Designed for the Creative Mind™
Your designs are beautiful, but you’re struggling with the business of your interior design business. Join successful interior design business owner, Michelle Lynne, of ML Interiors Group each Monday morning as she shares the processes she has found useful in growing her own 7-figure design firm, interviews industry related guests, and brings her own team of designers on for lively conversations. If you aren’t happy with the performance of your interior design business, are tired of trading your time for money, and know you were made for more, this show is for you.
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Ep 225: Profit Isn't An Accident Series - The Markup Myth
05/11/2026
Ep 225: Profit Isn't An Accident Series - The Markup Myth
Why Cost Plus 30% Is Quietly Killing Your Profit In this episode of Profit Isn’t an Accident, Michelle Lynne tackles one of the most accepted pricing “standards” in the interior design industry: cost plus 30%. And here’s the truth most designers never hear: A 30% markup is not the same thing as a 30% profit margin. Michelle breaks down the real math behind procurement, markup vs. margin, and why so many talented design firms are unintentionally underpricing themselves into burnout. If you’ve ever felt busy but not profitable, this episode explains why. You’ll learn how to evaluate your procurement costs, rethink your pricing structure, and start building a business model that actually supports your firm long term. In This Episode, We Cover: Why “cost plus 30%” became the industry norm The difference between markup and profit margin Why a 30% markup only creates a 23% margin The hidden costs of procurement most designers ignore How time, freight, damages, storage, and admin eat into profit Why many design firms are unknowingly subsidizing procurement with design fees What “minimum viable markup” means Why Michelle recommends a minimum 75% markup How vendor relationships can improve your margins Why charging correctly improves the client experience The emotional side of raising prices How pricing acts as a filter for better-fit clients Why profitability creates freedom, flexibility, and sustainability Key Takeaways Procurement Is Not Free Every item you source requires labor, communication, coordination, tracking, problem-solving, and risk management. If your markup does not account for those operational costs, your firm absorbs them. Markup and Margin Are Not the Same A 30% markup does not equal a 30% profit margin. Example: Wholesale Cost: $1,000 Selling Price at 30% Markup: $1,300 Actual Margin: 23% That difference matters more than most designers realize. Design Firms Are Running Two Businesses You are both: A service business (design expertise) A retail business (product procurement and sales) If your product pricing is too low, your design fees end up subsidizing your retail operations. Your Pricing Impacts Your Client Experience Underpricing creates stress, overwhelm, and operational strain. Profitability allows you to: Hire support Improve systems Deliver a better client experience Protect your energy and creativity Michelle’s Recommended Pricing Structure Michelle recommends designers move away from cost plus 30% and instead consider: Higher product markups (often 75% minimum) Procurement management fees Passing receiver/storage/delivery costs to clients Stronger vendor relationships to improve buying power Mentioned in This Episode Private coaching through The Profit Mixer procurement and pricing tool Interior Design Business Bakery coaching program Connect with Michelle Subscribe & Review If this episode helped shift the way you think about pricing and profitability, share it with another designer and leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Ep 224: Intention Behind Design: Interview with Kate Vitale
05/04/2026
Ep 224: Intention Behind Design: Interview with Kate Vitale
In this episode, Michelle sits down with Kate Vitale, founder of Vitale Interiors, to explore the intersection of interior design, wellness, and intuition. With a background in corporate fashion and trend forecasting, Kate brings a unique perspective to creating spaces that feel grounded, calming, and deeply personal. They dive into what “interior wellness” actually looks like in practice, how designers can better listen to what clients aren’t saying, and the realities of building a creative business—from confidence challenges to finding community. This conversation is equal parts design philosophy, business growth, and personal evolution. Kate Vitale is the founder of Vitale Interiors, a Long Island based interior design studio known for blending timeless style with a sense of calm and groundedness. Formerly a fashion executive, Kate brings an intuitive approach to design, carrying with her a refined instinct for what feels both current and enduring. Vitale Interiors is celebrated for its textural, nature-rooted approach to elevated living - layering natural materials, classic elements, and wellness-driven principles to create elevated spaces that feel like home. She helps clients tune into what they really want, beyond trends or expectations, and create spaces that reflect them on every level. What You’ll Learn in This Episode What “interior wellness” really means (beyond buzzwords and trends) How textures, color, and layout subtly impact how we feel in a space Why clients often communicate their needs indirectly—and how to listen for it The truth about trends in interior design (and why they’re not as fleeting as you think) How Kate transitioned from corporate fashion to running her own design studio The role intuition plays in both design decisions and client relationships The confidence shifts required when stepping into leadership as a business owner Why community and support are essential when growing a creative business Key Takeaways Design is more than visual—it’s emotional. The way a space is layered, textured, and arranged directly affects how people feel, even if they can’t articulate why. Clients don’t always say what they need—but they show you. Pay attention to the underlying meaning behind comments like “we never use this room” or “something feels off.” Trends aren’t the enemy. Unlike fast fashion, interior design trends evolve slowly—often lasting 15–20 years when applied thoughtfully. Confidence is built through doing. Learning to trust your vision (and not over-deliver unnecessary options) is a key shift in becoming a strong designer. Building a business is personal growth work. Entrepreneurship will surface new challenges—and new levels of self-awareness. Notable Moments Kate’s perspective on balancing aesthetics with emotional impact The story behind her shift from fashion to interiors during COVID A candid conversation about confidence, client presentations, and over-delivering Michelle and Kate discussing how design decisions influence connection within a home The importance of intentionality—in both life and business About Kate Vitale Kate Vitale is the founder of Vitale Interiors, a Long Island-based design studio known for creating timeless, grounded spaces rooted in nature and wellness. With a background in fashion and trend forecasting, she blends intuition with strategy to design homes that reflect her clients on a deeper level. Resources & Mentions The Book Thief by Markus Zusak Tiny Beautiful Things by Cheryl Strayed A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith Connect with Kate Instagram (Personal): @katevitale_ Instagram (Business): @vitaleinteriors Want to work with Michelle? Email our team at to learn more about coaching opportunities like Kate experienced. Loved This Episode? If this episode resonated with you, share it with a fellow designer and leave a review. It helps more creatives discover the show and grow their businesses with intention.
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Ep 223: Profit Isn't An Accident Series - You're Billing. So Why Aren't You Profitable?
04/28/2026
Ep 223: Profit Isn't An Accident Series - You're Billing. So Why Aren't You Profitable?
Most interior designers think they have a revenue problem… when they actually have a tracking problem. In this kickoff episode of the Profit Isn’t an Accident mini-series, Michelle Lynne pulls back the curtain on what’s really happening inside your projects financially—and why “busy” doesn’t always mean “profitable.” If you’ve ever wrapped a project and hoped you made money (instead of knowing), this episode will hit home. Michelle shares a behind-the-scenes story from her own business that reveals how small, overlooked gaps in procurement tracking can quietly drain thousands from your bottom line. This isn’t about working harder or booking more projects. It’s about building systems that give you clarity, confidence, and control over your profit. What You’ll Learn Why revenue isn’t the problem (and why more projects won’t fix profitability) The critical difference between having your books done vs. actually knowing your numbers Where profit is really won or lost (hint: it’s not at the project level) The biggest hidden profit leaks in interior design firms: Reselects and revisions that never get rebilled Freight and receiving costs that quietly get absorbed Vendor payment timing mistakes “Shadow items” that never make it into your financials Why spreadsheets eventually break down as your firm grows How fragmented systems create errors, double entry, and lost profit The power of real-time procurement tracking (vs. after-the-fact reconciliation) The mindset shift from “designer who runs a business” → “business owner who designs” Key Takeaways Profit isn’t something you feel—it’s something you track. If your margins are leaking, more volume just creates a bigger leak. The real problem isn’t mindset—it’s systems and visibility. Item-level tracking is the only way to truly understand profitability. Clarity in your numbers creates confidence in your decisions—and more freedom in your creative work. A Story You Won’t Forget Michelle shares a pivotal moment from her “chaos era,” when two team members gave conflicting answers about the same project’s financials. That disconnect revealed a deeper issue: 👉 Multiple systems 👉 No single source of truth 👉 Money slipping through the cracks That moment led to a complete overhaul of her procurement and tracking systems—and ultimately changed how she runs her business. Action Steps If you do nothing else, do this: 1. Audit Your Last Project Can you clearly see your margin line by line? Not just total profit—but furniture, freight, custom, etc. 2. Map Your Current System Where does procurement live? Is it connected to billing? Are you entering data in multiple places? 3. Identify the Gap If you can’t easily answer these questions, that’s your opportunity. Mindset Shift “Clarity on the business side creates space on the creative side.” You don’t need to become an accountant. But you do need to be the person who insists on knowing what’s happening financially in your business. Resource Mentioned Michelle introduces The Profit Mixer—an all-in-one system designed specifically for interior designers to manage: Procurement Project management Proposals & purchase orders Financial tracking & reporting Including her proprietary 16-step project process to protect profit at every stage. Learn more: thedesignbakehouse.com/profit-mixer What’s Next Next episode: The Markup Myth — Why “cost + 30%” isn’t a real pricing strategy (and what to do instead) Share the Episode Know a designer who’s busy but not seeing the profit they expected? Send this episode their way—it might be the shift they’ve been needing.
