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97 Guy Kawasaki - Tech Guru Discovers Surfing at 60

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

Release Date: 06/19/2024

Why Paddling is 90% of Surfing - And How to Master It with Rob Case show art Why Paddling is 90% of Surfing - And How to Master It with Rob Case

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

Are you wasting energy every time you paddle out - and missing waves because of it? Most surfers spend 99% of their time in the water not actually riding waves. They're paddling, positioning, sitting, or struggling to get back out - and often doing it inefficiently. If you're tired of burning out in the lineup and still not catching the waves you want, this episode is for you.   Discover the three most common ways surfers waste energy - and how to fix them to catch more waves with less effort. Learn why your pop-up is the most important move in surfing - and how improving it could...

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125 Master the Pop-up: Dry-Land Drills for Faster, Smoother Take-offs show art 125 Master the Pop-up: Dry-Land Drills for Faster, Smoother Take-offs

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

Struggling to stand up quickly and smoothly on your surfboard? Your popup might be the one skill holding your surfing back. The popup—your transition from paddling to riding—is the hardest maneuver in surfing and the foundation of every great ride. If yours is slow, clumsy, or inconsistent, it’s costing you waves, confidence, and how others see you in the lineup. But with the right approach, you can build a fast, stable popup even if you started surfing later in life. Learn why a smooth, athletic popup sets the tone for your entire ride. Discover dry-land exercises that develop the...

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124 Surfing: Art or Sport? with Devon Howard show art 124 Surfing: Art or Sport? with Devon Howard

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

Is surfing a sport, an art, or something in between - and does it really matter? If you've ever felt pressure to "perform" in the water or questioned your progress as a surfer, this episode will shift your mindset. Michael Frampton and Devon Howard unpack how redefining surfing as an art form - not just a competitive sport - can transform both your approach and enjoyment, whether you're a beginner or a seasoned longboarder.   Discover why kids often learn to surf faster and more fearlessly than adults - and what that means for your own surfing journey. Learn how to embrace surfing as...

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123 Wave Count Wins: How Paddle Training Transforms Surfing with Van Vu of Basis Surf show art 123 Wave Count Wins: How Paddle Training Transforms Surfing with Van Vu of Basis Surf

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

If you've ever struggled with wave count, paddle fatigue, or felt stuck in your surfing despite hours in the water, this episode is a game-changer. Van Vu — host of the Basis Surf Podcast and creator of the Basis Surf Paddle Trainer — unpacks the core reason most surfers plateau: poor paddle fitness and a rushed approach to board progression... + more   Discover how incremental board volume reduction can dramatically improve your surfing fundamentals and style. Learn why elite surfers catch exponentially more waves — and how you can close the gap without living near a...

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122 Surfing’s Soul: Is It Art, Sport, or Something More? - with Donald Brink show art 122 Surfing’s Soul: Is It Art, Sport, or Something More? - with Donald Brink

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

Is surfing just a sport—or is it something much deeper, a form of art that mirrors your soul? Whether you're a weekend warrior or a lifelong wave chaser, you've likely felt that indescribable magic in the water. This episode dives into that very feeling, exploring how surfing transcends competition and becomes a deeply personal, creative expression. If you've ever wondered why your best session had nothing to do with trophies, you're not alone.   Discover why Donald Brink believes surfing is more about galleries than stadiums—and how that insight can reshape your approach to every...

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121 Exploring Surfboards as Tools for Self-Discovery with Donald Brink show art 121 Exploring Surfboards as Tools for Self-Discovery with Donald Brink

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

Is your surfboard truly helping you become a better surfer—or just keeping you comfortable? In this episode, we explore a question that many surfers overlook: are you riding the board that suits your potential or simply what the surf industry has marketed to you? Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned surfer, learning how equipment shapes performance and self-discovery in the water can revolutionize your approach to surfing.   Discover why changing boards regularly—even riding the "wrong" board—can massively accelerate your progression. Learn from Donald Brink’s radical...

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120 Still Ripping at 60: Tony Roberts on Surfing Performance and Longevity show art 120 Still Ripping at 60: Tony Roberts on Surfing Performance and Longevity

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

What if your best surfing is still ahead of you—even in your sixties? Many surfers fear they’ll lose their edge with age, but Tony Roberts proves that it’s possible to surf better than ever through intentional lifestyle choices, foundational training, and a lifelong commitment to progression. In this episode, we explore how rethinking surfing as a sport, not just a pastime, can lead to lasting performance and deeper fulfillment. Learn why starting with longboarding could be the single best thing you do for your shortboard technique. Discover how the right mindset between...

