was born from a moment of deep despair and divine truth. Reflections on the freedom that comes from releasing shame and embracing identity as a child of God. Encouragement for artists to tell the truth in their songs and create space for others to heal through honesty. FINAL TAKEAWAY True songwriting begins when we stop hiding. Amanda Janson’s story reminds us that faith does not remove struggle, but it does invite healing, redemption, and hope into our darkest moments. When songwriters choose honesty over image and surrender over striving, their songs become more than music—they become ministry. God meets us in our broken places, and when we write from there, our stories can help others find light in their own darkness. Resources & Links: Check out Amanda Janson Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of NCS Community! NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39994890

JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music? 03/02/2026

JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music? Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum tackles one of the most pressing issues facing today’s music creators: artificial intelligence in songwriting. Fresh off multiple interviews at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) convention, where AI was the dominant topic of conversation, John unpacks the realities, risks, and responsibilities surrounding AI-generated music. From deep fakes and copyright confusion to spiritual discernment and creative integrity, this episode dives deep into what AI means for Christian songwriters. John makes a clear and passionate case: AI may be a powerful tool, but it can never replace the calling, humanity, and spiritual formation of a real songwriter. This conversation challenges creators not to take the easy way out, but to steward their gifts faithfully in a rapidly shifting technological landscape. EPISODE TOPICS The rise of AI-generated music Experiences at NRB and industry-wide AI discussions Rights, revenue, and reputation concerns in publishing AI “scraping” artist catalogs and copyright implications Spotify removing millions of AI-generated tracks Deep fakes and reputational harm Theological and spiritual questions about AI worship songs When AI can be a helpful tool versus a creative shortcut Why real songwriters still matter Growing as a communicator instead of outsourcing creativity KEY HIGHLIGHTS AI Is Here to Stay John acknowledges that AI technology will only improve. Like the digital shift of the late 20th century, we are in a major cultural and creative transition. The key question is not whether AI exists—but how we respond to it. Rights, Revenue, and Reputation AI-generated songs often “scrape” existing catalogs to mimic an artist’s style, raising serious concerns about intellectual property and theft. Who owns these songs? Who gets paid? And what happens when an artist’s name or likeness is misused through deep fakes? Humanity Cannot Be Scraped While AI can generate polished production and flawless vocals, John argues that it lacks pathos, testimony, and authentic spiritual experience. A great song carries one clear idea rooted in real human emotion. Production may impress, but stripped down to piano or guitar, the song must stand on its own. Prompt Writing vs. Songwriting If a creator inputs only a prompt and receives a finished song, John draws a firm line: that is not songwriting. True songwriting involves crafting lyrics, shaping melody, wrestling with structure, and allowing personal testimony to flow into the work. Appropriate Use of AI John is not anti-technology. Using AI to generate a demo of a fully written lyric and melody can be a legitimate tool. The issue is not assistance—it is substitution. Spiritual Discernment in the AI Era Can God use AI-generated lyrics if they contain truth? Possibly. Truth is truth. But Christian communicators are called to more than efficiency—they are called to communion with God. Songwriting is not just output; it is formation. Don’t Shortchange the Process The labor of crafting lyrics and melodies over time shapes the songwriter. Taking creative shortcuts may produce sound, but it does not produce growth. FINAL TAKEAWAY Technology may accelerate production, but it cannot replace calling. AI can be a tool—but it must never become a substitute for the Spirit-led, deeply human process of writing songs. God called you to be a songwriter not simply to produce music, but to spend time with Him, to grow, and to communicate truth from your own heart. Do not shortchange yourself. Do not surrender your voice. Steward your gift, embrace the discipline, and create as a real human being empowered by the Spirit of God. RESOURCES & LINKS: Link to the John Piper ChatGPT clip John mentioned in the episode. Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/40230355

JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song 02/23/2026

JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with singer-songwriter Jackson Dreyer for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about creativity, discipline, and finding your voice as a songwriter. From growing up outside Chicago to planting roots in East Nashville, Jackson shares how movement, architecture, relationships, and everyday life experiences shape his songwriting process. The conversation explores how stepping away from constant noise creates space for emotional clarity, lyrical depth, and authentic expression. This episode is a thoughtful look at how songwriters can stay inspired, grounded, and creatively alive while navigating both personal growth and artistic ambition. EPISODE TOPICS The connection between physical movement and creative clarity How running and solitude spark songwriting ideas Growing up near Chicago and the influence of architecture and place Finding inspiration in cities, communities, and everyday surroundings Living and writing in East Nashville as a songwriter Turning real emotions into honest lyrics Avoiding creative overload and reclaiming mental space Letting life experiences shape better songs KEY HIGHLIGHTS Jackson shares how running helps him reconnect with his thoughts and emotions, often leading to new song ideas. A discussion on how silence and mental margin are essential for meaningful songwriting. Reflections on how cities like Chicago and Nashville influence creativity, identity, and artistic perspective. Insight into how architecture and visual beauty can fuel musical inspiration. Honest thoughts on balancing productivity with presence as a modern songwriter. Encouragement to embrace real life—relationships, movement, environment—as songwriting fuel. FINAL TAKEAWAY Great songs don’t come from constant noise—they come from paying attention. By creating space to think, feel, and live fully, songwriters can tap into deeper honesty and write from a more authentic place. Creativity thrives when we slow down, observe our surroundings, and allow life itself to shape the songs we write. Resources & Links: Check out Jackson Dreyer Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of NCS Community! NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39980255

LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over 02/16/2026

LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes Broadway star, film actress, and singer-songwriter Laura Osnes for a deeply personal conversation about calling, identity, and creativity. Laura shares her journey from early musical theater roots to starring on Broadway, navigating career success, public controversy, and a major life pivot that led her to Nashville. The conversation explores how a season of loss and uncertainty opened the door to songwriting, personal expression, and new purpose beyond the stage. Laura also introduces her latest venture, Stagecraft, an online training platform designed to equip and mentor the next generation of stage performers with both excellence and integrity. EPISODE TOPICS: Laura Osnes’ early beginnings and Broadway career Winning a Broadway role through reality television Identity and faith in high-pressure creative environments Navigating career disruption and public controversy Moving from performance to songwriting as personal expression Finding your voice outside of roles and expectations Comparison, authenticity, and creative confidence Differences between stage performance and film acting Launching Stagecraft to mentor young performers Encouragement for artists walking unconventional paths KEY HIGHLIGHTS: Laura’s reflection on discovering her identity beyond performance and public success. Insight into how songwriting became a new creative outlet after a season of loss and silence. A powerful discussion on authenticity and resisting comparison in artistic careers. Lessons learned from navigating rejection, cancellation, and rebuilding with integrity. Practical wisdom on preparation, patience, and being ready when opportunity appears. The heart behind Stagecraft and its mission to equip young artists with skill and character. FINAL TAKEAWAY: Creative calling is not limited to a single platform or season. This episode reminds songwriters and artists that identity must be rooted deeper than success, roles, or recognition. When doors close, new expressions of purpose can emerge. By staying faithful, authentic, and open to unexpected paths, artists can discover new ways to share their voice and make meaningful impact. Resources & Links: Check out Laura Osnes Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! Be a part of NCS Community! NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39923995

MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are 02/09/2026

MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with artist and songwriter Micah Christopher to explore the journey from local church leadership to signing with Integrity Music. Micah shares his story of faith, obedience, and gradual growth, emphasizing how songwriting developed alongside spiritual maturity rather than overnight success. The conversation highlights the tension between calling and platform, the importance of community, and the often unseen seasons that prepare songwriters for wider opportunities. Together, John and Micah unpack what it really means to pursue songwriting with humility, patience, and purpose in a rapidly changing music landscape. EPISODE TOPICS: Micah Christopher’s faith and songwriting journey Transitioning from local worship leader to recording artist Signing with Integrity Music Writing songs for the church versus writing for personal expression The role of obedience and faithfulness in creative growth Balancing ambition, calling, and character Community, mentorship, and long-term development Navigating expectations in the modern Christian music industry KEY HIGHLIGHTS: Micah’s honest reflection on slow, steady growth rather than sudden success. Insight into how songwriting evolved naturally out of worship leadership and spiritual formation. A discussion on the dangers of chasing platform before being rooted in purpose. Encouragement for songwriters who feel overlooked or stuck in hidden seasons. Practical wisdom on staying grounded while stepping into new opportunities. A reminder that label deals and recognition are outcomes, not destinations. FINAL TAKEAWAY: Faithful songwriting is built over time through obedience, humility, and community. Rather than striving for quick success, this episode challenges songwriters to trust the process, steward their current season well, and allow their craft and character to grow together. When the foundation is solid, the opportunities that come will have lasting impact. Resources & Links: Check out Micah Christopher Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Be a part of NCS Community! NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39912430

JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing 02/02/2026

JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich EPISODE SUMMARY In this opening episode of Season Four of Song Revolution, John and co-host Bryant Urich reflect on the highlights of the past year while casting vision for 2026. They discuss the growth of the NCS community, the return of in-person songwriting retreats, the launch of NCS Records, and meaningful conversations from recent podcast guests. The episode then shifts into a practical and encouraging discussion about one of the biggest challenges songwriters face: making the most of their time. Through honest conversation and real-life examples, John and Bryant challenge listeners to move past discouragement, establish sustainable writing rhythms, and take intentional action toward their calling as songwriters. EPISODE TOPICS Highlights from 2025 and vision for 2026 Growth of the NCS community and songwriting retreats Launch and expansion of NCS Records Lessons learned from recent podcast guests Overcoming discouragement and writer’s block Time management and creative rhythms for songwriters Discipline versus legalism in the creative process The importance of consistency, accountability, and action KEY HIGHLIGHTS A reflection on how in-person writing retreats and community connection reignited creativity and collaboration. Insight into why many songwriters struggle to write consistently and how exhaustion, discouragement, and unrealistic expectations play a role. A practical reminder that inspiration often follows action, not the other way around. A discussion on identifying personal energy rhythms and choosing realistic writing times that fit current seasons of life. Encouragement to view songwriting as a calling worth intentional investment rather than waiting to feel “good enough.” A reframing of the common question from “Am I good enough?” to “Am I called enough to show up and do the work?” FINAL TAKEAWAY Songwriting growth doesn’t come from waiting for the perfect moment or the perfect idea. It comes from showing up consistently, feeding your creativity, and taking small but intentional steps forward. If you feel called to write songs, the next step is action. Treat your craft with purpose, surround yourself with community, and commit to using your time wisely so the songs inside you don’t stay unwritten. Resources & Links: Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. Be a part of NCS Community! NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39911870

DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean 01/26/2026

DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Dan Dean Episode Title: DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Dan Dean—one-third of the legendary trio Phillips, Craig & Dean—to explore a decades-long career marked by timeless songs, deep-rooted ministry, and a newly released solo album, More. From early cassette recordings to leading worship across the globe, Dan opens up about perseverance, songwriting, the power of legacy, and why he’s more inspired than ever to keep creating. What You’ll Hear: Dan’s early journey from solo artist to founding member of Phillips, Craig & Dean Behind-the-scenes stories from their 30+ year career and 14 studio albums How one heartfelt war-time promise shaped generations of ministry The spiritual and emotional layers behind Dan’s new solo album, More A father-son duet and the family legacy of faith through music Why beloved songs like “Crucified with Christ” and “Revelation Song” still resonate Words of encouragement for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders Featured Songs from More: “More” – A song of hope written during the isolation of COVID “Home” – A heartfelt duet with Dan’s son, Devin Dean “Mother of Boys” – Inspired by a poem written by Dan’s mom “Never Gets Old” – A touching reflection on the unchanging power of Scripture Notable Quotes: “God always has more of what you need.” “You want to hear the songs that brought some kind of emotional or spiritual impact in your life.” “The power of one man’s decision can impact generations.” “It wasn’t always easy, but we were faithful to the call.” Resources & Links: Connect with Dan Dean: Follow Dan on Instagram: @danpcd Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39477440

ANDREW GREER: Songwriting and Storytelling 01/19/2026

ANDREW GREER: Songwriting and Storytelling Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: ANDREW GREER (part 1): Songwriting and Storytelling Host: John Chisum Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this rich and heartfelt conversation, John welcomes singer-songwriter, producer, author, and documentarian Andrew Greer to Song Revolution. From his early days growing up in Texas with music all around him, to his time at Belmont University, and now as a respected artist and filmmaker, Andrew shares how music has always been more than sound—it has been a divine meeting point and a lifelong connection to God. Andrew opens up about discovering music as collaboration with the Creator, the spiritual weight of art, and how songwriters and storytellers carry the yearning for belonging and acceptance. He and John dive into the mystery of creativity, the intersection of sacred and “secular” art, and the role of music in healing, connection, and co-creation with God. This first part of the interview also explores Andrew’s reflections on growing up with thoughtful parents, his deep love for liner notes, the importance of songwriting beyond categories, and the spiritual resonance of great artists from Joni Mitchell to Roberta Flack. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Andrew’s early encounter with music and its connection to faith How music serves as collaboration with our Creator The difference between original sin and original virtue in shaping our lives Why songwriting is about more than “Christian” or “secular” categories How great art and music point us toward belonging and acceptance Andrew’s insights on the indie music landscape and why it’s a great time for creators Key Topics & Highlights: The spiritual role of music as connection and belonging How Andrew discovered a calling for songwriting and storytelling at an early age The influence of his parents and church community on shaping his worldview Why labeling art as sacred vs. secular often misses the deeper point Stories from Andrew’s journey at Belmont University and launching into music Insights on how artists like Joni Mitchell, Roberta Flack, and others shaped his perspective Why vulnerability and honesty in songwriting resonate more deeply than formulas Final Takeaway: At its heart, music is not about categories or success—it is about connection. Whether writing songs, producing stories, or simply listening, music offers us a chance to collaborate with God and remind one another that we belong. Resources & Links: Explore Andrew Greer’s work: https://www.andrew-greer.com/ Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39477415

SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert 01/12/2026

SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert Host: John Chisum Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this deeply moving episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes recording artist and worship leader Sarah Kroger for an honest conversation about faith, identity, songwriting, and spiritual wilderness. With a contemplative heart and a background shaped by Catholic tradition, Sarah shares how her latest album A New Reality was birthed in a season of silence and questioning. Together, John and Sarah explore what it means to embrace mystery in the Christian life, the importance of living in the present moment, and how belovedness can become an anchor in seasons of darkness. They also discuss the role of co-writing in Sarah's journey, her musical influences, and the inspiration behind standout tracks like “Galaxies,” “Ghost,” and the beloved fan-favorite “Belovedness.” Whether you’re navigating your own spiritual desert or longing to write from a deeper place, this episode offers a rich well of encouragement, authenticity, and insight. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Sarah Kroger discovered her identity as a songwriter through co-writing Why gratitude and presence are key to thriving as an artist The inspiration and impact of her song “Belovedness” How contemplative authors like Henri Nouwen shaped her spiritual growth Why living in mystery may be the most authentic form of faith Real talk on spiritual silence, deconstruction, and creative perseverance Key Moments: [01:09] – John welcomes listeners and introduces Sarah Kroger [03:34] – Sarah on gratitude, presence, and the joy of doing what she loves [05:56] – The early passion for music and discovering co-writing [10:24] – Influences from Nouwen, Merton, and Catholic mysticism [13:06] – John and Sarah discuss spiritual darkness and the mystery of God [17:03] – “I am with you always” as a theme through the desert [23:39] – Letting go of old faith feelings and embracing radical immediacy [29:01] – Practicing presence and the discipline of stillness [31:14] – The story behind “Belovedness” and Sarah’s devotional book [36:39] – Exploring “Galaxies” and the divine image within us [38:40] – Writing “Ghost” and choosing sacred, traditional language [40:17] – John reflects on Sarah’s album and the beauty of authenticity Resources & Links: Order Sarah Kroger’s devotional Belovedness: Overcoming Your Inner Critic Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39477380

CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State 01/05/2026

CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Runner-Up, Soul/R&B Artist, Educator, Host of Idol Breakdown Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this powerful episode, John sits down with acclaimed vocalist and musician Clark Beckham to unpack his journey from street performer to American Idol fame. Clark opens up about the highs and lows of the entertainment industry, how his faith shapes his artistry, and why he believes Jesus loves the complexity found in music—yes, even a flat five. You'll also hear about Clark’s passion for music education, the emotional weight of critiquing performers on his Idol Breakdown series, and why it's perfectly normal to not feel obsessed with your art every single day. Key Takeaways: Clark’s honest experience as runner-up on American Idol Why he sees music as a competition with yourself The story behind “Jesus Loves the Flat Five” How faith, love, and genuine care translate in the entertainment world The difference between worship as a genre vs. worship as a personal practice Why it’s okay not to feel creative every day—and why you should keep going anyway The purpose behind Idol Breakdown and how he handles criticism responsibly Demystifying music theory through Clark’s online courses Quotable Moments: “Excuses are just permission slips for mediocrity.” “God is the author of art. And when we express emotions through it, He’s in it.” “You don’t follow your passion. You work really hard to get good, and passion follows.” “Jesus loves complexity. He loves art. He loves the flat five.” RESOURCES & LINKS ClarkBeckham.com Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39477350

NIKI LOU SAVICH: Songs Born From Poetry 12/29/2025

NIKI LOU SAVICH: Songs Born From Poetry Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum EPISODE TITLE: NIKI LOU SAVICH: Songs Born From Poetry EPISODE SUMMARY: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with longtime friend, songwriter, and Americana/folk artist Niki Lou Savich to reflect on her remarkable creative and spiritual journey. Once an international model, poet, caregiver, and therapist, Niki shares how songwriting unexpectedly emerged from her poetry during a deeply emotional season of life. She tells the story of discovering Nashville Christian Songwriters, attending her first retreat, and slowly growing from a poet with notebooks full of lyrics into a recording artist with two full-length albums. Together, John and Niki explore grief, faith, courage, artistry, and the patient, step-by-step process of becoming an artist later in life. This episode is a powerful reminder that God often brings songs from places we never planned—and that it’s never too late to say yes to the call. EPISODE TOPICS: • Niki’s transition from poetry to songwriting• Discovering songwriting through an unexpected creative moment• Attending her first NCS retreat and falling in love with the craft• Learning melody, structure, and song form without a musical background• Writing songs born from grief, loss, and lament• The death of Niki’s parents and how sorrow shaped her songwriting voice• Developing confidence as a vocalist and recording artist• Overcoming fear and self-doubt in the studio• The difference between writing for a notebook and releasing songs into the world• Artist development, mentorship, and long-term growth• Finding purpose and obedience beyond age, background, or expectations KEY HIGHLIGHTS: • A song that changed everything: Niki describes the moment a poem unexpectedly came out in full song form—melody, structure, and all—launching her songwriting journey. • From Starbucks parking lots to finished albums:Early coaching sessions took place over Zoom while Niki sat bundled in her car outside Starbucks, learning song structure line by line. • Grief as sacred ground:Following the loss of both parents, Niki’s songwriting deepened into raw, biblical lament, producing songs like “Million Tears,” “Dry as Bone,” and “Valley of Shadow and Light.” • Becoming an artist later in life: Niki shares the mental and emotional shift required to believe she could sing her own songs and step into the role of an artist. • Studio courage:Recording her first album was terrifying, but with patient coaching, encouragement, and faith, Niki found her voice and confidence. • Two albums born from obedience:Niki released Million Tears followed by My Offering, both rooted in honesty, humility, and deep spiritual reflection. • A quiet but fierce strength:John reflects on Niki’s combination of humility, tenacity, and dependence on God as key ingredients in her artistic growth. FINAL TAKEAWAY: Niki Lou Savich’s story is a testament to the beauty that can rise from brokenness. Her journey reminds us that songwriting is not about age, background, or platform—it’s about obedience, honesty, and trusting God with the songs He places in our hearts. When we surrender our pain, our fear, and our timing, God can transform even grief into a lasting offering of hope. Connect with Niki Lou Savich: Learn more:Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide NCS Collective: Check out our artists! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39413390

MICHAEL LEE BROWN: From Broadway to Songwriting 12/22/2025

MICHAEL LEE BROWN: From Broadway to Songwriting Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Michael Lee Brown Episode Title: MICHAEL LEE BROWN: From Broadway to Songwriting Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes singer, songwriter, and Broadway actor Michael Lee Brown, best known for his four-year run in Dear Evan Hansen on Broadway. Michael shares his unexpected journey into the NCS studio, his early beginnings in music, his transition from musical theater to singer-songwriter artistry, and the faith-filled moments that shaped his path. He opens up about the disciplines of acting, the joy and challenge of writing authentically, and why storytelling matters now more than ever. This episode offers inspiration for any creative searching for clarity, direction, and renewed passion in their craft. Episode Topics: • Michael’s early exposure to music and his family’s creative influence • The road to Dear Evan Hansen and the meaningful moments that confirmed his path • What it took to perform as Evan, Connor, and Jared • Lessons learned from repetition, preparation, and total immersion in a show • How audience feedback shaped his understanding of the show’s impact • Life after Broadway and navigating the post-pandemic creative landscape • Michael’s songwriting process for pop and musical theatre • Writing from personal truth versus writing from a character’s perspective • John’s coaching advice on emotional authenticity in songwriting • The heartfelt inspiration behind Michael’s song “Bob’s Town” • New music, teaching, and what Michael hopes for in the next season of his career Key Highlights: • A meaningful Broadway breakthrough: Michael reflects on years of walking past the Music Box Theatre, imagining himself on that stage, long before Dear Evan Hansen moved there. He later discovered a ring used in his first rehearsal was engraved with the Lord’s Prayer—one of several moments that affirmed his steps. • Becoming the only actor to play all three major male roles: Michael shares the strategy, training, mental discipline, and repetition required to perform Evan, Connor, and Jared at different times throughout the show’s run. • The emotional weight and reward of the work: Letters, conversations with fans, and powerful audience reactions reinforced the deep impact Dear Evan Hansen had on people of all ages. • Songwriting as a window into the soul: Michael describes his usual melody-first writing approach, how musical theatre requires a different process, and the tension between writing catchy songs versus revealing more vulnerable personal truth. • The power of story in “Bob’s Town”: Michael explains the inspiration behind the song, which honors a man named Bob and the small town that lovingly supported him. The story underscores the beauty of simple kindness and everyday humanity. Looking ahead: Michael is actively auditioning, writing new music, teaching voice and acting, and preparing to release more songs in the coming year. Resources & Links: Connect with Michael Lee Brown: https://www.michaelleebrown.com/ Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39412440