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Ep 222: Scaling Smart: Hiring For Profit, Not Just Capacity
04/20/2026
Ep 222: Scaling Smart: Hiring For Profit, Not Just Capacity
Hiring feels like a milestone—but what happens after you bring someone on is where the real work begins. In this episode, Michelle sits down with Erika Bonnell, Melissa Lee, and Ruth Ann Jansen for an honest conversation about what it actually looks like to grow a team inside a design firm. From hiring the wrong role to realizing leadership is a learned skill, this conversation pulls back the curtain on scaling a business in a way that’s both profitable and sustainable. If you’ve ever thought, “I just need to hire someone and everything will feel easier,” this episode will give you a much more grounded (and useful) perspective. What You’ll Learn Why hiring doesn’t automatically fix overwhelm The biggest misconception designers have about growing a team How to determine who you actually need to hire (hint: it’s often not a junior designer) The difference between managing people vs. leading them Why more team members ≠ more profit How to think about scaling based on your desired lifestyle, not industry expectations When to hire vs. outsource vs. use contractors (1099s) What roles actually “move the needle” in a design firm Why operations hires are often the most impactful How to measure if a team member is truly contributing financially The role AI is starting to play in design firms (and hiring decisions) Why tracking time is critical—even if you charge flat fees How to avoid costly hiring mistakes Key Takeaways 1. You might be hiring the wrong role. Many designers think they need a junior designer—but what they actually need is administrative or operational support. 2. Hiring creates new problems (not just solutions). Managing people, training, and leadership all require time and energy—often more than expected. 3. Smaller teams can be more profitable. Scaling down doesn’t mean failure. It can mean better margins, less stress, and more intentional growth. 4. Operations support is often the biggest game-changer. Getting procurement, invoicing, and admin off your plate frees you up to design and generate revenue. 5. Hire for values, not just skill. Skills can be taught. Cultural fit and alignment are what make team members stay and thrive. 6. Not every season requires full-time hires. Contractors, freelancers, and outsourcing can reduce risk and increase flexibility. 7. You need financial clarity before hiring. Understand how a role contributes to revenue—or how it frees you up to generate more. 8. AI is shifting how firms operate. From client communication to renderings to internal systems, AI is reducing admin load—but requires intentional implementation. 9. Time tracking is non-negotiable. Even experienced firms are surprised by how long projects actually take—and that data is critical for pricing. 10. Business first, always. You can care deeply about your team—but not at the expense of the health of your business. Notable Quotes “Hiring someone does not automatically fix the overwhelm.” “Sometimes you don’t actually need the role you think you need.” “Smaller does not mean less profitable.” “People don’t follow managers. They follow leaders.” “Find your zone of genius—and build around it.” “Nobody will care about your business as much as you do.” Practical Next Steps If you’re wondering whether it’s time to hire: List out everything you want off your plate Identify patterns (admin vs. design vs. operations) Decide what actually drives revenue Run the numbers before hiring Consider outsourcing before committing to full-time Final Advice from the Panel Erika Bonnell - Erika Bonnell Interiors Hire to free up revenue-generating time—and let go quickly if it’s not workingt Melissa Lee - New South Home Interiors Align hires with your long-term vision and strengths Ruth Ann - The Dove Agency https://www.thedoveagency.com/: Scope the role clearly and track profitability from day one Closing Thought There is no one “right” way to build a team. The best business model is the one that supports your goals, your lifestyle, and your definition of success.
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Ep 221: Why You’re Not Making Money on Furnishings (Even When You Think You Are)
04/13/2026
Ep 221: Why You’re Not Making Money on Furnishings (Even When You Think You Are)
Furnishings should be one of the most profitable parts of your interior design business—but for many designers, it feels like the exact opposite. In this episode, Michelle pulls back the curtain on what’s really happening behind the scenes with furniture and procurement. From underpriced markups to disorganized systems and hidden time drains, she breaks down why your margins might look fine on paper… but still leave you feeling overwhelmed and underpaid. If procurement feels like it’s running you instead of supporting your business, this conversation will help you rethink your pricing, your process, and your role as a designer. What You’ll Learn Why furnishings are not a transaction—but a full process The biggest mistake designers make when pricing furniture What’s actually included in procurement (hint: it’s a LOT more than you think) Why a 30% markup is outdated—and what to consider instead How underpricing happens gradually (even when you think you’re doing it right) The hidden cost of disorganized systems and double entry Why raising your markup alone won’t fix profitability How to shift from “order taker” to trusted expert The power of presenting a complete design vs. individual pieces Two common patterns designers fall into (and how to break them) Key Takeaways 1. Procurement is a Process, Not a Line Item Sourcing, quoting, ordering, tracking, receiving, managing damages, and client communication—procurement includes far more than just buying furniture. 2. Your Markup Must Reflect Reality If you’re still using cost-plus 30%, you’re likely undercharging. Your pricing should account for your time, expertise, and responsibility—not just the product. 3. Disorganization is Expensive Spreadsheets, inbox tracking, and disconnected systems create inefficiencies, errors, and unnecessary labor costs. 4. You’re Not a Personal Shopper Presenting one item at a time positions you as a vendor. Presenting a full design positions you as the expert. 5. Profit Comes from Structure + Pricing You can’t fix a broken process with higher prices. Real profitability happens when your systems and pricing work together. Signs Your Procurement Process Needs Work You feel constantly “on” managing orders and updates You’re tracking items in your inbox, head, or spreadsheets Projects feel chaotic behind the scenes Your profit doesn’t match the effort you’re putting in You avoid furnishings altogether to reduce stress Michelle’s Perspective There’s no single “right” pricing model—but there is a wrong one: Any structure that doesn’t properly compensate you for your time, energy, and responsibility Minimum suggested markup on wholesale furnishings: 75%+ Procurement, when structured correctly, becomes a scalable and repeatable profit center Tools & Resources Mentioned Profit Mixer – A project management and financial system designed specifically for interior designers Combines procurement tracking + financial data Eliminates double entry between systems Provides real-time visibility into project profitability 16-Step Project Management Framework Michelle’s complete process from client inquiry to project completion Coaching Options VIP Intensives 90-Day Advisory Learn more at: Coming Next Week Michelle shares a special panel conversation from High Point Market on: Hiring for Profit (Not Just Growth) You’ll learn: What it actually costs to hire How to know if a hire supports revenue Lessons learned (the hard way) from experienced design firm owners
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Ep 220: Why Your Construction Projects Aren’t Profitable (Even When the Budget Is High)
04/06/2026
Ep 220: Why Your Construction Projects Aren’t Profitable (Even When the Budget Is High)
