The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast
The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems podcast is for anyone looking to find balance and harmony. IFS can help you understand the tug-of-war within your mind and rediscover your natural calm, creativity, and clarity. IFS can also heal the parts of you who hold pain. Hosted by certified IFS therapist, Tammy Sollenberger, this show aims to educate, support, and encourage those who are curious about IFS model of psychotherapy. Join Tammy each episode for a fun, warm, engaging conversation with various members of the IFS community.
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Align Your Mind with Britt Frank
05/30/2025
Align Your Mind with Britt Frank
Britt Frank escaped a cult, rebuilt her life after addiction, and is one of the most grounded, funny, and inspiring IFS speakers and educators around. In this week’s episode, we talk about her new book , and how parts work helped her move from chaos to clarity. We get into all of it...motivation, procrastination, inner critics, cults, menopause, and what alignment looks like beyond the buzzwords. Britt shares how she uses parts language in her own life, how she reframes procrastination as protection, and why your most extreme parts might actually be your best coaches. She also opens up about what it’s like to come out of systems of control and begin to trust your own experience again. As Britt says, “Our parts don’t want us to feel better. They want us to feel safe.” If you’ve ever felt stuck or like your parts are pulling you in opposite directions, this conversation is for you. In this episode, we talk about: What alignment really means (hint: it’s not a vibe) How procrastination isn’t laziness; it’s a protective part trying to help Why “Self Energy is not codependency in a pretty dress” Reframing the inner critic as your best coach What it means to “coach your parts like a team” How parts work can reframe midlife and menopause as meaningful transitions Parts work as a way to “rewrite the script” with compassion and clarity Favorite Quote: “I want to talk to the parts of you that are doing weird things and say, ‘You're not crazy. You're a person with an activated nervous system, and there's a reason why this is happening.’” – Britt Frank Be sure to catch my extended interview with Britt over on , where she talks about her complicated relationship with "hope" -- and what she reaches for instead. About Britt: , LCSWS, SEP, is an IFS Level 3 therapist, keynote speaker, and the author of The Science of Stuck and Align Your Mind. She’s trained in Internal Family Systems and Somatic Experiencing and is a contributing columnist to Psychology Today. Her work has been featured in Forbes, NPR, Fast Company, Psych Central, SELF, and Thrive Global. . Episode Sponsor: Life Architect ✨ Get access to 3 IFS webinars organized by Life Architect (featuring Einat Bronstein, Kay Gardner & Robert Falconer, and Ann Sinko) and receive a 30% discount on selected IFS workshops: ✨ About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, meditations and exercises, and more. Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. To learn more about sponsorship opportunties on The One Inside Podcast,
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Honoring Teen Parts with Ann-Katrin Bockmann, Kasra Mirzaie, and Robin Barre
05/16/2025
Honoring Teen Parts with Ann-Katrin Bockmann, Kasra Mirzaie, and Robin Barre
In this week's episode I welcome three guests--Robin Barre, Ann-Katrin Bockmann, and Kasra Mirzaie--to talk about IFS and working with teenagers. We explore how IFS often skips over this phase of life, both in how we work with clients and how we relate to our own inner adolescent parts. We tend to romanticize childhood or focus on early wounding, yet there’s a lot of cringing and avoiding when it comes to the teenage years. Adolescence is where so much transformation happens. It’s where meaning gets made. It’s when parts start to emerge with passion, intensity, and voice. My guests are each doing beautiful work in the world to support teens. Our teens (and teen parts) need room to grow, roll their eyes, slam doors, and ask big existential questions. This episode makes space for and sense of it all. We talk about normalizing rebellion, exploring identity, meaning making, and listening deeply to the parts of ourselves and our teens who are still figuring it all out. We also talk how IFS can overlook the developmental and cultural realities of adolescence. This conversation left me feeling full of insight and hope. Speaking of hope, be sure to check out my extended interview with this trio over on on Substack, where they each share what is giving them hope right now. In this episode, we explore: Why adolescence often gets skipped over in parts work What we miss when we pathologize normal adolescent development and behavior The meaning crisis and mental health crisis we are currently experiencing The difference between burdens and suffering that transforms Why validation is essential for connecting with teens How Self-Led parenting looks different during the teen years Questions to carry with you: What would it be like to revisit your inner teenager with curiosity? Which of your parts “woke up” during adolescence? What did you need then, and how might you offer it now? About my guests: Ann-Katrin Bockmann, Ph.D. is a licensed clinical psychologist and speech therapist, certified IFS and Somatic IFS therapist, IFS approved clinical consultant and Co Lead Trainer for the IFS Institute. She works at the Institute of Psychology at Hildesheim University (Germany) and in private practice. is a licensed psychotherapist, research assistant, and teacher in Germany who works with people of all ages in diverse psychological, educational and medical contexts. is a Level 3 trained IFS psychotherapist and approved consultant. She also is a professional consultant for those who provide services for adolescents. Episode Sponsors: Curious what Internal Family Systems looks like in action? Join IFS Demoz, a live demonstration series led by IFS pioneer Mike Elkin. Each week, Mike takes on real-world challenges through one-on-one role play, modeling IFS techniques in real time. Whether you're new to IFS or a seasoned practitioner, these sessions offer powerful insights into how the model truly works. Each demo includes an open, inclusive Q&A—so bring your curiosity. Live sessions happen weekly on Zoom, and recordings are available to all registrants. A supportive community can change everything when you're learning and applying the IFS model. The Collective is an online space for IFS therapists and practitioners to connect with like-minded professionals, build confidence, refine their skills, and feel truly supported as they bring IFS into their clinical work. Inside, you'll find expert consultation, supervised and peer-led practice groups, monthly guest speakers, recorded demos and demo groups, and Self-led workshops—all designed to help you flourish as an IFS practitioner. About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, meditations and exercises, and more. Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. To learn more about sponsorship opportunties on The One Inside Podcast,
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We're All Multiples: Bridging IFS and the Plural Community with Dick Schwartz and Tiffany "Ocean" Morgan
05/03/2025
We're All Multiples: Bridging IFS and the Plural Community with Dick Schwartz and Tiffany "Ocean" Morgan
I’m so thrilled to welcome Dick Schwartz, the founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS), back to the podcast, as well as my friend Ocean, who brings her voice and lived experience to this important conversation. Today, we explore the intersection between IFS and the plural community--those living with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) and OSDD (Other Specified Dissociative Disorders). What’s the difference between DI parts and the IFS parts many of us talk about? How can we bridge misunderstandings between the IFS community and those living with more distinct parts? This conversation was deeply moving and healing. I’m so grateful to both Dick and Ocean for their honesty, wisdom, and compassion. In this episode, we explore: The differences and overlap between DI parts and IFS parts Why the plural community has sometimes felt unseen and misunderstood by IFS The harm in labeling parts as managers, firefightes and exiles The complicated relationship many survivors have with Self Energy Strategies for working with systems shaped by deep trauma Why trust, patience, and honoring every part is a prerequisite to healing Be sure to watch the with Dick and Ocean over on our Substack. Favorite Quotes: “IFS was never meant to pathologize people. It was meant to honor the fact that all of us are multiple, and that those parts aren’t what