An Army of Healers with Nitsan Joy Gordon
The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast
Release Date: 03/16/2026
The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast
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info_outlineOn today’s episode I welcome Nitsan Joy Gordon, a dance movement therapist, IFS practitioner, and peacebuilder who lives in Israel.
Nitsan shares about growing up in Israel, living near the border, and what it’s like to live in a place where war and trauma have been part of daily life for generations.
She also tells the story of how Internal Family Systems changed her own life. A powerful experience at Esalen with Dick Schwartz inspired her to use IFS in her work back home.
Nitsan leads Together Beyond Words, an organization bringing Israelis and Palestinians together to transform pain through deep listening and connection. Her work is guided by the belief that pain that is not transformed is transmitted.
After the attacks of October 7 and the immense grief and trauma that followed, Nitsan realized the need for healing had grown beyond what her organization had been doing. Today nearly 80 volunteers are offering ongoing support, and dozens of groups have been created where Israelis and Palestinians can process trauma, grief, and fear together.
As you listen, I invite you to notice your own parts. What comes up for you as you hear these stories? What do you feel in your body?
For me, this conversation was a reminder of the power of curiosity, one-on-one connection, and the courage it takes to stay present and open in our divided world.
In This Episode We Talk About:
• What it’s like living in Israel today.
• Nitsan’s organization Together Beyond Words, which brings Israelis and Palestinians together to transform pain through shared healing.
• The idea that “pain that is not transformed is transmitted.”
• A powerful IFS session she had with Dick Schwartz.
• How the events of October 7 changed her work.
• Why people need separate spaces to grieve before they can reunite.
• When she realized the level of trauma requires an “army of healers."
• How the Healing for Peace initiative grew from a handful of volunteers to nearly 80.
• Why facilitators working in conflict zones are learning IFS tools like unblending and working with polarizations.
About Nitsan Joy Gordon
Nitsan Joy Gordon is a Dance/Movement Therapist, IFS therapist, and peacebuilder who has been working in Israel/Palestine for over three decades. Her work lives at the meeting point of movement, deep listening, and compassionate presence, creating spaces where pain shaped by conflict can be felt, witnessed, and transformed. She is the author of Together Beyond Words: Women on a Quest for Peace in the Middle East and the initiator of Army of Healers, an offering of safe spaces to feel and heal across deep divides. Learn more at: Together Beyond Words.
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