Construction projects often look like the most profitable work in an interior design business—but behind the scenes, they’re where many designers are the most underpaid. In this episode, Michelle breaks down the hidden disconnect between what designers charge and what construction projects actually require. From the constant decision-making to the mental load that never turns off, she reveals why traditional pricing models fall short—and what needs to shift. If you’ve ever felt busy, overwhelmed, or undercompensated during a renovation or new build, this episode will help you understand why—and what to do about it. What You’ll Learn Why construction projects feel profitable—but often aren’t The hidden responsibilities designers take on during construction The difference between renovation (reactive) vs. new build (proactive) projects Where pricing structures typically break down The real cost of underpricing construction administration How “emotional pricing” quietly hurts your business Why raising your prices alone won’t fix the problem What it actually means to align your pricing with your role Key Takeaways Construction projects don’t just scale in size—they scale in responsibility. As the project grows, so does your mental load, decision-making, and ongoing involvement. Renovations and new builds are not the same. Renovations = reactive, unpredictable, fast decision-making New builds = proactive, structured, vision-driven You’re not just designing—you’re leading. During construction, you become the interpreter, problem-solver, and decision-maker for everyone involved. Flat fees often fail mid-project. What felt like a solid number at the beginning rarely reflects the true scope as the project evolves. Construction administration is not a “small add-on.” It’s a major, time-consuming, high-responsibility phase that deserves its own pricing structure. If your structure is broken, raising prices won’t fix it. You’ll just charge more for the same exhausting experience. Common Pricing Mistakes Pricing based on initial scope without accounting for project evolution Underestimating time, interruptions, and mental energy Including construction administration inside the design fee Making pricing decisions based on what feels “comfortable” Keeping fees fixed even as responsibilities expand Mindset Shift Stop asking: “What feels fair?” Start asking: “What does this role actually require of me?” Because strong pricing isn’t about feelings—it’s about alignment between your responsibility and your compensation. What to Do Instead Separate design and construction phases clearly Define and charge for construction administration Build structure and boundaries into your process Track your time and analyze where your effort is going Price based on responsibility—not just deliverables Final Thought Construction projects aren’t just bigger—they’re heavier. And when your pricing finally reflects that, everything changes: your profitability, your energy, and your life outside the business. What’s Next Next week’s episode dives into furnishings and decorating pricing—and where designers are leaving even more money on the table. Share the Episode Know a designer who’s deep in construction projects and feeling stretched thin? Share this episode with them—it might be exactly what they need to hear. Resources Mentioned Design Revenue Audit A diagnostic deep dive into the financial structure of your design firm, including pricing, procurement, and operational profitability. 90-Day Advisory Private strategic advisory focused on restructuring the revenue side of your design business. VIP Intensive A focused strategy session designed to map out the most efficient path toward a more profitable firm. Learn more at:
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Ep 219: From Inquiry to Contract: The Missing System in Your Design Business
03/30/2026
Ep 219: From Inquiry to Contract: The Missing System in Your Design Business
What if the reason your inquiries aren’t turning into clients has nothing to do with your talent… and everything to do with what happens in between? In this episode, Michelle Lynne breaks down the exact gap most interior designers don’t realize they have: the missing sales process between inquiry and signature. Through real stories from her own business, she shares how “being easy to work with” was actually costing her clients, confidence, and contracts. From over-delivering on discovery calls to second-guessing every follow-up, Michelle walks you through what it really looks like when there’s no system in place—and how everything changes when there is. This episode will help you understand why clarity creates conversions, how to lead client conversations without feeling salesy, and why your sales process is not just about closing—but about protecting your business from the wrong clients. If you’ve ever had a “this felt like a yes… so why didn’t they sign?” moment—this one is for you. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: - Why conversations that feel good in the moment don’t always convert - The real reason clients “need to think about it” - How over-explaining and over-giving creates confusion (not trust) - Why “being nice” can actually cost you the sale - The difference between reacting vs. leading on client calls - How a sales process creates confidence—for both you and your client - Why clarity is the most powerful sales tool you have - How a structured process filters out the wrong clients before they ever sign - The hidden cost of letting the wrong clients into your business - Why every part of your business needs a process—especially sales Key Takeaways: You don’t need to become someone you’re not to sell well. You don’t need scripts that feel stiff or tactics that feel pushy. But you do need a clear, repeatable process that guides your clients from inquiry to decision. Because without it, you’re not leading—you’re reacting. And when you’re reacting, your business becomes inconsistent, unpredictable, and harder to grow. A strong sales process doesn’t just help you close the right clients. It protects you from the wrong ones. And that changes everything. Mentioned in This Episode: Design Revenue Audit Private Coaching Follow Along: Instagram If This Episode Resonated: Take five minutes today and map out your current sales process. What happens when someone inquires? What is the next step? And the next? And the next? Because this part of your business is too important to wing.
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Ep 218: The Client Red Flags Costing Designers Thousands (And How to Catch Them Early)
03/23/2026
Ep 218: The Client Red Flags Costing Designers Thousands (And How to Catch Them Early)
The Client Red Flags Costing Designers Thousands (And How to Catch Them Early)Designed for the Creative Mind Podcast You can have incredible talent, a full calendar, and stunning projects—and still feel like your business is harder than it should be. In this episode of Design for the Creative Mind, we’re diving into one of the most overlooked reasons interior designers struggle with profitability and burnout: saying yes to the wrong clients. Because the truth is, not every client is an opportunity. Some are a liability. And the real problem? Most designers don’t realize it until they’re already deep into the project. Michelle shares real client stories and hard-earned lessons from her own firm to help you recognize red flags earlier, protect your time and energy, and build a design business that actually works for you—not against you. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why being a talented designer doesn’t automatically make you a profitable business owner The hidden costs of the “wrong” client (that don’t show up on an invoice) How early-stage client decisions impact your entire project—and your capacity The difference between trusting your gut vs. relying on a structured sales process Why your client selection process is just as important as your pricing or marketing Key Takeaways 1. Not every client is the right client Early in your business, every project feels like a win. But as you grow, discernment becomes critical. Some clients will cost you more in time, energy, and stress than they’re worth financially. 2. Misalignment shows up early—if you know where to look From budget disconnects to decision-making habits, your sales process should help you identify red flags before the contract is signed. 3. Budget vs. vision misalignment is not a sourcing problem—it’s a clarity problem Trying to “make it work” for a client with champagne taste and a beer budget only creates friction, revisions, and distrust later. 4. Decision paralysis slows everything down A client who struggles to make decisions early in the process will continue that pattern throughout the project—impacting timelines, team capacity, and overall momentum. 5. Procurement needs clear boundaries When clients are involved in sourcing and purchasing, it creates confusion, delays, and lack of accountability—ultimately affecting your ability to deliver results. 6. Boundaries must be process-driven, not personality-driven Being “always available” doesn’t make you a better designer—it creates unsustainable expectations. Clear communication standards should be built into your process. 7. Process creates predictability When you rely on emotion, your business feels inconsistent. When you rely on process, your business becomes stable, scalable, and easier to manage. Red Flags to Watch for During Your Sales Process Clients whose budget doesn’t align with their expectations Indecisiveness or hesitation in early conversations Resistance to your guidance or expertise Desire to self-source or “price check” everything Early boundary testing (frequent texts, off-hours communication, etc.) Action Steps Review your current sales process—do you actually have one? Identify where you can better screen for client fit before signing Define clear boundaries around communication and procurement Pay attention to early behaviors—they rarely change later Start treating client selection as a core business skill Resources Mentioned Design Revenue Audit A diagnostic deep dive into the financial structure of your design firm, including pricing, procurement, and operational profitability. 90-Day Advisory Private strategic advisory focused on restructuring the revenue side of your design business. VIP Intensive A focused strategy session designed to map out the most efficient path toward a more profitable firm. Learn more at: What’s Next In the next episode, we’re continuing the conversation on profitability by breaking down why so many interior designers are underpricing their services—and how to start correcting it.
