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From Invisible Hand to Heavy Hand: Government Stakes, AI, and the Shifting CapEx Cycle in U.S. Markets | EP197 09/17/2025

From Invisible Hand to Heavy Hand: Government Stakes, AI, and the Shifting CapEx Cycle in U.S. Markets | EP197 In this episode, U.S. Equity Portfolio Manager Grayson Witcher explores the evolving intersection of government policy, innovation, and capital expenditure (CapEx) in U.S. markets. The discussion unpacks how public spending and strategic government stakes—especially in sectors like semiconductors and defense—are reshaping the investment landscape. Grayson reflects on the unique blend of complacency and optimism in today’s markets, the uncertain returns on massive AI-driven CapEx, and the importance of management quality and adaptability in navigating this new era. Key highlights: U.S. markets are experiencing a rare surge in capital spending, driven by AI, reshoring, defense, and infrastructure—marking a departure from decades of just-in-time, low-investment environments. The U.S. government’s direct stakes in companies like Intel signal a move toward more strategic, state-influenced capitalism, reminiscent of crisis or wartime interventions but now focused on critical industries. Despite significant investment, most companies have yet to realize meaningful returns from generative AI. The market’s optimism may be outpacing actual productivity gains, raising questions about long-term ROI. The team seeks diversified exposure to transformative themes (e.g., AI, automation) without betting on single winners, emphasizing companies with adaptable management and clear execution plans. Rising CapEx, persistent inflation drivers, and government intervention create both risks and opportunities. The focus remains on businesses resilient to macro shifts and capable of thriving across scenarios. This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Host: Rob Campbell, CFA– Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Grayson Witcher, CFA, AB – Portfolio Manager Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/38243595

Convergence and Complacency: Today's Credit Markets | EP 196 08/27/2025

Convergence and Complacency: Today's Credit Markets | EP 196 Brian Carney, lead portfolio manager of the global credit opportunities strategy, explores the current credit market environment characterized by tight spreads and low defaults despite global uncertainties. He discusses the concept of "convergence and complacency"—where large pools of capital chase lower-quality borrowers while markets overlook serious warning signs including political pressure on central banks and hidden leverage. The conversation covers key crisis indicators, the weakening of credit covenants over the past decade, and the risks associated with private credit. He outlines the portfolio’s defensive positioning with high-quality, short-duration securities and highlights Saturn Oil and Gas as an example of selective opportunities that still favor lenders. He concludes with insights on how AI is enhancing the investment process while emphasizing that technology cannot replace the importance of human relationships in credit analysis. Key Takeaways: • How the Global Credit team approaches today's tight spread environment by focusing on capital preservation rather than reaching for yield, positioning for future market dislocations when opportunities will emerge. • The key early warning indicators to monitor for potential credit market stress, including hedge fund liquidations, counterparty credit reductions, and central bank intervention patterns. • The reality behind private credit's popularity: —understanding whether the additional ~200 basis points over public high yield adequately compensates for illiquidity, reduced transparency, and higher fees. • The critical importance of credit covenant analysis in the investment process, and how the shift toward borrower-friendly terms over the past decade has reduced lender protections. • The rationale behind the Saturn Oil and Gas investment, highlighting how disciplined management, forced deleveraging through quarterly bond buybacks, and attractive spreads create value in a challenging market. • How AI technology is being integrated to enhance the investment process through improved issuer triage and covenant comparison, while maintaining the essential human relationships that drive successful credit investing. This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Host: Kevin Minas, CFA - Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Brian Carney, CIM – Portfolio Manager Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/ /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/37967750

From Inventory to Innovation: Canadian Small Caps in Focus | EP 195 08/06/2025

Back to the Future: Global Equity | EP 194 07/30/2025

Quarterly Update | Q2 2025 | EP 193 07/10/2025

Quarterly Update | Q2 2025 | EP 193 In this episode Canadian bond portfolio manager, Crista Caughlin, and balanced portfolio manager, Steven Visscher discuss Q2’s market and economic activity. Topics covered include “Liberation Day's” tariff shocks, central bank policies, inflation, and other themes. Key Takeaways: The announcement and subsequent deferral of sweeping U.S. tariffs caused significant market volatility, with a sharp initial selloff followed by a rapid recovery. The uncertainty around trade policy had a pronounced impact on economic growth expectations and market sentiment. The quarter featured slowing growth in both the U.S. and Canada, with notable weakness in consumer spending and business investment. Despite expectations, inflation remained contained, and employment data presented a mixed picture—stronger in the U.S., weaker in Canada. Central banks responded differently to domestic economic conditions. The ECB cut rates twice due to weaker growth and contained inflation, while the Fed and Bank of Canada adopted a wait-and-see approach, maintaining a dovish bias but holding rates steady. There was a notable reversal in equity performance trends, with international and emerging market equities outperforming U.S. equities. This—among other factors—raised questions about the potential end of U.S. exceptionalism, though we remain cautious against drawing premature conclusions. Credit spreads tightened to multi-decade lows, reflecting either investor confidence or complacency. Interest rates remained range-bound despite volatility, and the structural shift to higher neutral rates appears to have already occurred in recent years. Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA – Institutional Portfolio Manager Guests: Crista Caughlin, CFA – Portfolio Manager Steven Visscher, CFA – Portfolio Manager This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/37354220

Customizing the Last Mile: AI, Innovation, and Mawer’s Tech Evolution | EP 192 06/25/2025

