EP002: Being Physically, Emotionally, and Mentally Fit in Tech
Release Date: 04/24/2020
The Tony Wong Podcast
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info_outlineToday’s episode is all about being physically, mentally, and emotionally fit in tech. Steve Mescon — former gaming industry professional — now experiments with, invests in, and supports a wide range of performance-enhancing products and companies; he joins the show to talk about optimizing performance.
From stem cells to psychedelics, follow us down the rabbit hole… Welcome to the Tony Wong podcast!
IMPORTANT NOTE: This interview and associated content are in no way an endorsement or recommendation that anyone should do Ketamine, Psilocybin, DMT, or any other illegal drugs — there is nothing you cannot achieve or do on your own through dedicated self-improvement, meditation, or spiritual practices.
Key Takeaways
[:09] Tony introduces today’s guest, Steve Mescon, who spent over 10 years at Riot Games, most recently as the General Manager for North American publishing at Riot Games.
Being a visible person
[4:57] Steve touches on why he agreed to come on the podcast and what skills he is aiming to develop on his journey to becoming a more public-facing person.
30,000 simple tricks!
[7:59] Steve worked his way from 420 to 184 pounds without any medical intervention. He uses a backpack metaphor to explain how he managed this impressive feat, with all of its ups and downs and getting lost in the process.
What is the first trick then?
[12:40] Steve had help from a bit of an OCD personality, but the first trick is to never stop going for your goal. Change the path, the approach, the angle, the tools, and iterate but don’t stop.
Determination and separation
[15:29] Tony speaks of his late Navy Seal mentor as well as what he learned from martial arts in terms of embracing discomfort as part and parcel of any journey that leads to growth.
Fixating is common in tech
[18:00] Ron talks about his own mechanism for achieving long-term life goals — stacking and restacking dominoes — he also touches on how he deals with failures. He does caution that there is such a thing as too goal-driven!
Ron’s dogs chime in on this fixation thing [
20:41] Woof.
Try them all
[21:45] Steve, as a figure of speech, has tried ALL diets… he speaks to what works for him. Calorie counting, low carbs, Keto, Paleo, and finally Whole 30, which was his best all-around feel-good diet but was way too impractical to live in society with.
Tony’s challenge!
[24:17] Peptides, stem cell therapy, Infrared lasers, or 48- or 72-hour fast, the guys will choose one at the end of the episode!
Infrared or roasting?
[25:14] At Ron’s behest, Steve explains what infrared and near-infrared devices are and are purported to do, as well as how their use has personally impacted his life. Tony jumps in with his own experience with autoimmune responses to food and how the use of an infrared sauna has helped him tackle this issue.
(bis) IMPORTANT NOTE: This interview and associated content are in no way an endorsement or recommendation that anyone should do Ketamine, Psilocybin, DMT, or any other illegal drugs — there is nothing you cannot achieve or do on your own through dedicated self-improvement, meditation, or spiritual practices.
Micro... and other dosings
[33:40] Steve talks about how the controlled and less controlled use of psychedelics has helped him broaden his range of personal and social understanding and goals, being more present, having more empathy, opening his mind, etc. — plus, you know, fun! He also speaks to the future of psychedelic use being freer and safer as science works to bridge the knowledge gap previously created by restriction and fear.
Ron was raised to think psychedelics are super scary; he shares the story of when his daughter broke her arm in Hawai’i and how her long-seated depression was staved off when they used Ketamine to set her arm.
Ayahuasca [43:17]
Steve shares a brief summary of his first terrifying, explosive, fast-paced journey with a DMT (N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) breakthrough and the rebuilding the index of self that followed.
Stem cell therapy [49:45]
Steve shares his love story with stem cell therapy and the varied experiences he’s had with them — so far he’s had injections in his wrist, his back, his knee, as well as an infusion of exosomes. The sources for the stem cells have varied from his own fat tissue to exosomes from embryonic tissue.
Ron and Steve talk about the regulatory process that seems to lag behind the research — maybe even too far behind at this point — into biohacking and transhumanism as well as how this research and access can progress within the existing political, ethical and moral parameters.
Wrap up and challenges!
[1:01:36] The discussion turns towards fecal matter transplant and the opportunity for a startup!
Tony’s challenge: peptides (BPC-157).
Steve’s challenge: 48-hour fast, maybe with a few expletives.
Ron’s challenge: peptides.
Thanks for tuning in.
Mentioned in this episode
Books
The Omnivore’s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals, by Michael Pollan
How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us about Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence, by Michael Pollan
More about our guest
Steve Mescon on LinkedIn
Steve Mescon on Twitter
More about your hosts
Podcast: tonywongpodcast.com
Agile Coaching: Agiletony.com
Executive Coaching: Agiletony.com/mental-and-emotional-agility
Twitter: Twitter.com/agile_tony
LinkedIn: Linkedin.com/in/tonywongdigitalonion
Youtube: Youtube.com/channel/UCJyT0C_nrzAZ9GhmOXaSRRw
Co-host Ron Williams on LinkedIn: Linkedin.com/in/ronwilliams