The Inner Work of Leadership with Carole Robin, PhD
Release Date: 03/14/2025
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Every conversation - especially the hard ones - is an opportunity to learn more about yourself, to learn about another person and to learn about interpersonal dynamics - if you can set aside judgment and be open to curiosity. I’m SO excited to share this epic podcast conversation with the "queen of Touchy Feely" - Carole Robin, PhD. Carole taught the most popular elective at Stanford Graduate School of Business, Interpersonal Dynamics (mostly known affectionately as "Touchy Feely"!) for nearly 20 years and is co-author (with co-teacher David Bradford) of the excellent book Connect: Building Exceptional Relationships with Family, Friends and Colleagues.
She has a vast reserve of wisdom to share. We discuss the importance of navigating vulnerability and intentional connection as an essential leadership skill and unpack some of her most powerful principles of effective communication. We also talk about Carole’s conversations with her own personal AI, trained on all of her past writings and course notes…and how it helped her evolve how she tells her own story!
Building exceptional relationships is work that’s done one conversation at a time. Carole’s insights can help you unlock the potential in each conversation.
Key Moments
00:00 The Art of Greeting with Interpersonal Dynamics in mind
03:00 AI and Personal Narratives: The Evolution of Carole’s Story in collaboration with her personal AI
06:01 Leadership Lessons: Emotions in Business
09:06 Vulnerability vs. Strength: The Leadership Paradox
12:04 Transparency in Leadership: The Balance of Sharing
14:58 Strategic Authenticity: Navigating Vulnerability
18:01 True and Kind: The Principles of Effective Communication
20:50 The Importance of Self-Care for Leaders
21:59 Navigating Emotions in Leadership
23:49 Vulnerability and Authenticity in Leadership
30:07 Self-Management and Emotional Discipline
32:59 Curiosity as Leadership superpower
37:57 The Work of Building Relationships