Customizing the Last Mile: AI, Innovation, and Mawer’s Tech Evolution | EP 192 In this episode, Justin Anderson, Mawer’s Chief Technology Officer, sits down to discuss the evolving “build-in vs. build-out” technology framework. Justin explains how Mawer approaches technology decisions—balancing vendor solutions with in-house customization—and shares practical examples from the firm, including proprietary solutions such as trade&MAWER and M42. The conversation explores how advances in AI and large language models are accelerating the shift toward more tailored, efficient solutions. He also offers insights for investors on what to look for in management teams as organizations adapt to rapid technological change. Key Takeaways: The “build-in vs. build-out” framework focuses on how companies customize technology for their unique needs, beyond simply buying or building from scratch. Advances in AI and large language models are making it easier and more cost-effective to develop in-house solutions. Mawer’s internal platforms, such as trade&MAWER and M42, demonstrate the benefits of a build-out approach. Leadership and culture are critical—successful organizations encourage experimentation, embrace new technology, and balance innovation with risk management. Investors should look for companies whose management teams understand technology, address technical debt, and foster a culture of curiosity and adaptability. Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Justin Anderson, CFA, MSc, Chief Technology Officer This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/37140700

Energy, Gold, and Growth: Current Insights on Canadian Markets | EP 191 06/11/2025

Finding Hidden Gems in Emerging Markets | EP 190 06/04/2025

Navigating Uncertainty: Global Small Caps, Process Innovation, and AI at Mawer | EP189 05/22/2025

The Long View: Global Equity Positioning in Uncertain Markets | EP188 04/30/2025

The Long View: Global Equity Positioning in Uncertain Markets | EP188 In this episode, global equity co-manager, Manar Hassan-Agha, examines how tariff policies have created uncertainty for businesses, particularly impacting capital deployment decisions and supply chains. Manar explains how a focus on asset-light, service-oriented businesses with recurring revenue provides resilience during volatile periods, with limited direct exposure to tariff-vulnerable exports. Through specific company examples like Admiral Group, UnitedHealth, and a beauty products business, he illustrates how the team evaluates short-term price movements versus long-term intrinsic value, emphasizing the importance of disciplined position sizing and maintaining a balanced, diversified portfolio across geographies and market caps during uncertain times. Recent tariff policies have created uncertainty for businesses, affecting capital deployment decisions and generating both direct impacts and second-order effects on consumer spending The Global Equity Portfolio has limited direct exposure to tariff-vulnerable exports, with a preference for asset-light, service-oriented businesses with recurring revenue Short-term price movements often contain significant randomness, highlighting the importance of focusing on long-term business fundamentals rather than reacting to news flow Market volatility can create investment opportunities, particularly in companies with temporarily impacted profitability but intact long-term earnings power Maintaining portfolio balance and diversification across quality factors, valuations, geographies and market caps remains essential during uncertain times Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Manar Hassan-Agha, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/36374485

Investment Opportunities in a Changing Military Landscape | EP187 04/23/2025

Investment Opportunities in a Changing Military Landscape | EP187 In this episode, we discuss the defense industry's evolution with equity analyst Joshua Samuel. He highlights the historical underinvestment in European defense, the recent increase in defense spending, particularly Germany's program, and the strategic importance of land systems. The conversation highlights how the current geopolitical environment has transformed defense from an underperforming sector to an investment opportunity, though valuations for companies like Rheinmetall now reflect much of this potential. Key Takeaways: Historical Underinvestment: European military spending dropped dramatically from 2.75% of GDP during the Cold War to approximately 1.3% over the last decade. This resulted in significant inventory reduction (77% fewer tanks, 57% fewer aircraft) and industry consolidation. Germany's Leadership: Germany's substantial defense spending package has garnered attention, though not all European countries have the same fiscal capacity to increase military budgets at the same rate. Supply Chain Constraints: Decades of underinvestment created production bottlenecks that can't be solved quickly. Companies like Rheinmetall, which maintained investment during lean periods, are well-positioned with superior production technology and cost structures. Investment Perspective: European defense companies offer potentially higher growth opportunities than U.S. counterparts due to the lower baseline of European defense spending and greater headroom for increases. Companies with established platforms typically present lower investment risk than those developing new technologies. Strategic Autonomy: With the U.S. potentially reducing its global security role, European nations are recognizing the need for self-sufficiency in defense capabilities to protect their interests and sovereignty. Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Director, Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Joshua Samuel, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/ /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/36270015

Finding Silver Linings: International Investing Through Trade Policy Turbulence | EP186 04/16/2025

Finding Silver Linings: International Investing Through Trade Policy Turbulence | EP186 In this episode, portfolio manager, Peter Lampert discusses international equities and the impact of tariffs on portfolio management. He provides insights into how his team has been preparing for potential tariffs since Trump's campaign, explaining that most of their international portfolio companies have limited export exposure to the U.S. and instead operate primarily in domestic markets across various regions. He highlights their strategic decision to exit positions that are heavily dependent on global trade, while maintaining confidence in businesses with resilient management teams capable of navigating economic uncertainty. He also shares personal strategies for maintaining a clear head during market volatility and points out some underappreciated silver linings amid tariff concerns. Key points from this episode: How the international equity team prepared for tariff risks during Trump's campaign, viewing market reactions in February as too benign given potential economic impacts. Many companies in their international portfolio have minimal direct exposure to U.S. tariffs, with many operating domestic U.S. businesses or serving their local markets, like Compass (UK-based catering company with 60% US revenue). The importance of emotional discipline, especially during market volatility, and having a team structure that promotes rational decision-making. Potential silver linings that may have been overlooked by markets, including Europe's increased investment in defense and infrastructure, and China's opportunity to shift toward more domestic consumption. Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Peter Lampert, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/36182965