they seem.” — Dick Schwartz "There’s a huge difference between saying, 'Your parts are managers, firefighters, and exiles,' and saying, 'I’m noticing some of your parts seem to be taking on these roles to protect you.'" — Ocean About Tiffany "Ocean" Morgan Tiffany Morgan (Ocean) is a Certified IFS therapist, consultant, and educator with lived experience of OSDD (Otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder). She specializes in eating disorders, complex PTSD, and dissociative disorders, and brings over 30 years of experience to her work supporting deep healing and system-wide trust. She is passionate about destigmatizing DID, neurodivergence, and the multiplicity of mind. She creates compassionate, inclusive spaces where all parts are welcome and seen. She also shares resources and reflections through her platform, , and co-sponsors the podcast A Couple of Multiples. About Richard "Dick" Schwartz Dr. Richard Schwartz is the founder of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model of therapy., He is the author of several books, including No Bad Parts and You Are the One You’ve Been Waiting For, and continues to lead workshops and trainings worldwide through the IFS Institute. Episode Sponsors: Founded by IFS trained master coach Brian Jaudon, a pioneer in the integration of IFS and coaching for more than two decades. Brian and his faculty teach a blended methodology for clarifying and living into a vision of any kind. Enrollment is now open for his 2026 training. pisgahcoaching.com This summer, deepen your practice with half-day CE courses at the Cape Cod Institute, offered in person on Cape Cod or live online from anywhere. Learn from IFS leaders Jeanne Catanzaro, Richard Schwartz, and Cece Sykes, or explore topics like mindfulness, couples therapy and leadership and many more with experts shaping the field. Celebrating 45 years, the 2025 season runs from June, 30 to August, 22. Start your day with interactive learning, then spend your afternoons applying new insights with clients, connecting with colleagues or exploring the cape. Learn more and register at www.cape.org Use Discount Code: theoneinside for $50 off. About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, meditations and exercises, and more. Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. To learn more about sponsorship opportunties on The One Inside Podcast,
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Which Part Is Parenting with Susan Stiffelman
04/24/2025
Which Part Is Parenting with Susan Stiffelman
On today's episode I chat with Susan Stiffelman, a licensed marriage and family therapist, author, parenting coach, and host of the Parenting Without Power Struggles podcast. We talk about parts, of course. Parenting parts. Spiritual seeker parts. Inner children who hide behind locked doors. And how she gently helps people return to center. Susan shares stories from her work and from her own life, including how she stayed connected to herself (and her child) during a divorce, and why she believes parenting is one of life's most profound trailheads. Key takeaways from this episode: What happens when we parent from our “hijacked” parts The power of staying tethered to ourselves, even when our kids are dysregulated How to move out of the “fixer” role and into the calm anchor our kids need What’s underneath those big reactions? Why she says: “We are a society of disembodied people” What parts of you get activated when your child is dysregulated or distressed? Can you be curious about the fear underneath your frustration? What would it mean to “sit in the fire” without jumping in to fix it? Susan welcomed me on recently to talk all things parenting + IFS, which I hope you'll check out as well. Register for our live happening May 1, 2025 (replay available) Favorite quote: “This isn’t about parenting, it’s about the journey of coming home to our true nature.” -- Susan Stiffelman About Susan Stiffelman is a licensed Marriage, Family, and Child Therapist and the author of Parenting Without Power Strugglesand Parenting With Presence (an Eckhart Tolle Edition). She helps parents become the calm, confident “Captain of the ship”. Susan hosts a popular with over 1.5 million downloads and offers online classes and memberships with guest experts like Dan Siegel, Byron Katie, and Gabor Maté. Episode Sponsor: Life Architect ✨ Get access to 3 IFS webinars organized by Life Architect (featuring Einat Bronstein, Kay Gardner & Robert Falconer, and Ann Sinko) and receive a 30% discount on selected IFS workshops: ✨ About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, meditations and exercises, and more. Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. To learn more about sponsorship opportunties on The One Inside Podcast,
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Silence, Stories, and Self: My intuitive path to parts work with Jessica Laurel Kane
04/17/2025
Silence, Stories, and Self: My intuitive path to parts work with Jessica Laurel Kane
On today’s episode I meet Jessica Laurel Kane, a writer, illustrator, and storyteller whose new book, , captures the spirit of Internal Family Systems in such an authentic and creative way. Jessica isn’t formally trained in IFS, but she lives it and teaches it through her stories, illusrations, and books. She discovered IFS organically during a slient retreat and got to know her inner world by interviewing her parts--like characters in a story. Her work shows how imagination can be a healing tool. She makes “being with your parts” feel accessible, visual, and real. This episode is about the power of healing through storytelling, and I think you’re going to love hearing Jessica tell hers. Key Takeaways: “I treated myself the way I was treated.” Jessica describes how growing up with neglect led to internal self-neglect and how getting to know her parts shifted that pattern. How a 10-day silent retreat helped her meet the younger selves she’d been avoiding, and why she started interviewing them like characters in a story. “Only you get to say when you’ll give birth to your creative self.” Jessica shares how parts of us often hold the key to our creativity and our stuckness. Parenting as a mirror: how Jessica hears old internal voices while parenting her son, and how she learned to pause, check in, and choose a different path. “The glue is compassion.” A conversation about looping thoughts, panic attacks, and what it takes to rewire old stories with new ones. How her late mother planted the seeds for the parts work and self trust Jessica now uses to nurture herself and her son. Favorite Quote: "Sometimes I search desperately outside of myself for a place to rest and be still, forgetting that this place is inside of me."—Jessica Laurel Kane About Jessica is the author of several , most recently: Leaving Cleveland: A Memoir, The Boy with the Heavy Suitcase (a picture book) and Once Upon an Upset: Illustrated Stories, Insights and Reflections to Help Parent Our Children While Reparenting Ourselves. She lives in Upstate New York with her husband and son. Episode Sponsor: Whether you’re IFS-trained and supporting clients in medicine work or a psychedelic facilitator looking to integrate IFS, Michelle Glass offers courses designed to build confidence in preparation, journey, and integration. Courses include: “” or her 22-Hour “” Learn more at Upcoming Events: free online summit April 21 - May 4, 2025 - a course I'm leading with Susan Stiffelman on May 1, 2025 About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, meditations and exercises, and more. Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Is It Trauma or Neurodivergence with Irina Diyankova
04/12/2025
Is It Trauma or Neurodivergence with Irina Diyankova
