Better Learning Podcast

The Better Learning Podcast combines education and entertainment in a fresh, engaging format where guests share their favorite school-related movies. Host Kevin Stoller leads dynamic conversations, exploring memorable scenes, iconic characters, and timeless lessons through award-style categories like “The John Keating Award” for standout teachers and “Realistic or Ridiculous?” to dissect school life portrayals. With humor, analysis, and reflection, each episode celebrates the fun, flaws, and impact of these films while sparking nostalgia and insights. Whether you’re an educator, student, or movie buff, join us to relive the movies that shaped how we see school life, and share your favorites at betterlearningpodcast.com. The Better Learning Podcast is hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve and author of Creating Better Learning Environments. The podcast is also associated with other organizations that are focused on improving education including the Education Leaders’ Organization (ELO) and the Second Class Foundation.

'Metal Lords' with Peter Sharma and Kevin Stoller 09/03/2025

'Metal Lords' with Peter Sharma and Kevin Stoller Sometimes the best lessons don’t come from textbooks or classrooms... they come from the stories we see on screen. In Metal Lords, a coming-of-age Netflix film, two high school outsiders form a heavy metal band in hopes of competing in the “Battle of the Bands.” What starts as a quest to play loud music quickly turns into a journey of self-discovery, belonging, and resilience. So how does a movie about teens rocking out connect to education? At its core, Metal Lords highlights what we talk about so often on the Better Learning Podcast: that schools are not just about content, but about creating spaces where students can express themselves, collaborate, and feel valued. The characters in the film struggle with identity, acceptance, and confidence — the same challenges many of our students face every day. When schools provide flexible environments and opportunities for students to pursue their passions, they’re not just teaching academics, they’re helping students discover their voice. In our podcast, we often ask school leaders, educators, and designers: What should students feel when they walk into a learning space? Metal Lords gives us one answer: students should feel like they belong. Whether through music, art, or academics, the best school experiences help students connect with something bigger than themselves. And maybe that’s the real message for all of us in education: sometimes the path to “better learning” starts when we let students turn up the volume on who they really are. Takeaways: Connection and acceptance are critical for motivation. When students feel seen and valued, they’re more likely to take risks and fully engage in learning. The power of teamwork in the movie mirrors what happens in classrooms: collaborative projects help students develop creativity, problem-solving, and communication skills. Just as the concert venues and rehearsal spaces impact the band’s journey, school design and classroom setup can support or hinder student engagement and creativity—a core idea we explore on the Better Learning Podcast. About Peter Sharma: Peter Sharma is a senior sustainability consultant and Carbon Lead for Stantec’s Education sector, where he champions holistic sustainability, embodied carbon reduction, and health and wellbeing in learning environments. With over a decade of experience in the building industry —including numerous K-12 projects—Peter brings a deep understanding of how sustainable design can shape healthier, more inspiring spaces for students and educators alike. Peter is driven by a deep commitment to leaving behind a healthier, more resilient world for his daughter and future generations. He believes that thoughtful design must serve both people and the planet, and that true sustainability is built through collaboration—creating learning environments that uplift communities, foster connection, and stand the test of time. A recognized leader in the building industry, he was honored with the Emerging Green Leader award by the Alberta chapter of Canada Green Building Council (CAGBC) in 2018 for his commitment to advocating, educating, and practicing green buildings. Peter joins the podcast to explore how sustainability and wellbeing aren’t just about buildings—they’re about the people inside them, and the bold ideas that can rock the system. Learn More About Peter Sharma: LinkedIn: Learn More About Stantec: Website: LinkedIn: Facebook: Twitter: Instagram: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 246 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/38078140

'The Great Debaters' with Jeff Johnson and Kevin Stoller 08/20/2025

'The Great Debaters' with Jeff Johnson and Kevin Stoller Released in 2007 and inspired by true events, The Great Debaters tells the story of Wiley College’s debate team in the 1930s, led by Professor Melvin B. Tolson. At a time when segregation and systemic injustice were defining forces, this small but determined team rose to national prominence, even going head-to-head with Harvard University. More than a story about competition, the film highlights the role education plays in empowerment, resilience, and giving students the courage to use their voice. We dive into the plot and memorable moments, then run through a series of award-style categories that let us talk about teachers, iconic scenes, and even one-liners. And of course, we wrap up with the big question: what real-world lessons can educators, leaders, and communities take from the movie? Takeaways: Professor Tolson shows how a teacher or mentor can push students beyond their perceived limits, instill belief, and prepare them for opportunities they may never have imagined possible. Winning debates required the team to challenge, support, and trust each other. Education at its best fosters collaboration, preparing students for the challenges of the real world. About Jeff Johnson: Jeff Johnson brings over 30 years of experience in Pre-K–12 and Higher Education design, serving as a trusted voice in shaping impactful learning environments. His expertise spans referendum planning, educational programming, design, project management, and construction administration. As Director of Educational Planning at PBK Architects, Jeff leads with a deep commitment to understanding each district’s mission and vision. He collaborates closely with stakeholders to develop next-generation learning environments that are innovative, functional, and community-focused. From concept through construction, Jeff ensures that every project aligns with both educational goals and budget realities. Learn More About PBK Architects: Website: LinkedIn: Facebook: Twitter: Instagram: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 245 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37895380

'Miracle' with Bryan Benway and Kevin Stoller 08/06/2025

'Miracle' with Bryan Benway and Kevin Stoller What does it take to bring out the best in a group of individuals and transform them into something greater than the sum of their parts? In this episode of our school-related movie review series, we dive into Miracle (2004), the powerful retelling of the 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team's unbelievable upset over the Soviet Union. It’s a story of vision, discipline, belief, and building a culture of excellence—all themes that deeply resonate in the world of education today. Joining us for this conversation is Bryan Benway, someone who brings a unique and dynamic perspective to the table. Bryan grew up near Lake Placid, the very town where this historic miracle on ice took place. He spent years as a hockey broadcaster in the Central Hockey League and now serves as Director of Marketing at Bartlett Cocke General Contractors—one of the most respected education-focused construction firms in Texas. But before transitioning into construction, Bryan spent several impactful years in public education as the Director of Communications for Boerne ISD, where his leadership earned the district nearly 50 statewide awards. With a career that has spanned storytelling, school communications, sports broadcasting, and educational construction, Bryan is the perfect guest to help us explore the parallels between Miracle and the everyday work of school leaders and educators. From coaching a team to believe in themselves, to navigating doubt, adversity, and pressure with resilience—Miracle is more than just a sports film. It’s a reflection of what great educational leadership looks like: setting a clear vision, building trust, and pushing students and teams to achieve more than they ever thought possible. Takeaways: Coach Herb Brooks wasn’t looking for the best players—he was looking for the right ones. In schools, it's not always about the top-performing individuals, but about how the team works together to support every student. Brooks had a bold and unconventional vision, and he never wavered from it. Strong educational leaders similarly need to set a clear direction, especially when leading change or overcoming obstacles. The infamous “Again!” scene shows how accountability and pushing through discomfort can prepare teams for real-world pressure. In classrooms and school systems, structure and consistent expectations help students and staff thrive. Brooks told his players, “Great moments are born from great opportunity.” Educators create those moments every day—when they believe in students, when they champion a struggling learner, or when they stand up for what’s right. The miracle happened in Lake Placid—a town with deep personal roots for our guest, Bryan Benway. It’s a reminder that the spaces we create (in schools, stadiums, or communities) can hold meaning and inspire greatness when people feel connected to them. About Bryan Benway: Bryan Benway brings nearly 20 years of award-winning experience in communications to his role as Director of Marketing at Bartlett Cocke General Contractors. Since joining the company in October 2024, he has led the Marketing Department to earn the SMPS San Antonio People’s Choice Award for the 2024 holiday card design. Prior to Bartlett Cocke, Bryan served as Director of Communications for Boerne ISD, where his leadership earned the district nearly 50 awards from the Texas School Public Relations Association (TSPRA). His individual accolades include being named a 2020 Hill Country 40 Under 40 honoree by the Economic Development Corporation and receiving the Schreiner University Rising Star Award in 2016. Bryan’s diverse background also includes serving as District Director for Texas State Representative Kyle Biedermann and as a National Host for Yahoo! Sports Radio, where he hosted a nightly talk show broadcast on more than 800 stations nationwide, including SiriusXM. Learn More About Bryan Benway: LinkedIn: Learn More About Bartlett Cocke General Contractors: Website: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 244 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37708880