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Ep 217: Booked Solid...But Where's the Profit? The Interior Designer's Hidden Business Problem
03/16/2026
Ep 217: Booked Solid...But Where's the Profit? The Interior Designer's Hidden Business Problem
Why Busy Designers Still Struggle With Profitability Designed for the Creative Mind Podcast Interior design is one of the few professions where it’s incredibly easy to build a business that looks successful on the outside but quietly struggles behind the scenes. Beautiful projects. High-end homes. A full calendar. And yet the numbers still feel tighter than they should. In this episode, Michelle Lynne pulls back the curtain on a common issue she sees when auditing interior design firms: businesses that have grown busy but were never intentionally structured to be profitable. If you’ve ever looked at your workload and wondered why the revenue doesn’t reflect the level of effort going into your projects, this conversation will help you understand why. Michelle shares her own experience running a seven-figure design firm, the moment she realized revenue alone didn’t equal success, and the structural issues that quietly erode profitability in many design businesses. This episode is about stepping back from the day-to-day hustle and evaluating the foundation of the business itself. In This Episode You’ll learn: • Why interior design businesses often evolve into busy but poorly structured firms • The difference between revenue and true profitability • How underpricing, thin procurement margins, and unpaid project management quietly erode income • Why many designers underestimate the time required to deliver a project • The role emotional labor plays in designer burnout • The three numbers every design firm should track to understand financial performance • How improving your business structure can be more impactful than simply getting more clients Key Takeaway Busy is not a business model. A profitable design firm is built through intentional structure: pricing, procurement strategy, time awareness, and clear operational boundaries. Once the business is designed with the same level of intention as the projects themselves, the entire experience of running a design firm can change. Resources Mentioned Design Revenue Audit A diagnostic deep dive into the financial structure of your design firm, including pricing, procurement, and operational profitability. 90-Day Advisory Private strategic advisory focused on restructuring the revenue side of your design business. VIP Intensive A focused strategy session designed to map out the most efficient path toward a more profitable firm. Learn more at: Next Episode Next week’s episode explores client red flags that can cost interior designers thousands of dollars before a project even begins, and how to identify those warning signs early.
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Ep 216: The $50K Hiding Inside Your Design Process
03/09/2026
Ep 216: The $50K Hiding Inside Your Design Process
Episode Description Most interior designers assume they need more clients, more marketing, or higher design fees to increase their income. But often the real issue is something much simpler. Their process. In this episode, Michelle Lynne breaks down where interior design firms quietly lose money through unstructured discovery, unlimited revisions, procurement administration, underpriced phases, and furniture margins that are far too small. These “small” decisions can easily add up to $30,000–$50,000 or more in lost revenue each year. The good news is that fixing these leaks doesn’t require more clients or more work. It requires a better structured process. Michelle walks through the most common revenue leaks she sees when reviewing design firms and explains how a few strategic adjustments can dramatically improve profitability. If you’ve ever felt busy but underpaid, this episode will likely show you exactly why. In This Episode • Why most interior designers don’t actually have a pricing problem • How unstructured discovery quietly costs designers hours of unpaid work • The real financial impact of unlimited revisions • Why procurement administration is one of the most misunderstood parts of design • The difference between furniture markup vs margin • Why a 42% furniture margin should be the minimum standard • How scope creep disguises itself as “good client service” • Why designers often underprice concept development and vendor coordination • The missing project management phase many designers forget to charge for • How small process adjustments can add $39,000+ in recovered revenue Today’s Episode Covers The Hidden Revenue Inside Your Process Many designers believe growth comes from adding more projects. But often the fastest way to increase income is simply tightening the process around the work you are already doing. Michelle explains how design firms frequently absorb work unintentionally through discovery calls, revisions, and project coordination. The Furniture Margin Mistake Costing Designers Thousands One of the largest revenue leaks Michelle sees is incorrect furniture pricing. Many designers sell furnishings at cost plus 20–30%, which results in extremely small margins. In this episode, Michelle explains why profitable design firms typically maintain a minimum 42% margin (about a 75% markup) and how that margin supports procurement labor, risk, and operational infrastructure. Scope Creep Disguised as “Client Service” Interior designers naturally want their clients to feel supported. But when boundaries aren’t clearly defined, designers often absorb additional work in the name of service. Michelle explains why defining phases, deliverables, meetings, and revision limits protects both the client experience and the designer’s income. The Small Process Adjustments That Change Everything Michelle walks through a simple example showing how three small adjustments can dramatically improve revenue: • Paid strategic planning phase • Structured revision cycles • Procurement or project management fees Together, those changes alone can add nearly $40,000 in revenue annually without adding more clients. Links Mentioned in This Episode Design Revenue Audit Find the $50K hiding inside your process: Lead Lab Private Coaching Instagram About the Host Michelle Lynne is the founder of ML Interiors Group and The Design Bakehouse, where she helps interior designers build profitable, sustainable businesses. Through her design firm and coaching programs, Michelle works with designers across the U.S. and internationally to refine pricing, process, and business structure. Her work has been featured in Forbes, Martha Stewart, Southern Living, Apartment Therapy, The Spruce, Modern Luxury, Luxe Interiors + Design, Dallas Morning News, and This Old House. Subscribe & Review If you enjoyed this episode, make sure you’re subscribed to Designed for the Creative Mind so you never miss a conversation about the business side of interior design. And if this episode helped you rethink your pricing, process, or profitability, leaving a quick review helps other designers discover the show.
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EP 215: The Real Reason Your Marketing Disappears When You Get Busy
03/02/2026
EP 215: The Real Reason Your Marketing Disappears When You Get Busy
WHY YOUR MARKETING DISAPPEARS WHEN YOU GET BUSY There’s a lot of advice out there about getting more leads and increasing your visibility. But almost nobody talks about what happens after real life gets busy. If your marketing disappears during install weeks, deadlines, or full client schedules, you’re not alone. Most interior designers rely on motivation and inspiration to stay visible, and that approach almost always leads to inconsistency. In this episode, Michelle Lynne shares how she markets her own design firm even during busy seasons. Instead of relying on inspiration, she uses a simple monthly planning system that keeps her business visible even when her schedule is full. You’ll hear how marketing at ML Interiors Group is planned a month in advance, how blog content, Pinterest, and social media work together, and why pre-scheduling content removes the daily pressure to come up with something to post. Michelle also explains how the same system powers Lead Lab PLUS, where designers get access to the exact marketing plans used inside ML Interiors Group. If your marketing disappears every time life gets busy, this episode will help you build a system that keeps working anyway. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN - Why motivation is a terrible marketing strategy - The real reason marketing becomes inconsistent - How creative professionals accidentally make marketing too complicated - How to plan a full month of marketing at one time - Why blog content should anchor your marketing plan - How Pinterest and social media support long-form content - How pre-scheduling removes daily marketing pressure - What stable marketing actually looks like in a real design firm RESOURCES MENTIONED Done-For-You Monthly Marketing Content (MARCH 2026): The Design Bakehouse Shoppe (for future content and other cool things): Lead Lab Private Coaching & Mentorship Sidemark Marketing Platform CONNECT WITH MICHELLE LYNNE The Design Bakehouse ML Interiors Group Instagram Podcast Designed for the Creative Mind IF YOU ENJOYED THIS EPISODE If this episode helped you think differently about marketing, be sure to subscribe and share it with another interior designer who wants more consistent leads without more daily marketing pressure.
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EP 214: You Wanted More Leads. Now What?
02/23/2026
EP 214: You Wanted More Leads. Now What?
