Song Revolution with John Chisum

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DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean 08/11/2025

DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Dan Dean Episode Title: DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean Episode Summary: In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Dan Dean—one-third of the legendary trio Phillips, Craig & Dean—to explore a decades-long career marked by timeless songs, deep-rooted ministry, and a newly released solo album, More. From early cassette recordings to leading worship across the globe, Dan opens up about perseverance, songwriting, the power of legacy, and why he’s more inspired than ever to keep creating. What You’ll Hear: Dan’s early journey from solo artist to founding member of Phillips, Craig & Dean Behind-the-scenes stories from their 30+ year career and 14 studio albums How one heartfelt war-time promise shaped generations of ministry The spiritual and emotional layers behind Dan’s new solo album, More A father-son duet and the family legacy of faith through music Why beloved songs like “Crucified with Christ” and “Revelation Song” still resonate Words of encouragement for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders Featured Songs from More: “More” – A song of hope written during the isolation of COVID “Home” – A heartfelt duet with Dan’s son, Devin Dean “Mother of Boys” – Inspired by a poem written by Dan’s mom “Never Gets Old” – A touching reflection on the unchanging power of Scripture Notable Quotes: “God always has more of what you need.” “You want to hear the songs that brought some kind of emotional or spiritual impact in your life.” “The power of one man’s decision can impact generations.” “It wasn’t always easy, but we were faithful to the call.” Resources & Links: Connect with Dan Dean: Follow Dan on Instagram: @danpcd Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/37687605

JOHN CHISUM: Want to Be a Christian Artist? 08/04/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Want to Be a Christian Artist? Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Want to Be a Christian Artist? Episode Summary: Season 3 of Song Revolution kicks off with a powerful conversation between hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich about what it truly means to pursue a calling as a Christian artist. Reflecting on their recent experience at the Heaven on Earth Festival in Moab, Utah, they share personal stories, hard truths, and practical encouragement for artists who feel called to create for the Kingdom. This episode is about more than music. It’s about authenticity, obedience, and learning to start where you are. Whether you're a worship leader, an indie singer-songwriter, or simply exploring your creative gifts, John and Bryant challenge you to examine your motivation, clarify your calling, and step forward in faith—no matter your stage or platform. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why “becoming” is more important than “arriving” in your artist journey The difference between creating art from identity vs. seeking identity through art How to start from where you are, without needing to impress or perform Why your story is your greatest songwriting asset How comparison, insecurity, and external validation can derail your calling The importance of community and mentorship in your creative development Why Christian artistry must be rooted in spiritual obedience, not metrics or success Key Topics and Highlights: Takeaways from the Heaven on Earth Festival: worship, storytelling, and deep connection The false pressure to look like a “real artist” before you actually become one John’s reflections on his Integrity Music years and what has changed since Bryant’s honest experience stepping into live performance and finding freedom The sacredness of your story and how it shapes the songs you write What Christian artists must understand about calling, identity, and surrender How coaching, development, and trusted community make a measurable difference A preview of what’s coming in Season 3 of the podcast Final Takeaway: Success in Christian music isn’t about being famous. It’s about being faithful. The journey of becoming an artist starts with showing up, stewarding your story, and letting God shape the outcome. Resources & Links: Listen to Eauclaire’s music! https://linktr.ee/eauclaire Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/37583815

JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials Into Testimony 07/28/2025

JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials Into Testimony Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: Bryant Urich Guest: Justin Gambino Episode Title: JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials into Testimony Episode Summary: In one of the most powerful episodes of Song Revolution to date, host Bryant Urich sits down with recording artist and worship leader Justin Gambino, who shares his raw and redemptive life story—from addiction and criminal charges at age 18, to leading worship in Iraq, to becoming a full-time touring Christian artist. Raised in church and homeschooled in small-town Texas, Justin began his musical journey strumming his Bible as a boy, only to spiral into a destructive lifestyle during his teenage years. A run-in with the law, followed by a choice between prison and military service, led him to the Navy—and eventually to Iraq, where God quite literally put the guitar back in his hands. This episode traces Justin’s powerful transformation, the birth of his music career, and the spiritual awakening that reignited his faith. His 2023 album Made New and the ongoing annual revival in his hometown are living proof of God’s faithfulness and redemption. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Justin went from addiction and theft to leading worship in Iraq Why his first deployment became the turning point in his spiritual journey The role of music in reconnecting with God during his darkest season How COVID-19 shutdowns helped him rediscover his purpose What it means to truly surrender your platform and calling to God The incredible story behind the founding of a county-wide revival in the same courthouse where he once stood trial Key Moments: 03:00 – Justin’s musical roots and discovering Christian music 10:00 – Addiction, brokenness, and being arrested at 18 13:00 – Choosing military service over a felony conviction 18:00 – Feeling lost in Iraq and reconnecting with God through worship 23:00 – Leading worship for fellow soldiers and rebuilding faith 29:00 – Going full-time in music and launching his career 35:00 – Falling into complacency and chasing popularity in Christian music 39:00 – The spiritual breakthrough during COVID that inspired Made New 43:00 – The full-circle moment of leading worship on the courthouse steps 47:00 – Launching an annual revival and walking in true purpose Closing Thought: Justin’s story is a reminder that no matter how far you've fallen, God is still writing your story—and sometimes He puts the guitar back in your hands just when you think the music is over. Resources & Links: Listen to Justin Gambino’s album Made New on all streaming platforms Follow Justin on Instagram: @justingambinomusic Learn more at justingambino.com Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36836580