'Rich Hill' with Dr. Julie Williams and Kevin Stoller 07/31/2025

'Rich Hill' with Dr. Julie Williams and Kevin Stoller What happens when the challenges students face outside the classroom overshadow everything happening within it? In this episode of our school-focused movie review series, we dive into Rich Hill—the 2014 Sundance Grand Jury Prize-winning documentary that offers an unfiltered look into the lives of three teenage boys growing up in rural Missouri. The film captures the challenges they face in poverty-stricken homes, unstable environments, and a school system struggling to support them. Joining us to break down the themes and realities of Rich Hill is a special guest - Dr. Julie Williams, a school superintendent at Fayetteville Public Schools who brings invaluable insight into how schools are navigating similar struggles across the country. Together, we explore what the film gets right, what educators can learn from it, and how it pushes us to think differently about the role schools play in students' lives beyond academics. Takeaways: Rich Hill shows how hunger, housing insecurity, and mental health challenges often come before homework. For schools, this underscores the need for trauma-informed practices and wraparound services. The boys in the film don’t just struggle in school—they struggle to show up, to stay focused, to feel safe. Educators are reminded that consistency, structure, and relationships are just as essential as curriculum. The film highlights how cycles of poverty are perpetuated by factors outside any one school’s control—but it also shows the power of local leadership and community partnerships in starting to break those cycles. Learn More About Julie Williams: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjulierwilliams/ Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 243 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37616745

'Annie' with Olivia Graf, Matt Rogers, and Carla Cummins 07/23/2025

'Annie' with Olivia Graf, Matt Rogers, and Carla Cummins It’s easy to remember Annie for its catchy tunes and iconic optimism. But what if we told you this classic musical also offers a surprising amount of insight into our education system? In our latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we take a fresh look at the 1982 film adaptation of Annie through the eyes of school designers and changemakers. From the harsh institutional feel of Miss Hannigan’s orphanage to Daddy Warbucks’s transformative environment where Annie’s potential flourishes, the movie mirrors a central truth we see in schools every day: the physical and emotional environment matters. We break down key scenes like the group routines, the classroom-like discipline, and the contrasting settings Annie experiences to explore how learning environments shape behavior, engagement, and opportunity. Whether you're an educator, school leader, architect, or just a fan of classic cinema, this conversation is a reminder that when we create spaces and systems built on care, flexibility, and belief in kids’ potential, anything, even the impossible, becomes possible. Takeaways: The stark contrast between the cold, institutional orphanage and the warm, opportunity-filled mansion mirrors how learning environments affect student mindset, behavior, and engagement. Just like Annie, students thrive in spaces where they feel valued and safe. Miss Hannigan’s rigid, top-down approach reflects outdated models of control in education. In contrast, the trust and autonomy Annie gains in Warbucks’s world show how empowerment fosters confidence, creativity, and curiosity—traits every modern classroom should support. Annie's story reminds us that students often just need one adult to believe in them. Teachers, principals, and support staff can play this vital role—especially for students facing adversity. About Olivia Graf: As the design visionary and thought leader responsible for conceptualizing innovative learning environments at A4E, Olivia leads the practice in planning, programming and the overall design direction of the firm through an interactive and collaborative process. She believes that outstanding projects begin with a clear concept and should balance aesthetics with curriculum-based innovations to create expressive and functional 21st century educational environments that feature hands-on/ minds-on maker spaces, transdisciplinary settings, and project-based learning. Her commitment and involvement extend through every phase of the design process. Olivia is also on the Leadership Group of the American Institute of Architects’ Committee on Architecture for Education (AIA-CAE) and is a frequent speaker at education-focused conferences, including the California STEAM Symposium, California School Business Expo (CASBO), EDspaces, NSTA, and AIA-CAE. Learn More About Olivia Graf: LinkedIn: Learn More About Architecture for Education (A4E): Website: LinkedIn: Facebook: Connect with host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Connect with co-host, Matt Rogers: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 242 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37525510

'Accepted' with Emily Wright, Laura Smyles, and Kevin Stoller 07/16/2025

'Accepted' with Emily Wright, Laura Smyles, and Kevin Stoller What if a group of students created their own college because no one else would accept them? That’s exactly what happens in the 2006 movie Accepted, where a handful of students—rejected by every school they applied to—decide to take matters into their own hands. They invent a fake university, build a website, rent a building, and unknowingly attract hundreds of other students who also felt pushed out by the traditional system. What starts as a lie quickly transforms into something surprisingly real: a student-led, curiosity-driven learning environment where everyone is accepted for who they are. On the surface, it’s a comedy. But underneath the jokes and wild antics is a powerful question that feels more relevant today than it did nearly 20 years ago: Is college really necessary for every student—or has the system become more about tradition and conformity than about helping kids thrive? In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we explore the message behind Accepted and how it mirrors a growing sentiment in education: that we need to rethink what success looks like, who gets to define it, and how we create learning environments that put students first. Whether you're an educator, parent, school leader, or just someone who’s ever asked “Why do we do it this way?”, this episode is for you. Takeaways: While the movie delivers plenty of laughs, it also challenges the rigid, one-size-fits-all structure of traditional higher education. It asks: What happens to students who don’t fit the mold? With rising tuition costs, student debt, and alternative career paths, many students today are questioning the traditional college route. Accepted sparks conversations about whether higher education is serving students—or just serving the system. The fictional South Harmon Institute of Technology thrives because students have control over their learning. This aligns directly with modern education movements that prioritize student agency, passion-based learning, and flexible pathways to success. At its core, Accepted is about belonging. When students feel safe, supported, and seen, they’re more likely to engage, take risks, and grow. That’s a message that transcends comedy and it’s the foundation of good education. References from the Episode: About Emily Wright: Emily J. Wright is a registered architect with over 15 years of experience, an undergraduate degree in biochemistry, a background in clinical psychology, and experience teaching English abroad. Although neurotypical herself, her father, brother, husband, and their three children are neurodivergent. She believes buildings and spaces have a profound impact on our functioning and well-being. Learn More About Emily Wright: LinkedIn: About Laura Smyles: Laura Smyles has over 12 years of experience as an Architect and Educational Planner with Grimm + Parker. As the daughter of a 25-year-long career public school teacher, she brings her unique perspective to educational design along with her direct experience of working with several school systems across the DMV. Mom to three under 5, she is especially familiar with the importance of creating an environment that improves emotional regulation - for kids and adults alike. Learn More About Laura Smyles: LinkedIn: Learn More About Grimm + Parker Architects: Website: LinkedIn: Facebook: Instagram: X: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 241 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37428540

'Hoosiers' with Dr. Deb Kerr and Kevin Stoller 07/09/2025

'Hoosiers' with Dr. Deb Kerr and Kevin Stoller If you’ve ever rooted for the underdog, Hoosiers probably lives rent-free in your head. The 1986 classic isn’t just about basketball—it’s about second chances, small-town pride, and what happens when people start believing in themselves and each other. Set in 1950s Indiana, the film follows a high school basketball team no one expects to win… until they do. In this episode, we explore why Hoosiers continues to resonate in classrooms and communities alike. From Coach Norman Dale’s controversial methods to the redemptive arc of Shooter, the town drunk turned assistant coach, there’s no shortage of teachable moments. At its core, Hoosiers is a story about grit, growth, and the undeniable impact of mentorship. Whether you’re an educator, a coach, or just someone who still gets chills watching the final game, this episode breaks down what Hoosiers has to say about leadership, trust, and building belief in unlikely places. Takeaways: Coach Dale’s insistence on fundamentals—and his refusal to compromise—highlights the tension between tradition and transformation in education and leadership. Shooter’s redemption arc is a powerful reminder of the importance of giving people a chance to rise when others have written them off. The tiny gym, the limited roster, the towering opponents—it all reinforces the idea that success isn’t about size, but about heart, unity, and vision. "Don’t get caught up in the size of the arena"—a lesson for educators and students alike. Great things can come from the smallest places when expectations are high and support is strong. About Dr. Deborah Kerr: Dr. Deborah Kerr is proud to serve as Superintendent of St. Francis Public School District, where she is leading a bold vision to become the best version of SFPSD yet. With a deep commitment to student-centered, equity-focused, and future-driven education, Dr. Kerr is focused on building strong partnerships with staff, families, and the community. Through her listening and learning tour, she’s discovered a shared passion for diversity, dedication to student success, and an unwavering belief in the potential of every learner. Her mission: to help every student discover their strengths, passions, and purpose—and prepare them for a future they choose. Learn More About Dr. Deborah Kerr: LinkedIn: Learn More About St. Francis Public School District: Website: Facebook: Instagram: X: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 240 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37349760

