Better Learning Podcast

The Better Learning Podcast combines education and entertainment in a fresh, engaging format where guests share their favorite school-related movies. Host Kevin Stoller leads dynamic conversations, exploring memorable scenes, iconic characters, and timeless lessons through award-style categories like “The John Keating Award” for standout teachers and “Realistic or Ridiculous?” to dissect school life portrayals. With humor, analysis, and reflection, each episode celebrates the fun, flaws, and impact of these films while sparking nostalgia and insights. Whether you’re an educator, student, or movie buff, join us to relive the movies that shaped how we see school life, and share your favorites at betterlearningpodcast.com. The Better Learning Podcast is hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve and author of Creating Better Learning Environments. The podcast is also associated with other organizations that are focused on improving education including the Education Leaders’ Organization (ELO) and the Second Class Foundation.

Shaping Lifelong Learning for Students with Dr. Greg Taranto 04/08/2026

Shaping Lifelong Learning for Students with Dr. Greg Taranto What if the spaces we design for children today could shape how they learn for a lifetime? In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Dr. Greg Taranto, Superintendent of Canon-McMillan School District, to explore what happens when a growing district seizes the opportunity to reimagine elementary education. From an unexpected career pivot out of cardiac rehab to leading one of Pennsylvania's fastest-growing districts, Greg shares how Canon-McMillan is building more than a new school—they're building capacity for full-day kindergarten, balanced classrooms, and a future where every child feels like they belong. Takeaways: Growth is an opportunity, not just a challenge: When your district is expanding rapidly, use construction projects to solve multiple problems at once—new capacity, balanced class sizes, and the launch of full-day kindergarten across the entire district Full-day kindergarten must look different than first grade: The extra time isn't about adding more academics—it's about structured play, developmentally appropriate practice, and giving interventions a head start before gaps widen Large buildings can still feel small: A "school within a school" neighborhood model ensures that even in a thousand-student facility, every child is known by name and every teacher is part of a tight-knit team Invest in teachers because they're "in the game": Administrators support from the sidelines, but teachers are the ones with students every day—involve them from day one on design, furniture, and classroom layout decisions Fiscal transparency builds community trust: When you show stakeholders exactly how much you've saved, how much you're borrowing, and what the long-term plan looks like, they see the value—especially once they can walk through the finished building Get kids outside and off screens: The research is clear—sunshine, movement, and unstructured play stimulate learning neurons. Outdoor learning spaces aren't a luxury; they're essential to how Canon-McMillan thinks about child development About Dr. Greg Taranto: Dr. Greg Taranto is a visionary and results-driven educational leader with extensive experience in K–12 administration, currently serving as Superintendent of the Canon-McMillan School District since July 2024. His 27 year career in education includes roles as Assistant to the Superintendent, Middle School Principal, Assistant Principal, Teacher and Coach. He is also an Adjunct Faculty member at Pennwest University, teaching in Superintendent & Principal Leadership Programs since January 2012. Dr. Taranto has received numerous accolades, including Pennsylvania Principal of the Year (2012), Outstanding Research Publication Award (2012), and the Frank S. Manchester Journalism Award (2013). He has an extensive list of publications and professional presentations covering topics such as structured literacy, social media, leadership, and educational initiatives. Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 310 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40570015

Putting Kids at the Center of Every Decision with Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar 04/01/2026