JOHN CHISUM: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making 07/21/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue their deep dive into what it means to build a career in the current music landscape. They break down how the music business has radically changed in recent years, why anyone can now record and distribute music, and what that means for artists trying to rise above the noise. John and Bryant also get practical, discussing how to identify your “why,” set realistic goals, and map out the next right steps for your music. From learning the craft to investing wisely in production and marketing, they highlight the common pitfalls and the importance of not rushing into expensive projects before your songs are truly ready. Drawing on stories from artists like Howard Gripp and Katrina Pacheco, they demonstrate how patience, coaching, and strategic planning lead to long-term success. They also stress why building your skills and your message is essential before stepping into the studio or pursuing larger platforms. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How streaming, technology, and user-generated content have transformed the music industry Why quality matters more than ever in a market saturated with average songs The crucial role of understanding your mission and message as an artist Practical examples of artists who took time to develop before seeing breakthroughs How to wisely approach production, avoid common traps, and make your money count The benefits of mentorship, coaching, and being part of a creative community Key Topics and Highlights: The democratization of music: anyone can now produce and release songs, for better or worse Why thousands of songs on Spotify never get a single play—and how to stand out How to clarify your “why” so you can create music with clear purpose and focus Real-world examples of artists who spent years developing before landing record deals or large ministry opportunities Why rushing into the studio often backfires and how to avoid wasting money on songs that aren’t ready The role of producers in shaping an authentic sound that fits both your message and your audience How NCS helps artists and songwriters at every stage, from first drafts to full-scale releases Practical Next Steps Discussed: Write consistently to hone your craft before anything else Record simple demos to capture ideas and start shaping your sound Seek out honest feedback and coaching to strengthen your writing Decide whether to produce yourself or hire a producer—and how to choose wisely Build a plan around your first professional recording rather than jumping in blind Understand that making it in music is a long process that requires patience, investment, and strategic growth Final Takeaway: No matter your age, background, or level of experience, the most important thing is to keep growing in your songwriting, stay clear on your mission, and take the next right step—without skipping the foundation that will make your music truly impactful. Get Involved: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective - Check out the artists we’re working with! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/37274655

CHRIS WEINBERG: Build a Business For Your Music 07/14/2025

CHRIS WEINBERG: Build a Business For Your Music Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Special Guest: Chris Weinberg Episode Title: CHRIS WEINBERG: Build a Business For Your Music Episode Summary: This week on Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Chris Weinberg, a top business and performance coach who has worked with Fortune 500 executives, artists, entertainment companies, and entrepreneurs. As someone who has helped creative professionals turn their passion into a sustainable business, Chris shares valuable insights on what it takes to monetize your music career. If you’re a songwriter, independent artist, or creative professional trying to navigate the business side of music, this episode is packed with real-world strategies to help you structure your success. Chris breaks down his four pillars for a thriving business—People, Sales, Profit, and Self—and explains why balancing these elements is crucial for any artist looking to grow their career. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The difference between coaching and consulting—and why both matter How to think like a CEO of your own music career Why artists struggle with the business side of music—and how to overcome it The four essential pillars of business success: People, Sales, Profit & Self How to build multiple revenue streams as a songwriter and musician Practical steps to monetize your music and develop your brand Key Moments: [03:03] – Chris Weinberg’s journey into coaching & working with creatives [05:52] – Coaching vs. consulting: What’s the difference? [08:27] – The biggest challenges creative people face in business [13:12] – Why successful artists need business coaching [19:08] – Breaking down the four pillars of success [26:07] – The mindset shift: Treating your music as a business, not a hobby [32:52] – The value of investing in coaching for long-term growth [37:09] – Final takeaways: Why you need a plan for success Get Involved: Check out what Chris is doing at Well Coached NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36837035

JOHN CHISUM: How Music Works Now 07/07/2025

JOHN CHISUM: How Music Works Now Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: How Music Works Now Episode Summary: In this kickoff episode for July, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich reflect on the first half of 2025 and introduce the month’s focus: understanding how the music industry works today. They explore the challenges and changes facing songwriters and artists, especially those operating outside traditional industry systems. From redefining what “making it” means to embracing the calling of songwriting at every level, this episode delivers both practical insight and encouragement for Christian creatives. John and Bryant share lessons from their own journeys, reflect on standout moments from past guests, and unpack why success looks different for everyone—from indie artists like Jason Lovins and Justin Gambino to songwriters working quietly at home. The conversation highlights the importance of obedience, daily faithfulness, and allowing God to shape your creative path—one step at a time. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: - How the definition of “success” in music has evolved - Why comparison is one of the biggest creativity killers - What it takes to build a career in today’s indie music economy - Why obedience and consistency are more valuable than overnight success - How NCS is helping songwriters at every stage of their journey - Practical resources to understand the business side of music Key Moments: - Reflecting on standout episodes and guests from 2025 so far - Why the indie artist model is more relevant than ever - Breaking down the myth of “overnight fame” - How John rebuilt his music career at age 58 - The power of obedience in creative and career decisions -Why your journey is valid—no matter what stage you're in -Resources and book recommendations for navigating the music business - A preview of upcoming episodes on building a business and mapping your next steps Recommended Resources: - How to Make It in the New Music Business by Ari Herstand - How to Make a Living in the Music Business by Vince Wilcox - NCS Free Monthly Training – First Monday of each month - NCS Community for coaching, connection, and weekly support - Upcoming NCS Songwriting Retreat: October 16–18, 2025 Take the Next Step: Whether you're a hobbyist, a worship leader, or a developing artist, NCS has tools to help you grow. From free resources to deep-dive coaching, you’re invited to take one step forward on your songwriting journey. Visit nashvillechristiansongwriters.com to learn more, explore our library of past podcast episodes, and access everything from blogs to artist development programs. Get Involved: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective - Check out the artists we’re working with! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/37154305

MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR 06/30/2025

MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Mandy Morris (Executive Coach, Therapist, EMDR Specialist) Episode Title: MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR Episode Summary: In this compelling episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Mandy Morris, a licensed therapist, executive psychological coach, and EMDR specialist. Together, they explore how trauma, subconscious belief systems, and emotional blocks can interfere with creativity—and how tools like EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) can help artists, songwriters, and leaders break through creative roadblocks and limiting mindsets. Mandy shares powerful insights into the connection between childhood wiring and adult patterns, how subconscious beliefs shape behavior, and why understanding your emotional makeup is key to unlocking lasting creative freedom. The episode even includes a brief, live EMDR demo where Mandy guides John through a real-time experience of clearing emotional tension. Whether you're feeling stuck creatively, battling imposter syndrome, or just looking for new ways to access your most authentic work, this episode will offer hope, clarity, and practical tools for healing and breakthrough. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How subconscious beliefs formed in childhood influence adult creativity and behavior The difference between conscious and subconscious thinking How trauma—even small moments—can impact long-term performance and identity Why “writer’s block” is often a symptom of unresolved emotional patterns What EMDR is and how it can help you rewire your brain for breakthrough How to begin healing from the past to access greater peace and productivity Key Topics Covered: What executive psychological coaching is and how it can help creatives and leaders How EMDR works and why it’s effective for emotional healing The false messages we carry from childhood and how to rewrite them Why not all creative blocks are craft-related—many are emotional How bilateral stimulation helps calm the nervous system and open new pathways Practical advice for songwriters and creatives to process anxiety, fear of failure, and shame Try It Yourself: Mandy walks John through a live mini-EMDR session focused on the fear of failure. The brief but effective tapping sequence provides a glimpse into how physical and neurological techniques can bring emotional relief and mental clarity—even in just a few minutes. Closing Thought: You don’t have to stay stuck. Creativity can be restored, and healing is possible. When you clear the emotional clutter, your best work—and your truest self—can finally come through. Resources & Links: Learn more about Mandy Morris and her work https://mandyemorris.com/ Try the So Free app (currently in beta), designed to reset your nervous system in two minutes Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36773765

SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert 06/23/2025

SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert Host: John Chisum Episode Summary: In this deeply moving episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes recording artist and worship leader Sarah Kroger for an honest conversation about faith, identity, songwriting, and spiritual wilderness. With a contemplative heart and a background shaped by Catholic tradition, Sarah shares how her latest album A New Reality was birthed in a season of silence and questioning. Together, John and Sarah explore what it means to embrace mystery in the Christian life, the importance of living in the present moment, and how belovedness can become an anchor in seasons of darkness. They also discuss the role of co-writing in Sarah's journey, her musical influences, and the inspiration behind standout tracks like “Galaxies,” “Ghost,” and the beloved fan-favorite “Belovedness.” Whether you’re navigating your own spiritual desert or longing to write from a deeper place, this episode offers a rich well of encouragement, authenticity, and insight. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Sarah Kroger discovered her identity as a songwriter through co-writing Why gratitude and presence are key to thriving as an artist The inspiration and impact of her song “Belovedness” How contemplative authors like Henri Nouwen shaped her spiritual growth Why living in mystery may be the most authentic form of faith Real talk on spiritual silence, deconstruction, and creative perseverance Key Moments: [01:09] – John welcomes listeners and introduces Sarah Kroger [03:34] – Sarah on gratitude, presence, and the joy of doing what she loves [05:56] – The early passion for music and discovering co-writing [10:24] – Influences from Nouwen, Merton, and Catholic mysticism [13:06] – John and Sarah discuss spiritual darkness and the mystery of God [17:03] – “I am with you always” as a theme through the desert [23:39] – Letting go of old faith feelings and embracing radical immediacy [29:01] – Practicing presence and the discipline of stillness [31:14] – The story behind “Belovedness” and Sarah’s devotional book [36:39] – Exploring “Galaxies” and the divine image within us [38:40] – Writing “Ghost” and choosing sacred, traditional language [40:17] – John reflects on Sarah’s album and the beauty of authenticity Resources & Links: Order Sarah Kroger’s devotional Belovedness: Overcoming Your Inner Critic Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36760200

JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and the Unforgettable Titles (Part 2) 06/16/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and the Unforgettable Titles (Part 2) Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and the Power of Journaling (Part 2) Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Summary: In this follow-up to their previous conversation on song concepts, John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive deeper into the craft of generating unforgettable song ideas and titles. Building on the foundation laid in Part 1, they explore how journaling, active listening, and intentional creativity can transform your songwriting from empty to inspired. John shares lessons learned from his mentors, including Bill and Gloria Gaither, and offers a candid story about missing a major publishing opportunity—proving the importance of doing your homework and understanding your audience. Bryant weighs in with examples from his work in Eauclaire and producing artists through NCS Collective, offering real-world insight on refining ideas and developing a unique artistic voice. If you’ve ever struggled to turn inspiration into impact, this episode will help you understand why writing regularly, listening broadly, and collaborating openly are key to leveling up as a Christian songwriter. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why journaling is essential for developing your lyric writing voice How to find original titles through fragments and lyrical observation The value of co-writing and rewriting to create unique songs Why great songs start with specificity and universality How to listen eclectically and study modern songwriting Real examples from NCS Collective, Eauclaire, and more Key Moments: [02:14] – Heaven on Earth Festival preview (Moab, Utah, July 16) [05:03] – Why unforgettable titles are the core of every great song [06:48] – Lessons from Bill Gaither on writing timeless lyrics [10:23] – How journaling sharpens your creative vocabulary [12:15] – John’s missed opportunity with Chicken Soup for the Soul [14:20] – The cost of not knowing your creative context [16:57] – How melody and rhyme stick with us from childhood [17:57] – Discovering your personal writing voice through journaling [21:34] – Getting inspired by song fragments and rhythmic feel [25:26] – How “Hold On Me” evolved from a beat to a finished track [27:13] – Why spiritual inspiration must still be crafted and refined [30:17] – Balancing nostalgia with modern sound in production [31:40] – The Spotify sweep: a tool to stay current with your genre [33:53] – Creativity is fueled by what you’re consuming [35:12] – How NCS Collective artists are succeeding with strong foundations Resources & Links: Register for Heaven on Earth Festival (July 16–19, Moab, UT) Listen to Eauclaire’s single “You Me the Kids” Check out “Hold On Me” by John Chisum feat. Phoebe Scott Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get your free guide Start your 14-day free trial with NCS Community Explore Pro Song Mastery – Next group opens July 7 Have questions? Contact: [email protected] /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36760150