'Matilda' with Charlotte Nienhaus, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 07/02/2025

'Matilda' with Charlotte Nienhaus, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller If you grew up in the '90s, there’s a good chance Matilda made you believe two things: libraries are magical, and adults DEFINITELY don’t always know best... The 1996 movie, adapted from Roald Dahl’s classic book, gave us a hero who wasn’t loud or flashy - but smart, kind, and quietly powerful. Oh, and she had telekinesis. So yeah, iconic. In this episode, we dive into why Matilda still hits all these years later. From the hilariously awful Wormwoods to the nightmare-fuel that is Miss Trunchbull, it’s a story that balances dark humor with real heart. But beyond the fantasy, there’s something incredibly real about a kid discovering her voice and the courage to use it. Whether you’re an educator, a parent, or just someone who remembers rewinding the chocolate cake scene way too many times, this one’s worth revisiting. Join us as we unpack what Matilda can still teach us about agency, learning, and the power of finding just one person who believes in you. Takeaways: Miss Trunchbull’s classroom is fear-based, while Miss Honey’s is nurturing, and that contrast highlights just how much learning environments shape students’ confidence and curiosity. Miss Honey shows the life-changing impact a caring, attentive educator can have. A single person believing in a student’s potential can rewrite their story. Bruce Bogtrotter vs. the giant chocolate cake is one of the most memorable scenes in Matilda—and not just because it’s grossly hilarious. It’s a perfect metaphor for standing up to power. What starts as a cruel punishment turns into a full-on moment of triumph, as the entire student body silently shifts from fear to cheering him on. About Charlotte Nienhaus, AIA: Learn More About ISG: Website: Facebook: Instagram: LinkedIn: X: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 239 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37261035

'High School Musical 2' with Erin Jennings and Carla Cummins 06/25/2025

'High School Musical 2' with Erin Jennings and Carla Cummins When High School Musical 2 premiered on Disney Channel in August 2007, it shattered records with over 17 million viewers tuning in on its first night — making it the most-watched cable movie at the time. Trading school hallways for summer jobs at a posh country club, the film dives deeper into the personal growth of its characters, especially Troy Bolton. As he’s tempted by opportunities that could shape his future, he starts to drift from his friends and Gabriella, leading to heartfelt moments like “Gotta Go My Own Way” and the now-iconic (and meme-worthy) “Bet On It.” With a vibrant setting, high-energy choreography, and a soundtrack that defined a generation, the movie balances summer fun with themes of loyalty, ambition, and staying true to yourself. What sets High School Musical 2 apart from the original is its emotional depth and visual glow-up. From Sharpay’s hilariously over-the-top “Fabulous” to the sun-soaked golf course showdowns, the movie feels bigger and bolder while still holding onto the sincerity that made the first film a hit. For many fans, it remains the best in the trilogy - not just for the catchy songs, but for how it captures the confusing transition between teenage fun and adult choices. At its core, it's a feel-good reminder that success means little if you lose yourself along the way. Takeaways: Unlike the first movie, High School Musical 2 explores personal ambition and integrity. Troy’s internal conflict between chasing opportunity and staying loyal to his friends adds emotional depth that resonates with viewers growing up alongside the characters. The entire movie takes place in a wealthy country club, with Troy and his friends working as staff while Sharpay enjoys every luxury. This creates a visible tension between socioeconomic classes - particularly when Troy is offered elite opportunities at the expense of his peer group. The summer setting shows that learning and personal growth don’t pause when school is out. How we support students in extended learning environments (internships, summer programs, real-world exposure) can have lasting impact. Gabriella choosing to walk away from what doesn’t align with her values is a powerful example of student agency. When schools give students meaningful choices in their learning and extracurriculars, they’re more likely to take ownership of their growth. About Erin Jennings, IIDA, AIA, NCIDQ, NCARB: Learn More About Luminaut: Website: Instagram: LinkedIn: Connect with Host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 238 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37149035

'Wonder' with Brian Proctor, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 06/18/2025

'Wonder' with Brian Proctor, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller What if your first day of school wasn’t just nerve-wracking, but something you’d spent your entire life preparing for? That’s the reality for Auggie Pullman, the main character in Wonder (2017), a film that tells the story of a young boy with facial differences entering a mainstream school for the first time. In this episode, host Kevin Stoller, co-host Carla Cummins, and guest speaker Brian Proctor took a deep dive into the film - not just as a touching family drama, but as a case study in education. From peer relationships to teacher support to the role of school culture, Wonder gives us a lens through which we can evaluate how schools succeed - or fail - in creating inclusive, student-centered environments. The panel explores the film’s central themes of belonging, identity, and the dynamics of family and friendship. They dive into character development, examining how each person - Auggie, his sister Via, classmates like Jack Will, and school leaders - represents a different experience with acceptance and adversity. The conversation also touches on kindness, leadership, bullying, and the growing influence of social media in school dynamics. Guest Brian Proctor, who transitioned from education leadership to a role in school architecture, shares his perspective on how physical space contributes to emotional safety and inclusion. Takeaways: Family dynamics play a crucial role in shaping children’s emotional and social growth. The principal’s leadership style showcases how kindness and character education can take priority over rigid rule enforcement. Quotes from the film, like “When given the choice between being right and being kind, choose kind,” leave a lasting emotional impact. Social media is a double-edged sword—it can amplify support, but also bullying, shaping students’ daily realities. About Brian Proctor: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 237 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/37063065

'Lean on Me' with Brian O'Keeffe and Kevin Stoller 06/11/2025

'Lean on Me' with Brian O'Keeffe and Kevin Stoller In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we dive into the iconic 1989 film Lean on Me, starring Morgan Freeman as the unforgettable Principal Joe Clark—a tough, uncompromising, and deeply committed educator who is called in to rescue a failing inner-city school on the brink of state takeover. Set in Eastside High School in Paterson, New Jersey, the film dramatizes the true story of how Clark used controversial, often militant methods to confront violence, low academic performance, and deteriorating morale. But underneath the shouting, chain-wrapped doors, and expelled drug dealers lies a message about courage, leadership, and believing in students when no one else will. Joining host Kevin Stoller for this breakdown is Dr. Brian K O’Keeffe, who brings an educational leader’s perspective to the real-world challenges reflected in the film. Together, they explore what Lean on Me gets right—and wrong—about education reform, school culture, and the role of school leaders today. Takeaways: Lean on Me reminds us that strong leadership often requires making bold, unpopular decisions. Principal Joe Clark’s extreme methods may have sparked controversy, but his unwavering commitment to student success lit a fire for change. Clark’s toughest love came from a deep belief in his students’ potential. This episode highlights how powerful it can be when educators see beyond circumstances and treat students as capable of excellence - sometimes before they believe it themselves. Before any academic improvements can happen, a school must rebuild its culture. The film shows how restoring order, setting expectations, and cultivating pride in the school community were the essential first steps. The same applies in today’s schools—culture drives outcomes. About Dr. Brian K O'Keeffe From finishes to space planning and furniture selection, Thea collaborates with project team members, consultants, district staff, and stakeholders to develop interior design solutions that enhance their school’s design and align with the district’s educational goals. Thea balances design expertise with end user advocacy to facilitate focus group sessions and synthesize feedback, creating spaces that reflect a learning community’s unique identity. Learn More About Dr. Brian K O'Keeffe: LinkedIn: Learn More About Community Unit School District 200: Website: Facebook: Twitter: Instagram: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 236 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36956055