Putting Kids at the Center of Every Decision with Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar What happens when you realize education has never really been designed for students? In this episode, Jeff Kubiak and Carla Cummins sit down with Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar, Superintendent of Desert Sands Unified School District in La Quinta, California. With 34 schools and 27,000 students, Dr. May-Vollmar has built a district culture rooted in student voice, community trust, and relentless accessibility. From volunteering as an art teacher in her daughter's first grade classroom to leading a $675 million bond measure, her journey reflects a simple but radical belief: students deserve a seat at the table. Takeaways: Student voice isn't optional—it's the foundation: From superintendent advisory panels to climate surveys with open-ended questions, Desert Sands builds systems that actively solicit and act on student input—because kids know what authentic work looks like and when adults aren't being transparent Trust is built through consistent presence: Attending every PTO and booster meeting, hosting "Coffee with Kelly" events, and sitting in staff lounges during lunch aren't PR tactics—they're how you understand what your community actually needs Eliminate barriers, not just friction: Borrowed from the Savannah Bananas' "fans first" philosophy, the district's "students first" framework has staff asking themselves in real time: "Are we creating a barrier? We can't do that." Alignment isn't top-down—it's everywhere: Board priorities (academic proficiency, future focus, warm and welcoming environments) cascade through every division, every professional development session, and get reported on quarterly with defined metrics About Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar: Kelly May-Vollmar, Ed.D. is the proud Superintendent for Desert Sands Unified School District (DSUSD), serving approximately 27,000 students. Throughout her over 20 years in education Dr. May-Vollmar has held many different roles and served in numerous capacities. Dr. May-Vollmar has served on the CoSN Digital Equity Educator Advisory Panel and is the co-chair of the National Chief Technology Officer Council and the AASA/CoSN Empowered Superintendent's Advisory Committee. She is currently a CoSN Board Member. In 2026 Dr. May-Vollmar was named a Superintendent to Watch by the National School Public Relations Association and in 2025 she was named one of the top 100 Innovators in Education by District Administration. In 2024 Dr. May-Vollmar was honored to receive the DALI Women of Distinction Award and the CalSPRA Superintendent to Watch award. Kelly was also awarded the CA CITE Educational Leader of the Year award in 2019 and the Association of CA School Administrators State Technology Administrator of the year in 2019. She is passionate about bridging the divide that often exists between curriculum and technology departments as well as bridging the digital divide for all students. To this end she is thrilled to have led her district to launch their own LTE Network to address the digital divide and to be awarded the CoSN Digital Equity Award in 2021. Linkedin: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 309 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40654480

Designing Schools That Last For Generations with David Schrader 03/25/2026

Designing Schools That Last For Generations with David Schrader What if the buildings we design for learning could shape communities for generations? In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with David Schrader, Principal at Schrader Group (now part of Cord Coplan Macht), to explore what it truly means to design schools that serve as community centers. From an unlikely start designing correctional facilities to walking through Alcatraz with drooped shoulders, David shares how he found his calling in academic design—and why he believes every school should feel like a town green surrounded by spaces where learning happens. Takeaways: Start with the learner, not the line item: When districts lead with conversations about students and learning processes rather than dollars and timelines, you know you're stepping into something transformative True partnership means going on the journey together: The best projects span years—sometimes decades—of relationship building, surviving multiple boards and administrations while staying rooted in community values Flexibility isn't a buzzword—it's a warehouse mentality: Build simple structural bays where walls can move; combine that with modern furniture, and you've created adaptable environments the fifties never imagined Watch how industry thinks about space: The most forward-thinking work environments drip down through higher ed into K-12—and ideally, should start in pre-K and lift with learners throughout their journey The best buildings are community centers that happen to teach: Twenty years from now, success isn't about the design holding up—it's whether the building still feels like the heart of its community Design for timelessness, not trends: Avoid the puke-green glazed tile of one era or the split-face block and standing seam roofs of another—build something that can't be pinpointed to a decade About David Schrader: Principal, Academic Programmer, Planner, and Designer For 35 years, David’s professional experience has been focused on the design of next generation educational facilities. David acts as Principal-in-Charge and leads the design team throughout the project duration to develop and execute design solutions that achieve all client goals. His ability to create a vision with his clients has fostered significant success for all involved including the client, the design team and the public-at-large. “Partnership in design is key to creating a better designed environment for each client.” Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 308 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40569680