On today’s podcast, I chat with Dr. Irina Diyankova, certified IFS therapist, IFS clinical consultant, and Lead Trainer with the IFS Institute. We explore the fascinating intersection of IFS and neurodivergence, a topic she knows intimately from both her lived and professional experience. We talk about time blindness, sensory sensitivities, what gets mistaken for trauma but might be hardwiring, and how IFS therapists can differentiate. We also get into self-accommodation, the limits of coping skills, and why healing through IFS is a lifelong journey. I loved my conversation with Irina and felt uplifted and inspired by her beautiful Self Energy. I’m excited to bring this episode to you. ✨ Don’t miss my extended video interview with Irina on Substack. You’ll also find a gentle, creative meditation Irina led designed especially for neurodiverse folks to connect with parts of their nervous system. Bring crayons and curiosity. Key Takeaways: “Healing doesn't always bring rainbows and butterflies.” Irina talks about the moment she realized her nervous system challenges weren’t just about unhealed trauma. How do you tell the difference between parts and hardwiring? Irina walks us through how she listens for what’s left after unburdening and what that might mean. “Coping skills that work for others might not work for you—and that’s not a failure.” Why traditional therapeutic approaches (like exposure therapy) can be harmful for neurodivergent clients—and what to do instead. “I have to accommodate myself.” Irina shares how self-acceptance and sensory regulation opened up a whole new window of tolerance. We also talk about Irina’s upcoming book, Becoming an IFS Therapist: A Journey to One’s Self, which offers practices and reflections for IFS therapists. Mentioned In This Episode: free online summit April 21 - May 4, 2025 two-day workshop, May 30-31, 2025. Irina's book: About Dr. Irina Diyankova Dr. Irina Diyankova is a licensed psychologist, certified IFS therapist, and Lead Trainer with the IFS Institute. She specializes in the treatment of psychological trauma and related conditions, including PTSD, Dissociative Disorders, and Anxiety and Mood Disorders. Based in Tennessee, Irina offers professional consultations, workshops, and trainings for mental health professionals interested in learning the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model. She is also an IFS Approved Clinical Consultant, known for her thoughtful, neurodiversity-affirming approach to teaching and therapy. Episode Sponsors: Curious what Internal Family Systems looks like in action? Join IFS Demoz, a live demonstration series led by IFS pioneer Mike Elkin. Each week, Mike takes on real-world challenges through one-on-one role play, modeling IFS techniques in real time. Whether you're new to IFS or a seasoned practitioner, these sessions offer powerful insights into how the model truly works. Each demo includes an open, inclusive Q&A—so bring your curiosity. Live sessions happen weekly on Zoom, and recordings are available to all registrants. A supportive community can change everything when you're learning and applying the IFS model. The Collective is an online space for IFS therapists and practitioners to connect with like-minded professionals, build confidence, refine their skills, and feel truly supported as they bring IFS into their clinical work. Inside, you'll find expert consultation, supervised and peer-led practice groups, monthly guest speakers, recorded demos and demo groups, and Self-led workshops—all designed to help you flourish as an IFS practitioner. About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, meditations and exercises, and more. Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Quieting The Storm Within with Ashley Booth
04/05/2025
Quieting The Storm Within with Ashley Booth
On today’s podcast, I chat with Ashley Booth, a psychedelic-assisted psychotherapist, trainer, researcher—and former oceanographer! Ashley’s new book, , is beautifully written and illustrated, accessible, and deeply rooted in IFS. We talk about why she chose to create a picture book for adults, how parts mapping can be playful and powerful, and how IFS and psychedelics both point us toward connection with our parts, with the natural world, and with something larger than ourselves. Ashley shares her journey from marine science to healing work, the grief that led her there, and the awe and Self Energy that keep her grounded in the work today. Key Takeaways: “IFS is such a visual model.” Ashley talks about why she chose to make a picture book for adults and how dyslexia, digital art, and parts mapping all played a role. What is the “parts unstack” exercise and how can it help externalize what’s happening inside? “All parts are either the steward of a need or trying to get that need met.” Ashley walks us through her reframing of protectors as helpers and the importance of naming needs with compassion. How her own psychedelic experiences influenced the metaphors in the book, and how IFS supports integration and meaning-making. “Self is the conduit.” Ashley shares how visual reminders, art, and little moments of awe can help us reconnect to Self Energy in everyday life. Favorite Quote: "We all need to be able to connect with the love and the compassion that's available to all of us that doesn't judge. And our parts need to be held by that, right? And our Self is the conduit for that to happen." – Ashley Booth About Ashley Booth Ashley Booth, LCSW, is a psychedelic-assisted psychotherapist, IFS practitioner, researcher, and educator. She’s the author of , releasing in March 2025. Ashley is also the founder of IFS and Beyond, where she offers consultation, integration, and teaching at the intersection of Internal Family Systems and psychedelic therapy. A former oceanographer, Ashley brings deep curiosity and reverence for nature into her work, helping people reconnect with their inner and outer worlds. Learn more at or . Episode Sponsors: Curious what Internal Family Systems looks like in action? Join IFS Demoz, a live demonstration series led by IFS pioneer Mike Elkin. Each week, Mike takes on real-world challenges through one-on-one role play, modeling IFS techniques in real time. Whether you're new to IFS or a seasoned practitioner, these sessions offer powerful insights into how the model truly works. Each demo includes an open, inclusive Q&A—so bring your curiosity. Live sessions happen weekly on Zoom, and recordings are available to all registrants. A supportive community can change everything when you're learning and applying the IFS model. The Collective is an online space for IFS therapists and practitioners to connect with like-minded professionals, build confidence, refine their skills, and feel truly supported as they bring IFS into their clinical work. Inside, you'll find expert consultation, supervised and peer-led practice groups, monthly guest speakers, recorded demos and demo groups, and Self-led workshops—all designed to help you flourish as an IFS practitioner. About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, meditations and exercises, and more. Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Making IFS Accessible with Tanis Allen
03/28/2025
Making IFS Accessible with Tanis Allen
On today’s podcast, I chat with , a certified IFS therapist and longtime member of the IFS community. Tanis has been around since the earliest days of the model, and she just released a new book called The Self-Led IFS Workbook: Learn IFS Skills to Understand and Love All Your Parts published by Penguin Random House. We talk about her early experiences learning IFS in the ‘90s, her work with clients struggling with suicidality and eating disorders, and what it was like to write a book that makes the model accessible to everyone. Tanis shares insights on how to begin IFS on your own, the challenge of translating an oral and experiential tradition into clear written steps, and her favorite exercise for working with stuck parts. Key Takeaways: “Your awareness is the beginning of Self.” Tanis explains how simply noticing what’s happening in your body or mind is the first step into the IFS process. How do you know you’re in a part? Tanis breaks down how to begin this work, even if you’re doing it on your own. “IFS is such a strong community… we sit in circles together and learn this together.” Tanis reflects on the power of shared learning and the influence of the “wise women” who helped shape the model. Why she added her own transcripts of parts work to the book, and what she discovered about herself through writing them. Her favorite exercise (the Four Drawing Exercise) and why it’s so transformational for working with stuck parts. Favorite Quote: “Clients will often ask me, you know, does this make me like a multiple personality person or something? And, you know, the answer is no, we're all made this way, actually. And it does feel kind of weird sometimes. But the more we do it, the more we practice it, the less weird it feels." -- Tanis Allen About Tanis Allen Tanis Allen, LMSW, ACSW, is the author of . A member of the IFS community for over 25 years, Tanis has spent her career practicing, teaching, and living the IFS model. She serves as a mentor and IFS clinical consultant for other therapists and is the founder and director of the , a beloved annual gathering held each fall in northern Michigan. Episode Sponsor: Life Architect ✨ Get access to 3 IFS webinars organized by Life Architect (featuring Einat Bronstein, Kay Gardner & Robert Falconer, and Ann Sinko) and receive a 30% discount on selected IFS workshops: ✨ Take a sneak peak at The One Inside Substack Check out The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Widening The Circle: The Evolution of IFS with Crystal Jones and Pam Krause
03/22/2025
Widening The Circle: The Evolution of IFS with Crystal Jones and Pam Krause