STOWTOWN WORSHIP: Unity, Legacy, and Worship 12/15/2025

STOWTOWN WORSHIP: Unity, Legacy, and Worship Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: STOWTOWN WORSHIP: Unity, Legacy, and Worship Episode Summary: In this episode, John welcomes an extraordinary lineup of worship leaders and vocal powerhouses—Alvin Slaughter, Steven McWhirter, and TaRanda Greene—along with the vision behind StowTown Worship’s new project, Live from the Iron Manor. What began as a desire to bless worship pastors at the Metro Conference grew into a powerful night of worship, featuring reimagined classics, newly arranged favorites, and cross-generational, cross-genre collaboration. The group discusses the heart behind the project, the importance of unity in the church, breaking down stylistic walls, and stewarding songs that serve real people in real church pews. They also introduce StowTown Resource, a new comprehensive tool designed to equip churches with high-quality arrangements, stems, charts, and orchestrations—including the entire Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir catalog. This episode is rich with testimony, humility, humor, and a deep passion for ministering to God’s people through music. Episode Topics: The origins of the StowTown Worship project The spiritual and musical vision behind Live from the Iron Manor Cross-generational worship and breaking down stylistic divides Crafting fresh arrangements of classic worship songs How worship transcends genre, age, and background Memories and legacy moments from Brooklyn Tabernacle Personal ministry journeys, testimonies, and career highlights Capturing the presence of God through united worship The launch of StowTown Resource and what it offers churches Serving people beyond the stage with authenticity and compassion Key Highlights: TaRanda Greene explains how the project began as a simple desire to bless worship pastors and evolved into a full recording featuring a powerhouse lineup. Alvin Slaughter reflects on his 35 years of ministry, Brooklyn Tabernacle roots, and renewed inspiration for recording again. Steven McWhirter shares the real-life basement moment behind “Come Jesus Come” and the humility surrounding his recent Dove Award win. The team discusses why songs must serve the hearts of real congregations, not just the stage or the worship industry. Fresh arrangements of classics like “Holy, Holy, Holy,” “Heart of Worship,” and “For God So Loved” were intentionally shaped to break down denominational and stylistic walls. The room of worship pastors at the Metro Conference became an active choir—captured on the live recording. StowTown Resource officially launches, offering charts, stems, orchestrations, rehearsal tools, and the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir catalog all in one place. A strong emphasis emerges: unity, sincerity, and a kingdom mindset must drive modern worship ministry. Final Takeaway At its core, the StowTown Worship project reflects a simple truth: worship is about people encountering God—together. Whether through timeless hymns, brand-new songs, or powerful reimagined arrangements, what matters most is unity, authenticity, and a heart that serves the church. The night at the Iron Manor captured this beautifully, and the launch of StowTown Resource ensures that churches everywhere can carry that same spirit into their own worship ministries. Resources & Links: Keep up with StowTown Worship! https://stowtownrecords.com/stowtown-worship Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39329765

JOHN CHISUM: The Craft of Christmas Songwriting 12/12/2025

JOHN CHISUM: The Craft of Christmas Songwriting Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: The Craft of Christmas Songwriting Episode Summary: In this festive episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum and co-host Bryant Urich dive into the art and craft of writing Christmas songs. From exploring why holiday music resonates so deeply to analyzing the lyrical and musical trends behind the world’s biggest Christmas hits, this conversation is packed with practical ideas, humor, and real-world insights for songwriters. John and Bryant discuss everything from nostalgic memories and classic hymns to modern Christmas pop, offering guidance on how to approach seasonal songwriting with authenticity, originality, and skill. Whether you're crafting a worshipful Advent ballad or a fun, hooky holiday pop song, this episode equips you with tools to write songs that truly connect. Key Topics & Highlights: Why Christmas songs matter and how nostalgia, memory, and emotion fuel their impact Lyrical themes of top Christmas songs based on research and data Musical traits that dominate Christmas hits including major keys, sleigh bells, and swing feels Using sensory details to make lyrics more vivid and relatable Finding original ideas by drawing from personal memories, traditions, and real experiences Analyzing classics and modern hits from Bing Crosby to Mariah Carey Using hymnals and older carols as starting points for new song ideas The importance of strong hooks and pre-writing in seasonal songwriting Why great Christmas songs evoke emotion first and facts second The role of chord extensions (like major 7ths) in creating a warm, wistful holiday sound Why many artists write Christmas music in the middle of the year and what that teaches about discipline Encouragement for writers who want to grow in skill, craft, and confidence Final Thought Christmas songs endure because they make us feel something. Whether you’re writing from nostalgia, faith, longing, or joy, the key is to create with intentionality and skill. When you pair heartfelt inspiration with craftsmanship, your holiday songs can stand out, connect deeply, and carry meaning far beyond the season. Resources & Links: Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39384680