Quarterly Update | Q1 2025 | EP185 04/10/2025

Quarterly Update | Q1 2025 | EP185 In this Quarterly episode, Crista Caughlin, lead portfolio manager for Canadian bonds, and Jeff Mo, lead portfolio manager for U.S. midcaps, discuss market performance through Q1 2025 and the significant volatility that followed in early Q2—particularly after "Liberation Day" when the Trump administration imposed sweeping tariffs, followed by retaliation from other countries, and then a partial pause. The discussion explores how these trade tensions have created uncertainty affecting business confidence, consumer spending, and investment decisions. Crista explains that the growth outlook has worsened due to this uncertainty, regardless of whether tariffs ultimately reach 10%, 25% or are delayed. Both emphasize the team’s investment approach during this volatility relies on maintaining a disciplined process, avoiding "hero trades," and carefully modeling potential impacts on individual companies. Key points from this episode: The Trump administration initiated significant trade tensions in early Q2 2025 with "Liberation Day" and the imposition of sweeping tariffs, followed by retaliatory actions from other countries, causing major market volatility before some tariffs were paused on April 9th (except those on China, which remain at 125%). Even before the full implementation of tariffs, business confidence and consumer spending were negatively impacted by uncertainty, with examples of furloughed workers, delayed investments, and cautious spending behaviors from both the private sector and government employees. Central banks are in a difficult "wait and see" position regarding interest rates as they cannot fully overcome the effects of a trade war but will try to help economies adjust while monitoring whether tariff-induced inflation becomes structurally embedded. The asset mix committee has maintained a neutral position in equities throughout the volatility, with a slight shift from U.S. equities toward international markets (particularly Europe) to benefit from potential structural tailwinds. The investment team emphasizes maintaining adherence to a disciplined process during market turbulence. Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA, Institutional Portfolio Manager Guests: Crista Caughlin, CFA, Portfolio Manager Jeff Mo, CFA, Portfolio Manager This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/36089385

Market Update: April 8, 2025 | EP184 04/08/2025

When Tariff Waves Crash: Maintaining Course in Volatile Markets | EP183 04/04/2025

U.S. Equity Insights: The Impact of Policy Shifts and AI | EP182 03/26/2025

U.S. Equity Insights: The Impact of Policy Shifts and AI | EP182 In this episode, we discuss the early months of the new U.S. administration with Grayson Witcher, lead portfolio manager for the U.S. equity strategy at Mawer. Grayson touches on the impact of tariffs, including the practical and unpredictable aspects of tariffs and how they influence decision-making. Grayson also shares insights on the potential long-term effects of the AI boom and highlights recent portfolio adjustments in response to evolving market dynamics. Key Takeaways: The market initially surged post-election but has since reversed, with the S&P 500 dropping below election day levels. Policy shifts have hit sectors like pharma, defense, and life sciences. Volatility is rising, inflation concerns persist, and consumer caution is growing. [00:01:34] The current investment approach focuses on avoiding industries most exposed to tariffs, such as autos, agriculture, and luxury exports. Short-term risks include inflation and declining consumer confidence, while long-term consequences are harder to predict. Tariffs may push foreign competitors to innovate and expand globally. [00:07:01] When thinking about the impact of AI on the market, the U.S. equity team focuses on identifying at-risk industries and long-term beneficiaries. Instead of betting on specific AI technologies, they invest in broader themes. [00:15:45] While the portfolio remains largely stable, they have made minor changes due to advances in AI and current market volatility, exiting companies due to the anticipated impact AI will have on them. [00:17:33] As global tensions rise and deglobalization trends continue, demand for enhanced border security and cargo inspection is increasing. A recent portfolio addition is OSI Systems, a security screening company specializing in cargo, airport, and venue security. [00:21:25] Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/35860210

Credit Markets: Risks, Rewards, and the Road Ahead | EP181 03/12/2025

Credit Markets: Risks, Rewards, and the Road Ahead | EP181 In this episode, we discuss credit markets with Brian Carney, lead portfolio manager of the Mawer Global Credit Opportunities strategy. Brian touches on the tightening of credit spreads, risks in the leveraged loan market, and the limited compensation for high-yield bonds relative to their risks. He also reviews concerns about U.S. government credit quality, private credit profitability, and corporate policy shifts. Looking back on Mawer's GCO strategy performance in 2024, Brian highlights future plans for growth, process refinement, and team expansion. Key Takeaways: Credit spreads are tightening across all markets, benefiting investors but reducing risk premiums. U.S.-centric policies support domestic companies, yet lenders may not share in the gains. Brian recommends investors avoid chasing yield in lower-quality or long-duration bonds. Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs) drive the $1.2 trillion leveraged loan market, with issuance surging in 2024. This leverage-heavy, opaque market raises concerns about risk-taking. If dislocation occurs, leveraged loans could suffer alongside high-yield bonds, making it a key area for monitoring. High-yield bonds offer 7% returns, but history shows adding even 25% to a portfolio can significantly increase downside risk. With only a 0.6% incremental yield benefit today, investors aren’t adequately compensated for the risk, making caution more prudent than yield chasing. Concerns include the U.S. government's credit quality, private credit’s profitability favoring managers over investors, and ensuring portfolio companies maintain long-term stability despite short-term policy shifts. Monitoring these factors closely remains a priority. Future plans for Mawer’s GCO strategy include expanding individual and institutional adoption, refining processes, leveraging technology, and selectively growing the team. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/35643470