You worked hard to get the lead. You posted. You showed up. You marketed consistently. And now your phone is ringing. So why aren’t more of those inquiries turning into paying clients? In this episode, we’re talking about the part nobody glamorizes in the interior design business: what happens after the inquiry. Because getting leads is not the win. Converting them is. If you’re booking discovery calls but hearing: “We’re going to think about it.” “We’re talking to a few designers.” “Can you send over pricing?” Then this episode is for you. Inside, I’m breaking down: Why inquiries are not the same as income The biggest mistakes designers make on consultation calls How free brainstorming sessions are quietly killing your conversions Why lack of structure creates hesitation What a professional intake and consult process actually looks like How to confidently close without sounding pushy Marketing gets them in the door. Process gets them to sign. If you want to build a repeatable client pipeline instead of constantly chasing the next lead, start here. To tighten your marketing and conversion process, explore: Lead Lab Essentials: Lead Lab PLUS: Stop asking how to get more leads. Start asking what you’re doing once they call. __________________ RESOURCES: MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands-on visibility program, no contract, only $59/month or our new PLUS level for done-for-you marketing for $179/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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Ep 213: If Your Leads Are Price Shopping, You're Teaching Them To
02/18/2026
Ep 213: If Your Leads Are Price Shopping, You're Teaching Them To
If you’re constantly getting inquiries that sound like this… “How much do you charge?” “Can you give me a ballpark?” “What do you charge per room?” You’re not alone. And no, it doesn’t automatically mean your leads are cheap. In this episode, we’re getting real about why price shopping leads keep showing up in your inbox, and the uncomfortable truth most designers don’t want to admit: If your leads are price shopping, your marketing is teaching them to. Because when your messaging is vague, your process isn’t clear, and your content only shows the finished product, clients don’t understand what they’re actually hiring you for. So they default to the only thing they can compare: price. In this episode, I’m breaking down: Why clients ask about pricing so early (and why it’s not personal) The biggest marketing mistakes that attract price-first inquiries How to educate potential clients through your marketing without sounding snobby or defensive What to change on your website, Instagram, and inquiry process so your leads come in pre-qualified How to position yourself as the expert so pricing becomes part of the conversation, not the first question If you want better leads, higher-end clients, and inquiries that sound like “we want to hire you,” instead of “what’s your hourly rate?” this episode is your wake-up call. Because the goal isn’t to convince people you’re worth it. The goal is to market in a way that makes the right clients already know you are. Ready to fix your marketing? Check out Lead Lab Essentials and Lead Lab PLUS (linked below) to get the structure, strategy, and support you need to stop winging your marketing and start attracting clients who are ready to book. RESOURCES: MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands-on visibility program, no contract, only $59/month or our new PLUS level for done-for-you marketing for $179/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S8 Ep.212 From MTV to High Point: How Rhobin DelaCruz Built a Design Career by Design
02/09/2026
S8 Ep.212 From MTV to High Point: How Rhobin DelaCruz Built a Design Career by Design
In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with interior designer, creative instigator, and community builder Rhobin DelaCruz. Rhobin has worked with brands like GQ, TED, and MTV, but what really stands out is how intentionally he approaches both design and business. From the way he talks about community to how he shows up at High Point Market, everything he does is rooted in purpose, clarity, and connection. This conversation covers a lot of ground—from career pivots to nonprofit work—and it’s one of those episodes that reminds you how powerful design can really be. In this episode, we talk about: How the Design Besties were formed and how a simple group chat turned into a mission-driven nonprofit Why transforming teachers’ lounges became the heart of the Design Besties’ work and the unexpected emotional impact of their first project How thoughtful, well-designed spaces can support wellness, leadership, and community within schools What it means to be named a High Point Style Spotter and how Rhobin approaches that role Rhobin’s unconventional path from advertising and MTV into interior design The reality of gatekeeping in the design industry and how community has shifted in recent years Why investing in business coaching and showing up at market with intention changed the trajectory of his career I loved this conversation because Rhobin is so honest about both the challenges and the wins. His story is a reminder that careers don’t have to be linear, community really does matter, and when you lead with intention, the opportunities tend to follow. I hope this episode leaves you feeling inspired to take up space, connect more deeply, and build something meaningful in your own work. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on visibility program, no contract, only $59/month or our new PLUS level for done-for-you marketing for $179/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S8 Ep. 211 From Design to Staging: The Income Stream You’re Missing with Guest Marianna Cherico
02/02/2026
S8 Ep. 211 From Design to Staging: The Income Stream You’re Missing with Guest Marianna Cherico
In this episode of Designed for the Creative Mind, Michelle sits down with home staging coach Marianne Cherico to explore how staging can become a powerful extension of an interior design business. With decades of experience in real estate and staging, Marianne shares practical strategies for building relationships with real estate agents, shifting mindset, and positioning staging as an investment rather than a luxury. You’ll learn how designers can diversify income streams, stand out in a competitive market, and communicate value in a way that attracts long-term clients and referrals. Whether you’re new to staging or looking to refine your approach, this conversation is packed with actionable insights and real-world experience. Marianne's freebie is 3 Steps to Fully Book Consults with Agent Referrals - RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S8 Ep.210 When Design, Wellness, and Leadership Collide with Natalie Froom
01/26/2026
S8 Ep.210 When Design, Wellness, and Leadership Collide with Natalie Froom
In this episode of Designed for the Creative Mind, I’m sitting down with Natalie Froom, founder and principal designer of Studio 180 Design. Natalie and I go way back—she came through the Interior Design Business Bakery shortly after the pandemic, back when she lovingly calls herself a “baby designer.” Fast forward to now, and she’s running a growing studio with a team, a refined process, and big plans for the future. This conversation is one of those full-circle moments I absolutely love. We talk about how Natalie’s background in psychology and nutrition led her to interior design, how wellness and environment are deeply connected, and how her business (and confidence) evolved over time. If you’re a designer who’s still figuring out your niche, your process, or your next level—this one is for you. In This Episode, We Talk About: How Natalie’s background in psychology, nutrition, and wellness naturally led her into interior design The connection between mental, physical, and environmental wellbeing (and why it matters in design) Finding your niche by doing the work—and letting your projects guide you Why Natalie focuses on busy, high-level professionals who want a true turnkey experience The importance of process over “just talent” when growing a design business How collaboration (not competition) elevates design and the industry as a whole Balancing beauty with practicality—creating homes that are both elevated and livable Why Natalie believes personality matters more than a rigid design “style” Growing from a solo designer into a team-based, scalable business Looking ahead: international growth, team expansion, and better work-life balance Natalie’s journey is such a powerful reminder that you don’t have to have everything figured out on day one. Your niche can evolve. Your process can be refined. Your vision can grow bigger than you ever imagined. What matters most is building a solid foundation, staying open to learning, and allowing yourself to grow into the designer—and business owner—you’re meant to be. If you’ve ever felt like you were “behind,” unsure of your style, or still finding your footing, I really think this episode will resonate with you. Watching Natalie step into her confidence, refine her process, and build a business that truly supports her life is exactly why I do this work. This conversation is proof that when you focus on process, collaboration, and intention, growth follows—both creatively and professionally. If this episode sparked something for you, I’d love for you to reflect on where you are in your own journey and what your next evolution might look like. Fix the Leaks: The Hidden Places Your Business Is Quietly Losing Time & Money How to Price Your Design Services with Confidence More about Natalie: Design is Natalie's lifelong passion, where crafting exquisite interiors is an art of precision. Beyond aesthetics, her journey has honed top-tier communication, mediation, and organizational skills. Multitasking is second nature, orchestrating projects with intricate moving parts. Exceeding expectations is the norm, achieved with a proficient, trustworthy team. This commitment to excellence is why Studio 180 Design has proudly earned multiple Houzz awards for exceptional client experience. This is the essence of Studio 180 Design - where meticulous details converge to craft exceptional RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S8 Ep.209 How Smart Designers Use Paid Ads to Stay Fully Booked with Shelby Fowler
