The Digital Marketing Podcast

A weekly digital marketing podcast with listeners in over 190 countries worldwide.The Digital Marketing Podcast combines interviews with global experts, together with the latest news, tools, strategies and techniques to give your digital marketing the edge. Perfect for your daily commute, the podcast aims to be both entertaining and informative. Produced by Target Internet and hosted by Daniel Rowles, Ciaran Rogers and Louise Crossley. Find out more at targetIniernet.com/podcasts

The Changing User Journey - Lessons from the Travel Industry in the Age of AI 10/07/2025

The Changing User Journey - Lessons from the Travel Industry in the Age of AI In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel Rowles is joined by Matthew Gardiner from World Travel Market for a special look at how the user journey is being radically reshaped, and why the travel industry offers a powerful lens for understanding the broader changes all marketers now face. From AI-powered search and agents, to disconnected content ecosystems, collapsing funnels, and new expectations for sustainability and meaning, the way users discover, evaluate, and buy has shifted. Whether you work in travel or not, this episode delivers insight into how to adapt your digital strategy for a fragmented, AI-enhanced, and purpose-driven customer journey. In This Episode: Why AI is collapsing the funnel Users no longer move in a straight line from awareness to action. Conversations with AI agents like ChatGPT are replacing multi-step journeys. Whoever owns the AI conversation, owns the customer. From connected to disconnected content The shift from traditional, connected social feeds to short-form, algorithmically driven discovery (Reels, TikToks, Shorts) has changed how we build awareness and trust. AI Overviews and Answer Engine Optimisation With 55% of Google searches now including AI summaries, Daniel explains why SEO alone is not enough and how Generative Engine Optimisation (GEO) and Answer Engine Optimisation (AEO) are the new battlegrounds. Agents are doing the work From itinerary planning to automated bookings, AI agents are reshaping how users interact with brands, often bypassing websites altogether. The new role of structured data Matthew shares how travel brands must now treat structured markup (schema) as a new kind of distribution, ensuring they are machine-readable to AI systems. Why user testing must change Daniel explains why marketers must rethink usability testing to account for personalised algorithms, behaviour-based ad targeting, and AI-powered search. Brand loyalty as a survival tactic In an age of disintermediation, programmes like Bonvoy are keeping users loyal through gamification and exclusive benefits, offering lessons for all industries. Content strategy for the AI era From FAQs and multilingual support to video answers and UGC, the path to visibility is paved with granular, high-quality, human-first content. Industry Case Study: Travel Through a detailed conversation with Matthew Gardiner, the episode explores how the travel industry has continually adapted to disruption. From the rise of OTAs and TripAdvisor to today’s challenges around AI agents, soft adventure trends, live tourism, and sustainability expectations, travel may be the canary in the coal mine but its lessons are highly applicable to every sector. Key Takeaways: AI is not just changing how people search; it is rewriting how people trust, book, and choose. Being mentioned in AI conversations is the new SEO. Structured data and FAQ-rich content are your ticket in. Agents now do things, not just recommend. Optimising for transactions and post-click experience is vital. Loyalty schemes, brand identity, and customer advocacy matter more than ever to bypass AI’s generic results. Usability testing must reflect real, personalised experiences, not idealised lab setups. 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/38502100

The Meta CMO Interview - Digital Marketing Measurement, AI & Why the Basics Still Matter 10/07/2025

The Meta CMO Interview - Digital Marketing Measurement, AI & Why the Basics Still Matter In this special episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel Rowles sits down with Alex Schultz, Meta’s Chief Marketing Officer and Vice President of Analytics, to unpack the future of digital marketing, and why the fundamentals still matter more than ever. Alex shares lessons from his remarkable journey: from running the world’s top paper airplane website to leading growth at Meta, managing multi-billion dollar ad campaigns, and now authoring the industry-defining book Click Here. With high-profile endorsements from Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Daniel Ek, and Matthew Vaughn, the book has already gettimg rave reviews, and Daniel is putting it straight onto the reading list for his students at Imperial College. Together, Daniel and Alex dig into the core principles of great marketing: how to set meaningful goals, measure true impact, build high-performance teams, and embrace AI without losing your strategic edge. In This Episode: Why Alex wrote Click Here and why the industry desperately needed a book that gets back to fundamentals, marketing measurement, and pride in the profession. The power of incrementality: How to run meaningful tests, avoid vanity metrics, and prove real value to your CEO and CFO. Why goals are not the same as metrics and how mixing them up can derail your marketing efforts. The importance of awareness: Why most businesses fail because people simply don’t know they exist. Marketing mix matters: How one newspaper mention outperformed every digital channel—and why the basics still beat the buzz. Mediocre marketing + great conversion = success: Why broken funnels kill campaigns, no matter how brilliant your creative is. How Meta builds defensible growth : What sets their marketing apart, from deep integration with product and engineering, to AI-powered insights. AI’s real impact on marketing jobs: A breakdown of the three kinds of disruption AI will bring, and why the marketers who embrace it will thrive. Paper planes, transparency, and unexpected beginnings: Hear how Alex’s nerdy hobby turned into a viral website, and why he publicly shares his university grades to inspire others. Key Takeaways: Get back to basics: Clear goals, good data, and fundamental models (like the funnel) still win. Measure what matters: Metrics are not goals - incrementality is everything. Focus on defensibility and scale in your marketing channels, don’t waste time on things that can’t grow. AI won’t replace marketers - marketers who use AI will replace those who don’t. Be transparent and human: Success doesn’t require perfection, it requires clarity, curiosity, and continuous learning. 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/38495920