EMILY HOSTETLER: Heaven On Earth 06/09/2025

EMILY HOSTETLER: Heaven On Earth Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Emily Hostetler (Founder of Heaven on Earth Festival) Episode Title: EMILY HOSTETLER: Heaven On Earth Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum is joined by special guest Emily Hostetler, founder of the Heaven on Earth music festival—a unique and immersive Christian music and wellness event held in stunning locations like Jackson Hole, Wyoming and Moab, Utah. Emily shares her journey of discovering God's love throughout her life—from a childhood of spiritual curiosity in Boulder, Colorado to shaping a boutique worship experience that bridges the gap between churchgoers and seekers alike. Through storytelling, music, wellness, and natural beauty, Heaven on Earth offers a deeply personal space for rest, connection, and inspiration. John and Emily also talk about the power of music in spiritual formation, the artists and vision behind the festival, and why gathering in community can be so transformative for both creatives and attendees. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Emily’s unconventional spiritual journey led to founding Heaven on Earth Why the festival focuses on soulful connection over religious programming The unique role of nature, music, and storytelling in personal transformation How Christian and mainstream artists create a welcoming, restorative experience What to expect at this summer’s event in Moab, including glamping, hikes, cold plunges, and stargazing Why authenticity and vulnerability are essential for deeper faith conversations Featured Festival Artists (2024): JOHNNYSWIM Amanda Cook Dave Barnes John McLaughlin Ashley Hess Eauclaire Madeline Rose The King Will Come Key Moments: [02:00] Emily’s spiritual foundation and discovering God's love in everyday moments [06:30] The slow revelation of faith and growing in understanding over time [08:45] Music’s emotional impact and favorite worship influences [14:00] The thinkers, pastors, and voices who shaped Emily’s spiritual formation [19:45] The origin of Heaven on Earth and its unique vision [24:00] Creating a festival experience that refreshes the soul without being preachy [27:00] Keeping the festival small and intimate to foster deep community [28:00] A look at the daily schedule: morning workouts, live music, storytelling, and stargazing [31:00] Recording a communal festival song and exploring creativity on-site Resources & Links: Learn more and register for the Heaven on Earth festival: https://www.heavenonearthfestival.com Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36760110

JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and Unforgettable Titles 06/02/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and Unforgettable Titles Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and Unforgettable Titles Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Summary: This week on Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich kick off June with an essential topic for every songwriter: how to develop killer ideas and unforgettable titles. Great songs start with strong hooks, but how do you find them? Where do the best ideas come from? And how do you know when a title is fresh, original, and worth writing? John and Bryant share personal stories, songwriting insights, and even a few laughs as they explore how to capture inspiration, refine your ideas, and move beyond cliché Christian titles. Plus, they dive into the importance of pre-writing, journaling, and getting real feedback on your work. If you’ve ever stared at a blank page wondering where to start—or felt stuck using the same tired phrases—this episode will equip you with practical tools to level up your songwriting from the very first line. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why titles and hooks are the foundation of great songs The power of keeping a title list and collecting song seeds How to avoid overused Christian phrases and write with originality The importance of pre-writing and journaling to develop your ideas Why rewriting and coaching are essential to growth Real-world tips from Bryant’s band Eauclaire and NCS artists Key Moments: [02:00] – Launching June’s focus: killer ideas and unforgettable titles [02:30] – How Bryant’s new single You Me the Kids (YMtK) got its hook [06:00] – The challenge of writing original Christian lyrics [07:00] – Pat Barrett’s “Happily Hidden” and why unique hooks matter [09:30] – How to collect titles & why great writers are always listening [12:50] – What to do when your hook already exists in another song [15:00] – The myth of the fully formed download: why pre-writing matters [20:30] – Capturing your best ideas in moments of clarity and stillness [25:00] – Why writing 1,000 songs won’t help—unless you learn to write well [29:00] – Coaching, feedback, and why your favorite lyric may need work [31:30] – Journaling your ideas and identifying the emotional takeaway Resources & Links: Listen to Eauclaire’s new single “You Me the Kids” https://lnk.to/e-YouMetheKids Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36756330

CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State 05/26/2025

CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Runner-Up, Soul/R&B Artist, Educator, Host of Idol Breakdown Episode Summary: In this powerful episode, John sits down with acclaimed vocalist and musician Clark Beckham to unpack his journey from street performer to American Idol fame. Clark opens up about the highs and lows of the entertainment industry, how his faith shapes his artistry, and why he believes Jesus loves the complexity found in music—yes, even a flat five. You'll also hear about Clark’s passion for music education, the emotional weight of critiquing performers on his Idol Breakdown series, and why it's perfectly normal to not feel obsessed with your art every single day. Key Takeaways: Clark’s honest experience as runner-up on American Idol Why he sees music as a competition with yourself The story behind “Jesus Loves the Flat Five” How faith, love, and genuine care translate in the entertainment world The difference between worship as a genre vs. worship as a personal practice Why it’s okay not to feel creative every day—and why you should keep going anyway The purpose behind Idol Breakdown and how he handles criticism responsibly Demystifying music theory through Clark’s online courses Quotable Moments: “Excuses are just permission slips for mediocrity.” “God is the author of art. And when we express emotions through it, He’s in it.” “You don’t follow your passion. You work really hard to get good, and passion follows.” “Jesus loves complexity. He loves art. He loves the flat five.” RESOURCES & LINKS ClarkBeckham.com Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36170440

JOHN CHISUM: Writing in Your Best Genre 05/19/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Writing in Your Best Genre Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Writing in Your Best Genre Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue their deep dive into genre, style, and artistic identity—with practical insights on how to discover and develop your best musical lane. From personal stories to real-world examples like Anya Lee, Clark Beckham, and the NCS Collective, John and Bryant unpack how to write with intention, identify your audience, and stay creatively inspired. Whether you're new to songwriting or looking to sharpen your skills, this conversation will help you understand your artistic DNA, clarify your creative purpose, and embrace your unique sound and calling. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why genre and style matter more than ever in modern music How to write songs with clarity, context, and purpose The role of pre-writing in making your songs more impactful Tips for finding your “flow state” and discovering your lane Why writing in your natural genre can lead to greater creative freedom What to do when your favorite genre isn't "commercially popular" Key Moments: [01:10] – Recapping May's focus on genre and style [03:00] – Musical influences and the evolution of artist identity [06:00] – Releasing experimental music & the freedom to try new things [09:10] – Why knowing your audience before you write is key [10:35] – Anya Lee’s fearless fusion of pop, gospel & testimony [12:00] – Micro-moments of flow: Clark Beckham's unique spin on worship [14:00] – Balancing creative authenticity and market relevance [20:00] – Finding your unique voice within broader genres [25:00] – Why pre-writing and research are essential to songwriting [29:30] – What to look for in a great lyric: hooks, form, and repetition [33:00] – Co-writing and the power of community and collaboration Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36168210

CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace 05/12/2025

CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Claire Bacon (Project Manager, NCS) Episode Title: CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum introduces a new member of the NCS team: Claire Bacon, NCS Project Manager and music industry pro. With experience at Bethel Music, Pure Mosaic, and a degree from Middle Tennessee State University, Claire brings a unique blend of creative and business insight to Christian songwriting and artist development. Claire shares how she went from singing Disney songs as a child to interning at Bethel just three weeks after giving her life to Christ, and how that faith journey has impacted her approach to A&R, publishing, and artist development. She also opens up about the challenges of giving professional song feedback, and how relational trust is key in the music industry. This episode is packed with wisdom on genre vs. style, tips for emerging artists, and how to navigate your calling with both heart and strategy. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Claire’s journey from MTSU to Bethel Music and beyond How a personal faith encounter shaped her path in music The difference between publishing administration and creative publishing What it really takes to give—and receive—song feedback gracefully How to find your artistic identity in a genre-rich music world Practical advice for new songwriters discovering their sound Key Moments: [03:13] – Claire’s early love for music and storytelling [06:53] – Why she chose MTSU and how it shaped her career [09:07] – Giving her life to Christ—and getting a Bethel internship weeks later [14:32] – Stepping into real-world A&R with Pure Mosaic [17:00] – Navigating hard conversations with artists [20:02] – Genre & style: working across musical diversity [23:41] – Nikki Lou’s powerful folky transformation story [25:51] – Genre vs. style: how to define and navigate both [31:08] – Helping writers who feel “undefined” or stuck [33:36] – Advice for songwriters: study the genre you want to write in [35:31] – The exciting future of NCS and the NCS Collective Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36164855

JOHN CHISUM: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres 05/05/2025

JOHN CHISUM: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive deep into one of the most important (and often confusing) parts of being a songwriter or artist: understanding your genre and style. This discussion is packed with practical insights for anyone who has ever wondered, "What kind of music do I actually make?" Using real examples from the NCS Collective—including music from artists like Nikki Lou, Howard Gripp, Eauclaire, and Coby James—John and Bryant explore how genre and style influence songwriting, production, and artist development. Plus, they offer guidance for identifying your unique artistic voice, no matter where you are in your journey. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The difference between genre and style—and why it matters How artists like Nikki Lou and Eau Claire found their signature sound Why knowing your favorite music is a powerful clue to your own style How the NCS Collective is empowering real people to make real music Tips for choosing the right producer or direction for your songs The importance of letting the song guide the production Key Moments: [03:00] – Christian music's wide range: from worship to folk to hip-hop [07:57] – The story behind launching the NCS Collective [13:00] – Producing Howard Gripp’s debut rock/CCM music [15:25] – How Nikki Lou’s grief journey birthed powerful bluegrass/folk songs [23:00] – A listen to Kobe James’ modern pop worship track Mighty God [26:40] – Bryant shares Eauclaire’s evolving sound: cinematic, folk, indie rock [34:00] – Highlighting Collective artists: Jay Davids, Bonnie Barbay, Ezra Worship, Anya Lee [35:30] – How to find your style: Let the song—and your heart—lead Featured Music in this Episode: Million Tears and Valley of Shadow and Light by Nikki Lou Mighty God by Coby James Grow and Faith Is the Bird by Eauclaire Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/36161635

ADRIAN THOMPSON: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music 04/28/2025

ADRIAN THOMPSON: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Adrian Thompson (Head of A&R, Bethel Music) Episode Title: Adrian Thompson: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music Episode Summary: In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Adrian Thompson, the Head of A&R at Bethel Music and former VP of A&R at Integrity Music. They discuss the impact of Bethel Music on modern worship, the controversy surrounding charismatic expressions of faith, and the process of developing and signing artists at Bethel. Adrian shares insights into how Bethel identifies new talent, the songwriting process behind their music, and the biblical foundation of their songs. He also opens up about his own spiritual journey, moving from a Presbyterian background to encountering the Holy Spirit, and how that experience continues to shape his work in music ministry today. If you've ever wondered how worship music is shaped, how A&R works at a major worship label, or why some churches criticize charismatic worship, this episode is for you! What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Bethel Music discerns and develops new artists The role of A&R in shaping worship music for the global church Addressing the controversies surrounding Bethel’s theology & worship style Why Bethel cross-references song lyrics with Scripture before release The importance of community, mentorship, and authenticity in worship music How songs go from demo to finished album at Bethel Key Moments: [02:26] – Adrian Thompson’s journey: From Presbyterian roots to charismatic faith [05:54] – Addressing the controversy around Bethel & charismatic worship [10:15] – Miracles, gold dust, and why supernatural experiences divide the church [17:06] – How Bethel Music ensures theological soundness in worship songs [23:17] – The role of A&R in selecting and refining worship songs [27:45] – What it takes to become a Bethel Music artist [31:29] – The UK worship movement & its influence on global worship [36:12] – Advice for songwriters who feel called to write for the church Resources & Links: Listen to Bethel Music’s latest releases Follow Bethel Music on Instagram – @bethelmusic Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! NCS Collective: Connect With Us: Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35749305

JOHN CHISUM: Building Your Creative Team 04/21/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Building Your Creative Team Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Building Your Creative Team Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich explore one of the most important factors in a songwriter’s success—building a strong creative team. While many songwriters start out alone, no artist truly succeeds in isolation. It takes producers, mentors, collaborators, and a solid support network to bring music to life and get it heard. John and Bryant break down the essential roles in a songwriter's journey—from crafting a great song to recording, production, marketing, and promotion. They also share real-life success stories from NCS artists who went from dreaming about music to making an impact with their songs. If you’re a songwriter who feels stuck doing everything alone, this episode will show you how to build a team and move forward with confidence! What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why every songwriter needs a team to succeed How to find producers, co-writers, and collaborators The essential roles in the music-making process—from idea to release The difference between DIY production and professional studio recordings How marketing and social media can make or break your song’s success Real-life examples of NCS artists thriving with the right team Key Moments: [03:20] – Why community is the key to success in music [06:33] – Breaking down the songwriting and production process [10:26] – The roles of producers, engineers, and session musicians [15:39] – The power of marketing and why artists must promote themselves [18:42] – Social media tips for songwriters and independent artists [24:16] – How a strong vision helps attract the right team [30:00] – How NCS can help you connect with the right people Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35612370

JARED ANDERSON & Kelly Wilkerson: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship 04/14/2025