On today’s podcast, I chat with two brilliant IFS lead trainers, Pam Krause and Crystal Jones. We learn about their journeys to becoming IFS lead trainers, the evolution of the model's cultural awareness and inclusivity, and what it’s been like to co-lead the newly updated IFS Online Circle together. We also dip our toes into a little controversy—should we skip the 6Fs? I loved hearing from them what it means to stay grounded in the core of the model while continuing to expand and evolve with care, community, and curiosity. Key Takeaways: “The core of the model has not changed at all.” Pam and Crystal reflect on how the IFS model has stayed steady while the perspectives, voices, and applications have continued to expand. How do different cultures experience Self Energy? What happens when we listen for joy, dance, chi, and loyalty as expressions of Self? How the model is evolving as more identities enter the space, adding richness and context. The 6 F’s: should we still teach them? Pam and Crystal give context, clarity, and some new language around how and why the F’s are helpful—especially for beginners. How the model teaches the steps to reach clients’ protectors. We also explore mentoring, teaching, and the beautiful full-circle (pun intended!) relationship Pam and Crystal have developed through years of working together. Favorite Quote: “People are saying how they want to see themselves in the model, right? They want to see how it applies to them. And if we are not aware of our clients' identities, then we might miss it if we're looking for the eight C’s.” – Crystal Jones 📺 Check out my extended video interview with Crystal and Pam over on . About the Guests: is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Lead IFS-I Trainer who passionately shares the healing essence of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model worldwide. She is known for her embodied compassion, relatability, and heart-led approach to this transformative work. Crystal is deeply dedicated to creating safe, affirming spaces for marginalized communities—particularly Black women and women of color—where they can feel connected, seen, heard, and valued as they embark on their healing journeys, both individually and collectively. With a fervent commitment to equity and accessibility, Crystal teaches the IFS model in a way that speaks to the global majority, ensuring its adaptability, inclusivity, and relevance across diverse populations. Pamela Krause, MSW, LCSW, is a Certified IFS Therapist who began her journey with IFS in 1998. She is a Senior Lead Trainer for the Internal Family Systems Institute, where she created and ran two Leadership Training Programs in addition to teaching all three levels of trainings. Her sub-specialty is adapting the IFS model for adolescents and younger children, a topic which she developed a Level 2 training program in partnership with Carmen Jimenez-Pride. Episode Sponsor: IFS Institute is now enrolling for the ALL-new program, a 6-month foundational course for professionals looking to provide an IFS lens to their practice. This updated and enhanced program offers fresh insights, expanded demonstrations, and deeper experiential exercises, all led by two of the Institute's top trainers, Pam Krause and Crystal Jones. Take a sneak peak at The One Inside Substack Check out The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He’s a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who specializes in helping therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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The One Inside 200th Episode: Tammy Tells All
03/16/2025
The One Inside 200th Episode: Tammy Tells All
On today’s podcast we celebrate 200 episodes of The One Inside! I take the guest’s seat as my podcasting partner and co-producer, Jeff Schrum, leads the interview. We reflect on six seasons of guests, the show's impact on my life and work with clients, and why unblending is the real magic of IFS. We also dive into creative projects on the horizon, including my new mini-book on numbness and launching The One Inside Substack community. Key Takeaways: Jeff and I talk about the fun behind the scenes of finding guests, editing interviews, creating show notes and graphics, and releasing an episode. My favorite part of the IFS model, and how I use it in my daily life. How six years of hosting this podcast has shaped not just my work, but my personal life and how I relate to my own parts. “Unblending is the hard part.” We get into why unblending is the heart of the IFS model, and how simply creating space between parts can be transformational. My controversial opinion on unburdenings. “There are a million reasons not to do the thing.” We talk about parts that hold us back from starting creative projects—whether it’s a podcast, book, or blog—and how to work with them. My likes and dislikes...like how I like unblending, and how I dislike when my parts won’t unblend. See also: maple syrup, apple cider, and movie theater popcorn. "If I waited every other week to meet with my IFS therapist, IFS wouldn’t be in my bones. You have to be doing this every day. Even if it’s just small moments of awareness. That’s the work." This episode is full of laughs, reflection, and some behind-the-scenes stories you haven’t heard before. I hope you enjoy it! Episode Sponsor: IFS Institute is now enrolling for the ALL-new program, a 6-month foundational course for professionals looking to provide an IFS lens to their practice. This updated and enhanced program offers fresh insights, expanded demonstrations, and deeper experiential exercises, all led by two of the Institute's top trainers, Pam Krause and Crystal Jones. Take a sneak peak at The One Inside Substack Check out The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a , counselor, and IFS Level 2 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Reimagining Healing with Ruth Culver
03/09/2025
Reimagining Healing with Ruth Culver
On today’s podcast, I chat with Ruth Culver, a Level 3 trained and certified IFS practitioner. We look at Ruth’s , a visual map that connects the nervous system and IFS in a way that just makes sense. We also talk about her work with , a group process that brings parts work into a shared, somatic experience, and , a creative way to explore and externalize parts through colors, lines, and shapes. Key Takeaways: “Parts all have stories, don’t they?” Ruth explains how mapping parts onto her Survive and Thrive Spiral can help people unblend and understand their nervous system responses. How can we recognize if we’re in Flop, Fix, or Flow? Ruth introduces these simple but powerful words to track nervous system states and move toward Self Energy. We can be in multiple nervous system states at the same time. Ruth describes how different parts may be in fixing mode, collapsing mode, or Self Energy mode—all at once. How does IFS Constellations allow for deeper healing? Ruth shares how this group process creates profound moments of witnessing, connection, and transformation. What happens when we let parts express themselves through drawing? Ruth walks us through Drawing into Self, a process that invites parts to communicate beyond words. Favorite Quote: "So, to me, the healing process is story-based, and it is imaginative. At the core of healing is a reimagining. And that’s what we can do with story." – Ruth Culver About Ruth: is a Level 3 trained & Certified IFS Practitioner based in Brighton UK, working with adolescents, adults and groups in private practice. After 25 years in charity event management, she burned out, re-trained as a hypnotherapist then found IFS in 2017. Her passion for embodiment and externalisation has led to 3 IFS integrations: 1. The Survive/Thrive Spiral: 2. IFS Constellations, and 3. Drawing into Self. Episode Sponsor: Check out The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a , counselor, and IFS Level 2 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Jodie Benveniste
03/01/2025
The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Jodie Benveniste
