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99. Young Salt at 60: Deborah Hammett on Reinvention, Resilience, and the Freedom of the Sea

What's The Point? - Discover Your Purpose

Release Date: 05/09/2025

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Redefining Retirement, One Wave at a Time
In this episode of What’s the Point?, Bill Ellis welcomes Deborah Hammett, retired educator turned solo sailor and author of Young Salt at 60. After a 30+ year career as an elementary school teacher and principal on Martha’s Vineyard, Deborah did something few would expect—she learned to sail at age 60 and now lives aboard her boat, Maia, navigating the East Coast and The Bahamas.

Deborah’s story is about more than sailing—it’s about reinvention, lifelong learning, and answering the question: what’s next? From her early dreams of changing society through education to navigating the open ocean with no prior experience, Deborah exemplifies the power of purpose-driven pivots later in life.

Episode Highlights & Key Takeaways:

From Classroom to Cockpit: How Deborah transitioned from public education to full-time sailing.
Tears Are Not a Strategy: Lessons in resilience she passed on to students—and learned herself.
Raising Kids and Building Community: Why Martha’s Vineyard became her home and launching point.
Learning to Sail at 60: The hilarious and humbling early days of flipping lasers and falling in the marina.
Solo Sailing as a Lifestyle: How she learned to manage a 36-foot keelboat and navigate weather, tides, and repairs.
Mechanical Mastery: From bilge pumps to solar panels—how Deborah learned the technical side of boat life.
Unlearning Bias: Facing internal biases and gender assumptions as a female captain.
What’s the Point of Retirement?: Why Deborah believes your post-career years can hold just as much growth—and adventure—as the decades before.

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Book: Young Salt at 60 (available wherever books are sold)

Quick Episode Summary:

0:00 Welcome and intro to Deborah Hammett’s unique journey
1:00 What inspired her to take up sailing at 60
3:00 Reflecting on three decades as a teacher and principal
6:00 Life on Martha’s Vineyard and how the ocean called to her
10:00 Family, independence, and growing up with grit
12:00 Teaching kids confidence, curiosity, and how to fail forward
14:00 Challenges with the teacher’s union and burnout at the end of her career
18:00 “Believe in Yourself”: The message her former students still remember
20:00 Life after retirement—travel, divorce, and the courage to start over
24:00 Discovering sailing and falling (literally) into a new life on the water
29:00 Buying Maia, learning the ropes, and sailing solo
32:00 Navigating weather windows and the unpredictability of boat life
34:00 Writing Young Salt at 60 to inspire others to take bold steps
35:00 Why staying active and learning new things keeps you young
38:00 The steepest learning curve: understanding mechanics and repairs
41:00 Self-discovery through travel—and confronting her own biases
43:00 Her answer to “What’s the Point?”: Use your post-career years for something big

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