Build a Long-Term Career in Talent
The Talent Tango
What does it take to thrive in talent—even when hiring freezes hit? In this episode, Amir talks with Frank Cebek about building a durable, impactful career in talent acquisition and people leadership. From surviving market downturns to translating business context into recruiting value, Frank shares his journey from consultant to senior people leader—and what skills made all the difference. This one’s packed with practical advice for recruiters, HR leaders, and anyone in people ops navigating today’s volatile job market. 💡 Key Takeaways Business fluency sets you apart. Understand...
info_outline
The Talent Roadmap: Strategy, Stakeholders, and Staying Ahead
The Talent Tango
In this episode, Amir sits down with Ashley Wines from Carta to dig into what it really means for talent teams to be proactive, not reactive. They unpack the need for talent leaders to embed themselves into the business earlier, how to build trust fast, the importance of internal product roadmaps, and how to handle stakeholder dynamics—especially when you're navigating complex matrix organizations. Whether you’re an HRBP, TA leader, or people ops pro, this episode is your blueprint for becoming a strategic talent partner. 🔑 Key Takeaways Embed Early: Talent needs to be in the room...
info_outline
Setting the Stage for Influence as Head of People
The Talent Tango
In this episode, Amir sits down with Michelle King, Head of People and Talent at Notable Health, to break down what it really means to have a strategic relationship with the CEO. From spotting red flags in the interview process to pushing back (with impact) once you're in the seat, Michelle shares lessons from the trenches—no fluff, all substance. This episode is a must-listen for anyone in a people/talent role looking to elevate their business partnership game and hold their own in the executive room. 🔑 Key Takeaways: Start Before You Start: The foundation of a strong CEO relationship...
info_outline
The Candidate Experience Toolkit: Referrals, Follow-Ups & CRM
The Talent Tango
In this episode, Amir Bormand is joined by Kate Esterman, Director of Global Talent Acquisition at Integral Ad Science. Together, they dive deep into the ever-evolving landscape of candidate experience, discussing how market shifts—from candidate-driven to client-driven—impact the way companies engage talent. Kate shares actionable strategies, real-world examples, and her perspective on balancing high-touch human interactions with the scalability of automation, all while maintaining a standout candidate journey. Whether you're scaling your TA team, facing hiring freezes, or juggling...
info_outline
From Math to People Leadership
The Talent Tango
In this episode, we dive into Brittany Rohde’s unconventional journey into the HR and people space. With a background in mathematics and a love for admin, Brittany has successfully navigated the world of people operations, compensation, and leadership. We explore how she transitioned from a math degree into HR, her philosophy on taking opportunities, and why she believes every people team should have an engineering component. Key Takeaways 🔹 Diverse Backgrounds Can Drive Success – Brittany’s transition from math to HR showcases the power of transferable skills and how technical...
info_outline
The Power of Transparency in Hiring
The Talent Tango
In this episode, Amir Bormand is joined by Cory Eustice, a seasoned talent leader, to dive into the importance of transparency in the hiring process. They explore how organizations can improve candidate experiences, hiring outcomes, and long-term retention by fostering open and honest conversations from the very start. Key Takeaways: Transparency in Hiring Matters – Candidates should be given a full, honest picture of the role, the company, and the challenges they might face. Hiring Managers Play a Role – Recruiters must work closely with hiring managers to ensure they openly discuss both...
info_outline
Why Onboarding Matters as Much as Hiring
The Talent Tango
In this episode, Amir sits down with Meg Henry, Head of People & Talent at Companyon Ventures, to explore why onboarding deserves just as much attention as hiring. Meg shares practical insights on structuring an effective onboarding process, ensuring a smooth transition for new hires, and increasing business efficiency through thoughtful onboarding. If you’re in a people or talent leadership role, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways to refine your onboarding strategy. Key Takeaways ✅ Onboarding is often neglected – Companies spend months hiring but little time...