'Back to School' with Thea Wayburn, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 06/04/2025

'Back to School' with Thea Wayburn, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we’re breaking down the 1986 comedy Back to School, where Rodney Dangerfield plays a loud, lovable millionaire who enrolls in college to reconnect with his son and shakes up the entire campus in the process. Joined by guest Thea Wayburn from BRIC Architecture, host Kevin Stoller and co-host Carla Cummins take a deeper look at how the film portrays higher education, student life, and the meaning of "fitting in." Part of our ongoing series dissecting school-related movies, we explore what this over-the-top comedy reveals (intentionally or not) about learning environments, relationships, and how schools support, or fail to support, belonging and growth. Takeaways: Rodney Dangerfield’s character may be unconventional, but his experience highlights the importance of creating inclusive environments where students of all backgrounds feel like they belong - something schools and universities are still working to get right today. While Back to School leans into comedy, it also touches on deeper issues like academic elitism, outdated teaching methods, and the value of real-world experience, sparking a conversation about what learning should look like in modern education. The movie challenges the idea that there’s only one “right” way to succeed in education. We discuss how schools can better support alternative learners and value life experience alongside academic achievement. About Thea Wayburn From finishes to space planning and furniture selection, Thea collaborates with project team members, consultants, district staff, and stakeholders to develop interior design solutions that enhance their school’s design and align with the district’s educational goals. Thea balances design expertise with end user advocacy to facilitate focus group sessions and synthesize feedback, creating spaces that reflect a learning community’s unique identity. Learn More About Thea Wayburn: LinkedIn: Learn More About Pfluger Architects: Website: Facebook: Twitter: Instagram: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 235 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36850855

'Finding Nemo' with Brenda Swirczynski, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 05/28/2025

'Finding Nemo' with Brenda Swirczynski, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we dive deep (pun intended) into Finding Nemo - the animated adventure that’s equal parts heartwarming, hilarious, and insightful. As part of our series on school-related films, we explore what this Pixar classic can tell us about the student experience, the importance of trust and independence, and how schools can support every kind of learner on their journey. Joining host Kevin Stoller is co-host Carla Cummins and special guest Brenda Swirczynski from Pfluger Architects, bringing both educational and design perspectives to the table. Together, they unpack the film’s themes of overprotection, resilience, and growth — and how those same challenges show up in real-world school environments. From Marlin’s struggle to let go, to Nemo’s need to prove himself, the conversation begins to ask: What can educators, school leaders, and architects learn from this undersea tale? How can schools create environments where students feel safe to explore, fail, and thrive? Takeaways: Marlin’s instinct to shield Nemo from danger mirrors how schools and parents can sometimes overcorrect in the name of safety. Just as Nemo’s “lucky fin” made him different — but not less capable — the conversation highlights the importance of designing spaces and systems that accommodate a wide range of learners, abilities, and personalities. From Dory’s unorthodox support to the Tank Gang’s teamwork, the film underscores the power of collaboration — a theme echoed in the episode’s discussion around how architects, educators, and designers must work together to build student-centered spaces. About Brenda Swirczynski Brenda is a lifelong educator with experience in a variety of educational applications. As a classroom teacher, outdoor educator, and university instructor, she has had the privilege to collaborate with varied audiences on multi-disciplinary projects. Brenda possesses expertise in designing curricula, inquiry-based learning, and educational experiences for audiences with diverse backgrounds. Brenda received her Bachelor’s degree in Education and Master’s in Environmental Science from the University of North Texas. She is a graduate of Cohort 9 of the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) Advanced Academy, earning her Learning Environment Planner (ALEP) accreditation. She continues her design work with individuals who are equally passionate about supporting educators and their students as the Educational Facilities Planner at Pfluger Architects. Finding Nemo is one of her top 10 movies favs of all time! Learn More About Brenda Swirczynski: LinkedIn: Learn More About Pfluger Architects: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 234 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36679775

'Superbad' with Nick Duffy, Ken Hagen, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 05/21/2025

'Superbad' with Nick Duffy, Ken Hagen, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller In this episode, we’re diving into the wildly popular teen comedy Superbad — one of the most iconic (and ridiculous) high school movies out there. As part of our series on school-related films, we’re looking at what Superbad got right about the student experience, what it totally blew out of proportion, and why it still hits home for so many people. Superbad follows two inseparable best friends, Seth and Evan, as they navigate their final days of high school — chasing parties, popularity, and one last shot at leaving their mark before graduation. Beneath all the chaos and crude humor is a surprisingly real look at teenage friendship, insecurity, and the awkward (and often hilarious) leap into adulthood — a sneak peek at one of the hot takes from our episode! We unpack the awkwardness, social dynamics, and over-the-top moments — and ask what it all says about how pop culture portrays school life. It's part movie breakdown, part education lens, and all about what we can learn (and laugh at) when Hollywood takes on high school. What does it say about student relationships, social dynamics, and the overall high school experience? How do movies like this shape the way we think about education — and how students think about themselves? We’re not taking it too seriously (it is Superbad, after all), but we are looking at what educators and school leaders can learn from how pop culture reflects — and distorts — the real student experience. Takeaways: Superbad, like many teen comedies, exaggerates for laughs, but it also influences how students, parents, and even educators view the high school experience. Behind the chaos and crude humor, Superbad highlights a very real truth: students crave meaningful friendships and validation during a time of major life transitions. While Superbad doesn’t show much of the classroom environment, it reminds us how much of student life happens in between classes — in the social spaces. It's a good reminder that learning environments need to be designed for connection, mobility, and authenticity. Laughing at the awkwardness and absurdity of adolescence helps us connect to students’ experiences. Movies like Superbad give us an opportunity to talk about real issues — like peer pressure, insecurity, and self-discovery — in a more approachable way. About Nick Duffy Nick has spent nearly 20 years in education with over a decade as a school principal, focused on serving and leading students, staff, and systems in the Eastern Iowa area. He has experience facilitating meetings large and small with effective communication to prioritize consensus building, conflict resolution, and problem solving. Nick’s background includes collaborating with leadership teams to set priorities and focus areas that works toward the organizational goals and action plans, along with adjusting resources as needed. He values people-based and culture-impact principles in his decisions, and brings this perspective to the every table to foster a positive environment for all stakeholders. Learn More About Nick Duffy: LinkedIn: About Ken Hagen, AIA, ALEP Learn More About OPN Architects: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Episode 233 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36660410

'Napoleon Dynamite' with Brian Parker, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 05/14/2025

'Napoleon Dynamite' with Brian Parker, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller is joined by co-host Carla Cummins and guest speaker Brian Parker, AIA, ALEP—Vice President of K-12 at MHTN Architects—for a quirky and insightful conversation centered around the 2004 classic Napoleon Dynamite. As one of only two Accredited Learning Environment Planners in Utah, Brian brings a unique design perspective rooted in empathy, student agency, and unlocking the potential within every learner. Napoleon Dynamite follows the offbeat story of an awkward high schooler navigating friendship, identity, and self-expression in rural Idaho. Through the lens of this oddball comedy, Kevin, Carla, and Brian explore deeper themes of inclusion, overlooked potential, and the importance of designing learning spaces that honor the individuality of each student. They reflect on how schools can be more than institutions—they can be launchpads for confidence, creativity, and quiet greatness, especially for those who don’t always fit the traditional mold. Takeaways: Just like the characters in Napoleon Dynamite, students don’t all fit into a standard mold—and that’s something to celebrate. School environments should support individuality and provide room for students to be unapologetically themselves. When students feel seen, heard, and valued—whether in the classroom or the cafeteria—they’re more likely to engage and thrive. Designing for belonging is just as important as designing for function. Like Napoleon, many students have gifts that aren't always loud or obvious. Educators and designers should look for ways to highlight and support those quiet strengths. A little levity and creativity go a long way in helping students (and educators) feel connected and human. Schools don’t have to be stiff to be successful. About Brian Parker, AIA, ALEP Learn More About Co-Host, Carla Cummins LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 232 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36570475

