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Episode 377- “An artist walks into a bar…” Guy Richards Smit on his New Yorker cartoons, his paintings, and humor in art

The Conversation Art Podcast

Release Date: 07/04/2025

Episode 389: The Conversation presents: The Intrepid Artist, an Advice podcast- Episode 1, with co-host Arleene Correa Valencia show art Episode 389: The Conversation presents: The Intrepid Artist, an Advice podcast- Episode 1, with co-host Arleene Correa Valencia

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“To Post, or Not to Post….That is the Question” In this pilot episode of The Intrepid Artist, the main question asked by a listener is whether sharing (or even having) one’s social media plays an important role in grant and open call decisions. Arleene advocates for developing a thoughtful, engaging and empathetic feed, as opposed to one in which an artist is simply constantly sharing work. She wants a feed in which the artist shares who they really are, beyond the gallery setting; whether to use Stories vs. Posts, and the importance of sharing what you want to share, and how Arleene...

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Episode 388: Lauren O’Neill-Butler on Artist Activism, Artforum magazine and the seminal Project Row Houses in Houston show art Episode 388: Lauren O’Neill-Butler on Artist Activism, Artforum magazine and the seminal Project Row Houses in Houston

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Hunter College professor and author of , talks about: Her 12 years at Artforum magazine, including its balance between advertising and hard-core art writing, and how her chapter on was written while at Artforum; the classes on Activism she’s taught at Hunter College, which were not to get students to become activists but to make them aware of its history and context; how teaching activism and writing the book were both ‘rage containers’ but also ways to inspire difference; how activisms ‘expire,’ including in the case of her colleague Carrie Moyer, whose hardcore activism...

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Episode 387: Peter Hujar and Paul Thek's Episode 387: Peter Hujar and Paul Thek's "Wonderful World That Almost Was," with writer and Frieze editor Andrew Durbin

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Writer and Frieze editor-in-chief talks about: His book tour for "The Wonderful World That Almost Was," which has been hectic; how he became familiar with Peter Hujar’s work initially, and why his and Paul Tek’s legacies really took off after their deaths; Peter’s persona and personality as someone who could be as charming and engaging as can be, but also someone who flew off the handle with a volatile anger at some in his life, and how he actually using photography to deal with some of that anger; how Paul Tek appeared to be thoroughly charming and quintessentially hippie-ish from the...

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Episode 386- James Delbourgo on the 'Noble Madness' of collectors- from Charles Foster Kane to Norman Bates and others, and what Freud had to say about all of them show art Episode 386- James Delbourgo on the 'Noble Madness' of collectors- from Charles Foster Kane to Norman Bates and others, and what Freud had to say about all of them

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James Delbourgo, professor of history at Rutgers University and author of , talks about: Why he’s written about contemporary art so extensively, as a history academic who’s very interested in the present, going to galleries and wondering who collectors are right now, raising a lot of questions about archetypes for what would become a big part of his book; how collectors can not only be defined as powerful, they can also be defined as weak, unhinged and deranged, among other things; how the profile of the collector, over time, is more a corkscrew than an arc, with the Freudian view of the...

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Episode 385- Useful Art explodes what your sense of Art with a capital Episode 385- Useful Art explodes what your sense of Art with a capital "A" is and can be, with John Byrne, author of “Useful Art- How Activist Artists Can Change the World”

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, author of “,” and professor of Useful Art at Liverpool John Moores University’s School of Art and Design, talks about: The city of Liverpool and its art community, with about 20 total galleries, and how he fits into it; where he’ll be book touring the book; a key framing in the book, being in a ‘neo-liberal occupation’ that we live under, which has a huge impact on the culture industries and means the financialization of essentially everything; the surprising pushback there’s been at conferences and other events where Useful Art is discussed, including a lot of resistance from...

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Episode 384: Boston artist and lifelong art school teacher on photography and teaching in art schools for 46 years show art Episode 384: Boston artist and lifelong art school teacher on photography and teaching in art schools for 46 years

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Boston-based photographer talks about: The Boston art community (which is often connected to the art school and universities) and why he’s lived there the great majority of his life (he lives in the house he grew up in); he’s a dedicated Mass-hole- there’s an edge to people there and you have break that edge; how he navigates random passersby when he’s photographing for long sessions with his wooden large-view camera (his exposures range from a second to 20 minutes), with people always around him (here’s a short video of a food stand guy singing tango where Jim was doing a shoot);...