A “Balanced” Perspective Amid High Uncertainty | EP180 02/26/2025

A “Balanced” Perspective Amid High Uncertainty | EP180 In this episode, balanced portfolio manager, Steven Visscher, covers 2024 performance, asset allocation decisions, trade uncertainty, potential tariffs, and AI-driven productivity growth. Above all, he emphasizes long-term discipline, diversification, and avoiding emotional investment decisions in an unpredictable market environment. Key Takeaways: The balanced portfolio saw strong absolute returns in 2024, with all asset classes performing well. Despite early economic concerns, inflation eased without a recession. Relative performance lagged benchmarks, causing some disappointment. The portfolio maintained a neutral 60% equity target in 2024, trimming gains to manage risk. A key structural shift was introducing a 3% allocation to U.S. mid-caps, enhancing diversification and improving valuation metrics by targeting medium-sized companies with long-term growth potential. Tariffs and policy shifts are monitored but not pre-positioned for in asset allocation due to their unpredictability. Instead, adjustments occur at the security level, reallocating capital to businesses more resilient to potential trade impacts while managing risk within the portfolio. The impact of trade and tariffs on global growth, currency volatility, and policy responses, with heightened uncertainty in 2025. A potential productivity boom is emerging, driven by political shifts favoring deregulation and the broader integration of AI beyond tech giants into operational efficiency. In the face of uncertainty, staying diversified and committed to a long-term strategy is key. Avoid emotional decisions, resist short-term speculation, and trust in a disciplined approach that has proven effective over time despite market fluctuations. Keep perspective and stay the course. Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Steven Visscher, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager, Balanced Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/35430540

Navigating Tariff Tensions in Canada: Risks and Opportunities | EP179 02/13/2025

Navigating Tariff Tensions in Canada: Risks and Opportunities | EP179 In this episode, we discuss the escalation of U.S./Canada tariff tensions with Mark Rutherford, co-manager of Mawer’s Canadian equity strategy. Mark provides historical context of how we got here; highlights the potential economic impact tariffs may have on the Canadian economy; provides specific portfolio holding examples of how businesses and industries may be affected; and mentions several potential benefits for Canada. Ultimately, he stresses that adhering to a disciplined, long-term investment approach is vital amid uncertainty. Key Takeaways: In the U.S., manufacturing’s decline has driven trade and financial deficits, exacerbated by a strong dollar. Tariffs aim to correct these imbalances. Being diversified and adjusting portfolio positioning from a bottom-up and scenario planning lens is key amidst uncertainty. Tariffs could cause a potential Canadian recession, a weaker dollar, and lower interest rates. The team is monitoring U.S. dollar strength, risk havens, and possible global currency interventions while assessing the broader economic impact of tariffs on prices and growth On the flip side, Canada could benefit from reduced internal trade barriers, increased infrastructure and energy projects, and greater political will to attract capital—potentially driving long-term economic growth, job creation, and higher tax revenues. For now, the recommendation is to focus on “prepare don’t predict,” maintain discipline amid market swings, avoid rash decisions, monitor exposures, and seek long-term opportunities. Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Mark Rutherford, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. -- Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/35275695

Quarterly Update | Q4 2024 | EP178 01/21/2025

Quarterly Update | Q4 2024 | EP178 In this episode, we discuss 2024's economic landscape and what to expect in 2025, with Crista Caughlin, lead portfolio manager of the Mawer Canadian bond strategy. Crista highlights U.S. and Canadian growth trends, central bank rate adjustments, housing market dynamics, equity and fixed-income performance, and political uncertainties. She also discusses Mawer’s asset allocation strategy, balancing risks with opportunities amidst shifting fiscal policies, trade tensions, and global economic developments heading into 2025. Key Takeaways: The year 2024 saw resilient U.S. growth despite headwinds, while Canada faced weaker growth and higher unemployment. Q4 showed modest improvements in Canadian growth and employment, but inflation trends potentially shifted upward in both regions late in the year. In 2024, the Bank of Canada aggressively eased rates, cutting 175 basis points, responding to weaker growth and target-level inflation. The Fed eased more gradually, cutting 100 basis points, as robust U.S. growth supported higher rates. Both central banks aimed to shift from restrictive to less restrictive policies. Political changes in Canada and the U.S. have created uncertainty for fiscal policies and trade dynamics. Tariffs pose risks to Canadian growth and inflation. Central banks remain cautious, awaiting policy clarity while navigating trade and economic interdependencies. The Canadian housing market faces reduced pressure due to Bank of Canada rate cuts and proactive bank measures like extended amortization. However, 2025's higher mortgage renewals at elevated rates pose ongoing risks to household spending and economic growth. Equity markets posted strong 2024 returns, driven by a stronger U.S. dollar, AI growth, and financial sector strength. Fixed-income returns were flat in Q4 but solid annually, with tightening spreads and rising Canadian 10-year rates prompting a defensive portfolio stance. The asset mix committee maintained a neutral equity stance, underweight bonds, and overweight cash in 2024, balancing hard landing concerns with market momentum. Key 2025 themes include fiscal policy uncertainty, global deficits, higher neutral rates, and opportunistic portfolio adjustments to enhance diversification. Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Crista Caughlin, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager, Fixed Income For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. -- Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - / mawer-investment-management Instagram - / /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/34930535