'School of Rock' with Mason Pashia, Matt Rogers, and Kevin Stoller 05/07/2025

'School of Rock' with Mason Pashia, Matt Rogers, and Kevin Stoller In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller is joined by co-host Matt Rogers and guest speaker Mason Pashia, Partner (Storytelling) at Getting Smart Collective, for an energetic and thought-provoking conversation centered around the 2003 cult classic School of Rock. Known for his work amplifying the voices of educators and change-makers through storytelling, Mason brings a fresh and imaginative lens to how we think about student engagement, creative expression, and nontraditional learning paths. School of Rock follows the story of Dewey Finn, a struggling musician who finds unexpected purpose—and unleashes unexpected potential—when he poses as a substitute teacher and transforms a class of rule-following prep school kids into a rock band. Together, Matt and Mason explore the film’s deeper themes of passion, authenticity, and belonging in education. They reflect on how schools can create space for students to discover their identities, pursue what excites them, and challenge conventional measures of success—all while staying grounded in a mission to serve and empower every learner. Takeaways: School of Rock highlights how stepping outside traditional curriculum and teaching methods can unlock student potential and engagement in surprising ways. Dewey Finn's enthusiasm for music becomes the bridge that allows students to connect with their interests—and with each other. Educators can harness this same power by leading with passion. The film underscores the importance of allowing students to have a say in their learning journey. When students are given autonomy, they rise to the occasion and take ownership of their growth. Matt and Mason explore how School of Rock challenges rigid definitions of success and encourages schools to recognize diverse forms of excellence—not just academic achievement. About Mason Pashia: Mason Pashia is a Partner (Storytelling) at Getting Smart Collective. Through publications, blogs, podcasts, town halls, newsletters, and more, he helps drive the perspective and focus of GettingSmart.com. He advocates for data and collective imagination and uses this combination to launch campaigns that amplify voices, organizations, and missions. With over a decade in the storytelling sector (including brand strategy, marketing and communications, and the arts), Mason is always striving to inspire as well as inform. Learn More About Mason Pashia: LinkedIn: Learn More About The Getting Smart Podcast: Website: About Matt Rogers: Matt Rogers is a dynamic professional deeply committed to advancing the education industry through innovative strategies and impactful initiatives. As the Communications Manager at Kay-Twelve, he leads transformative efforts in education by revolutionizing physical learning environments and improving education through the use of media. His dedication has earned him recognition as Kay-Twelve’s Core Values Employee of the Year in both 2021 and 2022, and also positioned him as one of the inaugural winners of the NexGen Awards in 2023. Matt joined the Kay-Twelve team in 2019 as an intern while attending Fisher College of Business at The Ohio State University. Matt’s multifaceted approach extends beyond his role at Kay-Twelve; he serves as the lead Producer for the Better Learning Podcast where they facilitate enlightening discussions that break down the silos of physical space, leadership, and culture in education. Learn More About Matt Rogers LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 231 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36477015

What Are Green Schools and Why They Matter 04/30/2025

What Are Green Schools and Why They Matter What is a Green School? When people hear “Green School,” they often picture solar panels, school gardens, or maybe a greenhouse out back. While those are pieces of the puzzle, the full picture is much more powerful. A Green School integrates sustainability into every aspect of the learning experience: from the design of its physical space to its curriculum, culture, and community impact. It’s a school that not only teaches sustainability but lives it, showing students, educators, and families what a healthier, more equitable future can look like—and empowering them to lead the way. In our latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we dive into why Green Schools matter now more than ever. With nearly 100,000 public schools across the U.S., the stakes are high. School facilities don’t just house students—they influence how well they learn, how healthy they are, and how connected their communities feel. We explore the current challenges in school infrastructure, including the startling reality that many buildings still lack basics like proper ventilation or air conditioning. These gaps disproportionately affect underserved communities and create barriers to learning and well-being. A Green School aims to change that. By reducing environmental impact, improving health and performance, and delivering sustainability education, these schools set the standard for how we treat each other and the planet. They become catalysts for change—transforming not just students, but entire communities. Takeaways: Green Schools go beyond solar panels and gardens. They integrate sustainability into curriculum, culture, and community. Millions of students attend outdated schools every day — with nearly 100,000 public schools across the U.S. and over 7.5 billion square feet in need of modernization, the learning environment is failing to keep pace with student needs. School leaders play a critical role in long-term sustainability. Partnering with experts who prioritize healthy, future-ready design ensures that new school buildings serve students and communities for decades to come, not just on day one. Schools can take advantage of available tax credits and funding by prioritizing sustainable building practices. About The Guest Panelists: Jana Silsby, DLR Group LinkedIn: Phoebe Beierle, U.S. Green Building Council: LinkedIn: Sara Ross, UnDauntedK12: LinkedIn: Connect with episode host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: The Energy, Carbon, and Sustainability in K-12 Education Symposium When: June 24th-25th Where: Washington DC Episode 230 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36373355

'Stand and Deliver' with Don Baus, Victoria Morlan, and Carla Cummins 04/23/2025

'Stand and Deliver' with Don Baus, Victoria Morlan, and Carla Cummins In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Carla Cummins is joined by co-host Victoria Morlan as well as architect and education advocate Don Baus for a powerful conversation around the 1988 film Stand and Deliver. With decades of combined experience in designing and supporting student-centered environments, the two explore how the true story of Jaime Escalante continues to challenge and inspire today’s educators, designers, and school leaders. Set in a struggling East L.A. high school, Stand and Deliver follows math teacher Jaime Escalante as he empowers his students to defy expectations and succeed in AP Calculus—despite systemic barriers and cultural doubt. Victoria and Don dig into the film’s themes of belief, rigor, and resilience, connecting them to their own work helping schools design spaces where students feel seen, capable, and empowered to succeed. Don, Charleston Office President for architecture firm Little and a longtime champion of inspiring learning environments, brings a unique design perspective to the discussion. Together, he and Victoria reflect on what it truly means to curate spaces and systems that allow every student to rise—and the ongoing responsibility educators and designers have to ensure equity, access, and inspiration are built into every learning experience. Takeaways: Jaime Escalante's unwavering belief in his students’ potential shows how a single educator's confidence can transform lives and outcomes. When we set the bar high and provide support, students often exceed what others believed possible. Recognizing and valuing diverse backgrounds helps educators design learning experiences that truly resonate. Thoughtful school design - both physical and emotional - can inspire students and help them thrive. About Don Baus: As past president of AIA Charleston, Don is deeply rooted in South Carolina and champions the delivery of Little’s promise to elevate client performance while advancing the firm’s reputation in thought leadership, innovation and breakthrough ideas throughout the state. Don has more than 26 years of industry experience on regional projects including K-12 education, higher education, civic, healthcare and mixed-use. He has successfully led teams through all facets of project development from conceptual design through construction, always with a focus on client success and design excellence. Learn More About Don Baus, AIA, LEED AP: LinkedIn: Learn More About Little Diversified Architectural Consulting: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: About Victoria Brooks Morlan, CPSI, ECLPS: Victoria Brooks Morlan came to Kay-Twelve with 25 years of experience in the education space. She has worked with schools and architects throughout the Carolinas, Virginia and Georgia, helping to develop innovative learning environments for students of all ages. A teacher by education, Victoria has a unique ability for connecting with her clients while seeking to provide them with a holistic solution to foster innovative, collaborative and pedagogy-driven learning environments. Learn More About Victoria Brooks Morlan, CPSI, ECLPS: LinkedIn: Learn More About Kay-Twelve: Website: LinkedIn: Instagram: Connect with episode host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Episode 229 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36280540

'High School Musical' with Candace Seda, Stephanie Seda, and Carla Cummins 04/16/2025