Regenerative Marketing - The Goose That Thought it was a Chicken! 09/04/2025

Regenerative Marketing - The Goose That Thought it was a Chicken! Far beyond a productivity hack or sustainability trend, the regenerative mindset offers marketers and leaders a framework to design work, creativity and impact that helps build value. You'll have to listen to find out about the Goose! Drawing from systems thinking and marketing strategy, Daniel and Ciaran challenge the “hustle at all costs” mentality and instead champion a more humane, resilient and adaptable approach to digital marketing. In This Episode: What is a Regenerative Mindset? Understand the key difference between sustainability and regeneration - why one aims to sustain the status quo and the other aims to restore, replenish, and grow. Rethinking Productivity and Growth Explore why traditional productivity models are failing marketers in the age of AI, information overload, and fragmented attention, and what to do instead. AI as a Regenerative Tool Rather than using AI to do more, faster, Daniel and Ciaran explore how AI can help reduce cognitive burden, fuel creativity, and foster experimentation when used mindfully. Designing Regenerative Marketing Systems Discover how regenerative principles, such as reciprocity, interdependence, and feedback loops, can help build more sustainable, and effective marketing strategies. Tools, Mindsets and Micro-practices From digital decluttering to reflective learning and systems thinking, the hosts share practical approaches to integrating regeneration into your professional life. Key Takeaways: Regeneration is not about working less, it’s about working in flow with better results and less burnout Marketers must go beyond campaign thinking and start designing ecosystems of value and renewal Rest, reflection and curiosity are not luxuries, they're strategic assets A regenerative mindset helps you lead through complexity and adapt with clarity The future of digital marketing isn’t just AI or data, it’s resilience, systems thinking, and human-centred creativity. 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/38084540

Tools and Tips Special - Navigating AI Search, Ads & SEO in 2025 08/26/2025

Tools and Tips Special - Navigating AI Search, Ads & SEO in 2025 In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, hosts Daniel Rowles and Ciaran Rogers return with a fresh round of insights and hands-on tools to help digital marketers adapt and experiment in the evolving AI-driven marketing landscape. From Google's AI Max campaigns to the explosion of generative engine optimisation, Daniel and Ciaran unpack the shifts happening across search, paid media, and SEO. This isn’t just another roundup of shiny tools, this episode explores how to think strategically about the role of AI in search, the real impact on your organic performance, and the mindset required to stay ahead of the curve. What’s Inside This Episode: AI Max Campaigns in Google Ads Discover how Google’s new AI-powered campaign structure is changing the game. It’s not just another bidding strategy, it’s an integrated layer that leverages keywordless signals, context, and user behaviour across Google properties to personalise campaigns. Learn why separating these into siloed budgets might actually hinder performance and what you need to consider before rolling out. The Vanishing Organic Click While impressions are up, clicks are down. Daniel shares Target Internet’s own data showing a drop in organic click-through rates and explains why Google’s AI-generated answers, Reddit posts, and video content are pushing traditional organic listings further down the page. LLM Refs and the New SEO Frontier With AI overviews, ChatGPT, and other LLMs becoming key discovery engines, how do you make sure your brand shows up? The hosts explore LLMRefs, a tool that shows how different brands are ranking across major AI models, and reveal just how fragmented and competitive this new landscape is. Structured Data, Schema & the Knowledge Graph Daniel and Ciaran highlight the importance of schema markup and entity relationships in Google’s Knowledge Graph, using tools like the Knowledge Graph Explorer to demonstrate how Google perceives your brand and its connections. If you're not surfacing in the right contexts, it could just be due to a missing link, literally. Search Engine Optimization ≠ Generative Engine Optimization The hosts challenge the idea that SEO principles remain unchanged in the world of AI. With so many variables, location, devices, user intent, history, and model-specific behavior, your approach needs to be more agile and nuanced than ever. Key Takeaways: Performance Max and AI Max are now core to Google Ads - understanding signals and context is essential Organic traffic is declining, but impressions may still rise - CTR is the new battleground You can’t game the system anymore with a few smart keywords; LLMs require strong content, schema, and reputation The tools are out there - you just need to experiment, validate, and iterate Don’t fall into the trap of “a little knowledge” - simplifying complex changes leads to bad decisions AI models aren't clairvoyant - you need to structure and declare your content clearly 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/37961760