JARED ANDERSON & Kelly Wilkerson: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guests: Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson (11:21 Worship) Episode Title: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Jared Anderson (writer of Great I Am, Rescue, Lord, I’m Amazed) and Kelly Wilkerson of 11:21 Worship to talk about the power of worship, legacy, and ministry. Kelly shares the incredible history of World Challenge and Teen Challenge, founded by her father-in-law, David Wilkerson, and how their global ministry continues to impact lives today. She also opens up about her family’s personal struggles with addiction and how they’ve experienced God’s faithfulness through it all. Jared Anderson, known for his work with New Life Church and Desperation Band, discusses his transition from a solo worship career to leading 11:21 Worship and how their team is writing music to serve the church and inspire generations. The episode also highlights 11:21 Worship’s powerful new version of the classic song “Rise Again”, originally made famous by Dallas Holm over 47 years ago. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The history of Teen Challenge & World Challenge—a ministry impacting lives for over 60 years How Jared Anderson transitioned from solo worship to leading 11:21 Worship The importance of writing music for your specific ministry & audience Kelly’s personal testimony of family addiction and God’s healing The story behind the new 11:21 Worship version of “Rise Again” The power of multi-generational worship leadership Key Moments: [02:49] – The story of Teen Challenge & World Challenge’s global impact [07:05] – How David Wilkerson led Nikki Cruz to Christ & started a movement [13:22] – Kelly’s personal journey with addiction in her family [19:17] – Jared’s transition from Desperation Band to 11:21Worship [29:47] – Why 11:21Worship is creating new music for a new generation [33:06] – The message behind the song “At Your Table” [36:12] – Reimagining “Rise Again”—bringing a classic song to today’s worshippers [39:52] – Encouragement for songwriters & worship leaders Resources & Links: Listen to 11:21Worship’s new music - Follow 11:21Worship on Instagram – World Challenge Ministries - https://www.worldchallenge.org/ Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35612340

JOHN CHISUM: Creating In Community 04/07/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Creating In Community Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Creating In Community Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into one of the most essential aspects of songwriting success—creating in community. Many songwriters struggle with Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS), feeling isolated in their creative process. But thriving as a songwriter requires connection, collaboration, and honest feedback. John and Bryant discuss the benefits of having a creative support system, how co-writing can elevate your music, and why real-world feedback is necessary for growth. Plus, they break down three practical ways to find or build your own songwriting community, whether locally or online. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why creating alone can slow down your songwriting growth How community helps refine your songwriting through feedback The importance of co-writing and finding creative partners How to find or start a songwriting group in your church or city Three practical ways to build your creative community today Key Moments: [01:26] – The challenge of songwriting in isolation [03:53] – What is Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS)? [06:30] – Why it’s hard to be objective about your own songs [09:34] – The power of collaboration and creative partnerships [15:49] – Biblical foundation: God designed us for community [21:36] – Three ways to find or create your own songwriting group [25:45] – How NCS Community can accelerate your growth [32:23] – The biggest benefits of joining NCS Community Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35612280

ANYA LEE: A True Resurrection Story 03/31/2025

ANYA LEE: A True Resurrection Story Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Anya Lee Episode Title: ANYA LEE: A True Resurrection Story Episode Summary: In this powerful episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter Anya Lee, an NCS coaching graduate who has transformed her calling into a thriving music career. Anya shares her incredible near-death experience on the Appalachian Trail, the divine wake-up call she received, and how it pushed her to fully pursue music ministry. A pastor’s kid who always loved music, Anya struggled with putting herself out there as an artist. But after her miraculous survival, she could no longer ignore the burning desire God placed in her heart. She took action, joined NCS coaching, and is now releasing impactful Christian music, including her latest single, Simple. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How a near-death experience changed Anya’s life and mission The journey from hobbyist songwriter to professional artist The power of saying yes to your calling—even when it’s scary How NCS coaching & artist development helped launch her career Behind the scenes of her new music & upcoming projects Key Moments: [02:24] – Meet Anya Lee: A journey from Michigan to Nashville [03:42] – Her background in music & early struggles [05:33] – Hiking the Appalachian Trail—and the moment she died [07:10] – A miraculous rescue and a divine calling confirmed [14:50] – Waking up with an undeniable hunger to create music [19:26] – How she found NCS coaching & artist development [25:45] – Overcoming fear & investing in herself [29:34] – The songwriting process & working with Nashville producers [32:48] – Learning to say yes to every opportunity [33:43] – Her new single Simple & what’s next for Anya Lee Resources & Links: Listen to Anya Lee’s music! Follow Anya Lee on Instagram – @itsmeanyalee Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35533245

JASON LOVINS BAND: 20 Years of Music on Mission 03/24/2025

JASON LOVINS BAND: 20 Years of Music on Mission Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Jason Lovins (Jason Lovins Band) Episode Title: JASON LOVINS: 20 Years of Music on a Mission Episode Summary: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Jason Lovins, the leader of the Jason Lovins Band, to discuss his incredible journey in Christian music, his powerful personal story, and his 20-year ministry. Jason shares how growing up in a small-town church in West Virginia led to an unexpected encounter with Michael W. Smith, which opened his eyes to contemporary Christian music. He also reflects on the pivotal moment he realized he was called to lead worship. But perhaps the most impactful part of Jason’s story is how he came into the world—his mother, just 15 years old, was raped and became pregnant. Rather than choosing abortion, she and Jason’s grandmother trusted God and chose life. Today, Jason’s testimony is bringing hope and healing to countless people. If you’ve ever struggled with understanding your calling or wondered how God can use your story for His glory, this episode will encourage and inspire you. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How one “yes” at a time led Jason to a 20-year music career The moment Jason discovered contemporary Christian music How he knew he was called to lead worship The impact of his band’s new album, Pilgrim Road Jason’s powerful personal story and how it’s transforming lives How God uses our stories and testimonies to change hearts Key Moments: [02:27] – Discovering CCM & Michael W. Smith’s influence [06:01] – How Jason’s band started in college and grew [10:22] – The moment he realized he was called to lead worship [17:43] – How his personal story became a ministry [22:00] – His mother’s decision to say yes to life [24:30] – How sharing his story is impacting others [30:15] – How pregnancy care centers are using his testimony [31:28] – The future of Jason Lovins Band & what’s next Connect with Jason Lovins Band Listen to Jason Lovins Band’s new album Pilgrim Road Follow Jason Lovins Band – @JasonLovinsBand Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! NCS Collective: Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35423480