'High School Musical' with Candace Seda, Stephanie Seda, and Carla Cummins In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, Carla Cummins is joined by her daughter Jennifer Cummins and special guests Candace Seda and Stephanie Seda for a fun and thought-provoking dive into Disney’s 2006 cultural phenomenon High School Musical. With a multigenerational panel of educators, designers, and education advocates, the group explores how the film’s catchy tunes, teen drama, and feel-good message intersect with real-life high school experiences. Set at the fictional East High School, High School Musical follows Troy Bolton and Gabriella Montez as they challenge stereotypes, break out of their expected roles, and redefine what it means to belong. The conversation goes beyond choreography to unpack deeper themes of identity, student voice, peer pressure, and the often rigid boxes students are placed in. Carla, Jenny, Candace, and Stephanie reflect on how the film’s message of “breaking free” still resonates with students today. They discuss the importance of cultivating environments where young people feel seen, safe, and empowered to pursue their full potential—whether on the court, in the lab, or on stage. Together, they celebrate the magic of student-centered learning while confronting the real challenges schools face in living that out. Takeaways: Students are more than stereotypes. Just like Troy and Gabriella, students thrive when given the freedom to explore interests outside of their “assigned” labels. Schools should nurture the whole child—not just the athlete, the scholar, or the artist. When students try something outside of the norm, they need allies—peers, teachers, and parents—who encourage them to break free from expectations and find their voice. Culture eats curriculum for breakfast. A strong, inclusive school culture is the foundation for student growth. The environment at East High showed how cliques and unwritten rules can restrict potential. Candace reflected on how High School Musical—with its vibrant sets, energetic common spaces, and distinct zones for different student identities—influences how designers think about school environments today. The film reminds us that the physical space of a school tells a story. When designing schools, it’s not just about functionality; it’s about creating places where students feel inspired, seen, and connected. About Candace Seda, NOMA, AIA, NCARB: Candace Seda is an Atlanta-born architect with almost a decade of professional experience in the K-12, higher education, civic, and medical office sectors. She earned her B.S. Arch and M. Arch from the Georgia Institute of Technology, specializing in graphic design and sustainability. As the daughter of an educator, she channels her passion for education and community to create inspiring learning environments, positively impacting the educational experience for future generations. Candace leverages her graphic design expertise to craft visually compelling and cohesive spaces through experiential graphics. Known for leading conversations on inclusion and equity, Candace aims to make quality design accessible to those historically excluded or overlooked, benefiting both clients and industry professionals. She accomplishes this through her work at Craig Gaulden Davis Architecture, organizations like VANOMA and Diversity Architecture, as well as her design firm Candace Seda Design. About Stephanie Seda: Stephanie Seda, a 26-year-old 5th-grade teacher based in Athens, GA, is deeply committed to empowering Black and Brown students to become confident leaders. With a strong passion for Social Studies education, Stephanie strives to make history come alive for her students, encouraging them to engage with the world around them. Outside the classroom, Stephanie is an avid reader and TV enthusiast, always ready for a thoughtful conversation. When she's not teaching or discussing the latest book or show, you can find her singing or roller skating, embracing her creative side and enjoying life to the fullest. Learn More About Craig Gaulden Davis | PBK Website: Learn More About Candace Seda, NOMA, AIA, NCARB: LinkedIn: Learn More About Jennifer Cummins: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Episode 228 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36187290

'Teachers' (1984) with Steve Miletto and Kevin Stoller 04/09/2025

'Teachers' (1984) with Steve Miletto and Kevin Stoller Kevin Stoller is joined by longtime educator and podcast host Steve Miletto to unpack the 1984 film Teachers, a gritty dramedy that offers an unflinching critique of the American public school system. Directed by Arthur Hiller and starring Nick Nolte, Teachers dives headfirst into the dysfunction, bureaucracy, and burnout often hidden behind school walls. Set in a troubled urban high school, the story centers on idealistic teacher Alex Jurel, who’s caught between his desire to make a difference and a system that seems determined to maintain the status quo. With subplots involving a mentally ill teacher who was never removed, a student lawsuit, and apathetic staff, the movie blurs the line between satire and sobering reality. Kevin and Steve discuss how many of the themes from Teachers—such as disengaged leadership, systemic failure, and student disillusionment—still resonate in today’s schools. Their conversation explores what’s changed (and what hasn’t) in the decades since the film’s release, the importance of strong school culture, and how educators can lead with purpose in the face of institutional challenges. It’s a raw and honest discussion about the role of teachers, the need for systemic change, and the heart it takes to truly connect with students. Takeaways: Teachers (1984) offers a satirical yet sobering critique of the American public school system, many of which still resonate today. The character of Alex Jurel represents the struggle of passionate educators trying to make a difference within a broken system. The episode explores how authentic relationships and emotional intelligence are still the most powerful tools educators have. The discussion underscores the mental health toll on both students and teachers in rigid, outdated school environments. Despite the challenges, the film and the conversation both reinforce why committed, caring educators matter more than ever. About Steve Miletto: Steven Miletto, EdD has been an educator in Georgia(US) for 38 years. He has served public school families as a history teacher, assistant principal, high school principal, and RESA (Regional Education Service Agency) Executive Director in the Heart of Georgia RESA (8 years) and now with North Georgia RESA (3years). In 2009, he was the Georgia Principal of the Year and a finalist for NASSP/MetLife National Principal of the Year in 2010. In 2007 he received the Atlanta Braves/AT&T Educator of the Year Award. His focus in education is to help kids achieve their dreams. Learn More About Steve's Podcast, Teaching Learning Leading K12 Website: Learn More About Steve Miletto Website: LinkedIn: Twitter: YouTube: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 227 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/36075175

'Mean Girls' with Steven Shapiro, Nancy Shapiro Rapport, and Kevin Stoller 04/02/2025

'Mean Girls' with Steven Shapiro, Nancy Shapiro Rapport, and Kevin Stoller Mean Girls, directed by Mark Waters and written by Tina Fey, is a cult classic teen comedy based on Rosalind Wiseman’s book Queen Bees and Wannabes. The film humorously yet accurately portrays the harsh realities of high school social dynamics, focusing on cliques, peer pressure, and the impact of popularity on self-identity. The story follows Cady Heron, a homeschooled girl navigating the cutthroat social hierarchy of public high school life after moving from Africa. As she infiltrates "The Plastics," the school’s most popular clique, Cady faces a moral dilemma that tests her values, self-image, and relationships. Though often comedic, the movie sheds light on serious issues like bullying, conformity, and the challenges of adolescence. In this episode, Kevin Stoller, Nancy Shapiro Rapport, and Steven Shapiro discuss the movie through the lens of parenting and education. They explore the challenges faced by kids and parents in today's society, particularly focusing on the mental health crisis and the breakdown of family structures. The conversation delves into character analyses, the impact of school environments, and the importance of emotional health in raising children. Takeaways: Consistent, intentional conversations about values and behavior are essential for raising resilient, emotionally healthy children. Small, deliberate actions can lead to significant, long-term results. A strong family culture, built on open communication and shared values, can help children navigate social pressures and define their identity. Parents need to engage in ongoing discussions about kindness, respect, and self-worth. Technology has fundamentally changed how teens communicate and form relationships. Setting boundaries around device use and fostering in-person connections can help counteract the isolating effects of screen time. Adolescence is a time of self-discovery, and social interactions can be intense and confusing. Understanding the pressures teens face helps parents provide better support. Schools can support parents by reinforcing positive behaviors and values, while communities can provide a support network for parents navigating the challenges of raising children. Comedy can be an effective way to connect with teens, understand their world, and initiate meaningful conversations. Movies like Mean Girls use humor to highlight real issues in adolescence. About Steven Shapiro: Steven Shapiro is a veteran school reimaginer, with over 30 years of K-12 classroom teaching experience, 15 concurrent years as a high school humanities program director, and four years as a district leader of experiential learning. Steven is the host of the acclaimed podcast Experience Matters. He delivers keynote presentations on topics including supporting parents in the digital age, addressing the youth mental health crisis, and designing authentic learning experiences. Steven and his wife Susan are the proud parents of three adult children. About Nancy Shapiro Rapport: Nancy spent the majority of her 34-year public-education career as a school counselor, supporting students and parents in navigating the challenging “middle years.” Her leadership roles in professional development and crisis management showcased her ability to identify needs, empathize with various stakeholders, and deliver results. As a certified Hudson Institute coach, Nancy has extensive training in coaching and human development. She has taught courses on learner mindset and question thinking, helping adults pursue a life of curiosity, inquiry, and possibility. Nancy brings a wealth of experience in both child and adult learning to her role as co-founder of Our Family Culture. Most importantly, she is the proud parent of two adult children, Emily and Jacob. Learn More About Our Family Culture: Website: Connect with Steven Shapiro: LinkedIn: Connect with Nancy Shapiro Rapport: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 226 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35979935