Canadian Equity: 2024 Overview and Looking Ahead to 2025 | EP177 01/15/2025

Canadian Equity: 2024 Overview and Looking Ahead to 2025 | EP177 In this episode we discuss the Canadian equity market with Mark Rutherford, co-manager of Mawer’s Canadian equity strategy. Mark highlights the key drivers behind Canadian equities' strong 2024 performance, highlighting standout sectors like technology, financials, energy midstream, and gold. He also examines challenges in telecommunications and real estate, discusses risks from slower economic growth, inflation, and higher mortgage rates, and emphasizes strategic portfolio adjustments. Key Takeaways: Canadian equities excelled in 2024, driven by strong performance in technology, financials, energy midstream, and gold companies. Elevated valuations now prompt focus on sustainable growth and identifying new opportunities. In 2024, banks benefited from moderated loan growth, margin expansion, cost controls, and strong wealth management and capital markets earnings. Canadian insurance companies transitioned to stable earnings through improved product mixes, rational competition, and capital efficiency. Industries facing challenges or weaknesses in Canada include telecommunications (regulatory pricing pressures, rising competition, and higher refinancing costs) and real estate (expensive debt refinancing, softer industrial demand, and slower rent growth). Looking ahead to 2025, key risks for Canada include slower economic growth, inflation-driven policy shifts, a weakening Canadian dollar, and higher mortgage refinancing rates. To maintain strong portfolio performance, the focus will be on recycling capital into undervalued opportunities, prioritizing bottom-up analysis, and consistently selecting companies with strong fundamentals, aligned management, and reasonable valuations. Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Mark Rutherford, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - / Instagram - / /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/34857610

Why Invest Outside of the U.S.? The Benefits of EAFE Large Cap | EP176 12/23/2024

Why Invest Outside of the U.S.? The Benefits of EAFE Large Cap | EP176 In this episode, we discuss Mawer’s EAFE large cap portfolio with Ian Turnbull, an equity analyst at Mawer. Ian explores the portfolio's diversification benefits, offering exposure to resilient, high-quality companies in 21 markets such as the Nordics, Switzerland, and Singapore. The team targets proven companies with strong moats and global leadership. Key holdings include Wolters Kluwer, BAE, and Chugai. AI's potential in healthcare R&D is highlighted, though regulatory hurdles persist. The team emphasizes balancing risks, leveraging themes like pharma innovation, defense, electrification, and AI, and addressing geopolitical uncertainties for a resilient, long-term portfolio. Key Takeaways: • The EAFE Large Cap portfolio provides diversification, mitigating risks like U.S. concentration and valuation fragility. It offers compelling opportunities in smaller, well-performing countries like the Nordics, Switzerland, and Singapore. The team’s bottom-up approach targets high-quality companies, emphasizing resilience and long-term potential across 21 diverse markets. • Mawer defines large cap as the top two-thirds of the MSCI EAFE Index ($11B market cap), favoring proven, resilient companies with established moats, economies of scale, and global leadership, tested through cycles and challenges. • Highlighting a few key holdings, Wolters Kluwer’s successful shift from print to digital boosted recurring revenue, customer stickiness, and margin expansion, with AI enhancing value creation and growth. • Another top holding, BAE, benefits from stable government funding and high capital returns. With new management and growing defense spending, it offers strong growth potential, especially in Europe, amid rising geopolitical tensions. • Chugai, a top holding in Japan, was once a distributor for Roche but has evolved into a key R&D engine, developing successful treatments like Hemlibra. Its GLP-1 partnership with Eli Lilly offers strong upside potential. • AI in healthcare R&D promises faster drug discovery, optimizing early-stage processes and reducing costs, benefiting companies with strong R&D cultures while still facing regulatory limits in clinical stages. Valuation in pharma is complex, especially with competition in GLP-1s. • The EAFE Large Cap team focuses on creating a resilient portfolio by balancing risks, seeking contradictions between holdings, and ensuring exposure to key themes like pharma innovation, defense, electrification, and AI, while monitoring geopolitical risks and tariffs. Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Ian Turnbull, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst For more details and full transcript visit: https://mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/podcast This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/34558345

Maintaining an All-Weather Strategy: The U.S. Mid Cap Equity Landscape | EP175 12/13/2024