On today's episode I chat with Jodie Benveniste, an IFS-trained psychologist and author. Through her personal healing journey using IFS she discovered how fiction writing and storytelling can be a powerful path to self-understanding and emotional healing. Jodie and I talk about her debut novel, , a YA romance that integrates IFS therapy into the story. We explore how fiction can serve as a safe space for transformation, why romance novels tap into Self Energy, and how the creative process mirrors the IFS journey. This conversation is all about the power of stories—both the ones we tell ourselves and the ones we read. I think you’re going to love it! Key Takeaways: “Parts all have stories, don’t they?” Jodie shares how working with her parts allowed her to embrace fiction writing and how characters in a novel are not so different from the inner characters we meet in IFS. How does storytelling create a safe container for healing? Story is a powerful adjunct to IFS therapy “I had a teen part who made me watch a rom-com 20 times!” -- How reconnecting with her younger parts helped shape her writing process. Teen fiction can support adult mental health, too! Why romance is the world’s most popular genre—and how it invites readers to expand their hearts and tap into Self Energy. What can we learn from the stories our parts tell us? Jodie and I reflect on how parts hold onto old narratives and how fiction can help us imagine new possibilities. How fiction can invite teens to learn about and explore mental health topics, destigmatizing therapy and showing how healing happens. Favorite Quote: "So, to me, the healing process is story-based, and it is imaginative. At the core of healing is a reimagining. And that’s what we can do with story." – Jodie Benveniste About Jodie: is an author and psychologist who writes heart-expanding young adult contemporary romance. She writes about love and friendships, family relationships, wellbeing, and mental health healing, introducing readers to their amazing inner world and its incredible depths. She’s been a psychologist in private practice, trusted parenting expert, organizational consultant, academic researcher, and Chair of the Board of an Independent School. But, at heart, she’s always been a writer. She now writes entertaining, unputdownable and heart-expanding fiction that has healing at its heart. Check out The One inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a , counselor, and IFS Level 2 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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The Duality of Grief with Lara Krawchuk
02/22/2025
The Duality of Grief with Lara Krawchuk
On today's episode, I'm joined by Lara Krawchuk, a grief expert and IFS certifed therapist, to explore how the Internal Family Systems model helps us understand and tend to grief. We discuss continuing bonds, meaning making, ambiguous loss, grief-worthy losses, and unbraiding current loss from exiled trauma. While I have parts that avoid thinking about and discussing grief, Lara offers such a hopeful perspective on the grieving process and I'm so excited to share this episode with you. Key Takeaways: Grief is not about severing bonds, but shifting how we relate to them. Disenfranchised grief, like the end of a relationship or loss of health, is grief-worthy too. Grief invites us to explore the deeper meaning behind our losses and what they reveal about ourselves. Grief is both/and -- we are allowed to feel both grief and joy. Welcoming grief, rather than trying to "move on," is crucial for healing. Turn towards grieving parts and allow them the space to be heard and honored. The importance of "unbraiding" exiled pain from present losses: "Does the part know this is different from the original Exile is has always protected?" Continued bonds with those we've lost can be a profound source of comfort. Favorite Quote: "Self is not freaked out by grief. Self is an exquisite witness to all pain." — Lara Krawchuk About Lara: Lara Krawchuk is the owner and clinical director of in West Chester, Pennsylvania, and the co-founder of Healing Perspectives, a continuing education resource for helping professionals looking to heal themselves, help their clients, and heal a broken-hearted world. She is an IFS certified therapist and consultant, a speaker, adjuct professor, and author with a passion for supporting those living with grief. Check out The One inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Starting With Self with Ralph de la Rosa
02/14/2025
Starting With Self with Ralph de la Rosa
In this episode I chat with Ralph De La Rosa, a meditation teacher, therapist, and author of Outshining Trauma. Ralph shares his personal journey of healing from PTSD, depression, and addiction, and how IFS helped him access Self Energy beyond traditional meditation. Key Takeaways: Self Energy and Buddhist concepts like Buddha-nature share striking similarities. Meditation can be a powerful tool for parts work, offering a structured way to access Self. What happens when Self meets our most burdened parts? Self Energy as a reparenting force Instead of rejecting painful emotions or defensive parts, he encourages holding them with warmth, like placing them in the sunlight of Self. Trauma constricts and healing expands Start with Self rather than diving directly into the pain. Parts are just like people Radical self-compassion as meeting every part of ourselves—including the ones that hold fear, addiction, or pain—with love, rather than trying to suppress or fix them. Reparenting happens naturally when we turn toward our parts with compassion. Favorite Quote: "One thing I’ve learned from direct experience of Self is that it can expand to be bigger than any level of heartache, any sense of brokenness, any sense of wounding, no matter how deep, no matter how wide, no matter how big. Self-energy can expand to fill the entire room you’re sitting in. If you practice with it, if you practice with it and your parts, we could begin to trust that." – Ralph De La Rosa About Ralph De La Rosa: is a psychotherapist, meditation teacher, and author of Outshining Trauma: A New Vision of Radical Self-Compassion. His work integrates IFS, neuroscience, and Buddhist wisdom to help people navigate healing and transformation. Check out his upcoming online course: Episode Sponsor: Propel your healing journey forward with an IFS-inspired trauma-informed digital mental health companion designed for real transformation. Check out The One inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Befriending Your Internal Financial System with Rick Kahler
02/08/2025
Befriending Your Internal Financial System with Rick Kahler
On today’s episode I chat with Rick Kahler, a pioneer in integrating financial planning and psychology and a certified IFS practitioner. We explore how Internal Family Systems can transform our relationship with money, uncovering hidden beliefs and legacy burdens that shape financial behaviors. Rick shares his journey from financial planner to financial therapist, explaining how emotions—not logic—drive most financial decisions. He introduces key concepts like money scripts, financial protectors, and the internal financial system, showing how understanding these parts can help people move from financial stuckness to greater clarity and freedom. Key Takeaways: Money isn’t just about numbers—it’s deeply tied to our emotions, beliefs, and childhood experiences. Many financial struggles come from polarized parts—a part that wants to save and a part that wants to spend. How do money scripts—unconscious beliefs about money—shape our financial decisions without us even realizing it? Financial shame is often greater than other types of shame, making finances one of the hardest topics to talk about. Legacy burdens around money are passed down through generations, influencing our financial behaviors in ways we may not recognize. Favorite Quote: "Every part has a good intention. Every money script is put in place, every burden is put in place with a good intention…it just doesn’t know things are a little different now." – Rick Kahler About Rick Kahler: Rick Kahler is a certified financial planner, financial therapist, and IFS practitioner. He is a founding board member and past chair of the Financial Therapy Association and the creator of IFS-Informed Financial Therapy. Rick has authored and hosts . **************************************************************************************** Episode Sponsor: **************************************************************************************** Check out our new Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Intimacy From The Inside Out with John Palmer
01/24/2025
Intimacy From The Inside Out with John Palmer
On today’s episode I’m joined by John Palmer, a certified IFS practitioner and lead trainer in Intimacy From the Inside Out (IFIO). John brings 30 years of experience working with individuals and couples to explore how IFIO applies the principles of Internal Family Systems (IFS) to intimate relationships. We discuss relational dynamics, including the concept of tracking sequences, differentiation, and how past experiences influence present connections. Key Takeaways: IFIO uses IFS principles to help individuals and partners explore relational dynamics and improve communication. Differentiation is the ability to stay connected to your own system while maintaining connection with your partner, even during conflict. How protectors and exiles show up in relational dances The importance of taking responsibility for one’s own parts in a relationship while remaining open to connection with a partner How practicing Self-Led communication can transform conflict into opportunities for healing and growth. How do past experiences shape the way we respond to our partners in the present? Tracking sequences in relationships reveals the protective cycles that keep partners stuck and highlights the underlying vulnerabilities driving conflict. Favorite Quote: "There's actually some vulnerability under there that's driving this dance. And if we can learn how to help the protectors trust enough of Self to let that vulnerability emerge and be looked at and healed, then the protectors don't have to do what they do anymore." – John Palmer About John Palmer: John Palmer is a certified IFS practitioner, IFIO lead trainer, and couples therapist with three decades of experience. He integrates IFS with systemic relational approaches to help individuals and partners build stronger, more compassionate connections. Episode Sponsor: Check out our new Self-Led merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Loving With Your Parts Meditation by Peter Malinoski