JAMIE JAMGOCHIAN: Learning to Wait Well with God 12/08/2025

JAMIE JAMGOCHIAN: Learning to Wait Well with God Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: JAMIE JAMGOCHIAN: Learning to Wait Well with God Episode Summary: In this inspiring episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, host John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter, worship leader, and author Jamie Jamgochian for a rich conversation about creativity, calling, spiritual formation, and her new book Sacred Surrender: The Practice of Waiting Well with God. Jamie shares her personal journey from studying jazz at Berklee, to encountering Jesus at twenty-one, to navigating a decades-long career in Christian music as a Dove Award-nominated artist. She opens up about seasons of waiting, chronic illness, finding healing through quieter forms of worship, and discovering God’s presence in silence and stillness. Together, John and Jamie explore the challenges of slowing down in a noisy culture, the practice of surrendering personal dreams, and the beauty of connecting with God through meditative music, spontaneous worship, and simple moments of presence. They also talk about mentoring younger artists, developing spiritual resilience, and writing from a place of honesty and trust. What You’ll Learn: The heart behind Jamie’s new book Sacred Surrender How to wait on God with trust, peace, and purpose Why silence and stillness are essential for spiritual health How chronic illness reshaped Jamie’s relationship with worship The difference between waiting on God and waiting with God How meditative music can bring healing, peace, and connection Why surrender is a daily practice, not a one-time moment The importance of community, mentorship, and staying grounded as an artist Practical advice for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders How to let God dream through you instead of forcing your own plans Key Topics & Highlights: Jamie’s early journey as a jazz-trained pianist and her conversion at twenty-one Life at Berklee, early performance career, and coming to faith Seasons of illness, including Lyme disease, and how quiet worship sustained her Creating piano meditations and spontaneous worship recordings The inspiration behind Sacred Surrender and the discipline of waiting well Learning to listen to God through silence, boredom, and stillness How surrender frees us from pressure, comparison, and unrealistic timelines Developing spiritual maturity and emotional health before chasing platform Jamie’s heart for mentoring young female artists in Nashville Why honing your craft and creating your own opportunities matters Trusting God’s timing over the industry’s timeline Final Thought: True transformation happens not in the spotlight but in the quiet spaces where surrender becomes a way of life. Jamie reminds us that walking with God means releasing our timelines, deepening our trust, and practicing presence daily. When we learn to wait well with God, we discover a richer, steadier, more grounded life—one where creativity flows from peace, not pressure. Resources & Links: Keep up with all that Jamie is doing! Check out Jamie’s book, Sacred Surrender. https://ffm.bio/sacredsurrender Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/39156225

MARY LOU KAYSER: The Power of Poetry 11/24/2025

MARY LOU KAYSER: The Power of Poetry Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Mary Lou Kayser Episode Title: The Power of Poetry Episode Summary In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes poet, author, and creative entrepreneur Mary Lou Kayser for a deeply moving and thought-provoking conversation on art, creativity, and what it means to live—and write—fully in a digital age. Mary Lou shares her journey as a teacher, writer, and poet, exploring how the rapid shift into the digital world impacts human connection and creativity. She opens up about loss, love, and the role poetry plays in healing and transformation, reading two poignant pieces from her poetry collections The Far Unlit Unknown and The River Only Runs One Way. Through her work and wisdom, Mary Lou challenges listeners to reconnect with their creative selves, embrace authenticity, and make peace with their past while courageously stepping into the unknown. Key Topics & Highlights Life in Transition: How Mary Lou moved from teaching literature to fully embracing life as a writer and creative entrepreneur. The Digital Dilemma: Understanding how the algorithm era impacts art, purpose, and human connection. The Power of Poetry: Why poetry still matters—and how it can heal, illuminate, and connect us. Teaching and Transformation: Lessons from the classroom that shaped her creative voice and worldview. Loss and Renewal: How grief, love, and change inspired her collections The Far Unlit Unknown and The River Only Runs One Way. The Craft of Writing: The importance of revision, reflection, and returning to one’s work with new eyes. Poetry vs. Songwriting: Exploring the similarities and differences between written verse and lyrical composition. The Courage to Create: Why waiting to share your art is the biggest mistake—and how to release your work fearlessly. Memorable Quotes “Loneliness is a compass guiding you toward becoming more of who you've always been.” – Mary Lou Kayser “If you are being called to create—don’t wait. Time is always moving, and the river only runs one way.” – Mary Lou Kayser “How can we expect to write beautiful words if we’re not filled with them?” – John Chisum Final Thought Mary Lou reminds us that art is not just about expression—it’s about connection, transformation, and courage. Whether you’re a poet, songwriter, or storyteller, your creativity is a bridge between the human and the divine. Don’t wait for the “right” time. Create now, share freely, and trust the river to carry your words where they need to go. Resources & Links: Connect with Mary Lou Kayser and “Play Your Position” Podcast: maryloukayser.com Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/38926390