Maintaining an All-Weather Strategy: The U.S. Mid Cap Equity Landscape | EP175 In this episode, we discuss the U.S. mid-cap landscape with Jeff Mo, manager of the U.S. mid cap equity strategy at Mawer. Jeff touches on risk management, emphasizing disciplined adherence to investment philosophy and the benefits of balancing risk and return through natural contradictions, like pairing discretionary consumer-focused SharkNinja with countercyclical firms such as FTI Consulting. Additional topics include preemptive risk management, maintaining an all-weather portfolio, and leveraging a robust inventory process to adapt. Key Takeaways: In a hot market, risk management means resisting the temptation to chase speculative trends or high-growth fads without competitive advantages. Instead, it requires disciplined adherence to an investment philosophy—prioritizing quality businesses with strong fundamentals and sustainable value. Purposeful diversification includes inherent contradictions, ensuring steady wealth creation across interest rate cycles by balancing companies benefiting from both low- and high-rate environments. Despite recent market volatility and election-related uncertainties, the focus remains on maintaining an all-weather strategy. The team continues to evaluate companies based on fundamentals and earnings, with no drastic portfolio adjustments needed during this time. Inventory is crucial for risk management, providing a range of high-quality, pre-analyzed options. Mawer’s extensive, multi-stage inventory process ensures quick access to companies with competitive advantages, allowing for strategic, timely decisions based on evolving market conditions. To illustrate natural contradiction, Jeff shares details on specific holdings. SharkNinja's competitive edge lies in its rapid product development, allowing market share growth despite its consumer discretionary risks. To balance, the portfolio includes companies like FTI Consulting and CACI, which thrive in different market conditions, providing stability through natural contradictions. Host: Rob Campbell, CFA Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Jeff Mo, CFA Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/34423725

Opportunities and Watchpoints: A Deep Dive into Global Credit | EP174 12/03/2024

Opportunities and Watchpoints: A Deep Dive into Global Credit | EP174 In this episode, we discuss key trends and positioning in credit markets with Brian Carney, lead portfolio manager of the Mawer global credit opportunities strategy. We touch on the year’s strong performance driven by tighter spreads, higher yields, and emerging risks such as low risk premiums and the U.S. election. Topics include corporate issuance, fallen angels, and public-private credit convergence. Emphasizing capital preservation, Brian highlights portfolio positioning in high-quality, short-duration securities, such as North American bank bonds, while avoiding high-yield exposure. Key Takeaways: Credit markets have performed well this year, driven by tighter spreads and higher benchmark yields, but risk premiums are historically low. Brian suggests investors prioritize capital preservation over chasing yield, avoiding high-yield bonds and long-dated credit. Post-U.S. election, vigilance is key amid potential policy-driven market shifts. Trends in the past quarter include fallen angels, commercial real estate risks, and potential high-yield defaults. An actively managed, absolute return credit strategy offers diversification, income, and potential capital appreciation while protecting against adverse credit and interest rate moves. It’s ideal for long-term investors seeking alternatives to passive strategies and opportunities in volatile or distorted markets. Brian recommends investors view absolute return credit as a long-term allocation, not for market timing. Market dislocations are brief, and panic often prevents opportunistic moves. Mawer’s portfolio is managed bottom-up, focusing on individual credit assessments to mitigate risk and seize opportunities. It prioritizes short-duration, high-quality holdings, avoids high yield, and ensures diversification with a maximum issuer cap of 10%, balancing downside risk and concentrated positions. Optimism abounds for long-term credit opportunities and future discussions on continued progress. Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Brian Carney, CIM Mawer Portfolio Manager, Fixed Income For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. -- Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - / mawer-investment-management Instagram - / /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/34263195

The “S&P 493”: Managing Risks and Opportunities in the Global Equity Strategy | EP173 11/28/2024

The “S&P 493”: Managing Risks and Opportunities in the Global Equity Strategy | EP173 In this episode, we discuss the global equity strategy with Christian Deckart, chief investment officer and portfolio manager at Mawer. Christian stresses managing absolute risk over relative risk for better long-term outcomes and details Mawer’s approach to risk management, focusing on decision-making, portfolio risks, and external factors such as government debt and rising rates. He also discusses adapting to AI trends, preferring companies leveraging AI applications over infrastructure investments. He emphasizes maintaining focus on fundamentals amid evolving global and technological landscapes. Key Takeaways: Effective risk management begins with a sound decision-making culture, clear accountability, and thorough evaluation of securities, portfolios, and systemic exposures to avoid unintended biases. Market and portfolio vulnerabilities include rising government debt, interest rate shocks, hidden real estate losses, over-specialized economies, and investor psychology driven by greed and fear. Disciplined risk management and avoiding overreliance or shortsighted behaviors in markets are important keys to success. While AI and semiconductor stocks dominate attention, there are overlooked opportunities in the broader U.S. market, diverse, underappreciated companies that meet rigorous criteria at attractive valuations. Christian highlights investments with potential to leverage AI applications for competitive advantage and long-term profitability beyond initial AI infrastructure trends. While the global equity strategy's absolute performance in 2024 is strong, relative performance lags the benchmark due to its different composition, particularly the focus on stable, "boring" businesses versus high-growth sectors like AI infrastructure. Christian attributes the global equity strategy's underperformance to its broader diversification compared to the benchmark, with a larger focus on stable, recurring businesses and less emphasis on high-growth sectors like AI, particularly in the U.S. market. Host Name and title: Rob Campbell, CFA Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest names and titles: Christian Deckart, CFA, PhD Director, Chief Investment Officer, Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. -- Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - / mawer-investment-management Instagram - / /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/34193220

Navigating Market Complexities: Insights from the Trading Desk | EP172 11/26/2024