01/16/2025
Loving With Your Parts Meditation by Peter Malinoski
Enjoy this bonus meditation led by Dr. Peter Malinoski. In this experiential he invites you to go inside and connect with your parts to understand their assumptions, experiences, and beliefs around love. Be sure to check out my full interview (episode 190) with Peter . About Dr. Peter Malinoski: Dr. Peter Malinoski is a clinical psychologist, IFS Level 3-trained practitioner, and co-founder of , a platform dedicated to integrating the best of psychology and Catholicism. He also hosts the Interior Integration for Catholics podcast and leads the Resilient Catholics Community, helping others navigate faith and mental health with depth and compassion. ___________________________________________ Check out our new merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Personality, IFS, and the Enneagram with Dan Siegel
01/11/2025
Personality, IFS, and the Enneagram with Dan Siegel
On today’s episode I chat with Dr. Dan Siegel, renowned author and founder of Interpersonal Neurobiology, and my friend, Joan Ryan, Enneagram expert and educator. We explore the intersection of the Enneagram, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and Dan’s Patterns of Developmental Pathways (PDP) model. Our conversation dives into the science behind personality, the pathways that shape our inner worlds, and the ongoing journey toward integration and wholeness. Dan explains how his PDP model offers a scientific lens to understand personality dynamics, while the Enneagram and IFS provide tools for personal exploration and healing. They discuss how personality acts as a filter. Key Takeaways: Personality is a dynamic filter shaped by temperament, experience, and protective strategies. The PDP model identifies three core motivational vectors: agency, bonding, and certainty. How do the Enneagram and IFS complement each other in helping us explore and integrate our inner worlds? Protectors and exiles align with motivational pathways, and how integration allows us to move from survival strategies to thriving. Integration invites us to shift from limiting patterns into greater freedom and possibility. Wholeness is not about escaping personality but embracing all parts of who we are. "Your home base is wholeness. But personality is kind of just a filter that keeps you at times from experiencing that wholeness." – Dr. Dan Siegel Episode sponsor: About the Guests: Dr. Dan Siegel is the Founder and Director of Education of the Mindsight Institute and founding co-director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center at UCLA, where he was also Co-Principal Investigator of the Center for Culture, Brain and Development and Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the School of Medicine. An award-winning educator, Dan is the author of five New York Times bestsellers and over fifteen other books which have been translated into over forty languages. Learn more about Dr. Siegel at: | Joan Ryan is an Enneagram educator and therapist specializing in integrating the Enneagram and IFS for deeper personal growth. Links: To register for the three week intro class: Joan and Tammy's To find your type/patterns: Listen to ___________________________________________ Check out our new merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Self Help with Gabby Bernstein
01/03/2025
Self Help with Gabby Bernstein
On today’s episode I welcome Gabby Bernstein back to the podcast. Gabby is a #1 New York Times bestselling author and Level 2 trained IFS practitioner. We dive into her new book, , which introduces readers to IFS in an accessible and transformative way. Gabby shares how working with managers in a safe and gentle way can help readers connect to Self Energy and begin their healing journey. We talk about manifesting through IFS, the importance of unblending from parts, and how small glimmers of Self can create lasting change. Key Takeaways: Self Help is designed to make IFS accessible to readers unfamiliar with the model, offering a gentle introduction to working with protectors. Recognizing and respecting protectors can create a safe foundation for growth. Manifesting through IFS involves healing belief systems and adjusting your internal world, creating freedom and alignment with Self Energy. "Curiosity is contagious and has momentum—it’s enough to bring people back for more." How can small moments of connection with Self lead to lasting transformation? About Gabby Bernstein: For more than eighteen years, Gabby Bernstein has been transforming lives—including her own. The #1 New York Times bestselling author has penned ten books, including Self Help, The Universe Has Your Back, Super Attractor, and Happy Days. Gabby was featured on Oprah’s SuperSoul Sunday as a “new thought leader.” The New York Times identified Gabby as “a role model for a new generation of spiritual seekers.” In her weekly podcast, Dear Gabby, she offers up real-time coaching, straight talk and conversations about personal growth and spirituality. For more, visit Episode sponsors: Check out our new merch at The One Inside Watch video clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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An IFS Update with Dick Schwartz
12/20/2024
An IFS Update with Dick Schwartz
Episode Summary: On today's episode I welcome back to the podcast Dick Schwartz, founder of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model. We had such an important conversation that I'm excited to share with you. We begin remembering Derek Scott, who passed in February. Dick offers new details on the rupture and repair of their professional relationship over the years, and reflects on the moving they shared weeks before Derek's passing. (If you haven't watched the video yet, I highly recommend you do -- it's beautiful). Dick opened up about his concerns and the challenges of maintaining the integrity and safety of the IFS model while balancing the high demand for trainings. He also discussed his personal journey of integrating spirituality more into his writing and work. Dick shared his vision for the future of IFS, including continuing to expand its reach beyond traditional therapy and into leadership, education, politics, and articifical intelligence (AI). We ended on a fun and sweet note: he reminisced about meeting his wife, Jeanne, and the beginning of their relationship. Key Takeaways: Derek Scott's passion for making IFS accessible left a lasting legacy. IFS continues expanding into non-clinical domains, including leadership training, educational systems, and AI-driven tools How to maintain the "do no harm" ethos of IFS as it grows and evolves The difficult decision to tighten IFS training admissions requirements Plans for brinigng IFS more into the public domain Dick discusses the potential of IFS to address legacy burdens collectively, envisioning a broader cultural impact. Spirituality in IFS: helping individuals connect to guides and Self Energy in deeper ways. Dick plans to be much more explicit about IFS in areas like spirituatlity and psychedlics The IFS model's potential to transform individuals and society--a ripple effect His version of the first meeting and long-distance courtship with his wife Jeanne (her version is ) Favorite Quote: "How often do you get a chance to help somebody you care about transition like that?" – Dick Schwartz About Dr. Richard "Dick" Schwartz: Dick Schwartz is the founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS), a groundbreaking therapeutic model. He continues to innovate and expand the reach of IFS, working with leaders, educators, and therapists to bring its healing potential to a broader audience. Episode Sponsor: Michelle Glass and the _______________________________________________________________________________ Check out our new merch at The One Inside Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Loving With Your Parts with Peter Malinoski
12/14/2024
Loving With Your Parts with Peter Malinoski