Teamwork Makes the Dream Work with Erica Thompson 03/18/2026

Teamwork Makes the Dream Work with Erica Thompson What if a school could rebuild not just itself, but the community's trust and identity? In this episode, Carla Cummins and Nick Marmolejo sit down with Erica Thompson, Business Development professional at Wells Building Systems, to explore how schools serve as the heartbeat of their communities. From her unexpected journey through accounting and Colorado's early marijuana industry to becoming a passionate advocate for K-12 construction, Erica shares how building schools is about far more than bricks and mortar—it's about creating spaces where students discover who they are. Drawing from her work across Colorado's diverse communities, Erica reveals how the built environment shapes student identity, why schools are "networking machines," and how one Denver neighborhood fought to reclaim their closed high school—and won. Takeaways: Teamwork makes the dream work: Radically student-centered design means shifting from "me" to "we"—creating environments where students learn to build their teams and cultivate lifelong relationships Schools are networking machines: Beyond academics, schools create micro-communities—band kids, athletes, robotics crews—where students form identities and connections that last decades Research the community, not just the building: Understanding demographics, attending town halls, and reading master plans reveals what each unique community truly needs from their school Strategic, not sacrifice: When budgets tighten, stay rooted in your district's mission—make strategic decisions rather than compromising what students deserve Measure success by who comes back: When Montbello High School reopened after a decade, 1,100 of 1,200 freshman seats filled immediately—proof that communities will invest in spaces that invest in them Design for generations: Today's students become tomorrow's parents and grandparents—build schools that honor the past while serving futures you'll never see About Erica Thompson: My career began with an ambitious plan to become a nuclear engineer, which quickly pivoted (after an honest math check) to accounting. I earned my CPA license at 22 and began auditing small to mid-sized banks during the very exciting years of 2007 to 2014. That experience led me into the emerging medical marijuana industry, where I helped companies create GAAP-compliant accounting practices in a world needing it. Reconciling cash without banks was as unconventional as it sounds, and it taught me adaptability, creativity, resilience, and humor. While entrepreneurship sparked my interest in sales, it was construction manufacturing that truly shaped my career. I entered the industry as a Sales Representative at General Shale, where I helped amplify regional brick sales and adopted my guiding motto: Teamwork Makes the Dream Work. Under the mentorship of Mark Stutz and later Jared Rabin at Rio Grande, I learned the power of solution-based selling. Shifting from providing products to solving real problems. These mentorships taught me to build long- term, developmental relationships, one of which ultimately led me to Wells. Today, I serve in Business Development at Wells, where I focus on connecting with end users to gather insights, identify market opportunities, and support strategic growth. Surrounded by strong leadership, including Dan Parker, I’ve found my professional home. This role naturally led me to A4LE and a passion for learning environment spaces that do far more than house education; they anchor communities, shape generations, and serve as points of connection. I highlight leadership throughout my story because my journey has never been just about “me”. It’s a collective we. None of this happens alone. Teamwork Makes the Dream Work. LinkedIn - Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 307 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40422445

How School Architecture Shapes Student Futures with Jesse Miller 03/11/2026

How School Architecture Shapes Student Futures with Jesse Miller What if the buildings we design for students could shape not just how they learn, but who they become? In this episode, Jeff Kubiak and Carla Cummins sit down with Jesse Miller, Managing Senior Principal at PBK Architects, to explore how K-12 architecture can transform education from the ground up. From designing Compton High School alongside Dr. Dre to creating spaces where students don't want to leave, Jesse reveals how thoughtful design decisions today can impact generations of learners for the next century. Drawing from over two decades designing schools across California, Nevada, and Texas, Jesse shares how truly radically student-centered environments are built through vision, community input, and asking one essential question: will this make a student's daily experience better? Takeaways: Design for a hundred years, not today: Schools must outlast current pedagogy—ask what education looks like 70 years from now, not just what works in 2026 Every square foot matters: From corridor nooks to bathroom design, if a student will experience it, it deserves intentional thought Put learning on display: Create environments where students can "shop their future" by seeing what peers are creating and achieving across campus Include every voice: Teacher workshops reveal current needs, but student workshops unlock what's truly possible—get both perspectives before a single line is drawn Flip the script on control: Traditional schools were optimized for managing students; radically student-centered schools support how they learn, move, collaborate, and belong Measure success by who stays: When kids don't want to leave campus at 9 PM, you've designed something right When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design About Jesse Miller: With over twenty two plus years of expertise in architectural design and sustainable solutions, I currently serve as Managing Senior Principal at PBK overseeing the West Region, where I contribute to innovative and sustainable civic and education projects. I currently lead over 260 design and engineering professionals committed to elevating our clients places and spaces into environments beyond imagination. My previous leadership role as Regional Sector Leader for DLR Group allowed me to drive impactful design strategies in the California K-12 sector, leveraging my skills in design research and sustainable architecture. Certified as an architect by the California Architects Board and holding credentials as a LEED Green Associate and DBIA professional, I am dedicated to fostering collaborative environments that prioritize sustainability and innovation in educational spaces. My mission is to create designs that inspire learning and positively impact communities. Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 306 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40354985

How Informal Learning Spaces Are Changing the Way Kids Learn with Anne Fullenkamp 03/04/2026

