The ROI of Inner Work: Why Conscious Leaders Outperform with Michael Brabant
The Enlightened Family Business Podcast
Release Date: 10/20/2025
The Enlightened Family Business Podcast
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Susan Weingartner has spent more than 25 years working at the intersection of capital and human behavior. Although she grew up as the daughter of a wealth advisor, Susan initially chose a different path. Her career led her through philanthropy, impact investing, sustainable real estate, and capital markets, where she came to understand a powerful truth: wealth is never just financial. It carries responsibility, and when that responsibility remains unspoken, it shapes families in ways they don't expect. As a founder of a family enterprise, former CEO, investor, and leader in philanthropy and...
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The ROI of Inner Work: Why Conscious Leaders Outperform
with Michael Brabant
In this episode of 'Secret Thoughts of CEOs and Business Leaders,' host Chris Yonker delves into a profound conversation with Dr. Michael Brabant, a PhD, who specializes in leadership and personal development. They explore the future of leadership, emphasizing the importance of vulnerability, authenticity, and psychological safety within organizations. Dr. Brabant shares his personal journey, discussing his work on integrating higher states of consciousness into leadership and recounting his path from academia to leading meditation retreats and coaching top executives. The discussion also covers the interplay between individual and collective growth, the significance of nervous system regulation, and the transformational potential when leaders model true openness and humility. This episode offers valuable insights for leaders looking to deepen their impact and foster a more connected and empowered workplace.
· 01:01 Exploring Leadership with Dr. Michael Brabant
· 02:38 Michael's Journey and Insights
· 07:46 The Importance of Vulnerability in Leadership
· 15:52 Navigating Family Systems and Truth
· 25:28 Codependency and Sovereignty in Leadership
· 31:33 Inner and Outer Leadership Dynamics
· 36:41 Emergent Leadership and Consciousness
· 44:11 The ROI of Inner Work for Leaders
· 48:46 Conclusion and Resources
Quotes
· ” I think that in a world of AI and spoken wisdom that's not lived. People can try to close the gap of who they want to be and who they actually are by rhetoric and by tactics, and by complexity.”[03:36]
· ” Most people aren't vulnerable unless they have to be.”[11:40]
· “ And if my sparkler is lit because I'm lit, I have a lit relationship with my wife. I have a healthy relationship with my body. I'm connected spiritually. When I'm in my leadership role, I'm catalytic. I'm spiritually contagious, and it helps to light people's sparklers.’ [45:04]
Websites:
· Instagram: @candorandcoherence