On today's episode I speak with my friend and fellow podcaster Dr. Peter Malinoski, a clinical psychologist, IFS Level 3-trained practitioner, and co-founder of . Peter shares his journey of integrating Internal Family Systems (IFS) with his Catholic faith, and building bridges between these two communities through his work with the and his podcast channel on YouTube We talk about understanding parts, healing attachment wounds, and embracing love. At around 26 minutes in Peter offers a wonderful experiential exercise/meditation where he invites you to go inside and connect with your parts to understand their assumptions, experiences, and beliefs around love. Key Takeaways: IFS provides a powerful healing framework that integrates beautifully with Catholic spirituality. Why is it often so difficult for parts to feel safe being loved or offering love? Protectors can play critical roles in bridging internal and external relationships when approached with curiosity and respect. Healing relational wounds begins with internal harmony—inviting all parts to participate in Self-Led love. Self Energy serves as a secure base for engaging with exiles, protectors, and divine connection. About Dr. Peter Malinoski: Dr. Peter Malinoski is a clinical psychologist, IFS Level 3-trained practitioner, and co-founder of , a platform dedicated to integrating the best of psychology and Catholicism. He also hosts the Interior Integration for Catholics podcast and leads the Resilient Catholics Community, helping others navigate faith and mental health with depth and compassion. _______________________________________________________________________________ Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Leadership, Legacy, and Loss with Mel Galbraith
12/06/2024
Leadership, Legacy, and Loss with Mel Galbraith
On today's episode I chat with Mel Galbraith, Chief Operating Officer of IFSCA (Internal Family Systems Counselling Association), to discuss her journey of grief, leadership, and transformation following the passing of Derek Scott, founder of IFSCA. Mel shares deeply personal stories about her connection with Derek, the legacy he left behind, and how stepping into a leadership role has shaped her life and relationship with her parts. Our conversation touches on the complexities of grief and the ways IFS has been instrumental in navigating Mel's professional and personal challenges. She also discusses exciting new initiatives at IFSCA, including advanced courses and community connection opportunities, ensuring Derek’s vision continues. Key Takeaways: Grief often reveals deep attachment wounds, serving as a trailhead for healing and growth. Leadership through a Self-Led lens involves embracing imperfection, authenticity, and connection with all our parts. How can grief and loss act as a catalyst for personal transformation and deeper connection to Self? IFSCA’s new offerings like Stepping Deeper and Demo Days Authentic connection and shared passions can create profound bonds Mentioned in this episode: For more information about I and to sign up for the The demo with Rick Kahler and Mel: Photo of About Mel Galbraith: Mel Galbraith, MSW, RSW, is a Certified IFS Therapist and Chief Operating Officer of IFSCA (IFS Counselling Association), a leadership role she inherited from the late Derek Scott. With a deep commitment to community and IFS education, Mel continues to build on Derek’s vision while navigating her own journey of grief and transformation. _______________________________________________________________________________ Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Unburdened Eating with Jeanne Catanzaro
11/27/2024
Unburdened Eating with Jeanne Catanzaro
In this episode I chat with Jeanne Catanzaro, an IFS therapist, educator, and author of . We talk diet culture, internal critics, and the societal pressure to view our bodies as projects. Legacy burdens, cultural messaging, and our protectors shape our relationship with food and body image. Jeanne explains how healing these parts with IFS can lead to a more compassionate and Self-Led approach to eating and wellbeing. Key Takeaways: Diet culture is deeply rooted in legacy burdens; how can we begin to unburden parts influenced by societal expectations? Many of us start the day with critical voices driving us—learning to identify and soothe these critics is a key first step. Healing our relationship with food begins with curiosity, not judgment. Self-led eating involves negotiating with parts and focusing on what your body needs in the present moment. Unburdened eating is not a diet—it’s about building trust with our parts and moving away from perfectionism. About Jeanne Catanzaro: is an IFS therapist, educator, and author specializing in helping individuals heal their relationships with food and body. Her new book, , offers a compassionate guide to transforming these dynamics through an Internal Family Systems lens. In addition to her role in helping to lead the , she offers workshops and retreats on Unburdened Eating and IFS. Thank you to for sponsoring this episode. _______________________________________________________________________________ Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Psychedelics and Honoring Derek Scott with Michelle Glass
11/23/2024
Psychedelics and Honoring Derek Scott with Michelle Glass
In this episode I chat with Michelle Glass, a certified IFS practitioner, licensed psilocybin facilitator, and author of Daily Parts Meditation Practice®. We dive into the fascinating intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and psychedelic-assisted therapy. Michelle shares her expertise in using IFS as a framework for understanding and navigating non-ordinary states of consciousness, both with and without psychedelics. Key Takeaways: Non-ordinary states are accessible both through IFS and psychedelic therapy, providing deeper connections to our inner world. IFS creates a natural "roadmap" for working with protectors, exiles, and self-energy, making it an ideal companion for psychedelic journeys. Gaining permission from protectors is essential before engaging in psychedelic-assisted therapy. Psychedelics can act as a "key" to unlocking deeper Self Energy and facilitating healing. Grief and legacy burdens often emerge as trailheads in both IFS and psychedelic journeys, opening opportunities for healing. Integration is crucial after any journey—checking in with parts regularly helps sustain the benefits and deepen the healing process. Favorite Quote: “IFS provides for natural healing, so it can provide that transformation of the wounds, of our exiles, the burdens, and the shifting of roles of protectors." – Michelle Glass. About Michelle Glass: is a Level 3 IFS practitioner, licensed psilocybin facilitator, and author of ®. She combines her expertise in IFS and psychedelics to help individuals navigate deep healing experiences safely and effectively. Find out more about Michelle . Thank you to for sponsoring this episode. _______________________________________________________________________________ Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Compassion Fatigue and Burnout with Cece Sykes
11/19/2024
Compassion Fatigue and Burnout with Cece Sykes
Episode Summary: In this episode I chat with Cece Sykes, an IFS lead trainer and author, about an experience many of us share: compassion fatigue and burnout. More than just feeling tired, burnout shows up as depletion of energy, hope, and satisfaction, affecting our internal and external systems. We explore how our protectors keep us going, while our firefighters might lead us to distractions that don’t truly nourish us. We also discuss how burnout builds up over time, the role of chronic stress, and why it’s so important to listen to the signals our parts are sending. For a deeper dive on the topic of burnout and compassion fatigue, Cece is teaching a workshop through Life Architect December 5 and 6, 2024 called . Key Takeaways: Burnout isn’t just about doing too much; it’s about the chronic depletion of our internal resources. Protectors often keep us in overdrive, while firefighters offer temporary relief that doesn’t actually restore us. How can we better support our parts before they reach the point of burnout? True self-care goes beyond surface-level practices; it’s about understanding where our energy is going and making choices aligned with our values. Creating boundaries and allowing ourselves to rest can help break the cycle of overwork and exhaustion. Favorite Quote: "Burnout is depletion—it’s the depletion of energy, of hope, of peace of mind, and of satisfaction." – Cece Sykes About Cece Sykes: , is an IFS Senior Trainer, therapist, speaker, and author known for her expertise in working with complex trauma and addiction. Her book: Episode Sponsor: Life Architect ✨ Get access to 3 IFS webinars organized by Life Architect (featuring Einat Bronstein, Kay Gardner & Robert Falconer, and Ann Sinko) and receive a 30% discount on selected IFS workshops: ✨ _______________________________________________________________________________ Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Tree As Self Meditation with Natalie Thomas
