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MADALYN ROSE: Forgiveness, Faith, and Finding Your Voice
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JOHN CHISUM: Time, Tithe, and Talent
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DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean
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JOHN CHISUM: Want to Be a Christian Artist?
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JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials Into Testimony
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: Bryant Urich Guest: Justin Gambino Episode Title: JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials into Testimony Episode Summary: In one of the most powerful episodes of Song Revolution to date, host Bryant Urich sits down with recording artist and worship leader Justin Gambino, who shares his raw and redemptive life story—from addiction and criminal charges at age 18, to leading worship in Iraq, to becoming a full-time touring Christian artist. Raised in church and homeschooled in small-town Texas, Justin began his musical journey strumming his Bible as a...
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JOHN CHISUM: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making
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CHRIS WEINBERG: Build a Business For Your Music
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JOHN CHISUM: How Music Works Now
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MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Mandy Morris (Executive Coach, Therapist, EMDR Specialist) Episode Title: MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR Episode Summary: In this compelling episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Mandy Morris, a licensed therapist, executive psychological coach, and EMDR specialist. Together, they explore how trauma, subconscious belief systems, and emotional blocks can interfere with creativity—and how tools like EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) can help artists,...
info_outlineSong Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: How Music Works Now
Episode Summary:
In this kickoff episode for July, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich reflect on the first half of 2025 and introduce the month’s focus: understanding how the music industry works today. They explore the challenges and changes facing songwriters and artists, especially those operating outside traditional industry systems. From redefining what “making it” means to embracing the calling of songwriting at every level, this episode delivers both practical insight and encouragement for Christian creatives.
John and Bryant share lessons from their own journeys, reflect on standout moments from past guests, and unpack why success looks different for everyone—from indie artists like Jason Lovins and Justin Gambino to songwriters working quietly at home. The conversation highlights the importance of obedience, daily faithfulness, and allowing God to shape your creative path—one step at a time.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How the definition of “success” in music has evolved
- Why comparison is one of the biggest creativity killers
- What it takes to build a career in today’s indie music economy
- Why obedience and consistency are more valuable than overnight success
- How NCS is helping songwriters at every stage of their journey
- Practical resources to understand the business side of music
Key Moments:
- Reflecting on standout episodes and guests from 2025 so far
- Why the indie artist model is more relevant than ever
- Breaking down the myth of “overnight fame”
- How John rebuilt his music career at age 58
- The power of obedience in creative and career decisions
-Why your journey is valid—no matter what stage you're in
-Resources and book recommendations for navigating the music business
- A preview of upcoming episodes on building a business and mapping your next steps
Recommended Resources:
- How to Make It in the New Music Business by Ari Herstand
- How to Make a Living in the Music Business by Vince Wilcox
- NCS Free Monthly Training – First Monday of each month
- NCS Community for coaching, connection, and weekly support
- Upcoming NCS Songwriting Retreat: October 16–18, 2025
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