"CAN'T STOP": The Critical Difference Between Addiction and Dependence - Episode 89
Release Date: 03/14/2025
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info_outlineIn this powerful episode, Christopher Doyle and Daniel Klein explore the critical distinction between addiction and dependence. Through personal stories and professional insights, they unpack how addiction fundamentally means "can't stop" - a completely different experience from dependence.
The conversation examines nuances of pain medication use, environmental factors, and why families often struggle to recognize true addiction. Klein shares vulnerable stories from his own journey while Doyle offers clinical perspectives from his extensive experience, creating a comprehensive guide for anyone trying to understand if their loved one is experiencing addiction, dependence, a phase, or simply a bad habit.
Highlights
- The overlooked "brake system" that 90% of substance users have – and why 10% are racing toward disaster without one
- Why the most dangerous phrase a parent can utter is "it's just a phase" – and the hidden warning signs most families completely miss until it's too late
- The bizarre Vietnam heroin phenomenon that shattered addiction myths – and what it reveals about your loved one's struggles
- The startling 5-minute conversation test that exposes whether you're dealing with addiction or dependence (warning: most therapists get this wrong)
- Why "pep talks" and "tough love" produce miracles for some users – and catastrophic failure for others
- The heartbreaking "tomorrow trap" that keeps addicted people believing they can quit for 365+ consecutive days – while family members waste precious time and resources
- How distinguishing between "can't stop" and "can stop" could literally save your loved one's life – and why getting this wrong leads to years of unnecessary suffering
Discover why everything you thought you knew about addiction might be wrong – and the surprisingly simple focus shift that could finally break through to your struggling loved one.
Links and Resources from this Episode
- https://whyintervention.com/
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- https://www.instagram.com/whyintervention/
- https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/a-landmark-study-in-the-origins-of-alcoholism/563372/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9DcIMGxMs
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