ChatGPT Agent and the Future of Digital Marketing 08/03/2025

ChatGPT Agent and the Future of Digital Marketing In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel Rowles and Ciaran Rogers explore one of the most transformative shifts in digital marketing: the arrival of ChatGPT Agent and the rise of agent-based AI. No longer just about generating content, AI is now taking action on our behalf, logging into websites, filling out forms, analysing data, creating content, and even posting to platforms like LinkedIn. It’s here now, and it’s changing how marketing teams work from the ground up. Daniel shares his firsthand experiments with ChatGPT Agent, from connecting it to Canva to create and publish carousel posts, to testing its ability to analyse his entire LinkedIn history and recommend strategies for future content. While the possibilities are jaw-dropping, the hosts also explore the risks, security concerns, talent pipeline challenges, and the long-term implications for marketing roles. In this episode, you’ll learn: What agent-based AI really is and why it’s different from traditional AI chat tools How ChatGPT Agent combines deep research, web browsing, and autonomous task execution Real-world test cases, from generating content to posting directly on LinkedIn Why prompt quality and structure are more important than ever The security and compliance risks of connecting agents to business systems How agent-driven automation could replace many junior marketing tasks Why agility and learning culture are now critical for businesses to survive disruption The ethical and strategic questions marketers need to face around job design and human oversight The discussion goes beyond technology to look at the human side of digital marketing. Daniel and Ciaran debate the future of junior roles, how companies can avoid gutting their talent pipelines, and why brands that lean into humanity, creativity, and trust may stand out in an AI-driven landscape. Key Takeaways: ChatGPT Agent is a genuine step change, going from AI that suggests, to AI that does. Marketing teams can gain huge efficiency, but must double-check outputs and guard against overreliance. Security is now a critical concern, as agents gain access to business-critical systems. Junior marketing roles are at risk, companies must balance efficiency with long-term talent growth. Building an agile learning culture is the best defence against AI disruption. 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/37652245

The Future of SEO 08/03/2025

The Future of SEO In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, hosts Daniel Rowles and Ciaran Rogers explore one of the most pressing questions facing marketers today: what does SEO look like in a world dominated by AI search and generative answers? With Google rolling out AI Overviews and AI Mode, and tools like ChatGPT and Gemini changing how people search, the rules of SEO are shifting fast. Some publishers report traffic drops of up to 60%, while others in e-commerce are holding steady. So is SEO really dead, or just evolving into something new? Daniel and Ciaran dig deep into what’s happening, separating hype from reality and providing clear, practical advice for marketers trying to adapt. They explain why understanding Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) and AI Overviewsn (AIO) is critical, and how you can stay visible when clicks are disappearing. What you’ll learn in this episode: Why AI Overviews are changing user behaviour, and pushing organic results further down the page How share of voice and brand sentiment are becoming as important as traditional ranking factors Why advocacy and positive online mentions may now trump old-school keyword tactics The growing importance of Wikipedia, Reddit, and forums in shaping AI-driven answers Why updating and referencing your best content is more powerful than ever How no-click searches are rewriting what “success” looks like in SEO Practical ways to benchmark your visibility Why prompt-like queries and longer conversational searches are the new normal How to build trust through Google’s E‑E‑A‑T principles (Expertise, Experience, Authoritativeness, Trustworthiness) The Future of SEO Episode Mindmap The hosts also explore pitfalls to avoid, from snake-oil SEO sales pitches to rushing into poorly thought-out Wikipedia pages that could backfire. They emphasise a smarter, evidence-based approach: focusing on authenticity, advocacy, and quality content that’s updated, referenced, and truly useful. Key Takeaways: SEO isn’t dead, but competing for the top three AI-sourced links is tougher than ever. Building advocacy and brand mentions is critical to visibility in AI search. Quality and authenticity (with evidence and references) beat quantity every time. Think conversational: searches are getting longer, more natural, and more complex. Following Google’s E‑E‑A‑T framework is the best hedge against AI-driven disruption. If you’re a marketer, publisher, or business owner trying to make sense of the shifting SEO landscape, this episode provides both clarity and actionable steps to future-proof your strategy. 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/37651790

How to Go Viral – The Science Behind Content that Spreads 07/11/2025

How to Go Viral – The Science Behind Content that Spreads In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel Rowles is joined by Brendan Kane, viral strategist and author of One Million Followers, for a deep dive into the art and science of making content go viral. Going viral often feels like marketing mythology,something bosses ask for, but few can explain or deliver. Brendan, however, has built a career proving that virality isn’t luck. It’s repeatable, measurable, and rooted in storytelling structures that have worked for decades. Brendan shares the behind-the-scenes thinking that led to his experiment growing an audience of 1 million followers in 30 days, starting from scratch, without a team, celebrity status, or advertising budget. More than a vanity metric, the project was a proof-of-concept for a framework that now helps brands, creators, and entrepreneurs reliably generate massive reach and meaningful engagement. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why qualitative analysis - not just views and clicks, holds the key to repeatable success The power of storytelling formats like “Man on the Street” and “Two Characters, One Light Bulb” How to match your brand’s resources and personality to the right format Why volume isn’t the answer, and what quality actually means in the age of AI and infinite content Why originality is overrated, and how proven formats unlock creativity instead of limiting it How even “boring” industries like tax, insurance, and leather craftsmanship can thrive on social media The truth about “frequency myths” and how creators burn out chasing quantity over story Why format mastery trumps trend-chasing—and how sitcoms, Spielberg, and social media are more alike than you think Brendan also breaks down his format-matching process, built from over 10,000 hours of research and analysis of 300+ viral content structures. His agency works with individuals and brands to identify the storytelling structures that resonate most with their audience, and helps them build repeatable, on-brand content that doesn’t just go viral, but converts. This conversation flips conventional marketing wisdom on its head, challenging the obsession with originality and encouraging marketers to focus on structure, story, and strategic authenticity. Key Takeaways: Virality isn’t random, it’s engineered through proven creative models Storytelling formats provide containers for creativity, not limitations Format mastery enables faster growth and deeper audience trust Business outcomes must be baked into your content strategy from day one Social media isn't just another channel, it's the ultimate storytelling platform 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to Daniel’s monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/37379290