How Informal Learning Spaces Are Changing the Way Kids Learn with Anne Fullenkamp What if your school building wasn't just a place where learning happens, but one of the most powerful teachers in the room? In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Anne Fullenkamp, Senior Director of Creative Experiences at the Children's Museum of Pittsburgh, to explore how thoughtfully designed spaces can spark curiosity, boost confidence, and expand what students believe is possible. From hallways that invite discovery to classrooms that adapt to every learner, Anne reveals how architecture can quietly shape mindsets, behaviors, and futures. Drawing from her accidental journey from practicing architect to museum exhibit designer—where she's spent nearly two decades living alongside her own designs—Anne shares how truly student-centered environments are built through empathy, collaboration, and treating schools like the laboratories they can be. Takeaways: Buildings as learning tools: Design schools that actively participate in learning, not just house it—every wall, hallway, and corner can tell a story Start with "what if": Center design charrettes on how spaces will look and feel, not just how many seats you need Remove barriers to curiosity: Create environments where teachers can respond in the moment without calling facilities for a work order Make movement matter: Balance gross motor and fine motor experiences throughout the day—even the hallways can serve learning Design for adaptability: Treat schools like museums—plan for environments to evolve with changing pedagogy and technology over 50+ years Budget smarter, not bigger: You don't need massive investments to start—make small bets, experiment with a corner or underused classroom first When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design About Anne Fullenkamp: Anne Fullenkamp, Associate AIA, LEED AP, Senior Director of Creative Experiences, Children’s Museum of Pittsburgh With more than 25 years of experience in the museum design and architectural fields, Anne is responsible for design and execution of museum experiences at the Children’s Museum of Pittsburgh. In her role as Senior Director of Creative Experiences, she oversees the Museum’s permanent exhibits and collections, artist residencies, traveling exhibit program, design consulting and other business development programs, leading complex design teams consisting of artists, scientists and researchers. Since joining the Museum of Pittsburgh in 2006, Anne has served as lead designer, contributing to the on-going development of the Museum's Play with Real Stuff design philosophy for informal learning environments that advocates for authenticity in all museum experiences. In addition, she is leading the Museum’s universal design initiative, working with cultural organizations in Pittsburgh to advise on best practices for update the physical amenities to help make the city a hub for accessibility in the arts. As part of this work, she was part of the team to coordinate the implementation of Universal Design practices on the Museum campus, that resulted in MuseumLab, a major capital project on campus, receiving isUD certification from the University at Buffalo, School of Architecture and Planning’s Center for Inclusive Design and Environmental Access (IDEA Center). Anne is the point person for ongoing research with the IDEA Center in the application of universal design principles on our campus. Likewise, she has received training from in the IDEA Center in the practice of universal design and continues to pursue continuing education opportunities in the discipline. In recent years, Anne’s work in inclusive design practices has expanded to include her design consulting work with K-12 schools. As part of the Museum’s vision to transform education, Anne serves as an experience consultant for school districts, teachers and architects to help maximize the informal learning opportunities within the formal school environment, focusing specifically on the convergence of social-emotional learning and STEAM curriculum with overall health and wellbeing of the school community. Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 305 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40303535

Making Opportunities Visible Through Design with Susan Morgan 02/25/2026

Making Opportunities Visible Through Design with Susan Morgan What if your school building wasn’t just a place where learning happens, but one of the most powerful teachers in the room? In this episode, Jessica sits down with Susan Morgan to explore how thoughtfully designed spaces can spark curiosity, boost confidence, and expand what students believe is possible. From hallways that invite discovery to classrooms that adapt to every learner, Susan reveals how architecture can quietly shape mindsets, behaviors, and futures. Drawing from her own journey where she helped design her Montessori school as a child to leading innovative projects across the country, Susan shares how truly student-centered environments are built through empathy, collaboration, and bold “what if” thinking. Takeaways: Buildings as learning tools: Design schools that actively participate in learning, not just house it Start with "what if": Invite all stakeholders to reimagine possibilities before focusing on constraints Remove barriers to curiosity: Create environments that support natural learning instincts rather than limiting them Make opportunities visible: Use spatial connections so students are exposed to disciplines they might not otherwise discover Design for adaptability: Treat schools like museums—plan for environments to evolve with changing pedagogy and technology When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 304 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40094690

