From Door to Door to Flipping Homes with Nathan Payne, Ep. 717
Release Date: 05/30/2025
Multifamily Insights
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info_outlineNathan Payne is the co-founder of Offer on Homes and Investor Drive, a wholesaling investment firm and real estate coaching platform helping investors scale their portfolios the “Painless” way. With a background in door-to-door sales and a passion for autonomy, Nathan has built a thriving real estate business while living his dream lifestyle in rural Ontario. He specializes in wholesaling, flipping, and coaching clients through real-world deals using a hands-on apprenticeship model.
Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here.
Key Takeaways
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Nathan transitioned from door-to-door sales to real estate after seeking a lifestyle with more autonomy and time freedom.
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He emphasizes real-world coaching through deal partnerships, not just video courses or information dumps.
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Wholesaling success comes from embracing rejection, refining your sales process, and staying persistent through messy deals.
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Building savings and having a support system are critical when transitioning into entrepreneurship.
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Real estate investing should align with your lifestyle goals—not just financial benchmarks.
Topics
From Sales Hustler to Rural Investor
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Started in door-to-door sales before quitting to launch a real estate business with his roommate.
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Lacked marketing and deal flow at first, but invested heavily in coaching and mentorship to improve.
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After seven years in the business, he moved with his family to a farm in Ontario, living a slower, intentional life.
Lessons from the Early Grind
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Faced rejections, lost contracts, and failed deals when first starting.
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Learned that sales tactics differ between products—urgency pressure may work for cable, not for homes.
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Paid for mentorship after realizing trial-and-error was too costly and time-consuming.
Painless Flipping and Coaching Philosophy
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Teaches students by reviewing live deals, helping them qualify leads, and even partnering on closings.
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Emulates an apprenticeship model: direct feedback, ongoing support, and real deal experience.
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Rejects the passive “info-only” coaching model in favor of outcome-driven partnerships.
Living With Purpose, Not Pressure
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No longer driven by money—prioritizes time with family and coaching a handful of serious clients.
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Believes success is defined by clarity and self-awareness, not vanity metrics or hustle culture.
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Coaches students to align investing strategy with lifestyle goals from day one.
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Round of Insights
Failure that set Nathan up for success: Early in marriage, he focused too much on money and not enough on being present—this taught him to reprioritize family above all.
Digital or mobile resource: ChatGPT — a must-use tool for business efficiency and content creation.
Book recommendation: 10x Is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan — a mindset-shifting read on thinking bigger while simplifying your focus.
Daily habit: Reviews OKRs (Objectives & Key Results) and life vision daily to ensure each task aligns with long-term goals.
#1 insight for wholesaling properties: Don’t do it unless you’re ready for an emotional roller coaster—real estate deals rarely go perfectly.
Favorite restaurant in Ontario: Gusto Grande.
Next Steps
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Explore Nathan’s hands-on coaching at PaynelessFlipping.com
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Evaluate your current investing strategy: is it aligned with the lifestyle you actually want?
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Don’t just seek information—find a mentor who will walk with you through your next deal.
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