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119 One Wave Is Enough: The Surfer’s Guide to Managing Expectations show art 119 One Wave Is Enough: The Surfer’s Guide to Managing Expectations

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

Have you ever let a disappointing surf forecast or wavecount expectations ruin your entire session before even paddling out? We often walk into the surf with expectations shaped by forecasts or past sessions—and when reality doesn't match, it kills the joy. This episode dives into a simple mindset shift that can reduce frustration and increase your stoke, even on the most unpredictable surf days. Discover how a “just one wave” mindset can transform your surf sessions from stressful to soulful. Learn how managing your expectations can help you enjoy surfing more—no matter the...

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118 Joel Timmons on Surfing, Songwriting, and Soulful Journeys show art 118 Joel Timmons on Surfing, Songwriting, and Soulful Journeys

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

If you’ve ever found yourself seeking balance between creativity and passion, or wondering how to turn life's challenges into powerful art, this episode is your invitation to explore that path. Joel Timmons, musician and lifelong surfer, shares how his emotional songwriting and connection to the ocean fuel each other—and how vulnerability, self-work, and rhythm tie it all together.   Discover the deeply personal story behind Joel’s standout track “Say It To My Face” and the emotional reconciliation that followed. Learn how Joel’s journey from coastal South Carolina to...

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117 Surf Every Day: How DJ Morris Found Flow in Winter Waves show art 117 Surf Every Day: How DJ Morris Found Flow in Winter Waves

Surf Mastery - Surfing Tips and Wisdom for Lifelong Surfers

What happens when a lifelong connection to the ocean turns into a mission to surf every single day through winter? Whether you're a surfer, an ocean lover, or someone chasing consistency in your passions, this episode dives deep into the transformative power of daily dedication and the personal growth that comes from truly connecting with the ocean. If you've ever wondered how doing something every day could reshape your mindset, this is for you. Hear how DJ Morris turned his childhood love of the ocean into a thriving surf school and daily surfing ritual. Discover the surprising...

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Welcome to Surf Mastery Podcast, where we explore the fascinating intersections of life, sports, and the pursuit of challenges. In this episode, our host Michael John Frampton sits down with Guy Kawasaki to discuss the joys and trials of picking up surfing at 60, his unique philosophy on parenting and life, and the profound lessons learned along the way. 

Guy Kawasaki is a speaker, avid surfer, and respected author. His notable works include The Art of the Start, Enchantment: The Art of Changing Hearts, Minds, and Actions, and Wise Guy: Lessons from a Life

He is well-known for his influential role as Apple's Chief Evangelist in the 1980s and his significant contributions at Canva. Beyond his professional achievements, his passion for surfing, which he took up in his 60s is a profound metaphor for life's lessons.

Episode Highlights:

  • Surfing at Sixty: Guy shares his inspiring journey of starting to surf at the age of 60, motivated by his children's passions. Unlike many parents who impose their hobbies on their children, Guy believes in embracing what his children love, leading him to take up surfing and hockey later in life.

  • Parenting Philosophy: Guy discusses his approach to parenting, emphasizing the importance of supporting and engaging in his children's interests rather than directing them.

  • Life Lessons from Surfing: Surfing has not just been a sport for Guy but a source of life lessons. He talks about the complexities and unpredictability of surfing, drawing parallels between managing waves and life's challenges.

  • Humorous Anecdotes: From confusing directions underwater to humorous interactions in the surf community, Guy brings a light-hearted perspective to the challenges of learning to surf.

  • Persistence and Adaptability: Guy reflects on the broader implications of persistence in surfing, comparing it to career and personal life, where adaptability and resilience are crucial.

  • Insights on Book Writing: Discussing his concise approach to writing, Guy emphasizes the importance of distilling vast amounts of information into accessible insights, mirroring his practical approach to life.


Key Quotes:

  • "Rather than me forcing them to take up what I love, I let them determine what I should take up based on what they love."

  • "The first time I actually caught a wave and stood up, it was magic. Where else can you get this feeling?"

  • "You can sit out there in the water looking for that perfect wave all day and never turn and paddle. Same thing applies to life."

 

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For the passionate surfer—whether you're a weekend warrior, a surf dad, or an older surfer—this podcast is all about better surfing and deeper stoke. With expert surf coaching, surf training, and surfing tips, we’ll help you catch more waves, refine your paddling technique, and perfect your pop up on a surfboard. From surf workouts to handling wipeouts, chasing bigger waves, and mastering surf technique, we’re here to make sure you not only improve but truly enjoy surfing more—so you can get more out of every session and become a wiser surfer. Go from Beginner or intermediate Surfer to advanced.