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150: How is the Wilderness Therapy Field Changing?

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

Release Date: 01/18/2022

291: Rethinking Therapeutic Consulting: A Conversation with Amanda Thomas show art 291: Rethinking Therapeutic Consulting: A Conversation with Amanda Thomas

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

What if “consulting” in mental health meant more than just placement? In this episode Will speaks with Amanda Thomas, founder of , about how she and her team are reimagining therapeutic consulting for families navigating complex emotional and behavioral challenges. Their clinically informed, team-based approach blends therapy, coaching, and systems navigation to meet families where they are—often before residential or wilderness treatment becomes necessary. Drawing on her deep background in wilderness therapy and outdoor leadership, Amanda shares how Cobalt bridges the gap between...

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290: The Truths about Wilderness Therapy: What Outcome Research Shows show art 290: The Truths about Wilderness Therapy: What Outcome Research Shows

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

What do wilderness therapy outcomes really tell us? In this episode, Will talks with researchers Dr. Joanna Bettmann Schaefer and Dr. Laura Mills, two leading researchers studying outcomes in wilderness therapy and residential outdoor treatment. Drawing on data from thousands of adolescents across multiple programs, they reveal what the evidence shows about who benefits most—and who may not—from outdoor behavioral healthcare. Their conversation explores why family engagement is such a powerful predictor of success, how adopted and neurodiverse adolescents often experience different...

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289: Prescribing Nature: How to Be an Eco-Therapist show art 289: Prescribing Nature: How to Be an Eco-Therapist

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

Dr. Patricia Hasbach of Northwest Ecotherapy joins Will to explore how clinicians can bring the healing power of nature into their therapeutic work. Drawing from her new book Patricia shares her journey from traditional therapy settings to incorporating the natural world as an active partner in treatment. She explains the concept of the “ecological self” and how reconnecting clients with nature can reduce anxiety, depression, and stress while deepening connection and meaning. Patricia also offers practical guidance on writing “nature prescriptions,” navigating ethical considerations,...

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288: Kids These Days: Rethinking Youth Mental Health show art 288: Kids These Days: Rethinking Youth Mental Health

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

To hear Dr. Will Dobud's previous episodes: and To hear Dr. Nevin Haper's previous episode: This podcast is supported by White Mountain Adventure Institute  offering adventure inspired retreats for men.

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287: The Nature Fix: The Science of the Outdoors and Mental Health show art 287: The Nature Fix: The Science of the Outdoors and Mental Health

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

Journalist and bestselling author Florence Williams joins Will to explore how time outdoors can transform our minds and bodies. Drawing from her acclaimed book The Nature Fix and her retreats around the world, Florence shares what first inspired her to study the science of nature’s impact on mental health — and how awe, quiet, and sunlight can rewire our brains for calm and connection. They discuss the “three-day effect,” the power of forest bathing, and simple daily practices anyone can use to bring more nature into life — even in cities. Whether you’re a reader of The Nature Fix...

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286: The Trade Program: Earn While Growing, Learn By Doing show art 286: The Trade Program: Earn While Growing, Learn By Doing

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

In this week’s episode, Will welcomes experiential educator Greg Hitchcock, who shares the story of —a paid apprenticeship and next-step program for young adults who feel stuck or unsure of their direction. Based on 2,000 acres in New Hampshire, helps participants learn by doing and earn while growing through hands-on training in the trades, including forestry, woodworking, construction, automotive, hospitality, and more. Apprentices live together in a supportive, therapeutic-style community, earning wages from day one while building life skills, confidence, and independence through real...

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285: Grief, Healing, and the Outdoors: The Bright Shadow Approach show art 285: Grief, Healing, and the Outdoors: The Bright Shadow Approach

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

In this episode Will  speaks with Somerville Johnston, co-founder of , a nonprofit dedicated to helping people navigate grief and loss through nature-based retreats and community support. Somerville shares how her background in Outward Bound, somatic therapy, and adventure programs led to the creation of Bright Shadow, which began with grief retreats for whitewater kayakers and has since expanded to serve a wider community. Together, Will and Somerville explore the power of the outdoors to hold grief, foster connection, and invite healing. They discuss the unique ways blends ceremony,...

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284: Nature-Based Mental Health: The LifeWays Approach show art 284: Nature-Based Mental Health: The LifeWays Approach

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

In this episode, Will sits down with Chris Brown, founder of the in Durango, Colorado. Lifeways offers a unique blend of outpatient therapy and guided outdoor experiences—from rock climbing and backpacking to family retreats and professional trainings—all rooted in the “four rooms” model of mind, body, heart, and soul. Chris shares how his team is expanding access by partnering with nonprofits, providing grant-funded programs for teens, and accepting Medicaid and major insurers to reduce barriers to care. He also reflects on why shorter, voluntary wilderness experiences can be...

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283: Alone Winner Nathan Olsen on Survival, Wilderness Therapy and Family show art 283: Alone Winner Nathan Olsen on Survival, Wilderness Therapy and Family

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

In this episode, Will welcomes back Nathan Olsen—winner of the latest season of Alone. Nathan’s roots in wilderness survival run deep: his father, Larry Dean Olsen, was a pioneer in the early years of wilderness therapy, and Nathan grew up immersed in the outdoors through helping out at the Anasazi Foundation and other wilderness programs. We explore his journey in South Africa’s Great Karoo Desert, how a lifetime of “dirt time” in wilderness therapy shaped his survival skills, and the reflections on family, purpose, and the changing field of wilderness therapy. Nathan also shares...

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282: Chris Robbins on Men Healing Outdoors and The Let Them Theory show art 282: Chris Robbins on Men Healing Outdoors and The Let Them Theory

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

In this episode, Will reconnects with his friend Chris Robbins, founder of men’s retreats and husband of bestselling author Mel Robbins. Chris shares his journey from corporate burnout to creating outdoor retreats where men come together to heal, connect, and reset. Having attended two Soul Degree retreats himself, Will describes the impact of hiking, fire pits, and time in nature—experiences that inspired him to launch his own retreats for men at The conversation also explores the global success of The Let Them Theory, written by Mel Robbins with their daughter Sawyer, and how its...

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How is the field of wilderness therapy changing, and is it changing faster than ever before? In this special 150th episode, we will explore these questions by looking at the impact of the controversies related to the field and how the pandemic is changing many aspects of providing services. This episode will dive into different episodes from the podcast to reveal which interviews and topics were the most downloaded in the series and how those conversations may reflect changes related to wilderness therapy.

 

About the host:  Will White is a nationally recognized practitioner, researcher, and speaker on the history of adventure and wilderness therapy.  He received his Master of Social Work degree from the University of Denver and his Doctorate in Leadership from Franklin Pierce University. His dissertation is the first in-depth chronicle of the history of wilderness and adventure therapy.  He contributed a history chapter to the book Adventure Therapy: Theory, Research, and Practice He is the author of the book, Stories from the Field: A History of Wilderness Therapy.  He is also the host of the podcast, Stories from the Field: Demystifying Wilderness Therapy. He has been profiled in Outside Online, the Today Show as well as Beautiful News.

Will recently founded White Mountain Adventure Institute which provides adventure therapy training, consultation, and therapy.

In 1996 he co-founded Summit Achievement, a hybrid wilderness therapy program in Maine that continues to operate in its original location.

He is a passionate advocate for the use of wilderness/ adventure therapy as a catalyst for change. He has taught Adventure and Wilderness Therapy classes at Plymouth State University for almost two decades.

Will lives in Northern New Hampshire with his lifelong partner and sons.