'Top Gun' with Stacey Waxtan and Kevin Stoller 03/26/2025

'Top Gun' with Stacey Waxtan and Kevin Stoller Few movies capture the essence of leadership, teamwork, and adaptability quite like Top Gun. While it’s a high-octane film about elite fighter pilots pushing their limits, the lessons it offers extend far beyond the cockpit—straight into the world of education. Just like Maverick and his fellow aviators must embrace continuous learning, mentorship, and resilience, educators and school leaders face the challenge of preparing students for an ever-evolving future. In this review, we’ll break down the powerful parallels between Top Gun and education, exploring what it means to foster a high-performance learning environment where every student can take flight. Takeaways: Just like Top Gun pilots constantly train and refine their skills, educators must embrace ongoing professional development to adapt to new teaching methods, technologies, and student needs. Maverick learns from his instructors and teammates, just as students benefit from strong teacher-student relationships. Great educators inspire, challenge, and support students to reach their full potential. While Top Gun pilots start as fierce competitors, they quickly realize success depends on working together. In education, collaboration among teachers, administrators, and students creates the best learning environments. About Stacey Waxtan: Stacey tells her client’s story with every selection, building a user experience with intention, form, and delight. A New York City native with a touch of Minnesota nice, she leads the HUNT Interiors Team with style and grace, developing concepts with client direction and overarching themes. Stacey orchestrates collaboration across disciplines, champions new technologies, and supports a true team environment that celebrates the best ideas. As inspiration is paramount to design, Stacey has traveled to conferences and art exhibits in Paris, Milan, Tel Aviv, Tokyo, and across the United States. Mentoring high school and college students, Stacey strives to inspire the next generation of designers and architects to lead with a design story, and always from the perspective of the end user. Stacey is passionate about community building and art in public spaces. She's a member of AIA, serves as Board Member on the Community Design Center of Rochester, is a repeat team member [and runway model] in the AIA Rochester Product Runway Fashion Show, and practices ballet whenever possible. FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series Learn More About HUNT EAS: Website: Connect with Stacey Waxtan: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 225 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35872665

Revisiting the Origins of Our Movie Review Format and Future Films 03/19/2025

Revisiting the Origins of Our Movie Review Format and Future Films In this special episode, we take a nostalgic look back at the early recordings that sparked our popular movie review format. This episode is a fun compilation of guests sharing their favorite school-related movies and TV shows, along with their thoughts on what’s realistic — and what’s not — about those stories. Our guests represent voices from across the country, including Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas, Missouri, Montana, Arizona, Wisconsin, California, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, North Carolina, Oregon, Kentucky, New York, Connecticut, Minnesota, and Rhode Island. Each guest answered two key questions: What is your favorite school-related TV show or movie? What is unrealistic about that movie or TV show? The answers ranged from heartwarming classics to laugh-out-loud comedies and inspiring dramas. Here’s a breakdown of the most mentioned titles: School of Rock - 6 mentions Abbott Elementary - 4 mentions Remember the Titans - 2 mentions Grease - 2 mentions The Sound of Music - 1 mention Dead Poets Society - 1 mention Home Alone - 1 mention Annie - 1 mention Welcome Back, Kotter - 1 mention Dangerous Minds - 1 mention Summer School - 1 mention Top Gun - 1 mention Stand and Deliver - 1 mention To Sir, With Love - 1 mention Ferris Bueller's Day Off - 1 mention Fast Times at Ridgemont High - 1 mention Most Likely to Succeed - 1 mention Gilmore Girls - 1 mention Glee - 1 mention The Long Game - 1 mention A Christmas Story - 1 mention Billy Madison - 1 mention The OC - 1 mention The Breakfast Club - 1 mention I Love Lucy - 1 mention Friday Night Lights - 1 mention Yesterday - 1 mention Old School - 1 mention Boston Public - 1 mention Freedom Writers - 1 mention Ted Lasso - 1 mention Back to School - 1 mention Whether you're a fan of inspiring educators, unforgettable student antics, or heartwarming school stories, this episode is packed with entertaining insights from guests who know education best. Tune in to hear what your peers are watching and maybe add a few new titles to your must-watch list! Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 224 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35781825

'The Incredibles' with Mercedes Johnson, Katie Riley, and Kevin Stoller 03/12/2025

'The Incredibles' with Mercedes Johnson, Katie Riley, and Kevin Stoller What Do The Incredibles and Educators Have in Common? In our latest Better Learning Podcast episode, we dive into The Incredibles (2004) and uncover powerful insights for educators. Just like Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl face lawsuits that restrict their powers, teachers often feel held back by red tape and policies that limit their ability to innovate in the classroom. We explore how educators can break free from these constraints, unlocking their creativity, adaptability, and empathy to make a bigger impact. Plus, we break down fun film moments that mirror real-life school experiences. Takeaways: Everyone wants to be special and normal at the same time Teachers aren't the only adults that can have an impact Everyone has their own superpowers Different is okay About Mercedes Johnson: In 1995, Mercedes Ramirez Johnson narrowly survived a commercial airplane crash that killed 160 people, including her parents. She presents her proprietary Second Chance Living concept, an innovative mindset and approach with a proven track record, to organizations such as General Electric, ExxonMobil, Microsoft, NASA, Chevron, and the various branches of the US Armed Forces. Before becoming a speaker, Mercedes spent nearly a decade in high-level sales in the pharmaceutical and medical software industries. A record-breaking, multimillion dollar producer, she became the youngest female and sole Latino account executive at Cerner Corporation. She is an active leader in philanthropic organizations advocating for special needs children and children’s health initiatives, notably for Make-A-Wish and The National MPS Society. Mercedes and her story have been the subject of considerable national and international media coverage. About Katie Riley: Katie Riley’s extensive career reflects a strong dedication to transforming education, particularly for students with diverse learning needs. With 25 years of experience in various educational settings, including public and private schools, and her work in parish schools, she has built a reputation as an educator passionate about making a difference for all students. Her journey began in the challenging but rewarding environments of Chicago Public Schools and Dallas Independent School Districts, where she was determined to improve educational outcomes for students with different learning styles. As her career progressed, her expertise expanded, and she took on leadership roles as an educational consultant and an administrator of high-impact schools in Dallas. Katie continues her deep commitment to innovation in education and a drive to advocate for students who may otherwise be overlooked. She is currently an educational consultant who works with schools and families to help ensure all students find an environment where they can be successful. Connect with Mercedes Ramirez Johnson: Website: LinkedIn: X: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 223 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35656825

'Battle Royale' with BrandonToksMovies, Ben Treadway, and Kevin Stoller 03/06/2025

'Battle Royale' with BrandonToksMovies, Ben Treadway, and Kevin Stoller What happens when competition goes way too far? In this episode, we dive into Battle Royale—the cult classic that makes The Hunger Games look like a friendly school fundraiser—to uncover any connections to education. Joined by TikTok movie reviewers BrandonToksMovies and Ben Treadway, we break down the film’s themes of competition, authority, and survival—and how they (thankfully, in a less deadly way) mirror the struggles students face in real life. Can we actually learn anything from this extreme scenario to improve schools? How does this dystopian scenario reflect the pressures students face today? Tune in as we try reading between the lines and figure out what Battle Royale can teach us. Takeaways: The teacher on the very first day sets the tone for how the class is going to be run Creating connection creates care Don't pit students against each other, foster connection and growth together As a teenager, hormones run the show Brandon and Ben are the hosts of The Cinemast Podcast, a film podcast where they discuss both new and favorite films from two different perspectives, Ben is the everyman and Brandon is the cinephile. In addition to the podcast, Brandon creates movie-related content on TikTok and Instagram under the username . They both live in Arizona with their families. Check Out The Cinemast Podcast: Website: Connect with BrandonToksMovies: TikTok: Instagram: YouTube: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 222 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35565515