info_outline
Cracking the Code of Talent Playbooks
The Talent Tango
In this episode, we dive deep into Talent Acquisition (TA) playbooks—how recruiting leaders bring their experiences, frameworks, and best practices into new roles, and how they adapt them to different company environments. Henry shares his insights on onboarding into a new company, assessing existing hiring practices, and implementing change management strategies that actually stick. Key Takeaways: 🔹 The Art of the TA Playbook – Bringing structured frameworks from past roles, but adapting them based on company culture and business needs. 🔹 Assess Before You Act – Why it’s crucial...
info_outline
Aligning Talent Strategy with Business Needs
The Talent Tango
In this episode of The Talent Tango, Amir Bormand is joined by Alex Kim, Head of Talent at NewLimit, to discuss the nuances of expectations and requirements in talent acquisition. They dive into how talent professionals can better understand and serve domain experts, establish success criteria, and adapt to the unique challenges of niche and bleeding-edge industries like biotech. Whether you're an early-career recruiter or a seasoned talent leader, this conversation offers invaluable insights into building trust, setting realistic expectations, and aligning talent strategies with business...
info_outline
Community Building & Founder Hiring Pressure
The Talent Tango
In this episode, we dive deep into community building and the hiring challenges founders face with Michelle McHargue. As an early-stage investor, Michelle has a front-row seat to the pressure founders experience when hiring top talent. We explore why founders are so selective, how curated communities can impact hiring, and why hiring at early-stage startups is uniquely difficult. Key Takeaways ✅ Top Talent Is Subjective: Every startup defines “top talent” differently, making hiring a challenge. ✅ Early-Stage Hiring Is Cutthroat: Startups compete for the same small pool of talent,...
info_outlineIn this episode, we dive deep into community building and the hiring challenges founders face with Michelle McHargue. As an early-stage investor, Michelle has a front-row seat to the pressure founders experience when hiring top talent. We explore why founders are so selective, how curated communities can impact hiring, and why hiring at early-stage startups is uniquely difficult.
Key Takeaways
✅ Top Talent Is Subjective: Every startup defines “top talent” differently, making hiring a challenge.
✅ Early-Stage Hiring Is Cutthroat: Startups compete for the same small pool of talent, especially engineers.
✅ Startups Wait for the Right Fit: Unlike larger companies, startups won’t settle—they wait for a “perfect” hire.
✅ Community Building Is a Long Game: Curated talent communities can be an invaluable resource for founders.
✅ Founders Can Be Too Fixated: Many are overly focused on specific skills, limiting their hiring pool.
✅ Hiring Pressure Is Real: Founders juggle hiring with investor expectations, product development, and growth.
✅ Interview Bias Exists: Many hiring processes are designed for a specific type of candidate, unintentionally narrowing the talent pool.
✅ Delegation Matters: Founders often struggle to let go but must delegate hiring to scale effectively.
Timestamped Highlights
⏳ [00:01:24] - Defining "top talent" and why it's subjective at startups.
⏳ [00:02:40] - Why early-stage hiring is more competitive and challenging.
⏳ [00:05:00] - The role of curated talent communities in startup hiring.
⏳ [00:07:28] - Why talent curation is a long game, not a quick fix.
⏳ [00:10:39] - How founders can become too focused on specific skill sets.
⏳ [00:14:10] - Interview biases and why hiring processes can unintentionally exclude great talent.
⏳ [00:17:29] - When founders start to listen and seek hiring advice.
⏳ [00:19:13] - The overwhelming pressure of hiring while managing a startup.
⏳ [00:22:33] - When founders finally start delegating hiring decisions.
Quote of the Episode
💡 “Hiring is so important, but it’s the one thing founders can’t focus on all the time.” – Michelle McHargue
Connect with Michelle McHargue
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellemchargue/
Enjoyed the Episode?
✔️ Subscribe for more insights on hiring, talent, and community building.
✔️ Share with a colleague who would find this valuable!
✔️ Comment with your thoughts—we’d love to hear from you.