JOHN CHISUM: Develop Your Mission as a Songwriter 03/17/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Develop Your Mission as a Songwriter Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Develop Your Mission as a Songwriter Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue the conversation on finding and developing your mission as a Christian songwriter and artist. Many songwriters feel called to share their music, but struggle with clarity on who they’re writing for and how to effectively reach their audience. John and Bryant break down the importance of defining your mission, building a support network, and investing in your craft to take your songwriting and artistry to the next level. They also discuss the various NCS programs available to help songwriters grow—from the One Song Challenge to full-scale Artist Development. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How to clarify your mission as a songwriter and artist The importance of writing with intentionality Why developing your audience and support network is key How to avoid costly production mistakes by refining your songs first The step-by-step process of going from songwriter to artist How NCS coaching can help you fast-track your growth Key Moments: [02:49] – Finding your mission: Why clarity matters [05:53] – Defining your audience and writing with purpose [10:27] – What we can learn from artists like Lauren Daigle & Newsboys [15:40] – The value of community and mentorship in songwriting [19:49] – NCS Community: 52 weeks of coaching and collaboration [21:36] – Deep-dive into the Pro Song Mastery Group Coaching program [26:10] – Why great songwriting matters more than expensive production [31:28] – Real-life transformation: How coaching helps songwriters discover their calling [38:17] – Investing in your artistry: How to launch your career the right way Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! NCS Collective: Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35423450

OUT OF EDEN: Iconic 90's Trio Returns 03/10/2025

OUT OF EDEN: Iconic 90's Trio Returns Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Special Guests: Out of Eden (Lisa, Danielle, and Andrea) Episode Title: Out of Eden - Iconic 90’s Trio Returns Episode Summary: In this very special episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes the legendary Out of Eden, the pioneering R&B/gospel trio that helped shape Christian contemporary music in the ‘90s. Sisters Lisa, Danielle, and Andrea Kimmey are back 30 years after their debut, celebrating their journey with a brand-new version of Bill Withers’ classic “Lovely Day” and a fresh EP that reimagines their most beloved songs. Join us as they share their story, what they’ve been up to since their last album, and why now was the perfect time for their musical comeback. Plus, they discuss songwriting, faith, motherhood, and the challenges of today’s music industry. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How TobyMac and Goatee Records launched Out of Eden’s career Why the group stepped away from music in the mid-2000s The inspiration behind their new version of “Lovely Day” A sneak peek into their upcoming EP and original music Reflections on faith, family, and rediscovering their musical calling How social media has changed the music industry and artist promotion Advice for aspiring artists and songwriters on staying creative and faithful Key Moments: [01:14] – Out of Eden’s legacy and their 30-year reunion [03:54] – Life after music: careers, family, and new callings [17:28] – The story behind their first record deal with Goatee Records [22:44] – The moment they knew it was time for a comeback [23:39] – Why they chose to remake “Lovely Day” [31:25] – A deep dive into their new EP and songwriting process [36:08] – Navigating the challenges of social media as artists [42:45] – Will Out of Eden go back on tour? [43:36] – Encouragement for aspiring artists and songwriters Check out OUT OF EDEN: Listen to Out of Eden’s new single “Lovely Day” https://lnk.to/OOE Follow Out of Eden on Instagram & Facebook – @OutofEdenOfficial Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35354525

JOHN CHISUM: Finding Your Mission As A Christian Artist 03/03/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Finding Your Mission As A Christian Artist Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Finding Your Mission as a Christian Artist Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into the heart of finding your mission as a Christian artist and songwriter. Whether you’re a singer, songwriter, producer, or worship leader, understanding your calling and artistic mission is essential to creating impactful, God-inspired music. John and Bryant share their own journeys in music, from early inspirations to developing their artistry over the years. They also provide practical steps to help you identify your unique creative calling and how to bring your musical gifts into alignment with God’s purpose for your life. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How your natural musical inclinations point to your calling The role of desire and passion in discovering your mission Why life experiences shape the message of your music The importance of investing in your talent and development How to overcome common struggles in pursuing your calling Key Moments: [02:55] – John & Bryant’s early musical influences and upbringing [07:01] – The formative moments that shaped their calling [14:02] – The importance of natural talent and artistic leanings [19:04] – Developing your musical gifts through training & experience [26:07] – The power of desire—understanding God’s call through passion [32:56] – How life experiences shape and refine your mission [38:41] – The value of patience and long-term artistic growth [41:46] – What’s coming next on Song Revolution Get Involved: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35353995

JOHN CHISUM: How Real Studio Production Works 02/24/2025

JOHN CHISUM: How Real Studio Production Works Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: How Real Studio Production Works Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich take you behind the scenes of music production, showing exactly how a song evolves from a rough demo to a fully produced master recording. Whether you’re recording at home or working with a professional studio, you’ll learn the step-by-step process of layering instruments, arranging tracks, and creating a polished final mix. Using the song To You Forever by Ezra Worship, they break down the elements of production—from initial voice memo recordings to full-band, radio-ready masters. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The difference between a work tape, home demo, and master recording How instruments are layered in modern worship production The role of digital audio workstations (DAWs) like Logic Pro and GarageBand The importance of vocal mixing, harmonies, and effects Why having a clear vision for your song before production is crucial Tips for songwriters looking to start home recording Key Moments: [02:19] – Recap of February’s focus on music production [04:14] – What happens after you record a work demo? [06:48] – Listening to the raw work tape of To You Forever [09:09] – Why having a clear vision for your song is critical [12:58] – Recording drums: Microphone setup and tracking process [17:06] – Layering guitars, bass, and synths for a full-band sound [23:31] – Mixing and enhancing vocals for a polished sound [30:59] – Should you produce music yourself or hire a pro? [33:17] – The importance of finding your creative community Get Involved: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35135590

