JOHN CHISUM: How Music Works Now

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3

 

Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich

 

Episode Title: How Music Works Now

 

Episode Summary:
In this kickoff episode for July, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich reflect on the first half of 2025 and introduce the month’s focus: understanding how the music industry works today. They explore the challenges and changes facing songwriters and artists, especially those operating outside traditional industry systems. From redefining what “making it” means to embracing the calling of songwriting at every level, this episode delivers both practical insight and encouragement for Christian creatives.

 

John and Bryant share lessons from their own journeys, reflect on standout moments from past guests, and unpack why success looks different for everyone—from indie artists like Jason Lovins and Justin Gambino to songwriters working quietly at home. The conversation highlights the importance of obedience, daily faithfulness, and allowing God to shape your creative path—one step at a time.

 

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

- How the definition of “success” in music has evolved

- Why comparison is one of the biggest creativity killers

- What it takes to build a career in today’s indie music economy

- Why obedience and consistency are more valuable than overnight success

- How NCS is helping songwriters at every stage of their journey

- Practical resources to understand the business side of music

 

Key Moments:

- Reflecting on standout episodes and guests from 2025 so far

- Why the indie artist model is more relevant than ever

- Breaking down the myth of “overnight fame”

- How John rebuilt his music career at age 58

- The power of obedience in creative and career decisions

 -Why your journey is valid—no matter what stage you're in

 -Resources and book recommendations for navigating the music business

- A preview of upcoming episodes on building a business and mapping your next steps

 

Recommended Resources:

- How to Make It in the New Music Business by Ari Herstand

- How to Make a Living in the Music Business by Vince Wilcox

- NCS Free Monthly Training – First Monday of each month

- NCS Community for coaching, connection, and weekly support

- Upcoming NCS Songwriting Retreat: October 16–18, 2025

 

Take the Next Step:
Whether you're a hobbyist, a worship leader, or a developing artist, NCS has tools to help you grow. From free resources to deep-dive coaching, you’re invited to take one step forward on your songwriting journey.

Visit nashvillechristiansongwriters.com to learn more, explore our library of past podcast episodes, and access everything from blogs to artist development programs.

 

Get Involved:

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https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025

 

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https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/

 

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Connect With Us:

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