01/19/2026
S8 Ep.209 How Smart Designers Use Paid Ads to Stay Fully Booked with Shelby Fowler
In today’s episode of Designed for the Creative Mind, I’m sitting down with Shelby Fowler Moss to talk about something that makes a lot of designers nervous: paid ads. Shelby is a paid ad strategist and sales expert who’s helped businesses generate tens of millions of dollars through advertising, and she brings a refreshingly honest, no-fluff perspective to this conversation. If you’ve ever felt like paid ads are risky, confusing, or something only “big businesses” can afford, this episode is for you. Shelby and I break down what actually makes ads work, why so many business owners get burned by agencies, and how designers can think about ads in a smarter, more sustainable way—without gambling their money or chasing vanity metrics. We dig into what success with paid ads really looks like, why understanding the lifetime value of a client is critical before you ever spend a dollar, and how ads should be viewed as a long-term investment rather than a quick win. Shelby also shares why most agencies fail to clearly define success, how business owners can protect themselves, and what designers need to know even if they plan to outsource their ads. One of my favorite parts of this conversation is Shelby’s concept of “digital billboards” for local businesses. We talk specifically about how interior designers can use simple Meta ads on Facebook and Instagram to stay top of mind in the right zip codes, instead of wasting money on traditional local advertising that often ends up in the trash. If you’ve ever advertised in a neighborhood magazine and wondered if anyone actually saw it, this will hit home. Shelby also walks us through her “attract, demonstrate, sell” framework and explains why showing your work, your process, and your personality builds far more trust than simply saying you’re the best. We talk about creative fatigue, why video matters, and how designers can position themselves as the go-to expert in their market without needing massive budgets or complicated funnels. This episode is a must-listen if you want to understand paid ads without the hype, learn how to think like an investor instead of a gambler, and explore smarter ways to grow your visibility and client base as a creative business owner. If paid advertising has been on your radar but felt overwhelming or intimidating, Shelby brings so much clarity to what actually matters—and what doesn’t. Shelby Fowler-Moss is a paid ads strategist and sales expert who’s helped her clients generate tens of millions of dollars from paid advertising. After running one of the top boutique ad agencies for 7 years, she now teaches entrepreneurs how to think like investors, using ads to build real leverage, not chaos. Her teaching style is straight-talking, high-energy, and rooted in what actually works in today’s market, no fluff, no theory, just strategy that scales. Fix the Leaks: The Hidden Places Your Business Is Quietly Losing Time & Money How to Price Your Design Services with Confidence RESOURCES: Fix the Leaks: The Hidden Places Your Business Is Quietly Losing Time & Money How to Price Your Design Services with Confidence INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S8 Ep.208 Interior Design Biz Ain't for Punks
01/13/2026
S8 Ep.208 Interior Design Biz Ain't for Punks
Building a design business doesn’t happen by accident. In this episode, Melissa Fields shares what it really looked like behind the scenes — undercharging, no process, imposter syndrome, and learning the hard way that being busy doesn’t equal being profitable. From $100 consults to hiring her first employee and stepping fully into the CEO role, this conversation is honest, grounding, and incredibly encouraging for any designer in the “figuring it out” phase. IN THIS EPISODE: How Melissa transitioned from a 20-year military career into interior design Why she started in home staging — and how she knew it wasn’t the right fit The reality of building a portfolio when you don’t have clients or capital How imposter syndrome shows up through undercharging and overworking Why “being busy” doesn’t always mean being profitable The importance of developing a clear process and pricing structure What finally pushed Melissa to invest in business coaching How confidence grows when your skills, systems, and self-trust align This conversation is for designers who know they’re talented but feel stuck — overwhelmed, underpaid, and unsure of how to turn their passion into a sustainable business. Melissa’s story is such a powerful reminder that confidence doesn’t come before action — it’s built through it. If you’ve ever questioned your worth, your pricing, or whether you “belong” in this industry, this episode will meet you right where you are. Melissa Fields is the CEO and Principal Designer of Shades of Gray Design Studio, a boutique interior design firm in San Antonio, Texas. After a 20-year career as an officer in the United States Air Force, Melissa followed her passion for design and built a thriving studio known for its elevated client experience, meticulous attention to detail, and deeply personalized approach to whole-home transformations. Today, Melissa specializes in designing modern, livable, luxury spaces for established homeowners and empty-nesters who want to invest in high-quality, long-term design. Her unique combination of leadership, discipline, and creativity has allowed her to scale her business intentionally while maintaining a high-end, service-driven process. Melissa is passionate about empowering other designers—whether they’re just starting out or well established—to embrace their strengths, trust their creative instincts, and build businesses that reflect their own values. She believes great design changes how people live, and that a strong, well-run design business is just as important as a beautiful final reveal. Fix the Leaks: The Hidden Places Your Business Is Quietly Losing Time & Money How to Price Your Design Services with Confidence RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S8 Ep.207 Lessons From Our Biggest Mistakes
12/31/2025
S8 Ep.207 Lessons From Our Biggest Mistakes
As this year comes to a close, I wanted to have a very honest conversation—one rooted in experience, not perfection. In this episode, I’m reflecting alongside another seasoned firm owner, Katie Decker Erickson, on the mistakes we’ve made, the lessons we learned the hard way, and what actually matters when you’re trying to move your business forward with clarity instead of chaos. This isn’t about beating yourself up for what didn’t work. It’s about looking back clearly—without ego or shame—so you can recalibrate your direction, trust yourself again, and make smarter decisions as you head into 2026. In this episode, I talk about: Why you can’t change direction in your business without honestly looking in the rearview mirror How growing just for the sake of growth often leads to stress, misalignment, and regret Why busyness, headcount, and “looking successful” can hide deeper operational problems The real cost of ignoring your intuition—and why it always shows up eventually How intuition becomes powerful when it’s supported by data, not separated from it Why avoiding your numbers only creates bigger problems down the road What I call the “toll of the soul,” and why some profitable work still isn’t worth it How letting go sooner—clients, projects, models, or people—can lead to faster alignment Why leadership requires hard conversations, not avoidance How reflection is meant to recalibrate your business, not keep you stuck in regret This episode is for designers who know something needs to change—but don’t want to burn everything down to make it happen. My hope is that this conversation helps you look at your business with more honesty, more confidence, and a lot more self-trust as you step into what’s next. You don’t need to have all the answers for 2026 right now. But you do need to be willing to look clearly at where you’ve been—so you can choose where you’re going on purpose. If you’re ready to move forward with clarity instead of guesswork, this episode is for you.