'Summer School' with Mark Greenberg, Eric Stoller, and Kevin Stoller 02/26/2025

'October Sky' with Michael Duncan, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 02/19/2025

'October Sky' with Michael Duncan, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller Can one teacher change the course of a student’s life? Can curiosity survive in a system that prioritizes conformity? October Sky is more than just a heartwarming story about a boy and his rockets—it’s a powerful look at the impact of education, ambition, and the struggle between dreams and expectations. But how accurately does it reflect today’s schools? Are students still discouraged from pursuing unconventional paths? Do educators still have the power to ignite change? In this review, we’ll break down what October Sky gets right (and where it misses the mark) when it comes to the modern classroom. Takeaways: Curiosity and inquiry are still not be nurtured in schools Project based learning allows students to be self directed and follow their passions Dreaming doesn't get you where you want to be- action is required Just don't quit! - Advice from Michael Having a network helps when you get stuck About Michael Duncan: An award-winning superintendent and longtime champion of education transformation, Dr. Mike Duncan is the President and CEO of Battelle for Kids. Mike was one of the longest-serving superintendents in the state of Georgia, leading Pike County Schools for 18 years from 2005 until his retirement in 2023. He worked diligently to reimagine educational opportunities and implement enduring transformation for all students in Pike County. He spearheaded the creation of their Portrait of a Graduate and worked to achieve the district’s mission of developing creative problem solvers. Mike was honored as the Georgia Superintendent of the Year in 2021. Under Mike’s leadership, Pike County Schools was actively engaged in EdLeader21, the national network of Battelle for Kids, for more than a decade during his superintendency. Mike is also the co-founder and co-designer of the Georgia Deeper Learning Network for Workforce Readiness and Economic Prosperity. An educator at heart, Mike has served as a high school principal and a middle school teacher and principal. He holds a doctorate in educational leadership and a master’s degree from the University of Georgia, along with a bachelor’s degree from Georgia Southern University. Learn More About Battelle for Kids: Website: Connect with Michael Duncan: LinkedIn: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 220 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35351865

'Radio' with Meredith Watassek, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 02/12/2025

'Radio' with Meredith Watassek, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller Radio is a powerful example of why being different doesn’t mean being wrong—and how society often struggles with that distinction. Based on a true story, the film follows the relationship between high school football coach Harold Jones (played by Ed Harris) and a young man with an intellectual disability, James Robert “Radio” Kennedy (played by Cuba Gooding Jr.). Initially an outcast in the community, Radio is taken under Coach Jones’s wing, gradually becoming a beloved figure at the school. The film ultimately teaches that just because someone doesn’t fit traditional expectations doesn’t mean they’re wrong or less than. True strength lies in compassion, and real leadership is about lifting others up rather than shutting them out. Radio encourages us to rethink our biases and embrace people for who they are, not just for how they compare to societal norms. Takeaways: Education should be student focussed Everyone should have a chance to learn One person can change a community About Meredith Watassek: Meredith Watassek joined Stantec as an Education Planner after more than 24 years in Education. The last nine years of her career as an educator, she served as Director of Career and Technical Education (CTE) for the sixth largest school district in Texas. Meredith has guided dozens of Stantec clients through the engagement process on projects while simultaneously leading planning and specifications development for future academic spaces. Several of her most recent projects include School Master Planning for Alvin Community College, visioning and design of the Career and Technical Education Center for Lamar CISD, and School Master Planning and Specifications for Salteaux First Nations in Saskatchewan, Canada. Before joining Stantec, Meredith oversaw Stantec’s design and execution of the James Reese Career and Technical Education Center for Fort Bend Independent School District in Sugar Land, TX, defining program and project scope for the new facility. With a rich background in CTE, Meredith can communicate with educators in a way that architects cannot; because she’s been in their shoes, at the front of a classroom, managing both success factors and the student experience. She believes that learning environments shape a student's experience, even if just passively. It is inside schools that students develop beliefs about their ability to be successful. For this reason, Meredith maintains that designers, planners, architects, and contractors have a responsibility to provide the most nurturing environment possible for students. Connect with Meredith Watassek: LinkedIn: Twitter: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 219 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35261000

'Ted Lasso' with Heidie Ciesielski, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 02/05/2025

'Ted Lasso' with Heidie Ciesielski, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller The hit series Ted Lasso isn’t just about soccer—it’s about leadership, culture, and the power of belief. On a special episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we sat down with Superintendent Heidie Ciesielski to break down the show’s biggest lessons and how they apply to education today. From Ted’s optimism to his ability to build a strong, student-centered culture, we explored how school leaders can create environments where students and educators thrive. The series highlights the importance of trust, resilience, and the impact of mentorship—qualities that define great school leadership. Whether you’re an educator, administrator, or just a fan of the show, this episode offers a fresh perspective on how the Ted Lasso mindset can shape the future of learning. Takeaways: There's leaders in all of us Parents have a huge impact on their kids- so impact them for good Be curious, not judgmental There are many different ways to be a good leader It's never too late to be a good person About Heidie Ciesielski: Superintendent of Fenton Area Public Schools - 26 years in education - previous middle school MASSP principal of the year - previous Executive Director of Teaching and Learning with FAPS. Passionate about organizational leadership, and valuing those that work in the district you lead. Connect with Heidie Ciesielski: Fenton Area Public Schools Website: LinkedIn: Twitter: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 218 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35165570

'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone' with Trevor Muir, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller 01/29/2025

'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone' with Trevor Muir, Carla Cummins, and Kevin Stoller Trevor Muir, an inspiring keynote speaker who celebrated the power of storytelling in education and an avid Harry Potter fan, sits down with host Kevin Stoller and co-host Carla Cummins to dive into the real-world connections between education and the beloved book series. They explore the different teaching styles depicted in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone, the importance of building strong relationships with students, and how elements of the wizarding world can inform and inspire today’s learning environments. At last year’s LearningSCAPES conference, we had the pleasure of connecting with Trevor Muir, an inspiring keynote speaker who celebrated the power of storytelling in education. His keynote emphasized how authentic engagement empowers students, even through challenging times, by integrating real-world projects. From screening interviews with WWII veterans to creating helpful guides for recent immigrants, his approach demonstrated the impact of learning beyond the classroom. Now, we just need to provide agile spaces to support this type of transformative learning. Tune in to this magical conversation as we explore how the world of Harry Potter can inspire real-world educational practices. Takeaways: Everyone has their own superpowers It's important to be intentional when sorting students Caring for your students is one of the most impactful things you can do About Trevor Muir: Trevor is a teacher, author, creator, and co-founder of the New Teacher Academy. His books The Epic Classroom, The Collaborative Classroom, and New Teacher Mindset have helped teachers worldwide to create purposeful and dynamic learning experiences. Trevor has taught in middle, high school, and college classrooms, as well as pre-service teachers at Grand Valley State University. He was a national faculty member for the Buck Institute for Education and his work has been featured in the Huffington Post, Edutopia, EdWeek, and WeAreTeachers. Trevor's inspiring and informative videos have been viewed over 30 million times. At the heart of Trevor’s work is the conviction that every student has the potential for greatness, and that every teacher can be equipped to unlock that potential. Connect with Trevor Muir: Website: Instagram: Twitter: Facebook: YouTube: Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins: LinkedIn: Connect with host, Kevin Stoller: LinkedIn: Episode 217 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at . For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - Education Leaders' Organization - Second Class Foundation - EDmarket - Catapult @ Penn GSE - Want to be a Guest Speaker? /episode/index/show/betterlearning/id/35066020

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