ED RODE: We Are All Storytellers 11/17/2025

ED RODE: We Are All Storytellers Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: ED RODE: We Are All Storytellers Guest: Ed Rode, Iconic Nashville Photographer and Author of “Songwriter: Musician Behind the Curtain with Nashville’s Iconic Storytellers and Players” Host: John Chisum Episode Summary In this visually rich and inspiring episode, host John Chisum sits down with celebrated photographer Ed Rode, whose lens has captured some of the most iconic figures in music—from Chet Atkins, Dolly Parton, and Willie Nelson to Taylor Swift and Vince Gill. Through his stunning photography and storytelling, Ed shares how a 35-year journey documenting Nashville’s creative legends turned into his new coffee table book, Songwriter: Musician. Together, John and Ed explore the intersection of photography, songwriting, and storytelling, revealing how every frame—and every lyric—has the power to invite people into a meaningful moment. Ed reflects on the mentorship of Chet Atkins, his experiences photographing legends like Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton, and the emotional encounters that defined his career, including a powerful moment with Glen Campbell near the end of his life. This episode is a celebration of creativity in all forms and a reminder that great art—whether a photograph or a song—comes from deep observation, patience, and heart. Key Topics & Highlights The Origins of Ed’s Career: How a chance encounter with Chet Atkins led to decades of photographing music legends. Storytelling Across Mediums: Why photography and songwriting share the same DNA—inviting others into a moment. The Art of Capturing Authenticity: How Ed disarms his subjects to reveal the truest version of themselves. Mentorship and Mastery: What Ed learned from icons like Chet Atkins and why mentorship shapes creative excellence. The Soul of a Photograph: Behind-the-scenes stories with Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn, and Glen Campbell. Work Ethic vs. Talent: The balance between natural ability, discipline, and the willingness to grow. Creativity in the Digital Age: Why true storytelling and human perspective can never be replaced by AI. Teaching and Giving Back: How Ed now passes on his craft as a photography instructor, continuing the cycle of creativity. Final Takeaway Whether through a song or a photograph, creativity is about storytelling that connects hearts. Ed Rode’s journey reminds us that art isn’t just about talent—it’s about persistence, curiosity, and the courage to see beauty in every fleeting moment. As he says, “We’re all storytellers,” and every story told from the heart has the power to inspire. Resources & Links: Connect with Ed Rode Book: Songwriter: Musician Behind the Curtain with Nashville’s Iconic Storytellers and Players Available online and at the Country Music Hall of Fame Store. Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/38914880

JOHN CHISUM: Developing The Skill of Rewriting 11/10/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Developing The Skill of Rewriting Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: The Skill of Rewriting Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with NCS Vice President of A&R and Production, Bryant Urich, to dive deep into the art and discipline of rewriting songs. As part of the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge, they explore why rewriting is essential to crafting powerful, lasting songs—and how humility, skill, and intentionality play key roles in the process. From Clark Beckham’s new songwriting courses to the band Eauclaire’s latest release, John and Bryant also share exciting NCS updates and practical encouragement for songwriters at every level. Whether you’re polishing your next worship anthem or trying to take your lyric from good to great, this episode offers real-world insights that will elevate your songwriting craft. Key Topics & Highlights: The importance of rewriting month in the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge How professional songwriters approach rewriting and editing Balancing inspiration with skill and craft Why “writing is rewriting” — the mindset that separates hobbyists from pros Overcoming false humility and defensiveness about your work Pre-writing and research as essential steps toward great songs Strengthening your hook and title through rhyme and alliteration Keeping focus on the “One Big Idea” (OBI) in every song The emotional power of songs—why listeners remember how you made them feel Upcoming NCS resources, courses, and community updates Final Thought: Rewriting isn’t about undoing your inspiration—it’s about refining it. Every great songwriter knows that inspiration starts the fire, but skill shapes it into something lasting. When you’re willing to revisit your work with humility and fresh eyes, you give your songs the chance to truly speak to others. Resources & Links: Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/38914320

Steele Crosswhite & Caleb Yetton: From Rock to Redemption 11/03/2025

Steele Crosswhite & Caleb Yetton: From Rock to Redemption Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: Steele Crosswhite & Caleb Yetton: From Rock to Redemption Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with Steele Crosswhite and Caleb Yetton from The Rock Church in Salt Lake City, Utah. Once a rock musician sharing stages with artists like the Foo Fighters, Sheryl Crow, and Maroon 5, Steele encountered the grace of Jesus and traded the spotlight for a life of ministry and songwriting rooted in the local church. Together with Caleb, a fellow pastor and musician, Steele shares how God transformed his music and mission—leading to Captured by Grace, a record originally released twenty years ago and now beautifully reimagined for a new generation. The conversation dives into faith, creativity, and how great songs can grow from obedience and community within the local church. What You’ll Learn: How Steele’s encounter with Jesus radically changed his life and music The story behind Captured by Grace and its 20-year anniversary re-release Why The Rock Church’s music ministry is thriving in a challenging cultural landscape How songwriting can serve as a tool for mission and discipleship The importance of local church creativity and community-driven worship How music from Utah is impacting lives far beyond the state’s borders Key Topics & Highlights: From rock and roll to ministry – Steele’s transition from touring with major acts to leading music at The Rock Church. Captured by Grace – the inspiration, writing process, and new arrangements for the 20th anniversary project. Partnership and vision – how Caleb and Steele co-pastor, co-create, and lead a thriving creative community. Local church as a creative hub – empowering artists to make excellent music that reaches their own communities. Utah as a mission field – ministering in one of the least evangelical states in the U.S. through authentic worship. Timeless songwriting – how songs like “Matters” continue to resonate 20 years later with new life and production. Collaboration and legacy – involving new musicians and worship leaders in revisiting classic songs. Final Takeaway: Steele Crosswhite and Caleb Yetton remind us that when we give God our gifts, He gives them back refined with purpose. Whether on a stage or in a small church, great music begins with obedience, community, and a heart fully captured by grace. Resources & Links: Listen to Steele Crosswhite, Caleb Yetton, and The Rock Music! https://open.spotify.com/artist/0c8xYlEYETimOaLlGZcMVk?si=AjZJ1QwzTKiVrzv8jP2zpg Visit therockmusic.org for updates, music, and church information. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/38799080