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S7 Ep.206 The Myth That You Need Design School To Succeed In Business
12/22/2025
S7 Ep.206 The Myth That You Need Design School To Succeed In Business
In today’s episode of my MythBuster series, I’m talking about one of the most persistent beliefs in the interior design industry: that you need design school to succeed. This one hits close to home for me, because I didn’t go to design school — and for a long time, I carried that quietly, wondering if it would eventually expose me as someone who didn’t belong. What I’ve learned over the years, though, is that this myth doesn’t just affect designers without formal education. It affects everyone. What I see again and again is this gap — the gap between learning how to design and learning how to run a business. And no matter how you entered this industry, almost every designer hits it eventually. In this episode, I talk about: Why not going to design school does not disqualify you — and why going doesn’t automatically prepare you either The real gap most designers face between creativity and business ownership How education and preparedness are often confused (and why that leads to self-doubt) The emotional weight of business ownership that no one warns designers about Why burnout is usually a systems problem, not a personal failure The identity shift required to move from “designer” to confident business owner At the end of the day, designing beautiful spaces is only part of the job. Running a sustainable interior design business requires an entirely different skill set — one that can be learned intentionally, without shame, and without burning yourself out in the process. If you’ve ever felt like everyone else has a manual you never received, I want you to hear this clearly: you’re not behind, you’re not missing something, and you’re not failing. You’ve simply reached the part of the journey where leadership matters more than talent. If this episode resonated with you, I hope it gives you permission to release the idea that there was one “right” path into this industry. There are just different roads, and they all eventually lead here — to learning how to build a business that supports your life instead of consuming it. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S7 Ep.205 Myth: It’s All About the Money — Clients Just Want to Save Money
12/15/2025
S7 Ep.205 Myth: It’s All About the Money — Clients Just Want to Save Money
In today’s episode, I’m continuing my myth-busting season and tackling one of the biggest beliefs holding designers back: the idea that clients only care about money. If you’ve ever taken pricing questions personally or felt pressure to lower your rates just to keep projects moving, this conversation is for you. I’m breaking down what’s really happening when clients push back on price — and why it’s almost never about trying to save a few dollars. In this episode, I talk about: Why clients aren’t price shoppers — they’re confidence and clarity shoppers How money questions are often a signal of uncertainty, not rejection The real reason designers internalize pricing resistance (and how to stop) What clients are actually buying when they hire a designer Why leadership, process, and clarity matter more than being “competitive” How shifting from price-focused to value-led changes everything in your business At the end of the day, your clients aren’t looking for cheap — they’re looking for smart. They want to feel safe, supported, and confident that they’re making the right decision. When you lead with clarity and step fully into your role as a professional, pricing stops being the problem and starts making sense. If this episode hits home, keep your eyes open for what’s coming next. Inside Back to School and the Interior Design Business Bakery, this is exactly the work we do — helping you communicate your value, own your expertise, and build a business that supports you instead of draining you. Remember: you’re not selling sofas. You’re selling transformation, leadership, and a beautifully guided experience. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S7 Ep.204 The Myth of “Helping People Means Keeping My Prices Low”
12/08/2025
S7 Ep.204 The Myth of “Helping People Means Keeping My Prices Low”
In today’s episode, I’m breaking down a myth that keeps so many designers stuck on the burnout hamster wheel: the belief that “helping people means keeping my prices low.” I see this all the time in our industry — designers who genuinely want to serve end up undercharging, overdelivering, and attracting clients who don’t respect their expertise. And it’s not because they lack talent. It’s because they’ve tied generosity to their pricing instead of their business structure. This entire conversation was sparked by a listener who shared that she gives white-glove service but still charges around $50 a week because she wants to help “real people,” only to attract clients who constantly want more for less. If that hits a little close to home, this episode is going to speak directly to you. In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why lowering your prices does NOT make design more accessible • The real reason undercharging attracts boundary-pushing clients • How money stories and identity beliefs keep designers stuck in the cycle of overgiving • Why “professionals hire professionals” is a mindset shift that changes everything • How low pricing breaks your business model (and your spirit) • What sustainable pricing actually needs to cover in your design studio • Why generosity cannot be your business model — it must be the overflow • How aligning your pricing with your value strengthens confidence, boundaries, and client experiences • What becomes possible once your business is profitable: passion projects, philanthropy, accessibility, and impact • How to begin shifting your identity so you can charge like the professional you already are When you truly understand that your pricing isn’t tied to your worth — and that you can only help people from a place of overflow, not depletion — everything changes. Your energy shifts. Your confidence expands. Your boundaries get stronger. And your clients feel that difference immediately. This episode is an invitation to stop building a business on sacrifice and start building one on sustainability, clarity, and stewardship of your gifts. And if you’re ready to align your pricing with the actual value you provide, the Interior Design Business Bakery is exactly where that work begins. I’ll see you in the next myth-busting conversation. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S7 Ep.203 The Myth of “If My Clients Love Me, They’ll Refer Me”
12/02/2025
S7 Ep.203 The Myth of “If My Clients Love Me, They’ll Refer Me”
Early in my design career, I thought referrals were the ultimate sign of success. A happy client, emotional reveal, or heartfelt thank-you note — surely that meant more business was on the way, right? I quickly learned the truth: referrals are unpredictable behavior, not a reflection of love, skill, or value. In this episode, I’m sharing why relying on referrals alone creates a fragile business and what you can do to build momentum that’s intentional and sustainable. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: • Why referrals are not a love language — they’re inconsistent and circumstantial • How relying solely on referrals can keep your business fragile, underperforming, and undercharging • Why visibility and consistent presence are the real drivers of predictable growth • Practical ways to show up intentionally so clients and prospects truly understand your value Referrals are the icing, not the cake. If you want a business built on intention rather than chance, you need a strategy that includes consistent visibility, clear messaging, and intentional marketing. This episode will help you release the emotional weight of waiting for referrals, step confidently into your role as the visible, trusted leader of your business, and start creating momentum that’s predictable and sustainable. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S7 Ep.202 The Myth of Charging What You’re Worth
11/25/2025
S7 Ep.202 The Myth of Charging What You’re Worth
n this episode, I’m breaking down one of the most persistent and harmful myths in our industry: the idea that you should “charge what you’re worth.” I know the intention behind that phrase is usually empowerment, but the impact? Confusion, insecurity, and emotional chaos. Your worth is not a number. It’s not a fee. It’s not something a client gets to validate or reject. Your worth was set long before you ever became a designer, and tying it to your pricing only creates a fragile business built on emotional quicksand. I’m diving into why so many of us fall into the trap of undercharging, over-delivering, and apologizing for our existence — not because we lack talent, but because we’re emotionally entangled with our fees. When pricing feels personal, every client objection feels like a judgment, every negotiation feels like a threat, and every discount feels like failure. In this conversation, I walk you through what actually belongs inside your pricing (the strategy, the math, the process, the real cost of delivering excellence) and what absolutely does not (your identity, your goodness, your value as a human being). You’ll also hear why clarity is the real source of confidence, why emotional pricing is a fast track to burnout, and why sustainable, strategic pricing is an act of stewardship — for your business, your clients, and the life you’re trying to build. And yes, we talk about faith, identity, and the mindset shifts that transform the way you show up as a leader and as a designer. In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why “charge what you’re worth” is one of the most damaging myths in the design industry • The emotional patterns that lead designers to chronically undercharge • How tying identity to pricing destabilizes your entire business • What clients are truly paying you for (it’s so much more than creativity) • The role of clarity and math in building profitable pricing • Why sustainable pricing is an act of stewardship, not greed • How separating worth from pricing creates confidence, stability, and peace • The shift from survival mode to a business that truly supports your life This episode is an invitation to release the pressure, reclaim your confidence, and rebuild your pricing on clarity instead of emotion. When you separate your self-worth from your invoice, everything becomes simpler, stronger, and far more sustainable. And the best part? Pricing stops feeling scary — and starts feeling grounded and peaceful. If this resonated with you, make sure to follow the show so you don’t miss the next episode in this Myth-Busting series, and share it with a designer friend who needs this reminder. We’re not meant to build this alone — we grow together. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S7 Ep.201 Myth: I Can Build a Thriving Design Business Through Trial and Error
11/17/2025
S7 Ep.201 Myth: I Can Build a Thriving Design Business Through Trial and Error