Navigating Market Complexities: Insights from the Trading Desk | EP172 In this episode, we discuss market insights with two representatives from the trading desk: Rita Tien, who trades the Americas from Toronto, and Peter Dmytruk, who trades Asia from Singapore. Rita and Peter highlight the complexities of trading, emphasizing the importance of regional differences and the role of the trading desk in executing investment decisions. They discuss the impact of the Japanese carry trade, the shift to T+1 settlement cycles in the U.S. and Canada, and the influence of ETFs and retail investors on market volatility. They also touch on the role of multi-strategy hedge funds and the challenges of managing market risks. The conversation underscores the need for long-term investment strategies and the importance of understanding market structures and dynamics. Key Takeaways: The trading desk plays a critical role in executing investment decisions effectively, navigating market nuances and regional differences. Market events like U.S. elections and Fed rate decisions significantly impact markets, requiring traders to discern meaningful signals from noise. While short-term volatility is challenging, the focus remains on executing trades aligned with long-term strategies. The Japanese carry trade impacts markets, influencing businesses and structured products. Sudden market moves, like Japan's interest rate hike, highlight the importance of communication to assess potential impacts on investment theses. In the U.S. and Canada, the shift to T+1 settlement reduces settlement risk and margin requirements by accelerating fund transfers but adds complexity for global trades due to mismatched settlement cycles. Market volatility is influenced by zero-day options, high-frequency trading, retail investor activity, and leveraged ETFs. Retail-driven markets such as India, Korea, and Taiwan showcase momentum-driven dynamics, while recent SEC rules aim to protect retail investors and improve liquidity access for institutional players. ETFs significantly influence market dynamics, concentrating liquidity and volume, especially during closing auctions, where up to 20% of daily trading occurs. This impacts trade timing, crowding in top-weighted stocks, and creates potential price distortions affecting subsequent trading days. Multi-strategy hedge funds, or "pod shops," drive market overcrowding by leveraging similar strategies, such as M&A arbitrage or index rebalancing. This amplifies market risks, creates volatility during downturns, and provides opportunities for disciplined long-term investors amid rapid shifts. Crowded, momentum-driven trades fueled by leverage and quantitative models can create challenges for disciplined investors, though opportunities arise in volatility. Balancing exposure to popular names with underappreciated companies can mitigate risks while benefiting from structural market inefficiencies. Host Name and title: Rob Campbell, CFA Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest names and titles: Peter Dmytruk, CFA, P. Eng. Trader Rita Tien Equity Trader For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. -- Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - / mawer-investment-management Instagram - / /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/34163495

Banks Around the World: What Makes Top Financial Institutions Stand Out | EP171 11/06/2024

Banks Around the World: What Makes Top Financial Institutions Stand Out | EP171 In this episode, Mawer portfolio managers and analysts discuss what they fundamentally look for in a bank as an investment. Specifically, how they view banks and the industry trends, as well as local dynamics, and ultimately what makes each of these businesses both unique and attractive. David Ragan discusses Scandinavian banks, highlighting Handelsbanken's smart lending and DNB's stability. Josh Samuel analyzes DBS in Singapore, emphasizing its low cost of funds and high ROE. Grayson Witcher focuses on J.P. Morgan in the U.S., noting its strong management and unique financial assets, while Alex Romaines examines First Citizens Bank in the U.S., which capitalized on market turmoil. Mark Rutherford covers Canadian banks, noting their conservative strategies and high ROE. Siying Li discusses HDFC Bank in India, and Asim Hussain explores Mitsubishi UFJ in Japan, emphasizing their unique upward-sloping yield curve. Key Takeaways: The ideal bank investment is stable, lends to reliable clients, and operates in a rational, well-regulated market. Diversification in lending, funding, and economic exposure helps prevent insolvency and builds resilience, crucial in a highly leveraged industry. The Scandinavian banking environment is stable and well-regulated, with rational competition and prudent lending. Banks like Sweden's Handelsbanken and Norway's DNB provide consistent returns, low loan losses, and steady growth, supported by smaller, consolidated markets and strong economic stability. DBS in Singapore sustains strong net interest margins and 15–16% ROE. Strong management boosts investor returns through higher payouts, reducing risks from limited growth in foreign markets. U.S. banks face intense competition with little brand differentiation, often competing on interest rates alone. While experienced in managing risk, they are vulnerable in recessions. Banks trade at lower valuations than other sectors due to weaker competitive advantage. J.P. Morgan stands out in the U.S. market due to its strong management, high returns, low leverage, and strategic acquisitions during downturns. It diversifies through unique assets, investment banking, and asset management, enhancing resilience. The U.S. banking industry is fragmented and competitive, with a history of crises. Fragility creates opportunities for well-managed banks trading below intrinsic value. Canadian banks are highly consolidated and operate with a leveraged model, lending and raising equity. They now generate significant revenue from wealth management and insurance, reducing dependence on loan spreads. Strong regulatory relationships foster stability, with banks earning attractive returns while supporting economic growth. HDFC Bank, India’s largest private bank, has strong management and benefits from a growing economy. With low non-performing loans and high ROE, it continues gaining market share from public sector banks, despite short-term challenges from its recent acquisition. Mitsubishi UFJ, Japan's largest bank, has a rich history and significant market share. With an upward-sloping yield curve and a focus on digitalization, it stands to benefit from rising interest rates, driving potential profit growth despite past challenges in the Japanese banking sector. Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guests: David Ragan, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager, Joshua Samuel, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst, Grayson Witcher, CFA, AB Mawer Portfolio Manager, Alex Romaines, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst, Mark Rutherford, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager, Siying, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst, Asim Hussain, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - / mawer-investment-management Instagram - / /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/33820350