The Power of Community-Centered Design with Courtney Ter-Velde 02/18/2026

The Power of Community-Centered Design with Courtney Ter-Velde In this episode, Carla Cummins and Jessica Westerduin speak with Courtney Ter-Velde, K-12 Project Manager and Interior Design Specialist at LaBella Associates, about radically student-centered design in educational spaces. Courtney shares her unique journey from musical theater performer and sociology major to interior designer specializing in K-12 education. She discusses her passion for working with smaller rural districts where design impact resonates deeply throughout the community, including a playground project that transformed a district that hadn't seen updates in 30 years. The conversation explores how schools can be spaces where students find safety, develop trust, and discover their sense of self—going far beyond just improving educational outcomes. Courtney also reflects on the balance between technology and traditional learning methods, noting research supporting pen-and-paper learning alongside digital tools. Takeaways: Schools shape more than academics: Design spaces where students can find safety, build trust, and develop their sense of self Support educators too: Create environments that empower teachers to focus on their vital work Ask deeper questions: Build trust with stakeholders to move beyond surface-level conversations about storage and into meaningful dialogue Every project deserves full attention: Budget size doesn't determine the level of care—smaller districts often see the biggest community-wide impact Balance technology thoughtfully: Integrate digital tools while respecting research on pen-and-paper learning and diverse learning styles People are our greatest resource: Collaborate across disciplines—designers, manufacturers, educators—to create truly successful spaces About Courtney Ter-Velde: Courtney Ter Velde, NYS CID, is K–12 Project Manager and Interior Design Specialist and in the Architecture Division at LaBella Associates, in their Rochester, NY location. A graduate of Rochester Institute of Technology with over thirteen years of industry experience, she specializes in educational programming, space planning, standardization, visualization, and evidence-based design that supports social-emotional learning, wellness, and equity. Courtney is an Accredited Learning Environment Planner (ALEP) and LEED Green Associate, bringing expertise in educational visioning, community engagement, pre-design planning, and sustainable, student-centered environments. She currently supports multiple school districts across the western NY region, guiding projects from pre-referendum through construction, including capital improvement initiatives focused on safety, accessibility, technology integration, and flexible, future-ready learning spaces. A recognized leader and advocate for educational design, Courtney is a former New York Chapter President and current Northeast Region President-Elect of the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE), where she advances interdisciplinary collaboration and industry engagement. She serves on the Monroe 2 BOCES Student Foundation Board, mentors students through the IIDA Explorer Program, and contributes to professional discourse through conference presentations and publications. Through her design work, leadership, and community involvement, Courtney is dedicated to creating healthy, inclusive, and inspiring environments that elevate learning and positively impact the next generation. LinkedIn - Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 303 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/40109935

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'Billy Madison' with Brian Schoch, Katelyn Forcucci and Kevin Stoller 12/31/2025

'Billy Madison' with Brian Schoch, Katelyn Forcucci and Kevin Stoller In Adam Sandler’s Billy Madison, an immature heir’s journey back through grade school becomes a wild, comedic exploration of learning, privilege, and the power of second chances. As Billy stumbles from kindergarten to high school, the film asks: what does it really mean to grow up, and how do our experiences in school shape who we become? And for educators, how can humor, humility, and a willingness to start over help us connect with students—and ourselves—on a deeper level? Through Billy’s misadventures, the eccentric cast of teachers and classmates, and the absurd challenges he faces, we see the importance of perseverance, the value of community, and the unexpected lessons that come from embracing failure. The movie reminds us that transformation—whether in a classroom, a school, or a person—often begins with a willingness to be vulnerable, to laugh at ourselves, and to try again. On this first-ever live audience recording of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller is joined by Brian Schoch and Katelyn Forcucci, along with responses and insights from multiple audience members. Together, they explore what Billy Madison reveals about education, leadership, and the messy, joyful process of learning at any age. Takeaways: Growth in education isn’t always linear—sometimes it takes a few detours, mistakes, and a sense of humor to get where we need to go. Privilege and opportunity can shape our educational journeys, but real learning requires humility, effort, and support from others. Teachers and classmates play a crucial role in helping us overcome setbacks and discover our strengths. Embracing failure and starting over can lead to deeper understanding, resilience, and empathy. Laughter and playfulness can break down barriers, build community, and make learning more meaningful for everyone. The live audience’s questions and reflections add fresh perspectives, reminding us that learning is a shared, ongoing adventure. Join us for this lively episode as we blend comedy, education, and real-time audience energy to uncover the lessons hidden in Billy Madison’s outrageous return to school. Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 300 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/39398315