AI Copywriting and Claude - A Copywriter’s Guide to Getting the Best from AI 07/11/2025

AI Copywriting and Claude - A Copywriter’s Guide to Getting the Best from AI In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel Rowles sits down with copywriting and AI expert Kerry Harrison to explore one of the most exciting—and often misunderstood—areas of artificial intelligence: AI-powered copywriting. Together, they dive into how Anthropic’s Claude AI compares to tools like ChatGPT and Gemini, and why Claude is quickly becoming a favourite for writers who care about tone, style, and ethical AI. Kerry, a seasoned copywriter and trainer, shares her hands-on experiences using Claude to create high-quality marketing content. She explains how Claude's intuitive interface, stylistic flexibility, and alignment with ethical AI principles make it a uniquely powerful tool for communicators, marketers, and brands. But this isn’t just a tool review. It’s a masterclass in how to approach AI copywriting strategically. Daniel and Kerry explore a human-first methodology called the AI Sandwich, a practical framework for combining human creativity with AI efficiency. They tackle big questions about authenticity, originality, and prompt engineering, and show how to avoid the cookie-cutter feel that plagues so much AI-generated content. Highlights include: Why Claude’s tone of voice and writing capabilities often outperform other models for consumer copy How to train Claude on your own style and get responses that reflect your brand’s voice How to use Claude’s Projects feature to build custom tools like tone checkers, newsletter editors, and interactive customer personas A breakdown of the AI Sandwich Methodology (Human → AI → Human) for crafting content that feels human, not robotic Techniques for fact-checking, editing, and sense-checking AI outputs to avoid hallucinations and blandness How Kerry uses Claude for marketing strategy, persona creation, positioning, and ideation Tips for integrating Claude with Gmail and calendar tools to improve time management and workflow efficiency This episode is packed with actionable ideas, whether you're a content creator, strategist, marketer, or business owner. You’ll learn how to write better prompts, extract more value from AI tools, and remain fiercely authentic and creative in an age of digital automation. Key Takeaways: Train AI on your tone of voice to stand out from generic outputs Use Claude’s extended thinking and reasoning models for strategic ideation Human guidance (before and after AI) is critical to compelling content Projects in Claude can act like custom GPTs tailored to your exact needs Staying human, thoughtful, and ethical is still your biggest advantage 💡 Whether you're new to Claude or already exploring AI content workflows, this episode will give you a fresh, grounded, and strategic perspective on what’s possible, without losing your creative soul in the process. 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to Daniel’s monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/37378990

Branding, Strategy and Taylor Swift 07/11/2025

Branding, Strategy and Taylor Swift In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel Rowles explores one of the most unexpected but powerful business case studies in modern branding: Taylor Swift! Joined by Kevin Evers, Senior Editor at Harvard Business Review and author of There’s Nothing Like This. Kevin dives into how Swift’s career offers a masterclass in brand strategy, audience connection, and long-term business thinking. Why does a global superstar in a notoriously cutthroat industry continue to outperform and outlast her peers? According to Kevin, it’s not luck or fandom - it’s strategy. Drawing on insights from his newly released book, Kevin breaks down the key inflection points in Swift’s 20-year career. From turning down a major label at age 13 to preserve creative control, to executing one of the boldest rebranding and ownership moves in music history with her “Taylor’s Version” re-recordings, this episode examines how Swift embodies the core principles of marketing, product-market fit, and customer obsession. Daniel and Kevin unpack how Taylor Swift: Identified a niche audience when the data said it wasn’t viable Built trust and intimacy into her brand from day one Embraced user-generated content and fan communities to expand reach Navigated multiple brand pivots without losing authenticity Took complete ownership of her brand and intellectual property Continues to evolve while staying aligned to her audience’s needs They also explore how her fandom operates as a distributed marketing engine, elevating everything from live streams to lyric analysis and decoding hidden clues. With references to startup thinking, customer experience design, and even parallels with Jobs-to-Be-Done theory, this conversation turns a pop icon into a blueprint for brand building at scale. Whether you’re a marketer, entrepreneur or brand strategist, this episode offers rare insight into what it takes to build something culturally durable, and fiercely customer-centric. Key Takeaways: Brand clarity trumps market data when paired with conviction Fan communities can become your most powerful marketing asset Ownership and authenticity are strategic decisions, not just personal ones Pivoting is easier when you’ve built long-term trust Obsessing over your audience is a competitive advantage 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to Daniel’s monthly live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/37378765