China in Focus: Traversing the Emerging Markets Landscape | EP170 10/23/2024

China in Focus: Traversing the Emerging Markets Landscape | EP170 In this episode, Peter Lampert, lead portfolio manager of the International Equity Strategy, discusses the recent Chinese stimulus and its effects on emerging markets. He highlights key long-term risks in China, including weak sentiment, regulatory challenges, and geopolitical tensions, while emphasizing the potential of companies like Tencent and Tencent Music. The conversation also covers Turkey's Bim, a discount retailer thriving amid economic uncertainty. Peter explains how the portfolio's success stems from stock selection, especially with stealth performers like Vietnam’s FPT and Taiwan’s IGS, and the importance of balancing macro risks with company-specific growth potential. Key Takeaways: •China's recent stimulus signals a shift from restrictive policies to boosting economic growth, leveraging the U.S. Fed's easing cycle to inject liquidity and stabilize the economy. •The stimulus could mitigate three key challenges: weak consumer sentiment, regulatory uncertainty, and geopolitical risks. While long-term issues persist, the focus on growth reduces the likelihood of worst-case scenarios in the near term. •Macro factors and bottom-up analysis are deeply intertwined in portfolio decisions. As risks shift, so do portfolio positions. •Higher macro risks in China lead to applying higher discount rates and requiring better ROI. Growth projections for economically sensitive companies are adjusted lower due to structural challenges, leading to exits when valuations no longer meet the stricter risk criteria. •Companies with independent growth drivers can perform well despite China's economic challenges, as they are less reliant on the broader economy and can thrive even in a weaker market environment. •One example is Tencent, whose strong management, dominant WeChat position, and conservative monetization approach offer growth opportunities. Despite China's economic challenges, Tencent can pull monetization levers, making its valuation attractive amid broader pessimism. •This year’s strong performance of the emerging markets portfolio has been driven by careful stock selection, focusing on lesser-known "stealth performers" like FPT, IGS, and Aegis Logistics, which consistently generate shareholder value. •Peter highlighted one such performer: Bim, a Turkish discount retailer. Bim has thrived despite economic challenges. With Turkey's economic outlook improving, Bim is positioned for long-term success as it continues to offer value to consumers. Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Peter Lampert, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/33588827

Looking Past the Pitfalls: Focusing on Managing Risk in the Balanced Portfolio | EP169 10/17/2024

Looking Past the Pitfalls: Focusing on Managing Risk in the Balanced Portfolio | EP169 In this episode, Steven Visscher, lead manager of the balanced strategies, discusses the impact of rising interest rates and inflation on the balanced portfolio in recent years, Mawer’s disciplined and collaborative approach to portfolio construction, and the importance of having a long-term perspective. He spoke about recent changes and additions to the balanced portfolio and provided an update on the performance of the balanced portfolio thus far in 2024. Key Takeaways: Over the last four years, interest rates and inflation have had the most significant impact on the capital markets and the performance of the balanced strategies. Following a surge of inflation in 2022, central banks aggressively hiked rates, which led to the first meaningful loss in a balanced strategy since 2008. After being called into question in 2022, 60/40 portfolios bounced back in 2023 and 2024 following positive fixed income returns, helping support the overall balanced strategy. So far, the market recovery has been led by a narrow subset of businesses, most notably technology companies that are part of the euphoria around artificial intelligence (AI). These companies have experienced extraordinary returns and lifted benchmarks to new heights. However, some of the Mawer balanced strategies weren't heavily exposed to those industries and have continued to trail their benchmarks on a relative basis. Steven and his team think in a probabilistic way meaning that they are intellectually open to the fact that there are many scenarios that could unfold, and they want to have a certain amount of resilience regardless of the scenario. The neutral stance of the balanced portfolio reflects the uncertainty of the current environment. The team’s base case scenario is that a recession may unfold over the next six to 12 months. A small portion of capital from the U.S. equity strategy, which is more heavily biased toward larger U.S. businesses, has been shifted to a fairly new asset class, the U.S. mid-cap segment due to a valuation gap. From a balanced perspective, the goal isn't to eliminate risk; it's to manage it. Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Steven Visscher, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/33492967

Quarterly Update | Q3 2024 | EP168 10/15/2024

Quarterly Update | Q3 2024 | EP168 Portfolio Manager Crista Caughlin discusses the economy and factors that drove markets in the third quarter of 2024. Key points from this episode: In the third quarter, most central banks either continued cutting rates – like the European Central Bank and the Bank of Canada – or started cutting rates – like the U.S. Federal Reserve. Inflation risks have diminished and downside risks to growth and employment have increased, so central banks are responding with easier policy. Crista believes the Bank of Canada will continue to make 25 basis point cuts at future meetings, but a 50-basis point cut is potentially on the table thanks to the Fed’s more aggressive cut. Because central banks are easing policy and the market expects them to continue to do so, the yield curve has started to normalize. All else equal, a faster, more aggressive central bank reduces the probability of a recession. The third quarter was a Goldilocks scenario. Growth was weak enough to allow central banks to ease policy, which is really good for bonds and interest-rate-sensitive equity sectors, but it was not so weak that there were obvious signs of a recession. Regardless of whether central bank easing corresponded to a recession or a soft landing, equities have historically gone higher and spreads tighter after the first central bank cut. One of the main questions on Crista’s mind going into the fourth quarter: How long will growth and policy be tailwinds driving the markets? Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Crista Caughlin, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at . Follow us on social: LinkedIn - Instagram - /episode/index/show/artofboring/id/33472967

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