Hey y’all — welcome back to Design for the Creative Mind. I’m Michelle Lynn, and today we’re kicking off a brand-new season called Myth Busting: What People Get Wrong About the Interior Design Industry. And even though I sound like an 80-year-old chain smoker mixed with Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (thanks, Texas allergies), I wasn’t about to miss this episode because we’re starting with a big one. There’s a myth so many designers unknowingly build their entire business around: “I can figure this out through trial and error.” And I get it — because that’s exactly how I built my business in the early years. But here’s the truth: trial and error is the slowest, most expensive, most exhausting “strategy” you could possibly choose. If you’ve ever felt like every project is a guess, every client pushes a different boundary, and every new inquiry sends you into a scramble… you’re not imagining it. That’s what running a business on guesswork creates. In this episode, I walk you through what trial and error really costs you — not just in money, but in confidence, clarity, and peace. I talk about how emotional pricing drains your profit, how weak or inconsistent boundaries drain your sanity, and why every project feels urgent when you don’t have systems. I also share the moment everything shifted for me and how structure completely changed my business, my margins, my client relationships, and honestly, my life. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • Why trial and error keeps your business in survival mode instead of CEO mode • How emotional pricing, inconsistent processes, and unclear boundaries erode profit and confidence • What clients actually pay for (hint: leadership, not guesswork) • Why systems create clarity, trust, calm communication, and predictable profit • How structure protects your creativity and gives you back your time, energy, and peace • What becomes possible when you finally stop guessing and start leading with intention • Why I created the Interior Design Business Bakery and how it fills the gaps designers have been left to figure out alone If you’ve been hustling, guessing, Googling, patching together templates, and hoping the next project finally “clicks,” this episode is going to feel like a deep exhale. You don’t need more trial and error — you need clarity, systems, structure, and support. And you absolutely deserve them. I’m linking everything I mentioned — including the Interior Design Business Bakery — in the show notes. If this conversation hits you in the gut, if you’re tired of feeling behind, or if you’re craving a business that finally reflects your talent, this is your invitation. It’s time to retire the trial-and-error era of your business and step fully into your CEO seat. Until next week — stay creative, stay confident, and stay in your CEO seat. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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Ep. 200: Lessons from the Edge
11/05/2025
Ep. 200: Lessons from the Edge
Hey friends, welcome to the 200th episode of Designed for the Creative Mind — I can hardly believe we’re here. When I first started this podcast, I honestly didn’t know if I’d have the time or stamina to keep it going, and yet it’s become something I look forward to every single week. Thank you for being here, whether you’ve listened to every episode or this is your first. In this episode, I’m getting real and vulnerable about the edges I’ve faced in my business — the burnout, the betrayal, the mistakes, and the moments I thought about giving up. I share how I learned to step back, trust myself, and reclaim the power to choose how I respond when things feel overwhelming. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How to recognize when burnout is signaling that something in your business needs to change. Why trust and vulnerability are necessary, even when others let you down. How to pivot and make strategic decisions instead of operating on hope or fear. The importance of separating emotion from information and using numbers to guide business decisions. Why every obstacle, even betrayal or setbacks, can be a blessing in disguise. How purpose, grit, and grace can carry you through the toughest moments and help you lead with heart. This episode is a reminder that you don’t have to have it all figured out to keep moving forward, and that even when you’re exhausted, frustrated, or questioning your path, you are not alone. You can cry, cuss, pray, rest, and still rise. If you’re standing at your own edge right now, know that it’s possible to keep building, to pivot, and to find clarity and purpose in your business. Come sit with us at The Design Bakehouse — we tackle the hard stuff together, share real strategies, and create space for growth and connection. Thank you for being part of this milestone and for standing at the edge with me. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S6 Ep. 199: Talent Won’t Save Your Business (and What Actually Will)
10/27/2025
S6 Ep. 199: Talent Won’t Save Your Business (and What Actually Will)
In this episode, I’m talking about something we don’t say out loud enough in the design world: being talented isn’t the same thing as being profitable. You can be incredibly good at what you do — have the eye, the taste, the creativity — and still feel like you’re struggling to stay afloat in your business. And it’s not because you’re not good enough. It’s because most of us were never taught the business side of design. I’m breaking down what really creates stability and momentum in your design business: how you position yourself, how you price your value, the systems that support your process, the way you lead clients, and the confidence you bring into your role. These are the things that make your work sustainable — financially, emotionally, and creatively. This isn’t about working harder. It’s about working with intention. It’s about stepping into the role of CEO — not just designer. In This Episode We Talk About: Why design skill is only one part of a thriving business The mindset shift from “service provider” to “creative leader” How pricing and boundaries directly support your creativity Why consistent visibility matters more than perfectly curated aesthetics How systems actually protect your creative energy If you’ve been feeling like your business should be “easier by now” or like you’re doing everything right but still not seeing the results you want — you’re not alone, and you’re not doing anything wrong. This episode is your reminder that your talent is enough, and now it's time to support that talent with structure. When you learn to lead your business with clarity, confidence, and direction, everything else starts falling into place. Give this one a listen — it might shift the way you see your role in your business, in the best way possible. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S6 Ep.198 Trusted Partners: How to Build Your Go-To Vendor List
10/20/2025
S6 Ep.198 Trusted Partners: How to Build Your Go-To Vendor List
If you’ve ever felt unsure about how to find and build relationships with vendors, this episode is for you. I’m joined by Juliana and Debbie, and we’re pulling back the curtain on what it really looks like to source confidently, vet your partners, and make those connections that actually make your job easier — not harder. We’re talking about the first steps to take when you’re new, how to walk into a showroom without feeling like an imposter, and what to do when a vendor just doesn’t feel like the right fit. It’s real talk, a few laughs, and a whole lot of practical advice from people who’ve been there. IN THIS EPISODE: How I started building my vendor list when I was brand new Why asking “dumb questions” is actually one of the smartest things you can do The difference between a showroom rep and a good showroom rep Rookie mistakes I see all the time at market (and how to avoid them) My favorite way to track what I sit on, love, and want to specify later Tips for organizing your photos and notes so market trips actually pay off How I use Instagram to find new vendors and get inspired What I always ask about pricing, freight, and lead times Why you should never feel “less than” if you don’t know what something costs How I decide when it’s time to walk away from a vendor relationship I know firsthand how intimidating it can feel to start building vendor relationships — especially when you’re newer in the industry or walking into a showroom for the first time. But here’s the truth: those reps want your business. You have every right to be there. When you find the right partners, it changes everything about how you serve your clients and how smoothly your projects run. I want you to feel confident, informed, and empowered to show up as the professional you already are. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S6 Ep197: When to Break Your Own Rules
10/13/2025
S6 Ep197: When to Break Your Own Rules
Hey y’all — welcome back to the Design for the Creative Mind podcast! Today we’re talking about something that might surprise you… when it’s actually smart to break your own rules. Your rules exist for a reason — they protect your time, your profit, and your sanity. But sometimes, breaking one intentionally can lead to big opportunities. In my case, one rule I broke turned into hundreds of thousands of dollars in profit — no joke. So in this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on: Why your business rules and boundaries matter When they turn from protection to a cage How to know the difference between a strategic exception and a fear-based compromise Because business doesn’t live in absolutes — it lives in the messy middle. IN THIS EPISODE, I SHARE: Why boundaries and rules eliminate decision fatigue (and chaos!) The difference between bending a rule for strategy vs. breaking it out of fear Real-life stories from my firm — the good, the bad, and the “what was I thinking?” moments The $100K+ example of breaking my “no weekend work” rule the right way The painful lessons I learned from breaking rules for the wrong reasons — like discounting from fear or saying yes to a client who wasn’t a fit My personal framework for deciding: Am I doing this for strategy or for fear? You’ll walk away knowing exactly when to hold firm — and when to give yourself permission to flex. Rules protect you — but they can also box you in. The real power comes from discernment: knowing when a little flexibility can actually strengthen your business. If you’ve ever wrestled with questions like “Should I make this exception?” or “Am I being too rigid?” — this episode will help you decide with clarity and confidence. Remember: flexibility isn’t weakness — it’s wisdom. Or as Kenny Rogers said, you gotta know when to hold ’em and know when to fold ’em. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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S6 Ep 196: The 90% Plan
10/06/2025
S6 Ep 196: The 90% Plan
Hey y’all, it’s Michelle Lynn! Let’s talk about something that’s gonna ruffle a few perfectionist feathers—the 90% Rule. It’s my way of saying that doing less is actually the fastest way to make more. Perfectionism might feel like a badge of honor, but babe, it’s a profit killer. In this episode, I’m breaking down how overdelivering and chasing “perfect” are draining your time, your energy, and your money—and how to flip that into efficiency, profit, and freedom. I’ll walk you through how to decide where to give your full 100% and where 90% is more than enough. Because guess what? Your clients can’t tell the difference—and they’re already wowed. IN THIS EPISODE, I TALK ABOUT: What the 90% Rule is (and why it works) Why perfectionism is not service—it’s self-sabotage How “overdelivering” confuses clients and eats your profit The difference between excellence and perfection Real stories from ML Interiors Group (and how one change saved us 10–15 hours per project!) Where to give 100%: client experience, communication, and installation Where 90% is plenty: backend systems, sourcing, and social media consistency How the 90% Rule frees you to take on better clients, protect your creativity, and actually enjoy your business again You don’t have to give 110% everywhere to build a wildly successful design business. You just need to know where it counts. When you stop trying to perfect every detail and start focusing on what actually drives results, you make more money, get more energy back, and give your clients a smoother, more confident experience. RESOURCES: INTERIOR DESIGN BUSINESS BAKERY - Our year-long mentorship and coaching program: SIMPLIFY YOUR MARKETING, SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE. All-in-one software that organizes sales, marketing, and business services all in one convenient location. MARKETING MEMBERSHIP - Join our hands on marketing & visibility program, no contract, only $59/month. Stay in touch with Michelle on Instagram: Join our Free Facebook Community: Get clarity on your next best step today! Have ideas or suggestions or want to be considered as a guest on the show? Contact me!
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