Digital Marketing & AI News 06/13/2025

Digital Marketing & AI News In this special solo edition of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel introduces a new regular feature: a fast-paced roundup of the most critical AI and digital marketing news. With the rate of change accelerating across platforms, tools, and marketing strategy, it’s never been more important to stay ahead, and this episode helps you do just that. Daniel covers the latest developments from Google, Meta, OpenAI, LinkedIn and more, offering practical commentary on what they mean for marketers right now. From ChatGPT’s new operator functions to Google’s AI-powered search evolution, this episode is packed with insight on how AI is reshaping digital marketing roles, content, advertising, and SEO. Highlights from this episode: ChatGPT’s new Connectors and Deep Research tools Now you can give ChatGPT secure access to your Google Drive, SharePoint, email, and even CRM platforms like HubSpot. Daniel explains how this lets you build bespoke knowledge bases and bring real organisational context to your AI workflows. Operator: OpenAI’s first real step into Agentic AI Forget just generating content, Operator can now browse the web and perform actions like posting content or interacting with platforms. Daniel unpacks what this means for junior roles in marketing, and the wider implications for talent development and job design. AI Mode and AI Overviews in Google Search Google is rolling out AI Mode in search results and now has AI Overviews live in 200 countries. Daniel explores what this means for search strategy, SEO, and advertising - especially as Google plans to inject ads into these AI responses. Meta’s Advantage+ and the death of manually-built ads? Meta claims its AI-generated ads are outperforming those built by humans, with 100% AI-driven campaign automation arriving in early 2026. Daniel explores the real ROI implications and the future of agency relationships in a world of automated campaign builds. LinkedIn integrates with Adobe Express Daniel explains how new creative integrations are streamlining video ad production and what that means for in-house and outsourced content teams. Through it all, Daniel calls for a conscious approach to adopting AI: how to upskill teams, protect strategic thinking, and build marketing operations that are more human, not less. Key Takeaways: AI tools like ChatGPT are now organisationally aware - marketers must learn to harness them. Search is changing fast, but traditional SEO fundamentals still matter. Automation is pushing paid media roles toward strategic oversight, not just execution. AI is starting to replace, not just augment. some junior marketing roles. The brands that thrive will be those who rethink job design and talent pipelines now. 🎧 Listen now to get ahead of the curve with the latest AI news and marketing implications. 📥 Access the show notes, tools, and links at: 📩 Join the free newsletter for access to Daniel’s monthly AI agent live sessions: /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/36997210

Complete Guide to Keyword Research 06/06/2025

Complete Guide to Keyword Research In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel, Ciaran, and Louise take a deep dive into the often-misunderstood world of keyword research - one of the most foundational yet complex elements of digital marketing. What starts as a seemingly simple task (“just pick some keywords, right?”) quickly unravels into a minefield of audience intent, brand positioning, search behaviour shifts, and the sometimes soul-crushing reality of traffic that doesn’t convert. The trio break down the full process with real-world insight, humour, and some very candid reflections on what not to do. From teaching postgraduate students at Imperial College to running real commercial SEO campaigns, Daniel shares his evolving approach to keyword strategy - highlighting how brand clarity, buyer personas, and mapping the full user journey are essential to getting keyword research right. What you’ll learn in this episode: Why volume-based keyword selection is a trap How to balance traffic, intent, and competition in your keyword choices Why middle-of-the-funnel content is often your secret weapon How to prune and optimise your existing content for better conversions The problem with vanity metrics (and what to track instead) How new AI-powered tools like Content Raptor and Keywords Everywhere are changing the game The role of search across Google, YouTube, social and even email What to look for in competitor analysis and how to use keyword clustering effectively Louise brings sharp insight into modern search behaviour and the growing importance of voice, conversational search, and featured snippets, while Ciaran opens up about years of chasing traffic volume before realising conversions are what truly count. (Spoiler: a blog about banana peels and Botox might bring in traffic—but probably not sales.) The episode ends with a step-by-step process for approaching keyword research in 2025, including content ideation, testing, SEO hooks, and how to integrate what you learn across multiple marketing channels. Key Takeaways: Keyword research isn’t about finding more keywords - it’s about finding the right ones. Strategic alignment between brand, content, and intent is critical. Most marketers overinvest in top-of-funnel traffic and neglect conversion-focused content. Updating and optimising your existing content can often move the needle more than publishing something new. A good keyword is one that drives results - not just visits. With tools, frameworks, and honest advice, this episode is your ultimate keyword research sanity-check. Whether you’re building a content strategy from scratch or refining an existing one, this is the guide you didn’t know you needed. 🎧 Listen now and get your complete step-by-step guide. You'll find all links on TargetInternet.com Show notes: Have any feedback on the show? Send us your feedback, tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please leave us a review. /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/36890760