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Episode 383- Sarah Khan: Documenting the Immigrant Experience show art Episode 383- Sarah Khan: Documenting the Immigrant Experience

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Hadley, Massachusetts and NYC artist talks about: How it’s a “little miracle” to have a studio (a former chick coop on a farm in the 5-college area of Mass.) after so many years working in kitchens and other spaces not dedicated to her work and where she can really spread out; her short films about the immigrant experience in New York via food trucks (particularly her series), and how she was originally motivated to work in this area in 2015 as a way to follow up on the fall-out from 9/11 among the immigrant community; the challenges she had getting street vendors and other food makers...

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Episode 382: Robbie Conal,from the studio to the streets--applying what you do best to what you care about most show art Episode 382: Robbie Conal,from the studio to the streets--applying what you do best to what you care about most

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Artist and legendary street artist talks about: His family history, including his two activist-and-politically inclined parents, his background in fighting the power; moving up to Los Osos (in San Luis Obispo County) as a permanent residence (back after the 2008 crash), but keeping a small place in L.A.; what he misses about not being in the city (he’s lived in NYC and SF as well as L.A.); his first big moment with public art, through postering, which was born out of caricature paintings he was making of Ronald Reagan’s cabinet, which he dubbed ‘Men with No Lips,’ and alighted...

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Episode 381- Arleene Correa Valencia: From rural Mexico to the Napa Valley and back, fulfilling a family dream show art Episode 381- Arleene Correa Valencia: From rural Mexico to the Napa Valley and back, fulfilling a family dream

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Napa, CA-based artist talks about: Why she lives in Napa, CA, and the two distinct versions of the town, for the wealthy and for the poor (“you’re either the owner of the vineyard, or you’re working the vineyard,” as she put it); how she’s the first generation to not be working the vineyards, his dad having worked the vineyard for a period before transitioning to hand-painting etched wine bottles for a winery (which he had to ultimately leave for lack of being paid enough because he didn’t have an MFA); her favorite wines by grape (Pinots and Cabs from Sonoma mainly), and more...

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Episode 380- London-based photographer and writer Michael Collins on the perils of photography, and art criticism, and why to give your viewers the benefit of the doubt show art Episode 380- London-based photographer and writer Michael Collins on the perils of photography, and art criticism, and why to give your viewers the benefit of the doubt

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London-based photographer and writer talks about: The flat where he’s lived for 35 years, which is getting ‘Wallace & Gromit’ crowded; how he keeps film in his deep freeze (aka freezer) as opposed to anything edible, and how he’s happy to shop for the day, while he points out that Brits see American refrigerators and are overwhelmed by how large they are; and by the way, we’re also bludgeoned by advertising here, compared with the UK and Europe; how he sees our social media consumption as giving in to the impulsive at the expense of the rational, a battle he gives in to daily...

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Brooklyn-based artist and sometimes New Yorker magazine cartoonist Guy Richards Smit returns to the podcast eight years after his first visit to talk about:

His admitted high self-regard, paired with self-awareness, which we identify as being rare; our respective experiences and takes on artist blowhards; his history with cartooning, going back to his obsession with gag cartoons, going back to a New Yorker cartoon book he read at his grandparents’ house when he was a kid; how he started making his own gag cartoons; the steps he took to build his cartoon portfolio, leading to getting published in the New Yorker after a year and a half of submitting (which is much quicker than some); the cartoon he made for the New Yorker website, the ‘Daily,’ that went viral (receiving 1500 comments, not to mention other viral stats), including getting re-created in Turkish by a Turkish cartoonist; how he actually sees the cartoons as sketches for paintings (and gets quite painterly in the making of them); how about half of his cartoons are more insider-baseball-art cartoons, and the one he made that references one artist that he had in mind, although several reactions interpreted it as another artist, whom Guy actually heard from, wondering if it was about them.

In the 2nd half of our conversation, available to Patreon Supporters of the podcast, you’ll hear Guy talk about:

How the parameters for where art can come from have changed, and how humor in art is still held, especially in the U.S., as a bit off limits; how his desire to paint a rock led to his Sisyphus cartoon (every cartoonist wants to do a Sisyphus cartoon); his desire to make a put out cartoons that are beautiful, not really a quality that the cartoon editor, or even cartoon consumers, are necessarily looking for; why the New Yorker cartoonists haven’t been able to form a union, which is related to why there aren’t really any other high-profile venues for gag cartoons to be seen; how he didn’t have a gallery for 15 years, and was “forced to sell” his own work, using Instagram successfully for sales in the pre-algorithmic takeover era, when he got three to four times more engagement than he gets now (and thankfully for him he now doesn’t require sales thru IG as much); his new dealer, Adam Cohen, who opened the gallery A Hug from The Art World three years ago; and how wanting to draw a Miro sculpture led to one of his most popular and most responded to cartoons at the Independent art fair in NYC this past spring.

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