JOHN CHISUM: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3

 

Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich

 

Episode Title: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making

 

Episode Summary:
In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue their deep dive into what it means to build a career in the current music landscape. They break down how the music business has radically changed in recent years, why anyone can now record and distribute music, and what that means for artists trying to rise above the noise.

 

John and Bryant also get practical, discussing how to identify your “why,” set realistic goals, and map out the next right steps for your music. From learning the craft to investing wisely in production and marketing, they highlight the common pitfalls and the importance of not rushing into expensive projects before your songs are truly ready.

 

Drawing on stories from artists like Howard Gripp and Katrina Pacheco, they demonstrate how patience, coaching, and strategic planning lead to long-term success. They also stress why building your skills and your message is essential before stepping into the studio or pursuing larger platforms.

 

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• How streaming, technology, and user-generated content have transformed the music industry
• Why quality matters more than ever in a market saturated with average songs
• The crucial role of understanding your mission and message as an artist
• Practical examples of artists who took time to develop before seeing breakthroughs
• How to wisely approach production, avoid common traps, and make your money count
• The benefits of mentorship, coaching, and being part of a creative community

 

Key Topics and Highlights:

• The democratization of music: anyone can now produce and release songs, for better or worse
• Why thousands of songs on Spotify never get a single play—and how to stand out
• How to clarify your “why” so you can create music with clear purpose and focus
• Real-world examples of artists who spent years developing before landing record deals or large ministry opportunities
• Why rushing into the studio often backfires and how to avoid wasting money on songs that aren’t ready
• The role of producers in shaping an authentic sound that fits both your message and your audience
• How NCS helps artists and songwriters at every stage, from first drafts to full-scale releases

 

Practical Next Steps Discussed:

• Write consistently to hone your craft before anything else
• Record simple demos to capture ideas and start shaping your sound
• Seek out honest feedback and coaching to strengthen your writing
• Decide whether to produce yourself or hire a producer—and how to choose wisely
• Build a plan around your first professional recording rather than jumping in blind
• Understand that making it in music is a long process that requires patience, investment, and strategic growth

 

Final Takeaway:
No matter your age, background, or level of experience, the most important thing is to keep growing in your songwriting, stay clear on your mission, and take the next right step—without skipping the foundation that will make your music truly impactful.

 

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