Agile Marketing Hands-On 05/20/2025

Agile Marketing Hands-On In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel dives into the world of agile marketing, exploring how a new methodology is helping marketers launch strategic, high-impact campaigns at pace, without compromising on quality. Joined by Peter Abraham (former Econsultancy leader and founder of Crank), alongside Katherine Torrance and Claire Pankhurst, the creators of Supercharged Marketing Sprints, Daniel unpacks a new approach to growth marketing that blends the speed of agile with the strategic rigour marketing has been missing. The team explain how their 5-day sprint framework works in practice - coaching marketing teams to develop and launch live, multichannel campaigns in just a week. Unlike traditional brainstorming workshops that leave great ideas gathering dust, this sprint ends with a live campaign in market, backed by real data and customer insight. Together, they explore how this approach helps businesses: Build high-performing campaigns under intense time constraints Cut through campaign chaos and internal delays Deliver strategic focus without sacrificing speed Align stakeholders quickly around a shared goal Create minimum viable campaigns (MVCs) that actually launch More than just a framework, this is a practical, tested process grounded in real-world experience. Peter shares his initial scepticism, and eventual surprise, at seeing these sprints succeed where other methods stall. Catherine and Claire outline how their structure gives marketing teams space for deep thinking and rapid deployment. They also share how AI tools (like headline generation and campaign planning assistants) are used to speed up the creative process, while still relying on human judgement and strategic thinking. This episode is packed with lessons for marketers frustrated by slow timelines, campaign bottlenecks, and chaotic execution cycles. Daniel and his guests lay out how to shift away from “tactics-first” thinking and instead build campaigns rooted in buyer insight, stakeholder alignment, and clear, testable outcomes. Key Takeaways: Why agile principles need evolution for modern marketing How 5-day sprints help teams go from messy ideas to market-ready campaigns The crucial role of stakeholder alignment and constrained planning How AI can complement (not replace) creative strategy How to build minimum viable campaigns with maximum impact Why fast isn’t enough—campaigns must be focused and aligned Whether you’re a CMO looking for a faster way to deliver results, or a team lead trying to cut through the clutter, this episode offers an inspiring look at what marketing agility really looks like in action. 🎧 Listen now and get your complete step-by-step guide. You'll find all links on TargetInternet.com Show notes: Have any feedback on the show? Send us your feedback, tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please leave us a review. /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/36638320

Guide to AI Agents 05/11/2025

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ChatGPT for Marketing Latest Updates 04/02/2025

ChatGPT for Marketing Latest Updates Join Daniel and Ciaran for a fast-paced episode where they unpack the latest ChatGPT developments and explore their real-world applications for digital marketers. From image generation breakthroughs to AI-driven research and content production, this episode is your essential briefing on how generative AI is redefining marketing workflows. Staying Ahead in the AI Race The pace of change in generative AI is relentles, and this episode underscores why digital marketers must actively engage with the tools at the forefront. Daniel and Ciaran discuss the strategic value of being early adopters and how leveraging these advancements can deliver competitive advantage. But the conversation goes deeper, exploring what happens once AI adoption becomes widespread. It’s not just about using tools, but integrating them meaningfully into brand ecosystems and operational frameworks. Practical AI Use Cases That Deliver Daniel and Ciaran share hands-on examples of AI tools in action, from generating fully branded, photorealistic visuals with minimal prompts, to automating repetitive marketing tasks and research with GPT-4’s latest capabilities. Daniel's experiment using ChatGPT to generate brand-consistent creative assets even passed the scrutiny of a notoriously exacting brand manager, an achievement many designers will appreciate. Ciaran, once an AI sceptic, now openly admits that generative AI is embedded in his daily workflow, dramatically increasing his productivity and creative capabilities as a solo marketer. New Features Marketers Need to Know About This episode provides an authoritative walkthrough of the newest features: 4o Image Generation: Create detailed, accurate, and on-brand visuals with unprecedented text and style control. In-Context Learning: Upload brand elements for on-brand content creation at scale. Image Editing: Photoshop-like features now baked into AI, enabling precision editing directly within ChatGPT. Task Automation: Schedule content generation from custom sources to maintain marketing consistency and reduce workload. Deep Research Mode: Access iterative, multi-step research capabilities ideal for content strategy, SEO, and thought leadership. Knowledge Integration: Tap into Google Drive as a knowledge base for truly personalised outputs, paving the way for CRM and analytics integration. Facing the Challenges and Embracing the Change Amidst the excitement, the hosts tackle difficult questions. What happens to traditional roles in marketing teams? How do we manage the ethical and emotional challenges of automation? The discussion is candid, acknowledging fears while offering a roadmap for future-proofing your skills and your organisation. The key takeaway? This moment demands a culture of continuous learning, innovation and adaptability. Marketers who invest in understanding and embedding these tools will not only survive but thrive. -- You'll find all links on TargetInternet.com Show notes: Have any feedback on the show? Send us your feedback, tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please leave us a review. /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/35980180

Complete Guide to LinkedIn Ads 03/28/2025

Complete Guide to LinkedIn Ads In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, Daniel Rowles sits down with LinkedIn Ads legend AJ Wilcox, founder of B2Linked, for a deep-dive into everything you need to know to run effective, budget-friendly campaigns on LinkedIn.AJ has been living and breathing LinkedIn Ads for over a decade and shares insights honed from managing millions in ad spend. Why LinkedIn Ads Work Differently AJ explains why LinkedIn ads often cost like bottom-of-funnel, but act like top-of-funnel. Understanding this difference is critical to setting realistic expectations and structuring your campaigns for success. Avoiding Expensive Advice From platform recommendations to rep suggestions, AJ breaks down why the default guidance often costs more, and how you can outsmart it. Learn how to bid lower and still reach the right audience with zero drop in lead quality. Smarter Bidding, Better Results Discover AJ’s manual bidding strategy that consistently reduces costs while keeping quality high. AJ explains how to find the sweet spot between visibility and efficiency. Segment for Insight, Not Just Scale Why target your entire audience in one go when you can break it down into microsegments that act like live focus groups? Learn how to build campaigns that teach you as they perform so you improve as you go. Building a Funnel That Actually Works AJ outlines a simple but powerful three-stage funnel: Stage 1: Awareness through video and document ads Stage 2: Engagement with deeper content like podcasts, webinars, or YouTube Stage 3: Conversion via direct CTAs or sales calls The result? Up to 5x better conversion rates without wasting budget on premature CTAs. Ad Formats That Convert Find out why “thought leader” video ads and TikTok-style captions are crushing it at the top of the funnelan, and how to retarget strategically using native lead gen forms or your own landing pages (depending on your goals). Metrics That Matter Impressions and clicks are just the surface. AJ shares the real KPIs you should be tracking, from engagement rates to cost-per-booked-call, and how to calculate custom metrics that LinkedIn won’t show you. Organic and Paid: Better Together Discover where the LinkedIn platform is headed and why your organic and paid strategies will need to work hand-in-hand. From thought leader ads to CRM integrations, the future of LinkedIn marketing is more connected, and more powerful than ever. -- You'll find all links on TargetInternet.com Show notes: Have any feedback on the show? Send us your feedback, tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please leave us a review. /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/35910740