JOHN CHISUM: Writing Production Ready Songs 02/17/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Writing Production Ready Songs Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Writing Production Ready Songs Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into the fundamentals of what makes a song truly production-ready. If you’re planning to invest in recording your music, you’ll want to ensure your song is strong enough to stand on its own before adding layers of production. Learn how publishing, songwriting craft, and modern digital distribution have evolved and why quality control in songwriting matters more than ever in today’s music landscape. Key Takeaways: The key elements that make a song ready for production Why a great song should stand on its own, even without production The difference between an inspired song and a well-crafted song How digital streaming has changed the music industry and what that means for songwriters Lessons from publishing and A&R in the pre-digital era The importance of quality control in modern music production Key Moments: [02:32] – What makes a song production-ready? [04:51] – When does production enhance vs. expose flaws in a song? [07:03] – The risks of spending money on production before your song is ready [14:25] – Then vs. now: How publishing and gatekeepers shaped quality in music [20:58] – The shift from quality-controlled music to the digital Wild West [30:49] – Why songwriters must be open to feedback for growth [35:44] – Writing music with a mission and ministry focus [38:25] – How to grow your songwriting craft with NCS resources Get Involved: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! NCS Collective: Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35071970

COBY JAMES: Home Studio Production Tips 02/10/2025

COBY JAMES: Home Studio Production Tips Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Special Guest: Coby James Episode Title: COBY JAMES: Home Studio Production Tips Episode Summary: Welcome to another exciting episode of Song Revolution! This week, we're diving into the world of home music production with artist, songwriter, and producer Coby James. Coby shares his journey from experimenting with GarageBand at age 14 to becoming an independent artist and producer. He offers valuable insights on setting up a home studio, layering sounds, and making professional-quality music from your bedroom. Key Takeaways: The essential gear needed for a home recording studio How to structure and arrange a song for production The pros and cons of home recording vs. professional studios How production enhances or exposes flaws in a song Why song quality matters more than fancy equipment Insights from Coby’s transition from signed artist to independent producer Key Moments: [00:00] – Welcome to Season 3 of Song Revolution [04:10] – Coby’s early journey in music and production [09:19] – Leaving Centricity and stepping into independence [13:21] – Essential home studio gear setup [21:26] – The process of building a song from scratch [25:28] – Understanding the “grid” and song structure [30:43] – The importance of great songwriting before production Connect with Coby James: Get Involved: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/ NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/35066590

JOHN CHISUM: From Your Work Demo To The World 02/03/2025

GALEN CREW: To China with Love 01/27/2025

GALEN CREW: To China with Love Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 4 Episode Title: Galen Crew: To China with Love Host: John Chisum Special Guest: Galen Crew, Singer-Songwriter and Producer Episode Highlights: Meet Galen Crew: Nashville-raised artist and songwriter with an inspiring global reach. Viral success in China, with over a billion streams across his catalog. Collaboration with legendary British songwriter Roger Cook, known for “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.” The Road to Music City: Growing up in Franklin, Tennessee, surrounded by the Christian music scene. Early songwriting inspired by personal experiences, including his parents' divorce. Crafting a Unique Musical Identity: Fusing fantasy, fairy tale, and mythological themes into his music. Inspirations from Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and Hermann Hesse. The journey from a local rock band to a solo artist with global appeal. Going Viral in China: The unexpected success of “Sleepy Head” on Chinese music platforms like NetEase and Tencent. Navigating international music markets and learning to connect with a diverse audience. Touring China, performing for dedicated fans, and bridging cultural gaps with music and language. Collaborations and Mentorship: The serendipitous connection with Roger Cook through Galen’s grandfather. Writing and producing songs like “Sleepy Head” with Roger Cook. Learning the art of storytelling in songwriting. Lessons for Songwriters: Embracing creativity and authenticity in your music. Encouragement to step out of your comfort zone and share your unique voice. Exploring global opportunities and being open to unexpected paths. Key Takeaways: Music transcends borders, with the potential to connect with audiences worldwide. Authenticity in your art can carve new lanes beyond traditional industry expectations. Leveraging the digital age to expand your reach is more accessible than ever. Featured Tracks: Sleepy Head – A viral hit in China with a whimsical, fairy-tale theme. Explore Galen Crew’s music on Spotify, NetEase, and other platforms. Get Involved: Check out and follow his inspiring journey. Join the for coaching, resources, and inspiration to revolutionize your songwriting. Download the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge Guide to take your craft to the next level. Next Week’s Episode: Celebrating the power of community and collaboration in songwriting with a special guest from the Nashville scene. Connect With Us: Website: Social Media: | Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters! /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/34488695

JOHN CHISUM: Discovering Your Hidden Songwriting Genius 01/20/2025

JOHN CHISUM: Discovering Your Hidden Songwriting Genius Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 3 Episode Title: John Chisum: Discovering Your Hidden Songwriting Genius Host: John Chisum Episode Highlights: Celebrating a Decade of Songwriting Excellence: Reflecting on 10 years of Nashville Christian Songwriters (NCS) and 42 years in Christian music for John Chisum. Announcement of the 30th-anniversary edition of "Firm Foundation," set for release this month. 2025 Songwriting Challenge: A free year-long program to help Christian songwriters develop one new skill per month. Includes monthly free training sessions, resources, and a downloadable guide. Encouragement to set a "giant intention" for songwriting growth this year. Discovering Your Songwriting Zone of Genius: Insights inspired by Gay Hendricks' book The Big Leap. Identifying whether you're a producer, lyricist, technician, or big idea person. Strategies for maximizing strengths and collaborating to address weaknesses. Community and Coaching Opportunities: Overview of NCS programs, including one-on-one coaching, group coaching, and artist development programs. Introduction to the NCS Collective, a record label supporting emerging Christian songwriters. Music Showcase: Sneak peeks of music produced through the NCS Collective, including "Mighty God" featuring Kobe James and "You Are The One" by Bonnie Barbet. Examples of world-class music from songwriters empowered by NCS coaching programs. Practical Songwriting Advice: Avoiding common mistakes like premature production of underdeveloped songs. Understanding the importance of proper song form and market readiness. Encouragement to invest in personal growth as a songwriter. Key Takeaways: Discovering and focusing on your songwriting strengths will lead to more impactful music. Developing skills and collaborating within a supportive community can elevate your craft. Time will pass regardless; use it to grow and fulfill your God-given calling as a songwriter. Get Involved: Download the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge Guide from the show notes. Join the NCS Community for weekly coaching and resources to revolutionize your songwriting journey. Explore the NCS Collective and listen to inspiring music from Christian songwriters. Next Week's Episode: Special guest: Galen Crew, a songwriter with over a billion streams in China, shares his creative journey. Connect With Us: Website: Social Media: | Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters and creatives. /episode/index/show/songrevolution/id/34488570

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