DAWN & STEVE: Faith, Radio, and Soul Care 10/27/2025

DAWN & STEVE: Faith, Radio, and Soul Care Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: DAWN & STEVE: Faith, Radio, and Soul Care Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum turns the tables and welcomes longtime radio hosts Dawn Ray May and Steve Hiller, formerly of Moody Radio and now co-hosts of the Dawn and Steve Plus podcast. With decades of experience in Christian radio, Dawn and Steve share stories of their broadcasting journeys, memorable interviews with iconic artists, and the lessons they’ve learned about faith, resilience, and community. The conversation also dives deep into mental health, soul care, and why creating safe spaces for healing is central to their new podcast ministry. What You’ll Learn: How Dawn and Steve built careers in Christian radio. Memorable stories from interviews with artists like Stephen Curtis Chapman, Jeremy Camp, and Twila Paris. The shift from radio to podcasting and the freedom it brings. Dawn’s personal journey through grief, trauma, and healing after her father’s death. Why mental health and soul care are at the heart of their podcast. The importance of safe community, counseling, and practical soul care for Christians today. Key Topics & Highlights: The power of radio and music ministry – how songs and interviews shaped their years at Moody. From radio to podcasting – navigating the challenges and new freedoms of digital media. Personal story of loss and healing – Dawn’s testimony of finding hope through counseling after trauma. Breaking stigma in the church – honest conversations about counseling, mental health, and faith. Addiction, connection, and boundaries – insights from their counselor guest, Phil Herndon. The mission of Dawn and Steve Plus – encouraging, inspiring, and pointing listeners to Jesus through honest, hope-filled dialogue. Final Takeaway: Dawn and Steve’s story is one of resilience, faith, and obedience. From years in radio to launching a podcast focused on soul care and the gospel, they remind us that God can use every part of our story—our gifts, our pain, and our healing—to encourage and build up others. Resources & Links: Keep up with Dawn & Steve Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/38498080

CLARK BECKHAM: American Idol Finalist on Songwriting & Surrender 10/20/2025

CLARK BECKHAM: American Idol Finalist on Songwriting & Surrender Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: American Idol Finalist on Songwriting & Surrender Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter, musician, and American Idol finalist Clark Beckham. Known for his soulful voice and authentic artistry, Clark shares his journey from small-town beginnings to national recognition and beyond. The conversation dives deep into the balance between ambition and surrender, the lessons learned from rejection and waiting, and how faith anchors him through every season of the creative process. Clark opens up about his experiences in the spotlight, the realities of the music industry, and how staying grounded in God’s timing has reshaped his approach to songwriting. He also discusses how true artistry comes from honesty, craftsmanship, and humility rather than chasing trends or fame. What You’ll Learn: Clark’s journey from church musician to American Idol finalist How fame and faith intersect in a culture of instant success Why patience and humility are essential in the creative process The importance of writing songs that come from truth, not pressure Lessons learned about identity, calling, and creative stewardship How to balance musical ambition with spiritual contentment Key Topics & Highlights: Early beginnings – discovering music in the church and learning multiple instruments The American Idol experience – highs, challenges, and how it shaped Clark’s character Faith through waiting – trusting God’s timing when dreams seem delayed Songwriting as honesty – why vulnerability and craft outweigh hype and algorithms Navigating the industry – what Clark learned about labels, fame, and staying authentic Spiritual maturity in art – how surrender leads to stronger songs and deeper peace Creating from overflow – writing songs from what God is doing in your life, not for validation Final Takeaway: Clark Beckham’s story is a reminder that success in music—and in life—isn’t about speed or visibility but about faithfulness. God’s timing is perfect, and the songs that last are born from honesty, surrender, and a heart that trusts Him fully. Resources & Links: Follow Clark Beckham on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/clarkbeckham/ Visit Clark’s website: clarkbeckham.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/38498075

MIA FIELDES: Writing From Revelation 10/13/2025

MIA FIELDES: Writing From Revelation Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: MIA FIELDES: Writing From Revelation Episode Summary In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with acclaimed songwriter and worship leader Mia Fieldes, whose songs have been recorded by artists like Lauren Daigle, Zach Williams, Phil Wickham, Kim Walker-Smith, and many more. From growing up in poverty and seasons of homelessness to becoming one of the most prolific voices in modern worship, Mia shares how faith, perseverance, and gratitude have shaped her journey. With honesty and humor, she opens up about her songwriting process, contending for miracles, and the importance of stewarding your gifts with diligence. What You’ll Learn: How Mia overcame early hardships and developed unshakable faith. Why gratitude is a key to unlocking God’s promises. The story behind writing Chain Breaker with Zach Williams. Why being a specialist is vital for songwriters. How to balance inspiration, discipline, and co-writing partnerships. Why faith should sometimes feel “offensive” in a culture of self-reliance. Key Topics & Highlights: Gratitude as a lifestyle – learning to thank God as an access point to His promises. Developing your craft – why excellence and hard work matter more than talent alone. Writing from revelation – how songs like Fierce and Tremble were born from real-life moments and prayers. Faith as a muscle – how persevering through trials strengthens belief. Stewardship in songwriting – becoming a “specialist” rather than a generalist. Miracle stories – contending for healing, children, and breakthrough despite impossibility. The bigger calling – why your life mission goes beyond music and how to carry faith into every moment. Final Takeaway: Mia’s story is a testimony of resilience, faith, and the power of stewarding your gifts well. Her journey reminds us that God can, He will, and He wants to—and that our agreement with His promises can change everything. Resources & Links: Follow Mia Fieldes on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/miafieldes/reels/?hl=en Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/38314395