The Latest Digital Marketing Tools & Techniques 03/13/2025

The Latest Digital Marketing Tools & Techniques Updated to fix audio gap on Daniels mic! In this episode Ciaran and Daniel Rowles dive into the most exciting new tools that can transform the way marketers work—from AI-powered social media automation to SEO optimisation and content enhancement tools. They also share a whole range of special offers for listeners for each of the tools. Core topics covered include: AI-Powered Social Media: Powerful Tool or Terrible Content Creator? Explore the rise of AI-assisted tools that promise to make marketing more efficient. From Blaze, an AI-driven social media content creator, to advanced AI-powered image generators like Flux, we uncover how artificial intelligence is reshaping content creation. Mastering SEO with Existing Content Analysis The hosts explore Content Raptor, a powerful tool that analyses your website’s search performance and suggests improvements to maximise organic traffic. Learn how updating your existing content can drive thousands of additional visits. Competitive Intelligence & Market Research Ever wondered what your competitors are doing? Competitors App helps marketers monitor competitors' ad strategies, website updates, social media activity, and even customer reviews—all in one place. Content Creation and AI Detection With AI-generated content on the rise, ensuring quality and originality is more important than ever. We explore Surfer’s AI Detector, a tool that helps identify AI-written content and discuss strategies for making AI content feel more human. The Real Value of Social Media Marketing Is social media still worth the effort? The team discuss why less is more and how businesses can make social content truly impactful rather than just flooding feeds with generic posts. Learn why YouTube optimisation might be a better investment than traditional social platforms. -- You'll find all links on TargetInternet.com Show notes: Have any feedback on the show? Send us your feedback, tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please leave us a review. /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/35660310

What is the best AI? ChatGPT Vs DeepSeek Vs Gemini 02/17/2025

What is the best AI? ChatGPT Vs DeepSeek Vs Gemini Join the Target Internet team for a lively debate dissecting three of the most talked-about AI models in marketing today. In this episode, the trio evaluates the capabilities of ChatGPT, DeepSeek, and Google’s Gemini, sharing firsthand experiences and expert takes on where these tools excel, where they stumble, and how you can leverage them in your digital marketing strategy. Why AI Matters Right Now Shifting Industry Landscape – The unexpected rise of DeepSeek and the ongoing hype around ChatGPT showcase just how quickly AI can upend existing norms. This accelerated pace is driving new opportunities for automating tasks, improving content quality, and enhancing customer experiences. New Skills for Marketers – From prompt engineering to navigating privacy concerns, marketers need to learn new skills to harness AI effectively. The discussion offers insights on how to develop these competencies and stay relevant. DeepSeek: Surprise Contender or Copycat? Powerful Results – The hosts experiment with DeepSeek and discover its reasoning features can rival—and sometimes mirror—ChatGPT’s output. The free version delivers impressively detailed responses, leading many to wonder if it’s using ChatGPT’s own data. Privacy and Security Concerns – DeepSeek’s privacy policy raises eyebrows by potentially collecting user data ranging from cookies to keystroke patterns. If you’re considering adoption, you’ll want to weigh these risks and possibly opt for local, walled installations. ChatGPT: The Market Leader Evolves Advanced Prompting – ChatGPT’s newest models feature improved reasoning. Tapping into its hidden “chain-of-thought” can offer deeper insight into how it arrives at answers, giving marketers a roadmap for refining prompts. Consistency and Reliability – Despite stiffer competition, ChatGPT still shines for its stable output and diverse applications—particularly if you have a paid plan offering the latest features. Google’s Gemini: A Work in Progress Early Glitches – While Gemini promises powerful integration with Google’s ecosystem, the hosts encounter errors and incomplete results. Patience and continued experimentation may be needed before Gemini becomes a serious rival. Sparking Possibilities – Despite current shortcomings, Gemini’s potential—especially with deep research modes and integrated document workflows—could make it a strong contender once refined. Real-World Applications & Tips Enhancing Content Strategy – AI tools can generate everything from quick outlines to fully fleshed-out articles. However, the team stresses that human oversight is crucial to avoid misinformation and to add original value. Recruitment & Resume Screening – Discover how some applicants now rely on AI to craft uniform CVs and cover letters, creating challenges for hiring managers—and opportunities to innovate in the screening process. Workflow Integration – Explore advanced techniques like building custom GPTs, leveraging keywords-everywhere extensions, and experimenting with local AI instances for improved data security. Tune in now to stay on top of rapidly evolving AI trends. Whether you’re worried about privacy policies or excited by new prompting techniques, this episode will help you navigate AI’s complex landscape and make smarter decisions for your marketing strategy. -- You'll find all links on TargetInternet.com Show notes: Have any feedback on the show? Send us your feedback, tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please leave us a review. /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/35316615