11/16/2024
Tree As Self Meditation with Natalie Thomas
Enjoy this bonus meditation by Natalie Thomas called Tree As Self. Be sure to check out the full episode (# 180) with Natalie, Dr. Natalie Thomas is a psychotherapist and philosopher specializing in climate distress and ecological grief. Learn more: Natalie’s in Parts & Self magazine Natalie's Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram @ifstammy: and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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IFS and Misophonia with Kresta Dalrymple
11/10/2024
IFS and Misophonia with Kresta Dalrymple
In this episode I chat with Kresta Dalrymple, a licensed marriage and family therapist, IFS Level 1 therapist, and certified brainspotting practitioner specializing in complex trauma and misophonia. Misophonia, a strong aversion to specific sounds, can trigger intense fight-or-flight responses, including rage and physical pain. Kresta shares her personal journey with the misophonia and how it led her to create the , a space for exploring treatment and educating others on this often misunderstood condition. She shares how Internal Family Systems (IFS) has been transformative in helping clients uncover the root of their misophonic triggers, often linked to legacy burdens or childhood trauma. We discuss the importance of attuning to protective parts, understanding the deep-seated pain behind triggers, and using IFS as a non-pathologizing framework for healing. Key Takeaways: Misophonia isn’t just an aversion to sound; it’s a complex trauma response rooted in the nervous system. Using IFS as a trailhead can uncover deeper parts burdened by past trauma, leading to more effective healing. Rage responses in misophonia are often protective parts trying to guard against pain; understanding them can foster compassion and relief. "When we turn towards our triggers with curiosity rather than avoidance, we open up a path to healing." How can we view misophonia not as a disorder, but as an invitation to explore deeper, unprocessed trauma? Legacy burdens and inherited sensitivity can play a significant role in misophonia; IFS provides a framework for unpacking these connections. Favorite Quote: "I like to think of misophonia as a really powerful trailhead. When we use it as a trailhead, we often find parts of us that have been forgotten, that are hurting, and that need attention. As we start to unburden those parts, the misophonia triggers get less and less." – Kresta Dalrymple About Kresta Dalrymple: Kresta Dalrymple is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in complex trauma, brainspotting, and misophonia. She is the founder of the Misophonia Freedom Lab, dedicated to educating therapists and providing a trauma-informed approach to misophonia treatment. Links: -to "love letter to rage": - to an episode on Misophonia on "The Heart Centered Therapist" where she talk about parts: - to her episodes on "The Misophonnia Podcast": - on Misophonia and HSP Trait: _______________________________________________________________________________ Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Rupture and Repair with Jory Agate
11/01/2024
Rupture and Repair with Jory Agate
Episode Summary: On today’s episode I chat with Jory Agate, IFS trainer, Approved IFS Clinical Consultant, and IFS Certified Therapist. We explore two of Jory’s favorite topics and areas of expertise: rupture and repair, and grief. She will be offering a two-day workshop on grief through Life Architect in November 15 and 16 called Key Takeaways: Rupture and repair are natural parts of all relationships IFS offers a path to engage with parts that arise during conflict Repair involves accountability and listening rather than just apologizing The importance of centering the impacted person’s needs in the repair process Grief work is a core component of IFS Self does not get overwhelmed; it can be with anything How can we hold space for our grief without feeling overwhelmed? "When we can acknowledge our exiles and help protectors relax, we open the door to real healing." Grieving unmet needs or past hurts allows us to unburden exiles and foster self-compassion. My Favorite Quote: "Rupture is inevitable, but repair is a choice that builds stronger relationships. When we show up with self-energy, we’re more likely to meet others’ self-energy in return." – Jory Agate About Jory Agate: Jory Agate is a certified IFS trainer and therapist based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. With a background in parish ministry, Jory brings her commitment to healing, relationships, and community into her IFS practice and teaching. Episode Sponsor: Life Architect ✨ Get access to 3 IFS webinars organized by Life Architect (featuring Einat Bronstein, Kay Gardner & Robert Falconer, and Ann Sinko) and receive a 30% discount on selected IFS workshops: ✨ Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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Cabin with the Ancestor Meditation led by Tamala Floyd
10/25/2024
Cabin with the Ancestor Meditation led by Tamala Floyd
Tamala Floyd leads us on a beautiful healing mediation to help us connect with an ancestor. It's a clip from episode 177, "Listening When Parts Speak with Tamala Floyd." Listen to the full episode Tamala Floyd is a psychotherapist, author, IFS lead trainer, consultant, and retreat leader with over 25 years of experience. Her latest book, "Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom," focuses on healing personal and generational trauma. Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode of The One Inside Podcast, contact Tammy at
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Self-Led Parenting with Susan Bauerfeld and Chris Parrott
10/19/2024
Self-Led Parenting with Susan Bauerfeld and Chris Parrott
In this episode I chat with Chris Parrott and Susan Bauerfeld about parental anxiety and Self-led parenting. They offer practical advice for parents struggling to regulate their emotions and remain present with their kids, and for IFS practitioners working with parents and families. Chris and Susan are co-presenting a session at next week's titled, which I'm super excited about. Key Takeaways: Worry pulls attention inward, creating disconnection from the present moment. How can parents shift from worry to curiosity about what their children really need IFS provides a pathway for parents to unblend from worry and engage with Self Energy to stay calm and compassionate Is worrying really an act of love, or a protective part trying to manage discomfort? Emotional discomfort is part of life—how can parents help their children develop resilience without removing all discomfort from their experiences? "When you name it, you tame it"—learning to name parts reduces their intensity and fosters emotional regulation. Self-regulation in parents sets a foundation for children to build their own coping skills. How shifting parental focus from worry to connection creates better outcomes for children. "Worry disconnects us from our parts, from our own Self Energy, and it disconnects us from our kids, and the greatest resource that our children have is the connection that they have with us" -- Chris Parrott About Chris Parrott and Susan Bauerfeld: Chris Parrott studied in London earning her MSc and Post MSc degree to become a BPS Chartered Counseling Psychologist. Parrott co-founded , a teen identity development program, and YourChatMat, tools to engage families in meaningful conversation. She is a Level 1-trained and Board Certified Life Coach working with emerging adults and with parents of pre-teens. , PhD is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, IFS Level II trained therapist, speaker, workshop leader, parent coach, and the proud mother of three wonderful, young adult sons. Recently retired from her private practice in Norwalk, CT, she has shifted her professional focus to giving presentations and workshops about parenting and managing anxiety at both national and international conferences and in her local community. They are co-authors of the upcoming book Get Your Shift Together: How to Help Kids More by Worrying Less. Mentioned in this episode: , October 24-25, 2024 by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish , Yale School of Medicine Watch video Clips from select episodes on Follow Tammy on Instagram and on Facebook at . Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is a writer, counselor, and IFS Level 1 practitioner. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, is a PERFECT place to start. Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her Tammy is grateful for who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. If you are interested in sponsoring an episode or two of The One Inside Podcast please contact Tammy at
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