How to Rank in ChatGPT - SEO is Dead, Long Live SEO! 01/27/2025

How to Rank in ChatGPT - SEO is Dead, Long Live SEO! In this episode of The Digital Marketing Podcast, brought to you by TargetInternet.com, Daniel, Ciaran, and Louise revisit the age-old question: “Is SEO dead?” This time, they look ahead to 2025 and beyond. The hosts examine how search engine optimisation has evolved—and why it’s far from obsolete, despite the rise of AI, generative search, and changing user behaviours. The Big Question: Is SEO Dead in 2025? The team reflect on how this debate has reappeared time and again over the years. Daniel recalls delivering “Is SEO Dead?” presentations for more than a decade. Each new development—like Google’s Search Generative Experience (SGE)—prompts marketers to wonder if SEO, as we know it, is on its last legs. The consensus? While the landscape is changing, SEO is definitely still alive. The Evolution of Search Search Everywhere Optimisation (SEO?) Daniel mentions a Neil Patel reference to “Search Everywhere Optimisation,” suggesting marketers need to ensure their content is discoverable across multiple platforms—search engines, social media, and beyond. While Ciaran pokes fun at the buzzword bingo, this concept points to the wider reality that people no longer rely solely on Google for answers. Search Journey Optimisation (SJO) Daniel also sarcastically floats another acronym—“Search Journey Optimisation”—to emphasise that effective SEO now involves guiding users throughout their journey, from discovery to conversion, across numerous touchpoints. Whether it’s a blog, social channel, or AI-driven tool like ChatGPT, the goal is consistent: be where your audience is searching. Generative AI and the Future of Results Google’s Business Model A student on Daniel’s MSc programme queried whether Google’s focus on generative AI answers might undermine its core income from search ads. Daniel counters that because advertising revenue is so vital, Google will simply evolve how it integrates AI responses in order to preserve those crucial ad clicks. AI is more likely to be blended with paid search than to replace it. User Behaviour in Social and AI From Instagram’s rise as a “second largest search engine” to ChatGPT’s quick-fire Q&A approach, people’s searching habits are increasingly diversified. Still, the principle of discoverability remains paramount: marketers must ensure their content can be found wherever potential customers are looking. Why SEO (Still) Matters While AI-driven summaries and direct answers may reduce clicks for basic queries, the hosts point out that deeper engagement and conversions happen when people actually visit a website or platform. Organisations that offer in-depth, high-quality information will continue to attract meaningful traffic. In other words, SEO is still fundamental—just with a renewed focus on user-centric, valuable content across all relevant channels. If you’re intrigued by the latest acronyms (SJO, SEO, SGE) or want a clearer understanding of how AI might reshape our industry, this episode is a must-listen. Join Daniel, Ciaran, and Louise as they discuss AI’s influence, Google’s motivations, and practical steps to stay competitive. Listen now to find out why SEO keeps being declared ‘dead’—and why, in reality, it’s more vital than ever. -- You'll find all links on TargetInternet.com Show notes: https://targetinternet.com/resources/how-to-rank-in-chatgpt Have any feedback on the show? Send us your feedback, tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please leave us a review. /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/35034465

Social Media Trends and Trip Hazards for 2025 01/19/2025

Social Media Trends and Trip Hazards for 2025 In this episode of the Digital Marketing Podcast, hosts Ciaran Rogers, Louise Crossley, and Daniel Rowles unpack the latest insights from Hootsuite's 2025 Social Media Trends Report. Creative Content: Breaking Boundaries Without Breaking Your Brand The discussion kicks off with an exploration of the shift towards entertainment-driven content. Over 60% of organisations are creating content designed to entertain, educate, or inform rather than promote directly. The hosts debate the pros and cons of pushing creative boundaries, citing examples of effective emotional engagement. They also warn of the risks of losing brand consistency and highlight strategies to stay innovative while staying true to your brand identity. Proactive Engagement: Opportunities and Risks The team discusses the growing trend of proactive engagement, where brands interact directly with creators and audiences in real time. With statistics showing that proactive engagement can drive 1.6 times more interaction, they explore how brands can add value to conversations without appearing intrusive or opportunistic. This segment is packed with insights on building meaningful connections while avoiding common engagement pitfalls. Social Listening and Trend-Jacking: Striking the Right Balance The hosts delve into how brands can use advanced social monitoring tools to identify trends, refine their strategies, and increase ROI. They caution against the dangers of "trend-jacking" and the race to viral content, urging marketers to focus on creating authentic, original campaigns that align with their brand values. Generative AI: Creating Better (Not Just More) Content With 83% of marketers using generative AI to accelerate content production, the episode highlights how AI is reshaping the industry. The hosts stress the importance of leveraging AI for quality rather than quantity, emphasising the value of thoughtful, well-crafted content over sheer volume. They also share examples of using AI tools for planning, customer analysis, and segmentation to enhance campaign effectiveness. -- You'll find all links on Show notes: Have any feedback on the show? , tell us what you love and what you think could be better. And, if you are really enjoying the show, please /episode/index/show/targetinternet/id/34909915