The Unstarving Musician

The Unstarving Musician features weekly interviews with independent musicians, songwriters, producers, and music industry professionals who share their experience and expertise on recording, touring, marketing, the business of music, and more. This is all intended to help independent DIY music artists better understand the marketing, business and creative processes that help us create sustainable and profitable music careers.

300 Find New Fans And Supporters Via Podcast Guest Appearances 03/15/2024

300 Find New Fans And Supporters Via Podcast Guest Appearances Finding podcast guest appearance opportunities is a cost-effective way to promote your music, share your ideas, attract new fans, and build meaningful connections. It's also a great way to practice for live radio interviews. In this episode, I cover getting started, how to screen podcasts, giving podcast hosts what they want and need from guests, crafting a compelling guest pitch, being prepared for your interview, the importance of familiarity with the show format, post-interview tips, and more. You can apply the principles discussed in this episode to interview prospecting for radio, blogs, and YouTube. Pretty awesome, right? If you need something for your press page, podcast interviews are a great addition. Find a bonus download for crafting the perfect guest pitch email in the "Mentioned in this Episode" section below. Please enjoy this final episode of The Unstarving Musician. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentioned in this Episode Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/30379513

299 Selling Band Merch, Music, And VIP Packs To Deepen Fan Relationships 03/08/2024

299 Selling Band Merch, Music, And VIP Packs To Deepen Fan Relationships The 2023 Unstarving Musician listener survey indicated that many Unstraving Musician listeners and Liner Notes subscribers were interested in learning more about selling merch and music and how to do it better. Music royalties are a long game, and most musicians won't earn much in royalties in the beginning. An alternative is direct-to-fan music sales. Physical merch and VIP packs are viable means of generating additional revenue for musicians. Furthermore, merch sales can be a way to deepen relationships with your fan base. It can be an opportunity to create new and better experiences for your audience. This podcast episode focuses on physical merch ideas that connect with fans, drop-shipping, on-demand merchandise, crowd-funding and merch ideas, pre-selling, personalized merch, VIP packs, seasonal merch, and more. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/30282213

298 How Musicians Can Create Gigs 03/01/2024

298 How Musicians Can Create Gigs This episode is about how musicians can create gigs. I have written much about finding and booking better gigs, but my perspective has expanded since I started the podcast. If you'd like to read about how I started finding and booking gigs consistently, check out The Unstarving Musician's Guide To Getting Paid Gigs. This episode is inspired a strategy fellow musician Arlene Paculan (featured in episode 112) shared with me and how it has applied to my world. Arlene shared the idea of creating gigs. Her approach lead to Arline performing regularly and winning music awards. I cover details of Arlene's strategy, first-hand experience creating gigs, house concerts, open jams, gig swaps, awards events, volunteering, press kits, online booking resources, and more. I know from experience that the strategies discussed in this episode can help musicians create gigs. Hopefully the discussion will inspire you to create gigs. If you have experience creating gigs, contact me. I'd love to hear your story. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/30153488

297 Leveraging Your Email List 02/23/2024

297 Leveraging Your Email List Whether your art is in music or some other realm, leveraging your email list is paramount. Email marketing is a topic near and dear to my heart. Once you have an established email list, the easiest way to leverage it is by sending regular emails to subscribers. They are your supporters, after all. Begin by considering how often you will send emails. In my experience, this can be a challenging commitment to meet, but you can change the frequency if you initially over commit. Consistency is key. Subscribers will lose interest in you and possibly even forget about you if your emails are irregular or infrequent. This episode covers getting started, planning ahead with an editorial content calendar, email topic examples, the anatomy of newsletter emails, why email works so well for creating deep connection with supporters, the peril of relying on social media alone, how your email list can help you make money, ConvertKit as an email platform for audience building, and more. Please enjoy this episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever podcasts are found. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/30071458

296 Julia A. Miller, Delmark Records – The Evolution of Delmark's Business Model, How Labels Can Serve As Business Partners To Musicians, And Practical Advice For Leveraging Your Record Label In May 2018, Julia A. Miller became the CEO & President of Delmark Records LLC. That same year, Delmark Records LLC purchased Delmark, the oldest continuously operating jazz and blues independent record label in the United States. Delmark was founded in St. Louis, Missouri in 1953. Julia and company celebrated Delmark's 70th anniversary by releasing a 70th Blues Anthology and a forthcoming 70th Jazz Anthology. In this conversation, Julia shares with me her background in music and academia, the evolution of Delmark's business model, how labels can serve as a business partner, how musicians can best leverage their labels for business, the challenges Delmark faces as a medium size international business, the role of labels in music publishing, pre and misconceptions faced by women business executives, the value of networking for women in business, the next 5 years, and more. Please enjoy my conversation with Julia A. Miller of Delmark Records. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/29973468

295 Tracee Perrin – The Evolution Of Her New Single (Poison In The Water), Nashville's Population Explosion, So Far Sounds, Self Care For The Voice, Musical Theater, 2024 Release Plans & Strategy is a graduate of the Musicians Institute (MI) in Hollywood, where she learned how to produce and engineer her own music. In 2010 Tracee was accepted into the ASCAP Lester Sill Songwriters Workshop, an experience she says reinforced her desire to build a career in music. Tracee has its roots in the Los Angeles, but now lives in Nashville. She has a new single out called "Poison In The Water," that will be part of a forthcoming EP, her first body of work in over 10 years. We talk about the evolution of her new single Poison In The Water, Nashville's population explosion, her So Far Sounds performances, her experience in musical theater, self care for the voice, her 2024 release plans and strategy. I also ask Tracee what slows her down the most and what inspires her. You can find Traccee's music at music and TraceePerrinMusic on Facebook and Instagram. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/29865933

294 Athxna – Upcoming Releases & Recording Projects, Signing A New Sync Contract, Working In The Music Business, Moving To Nashville, The Blues Music Dilemma, Style Influences, Social Media Strategy is a Nashville-based, New Orleans-raised R&B pop singer who started her musical journey on piano at age five. She has a new release coming very soon, recording sessions in her home town of New Orleans, and plans to release more music this year. Athxna has a new sync contract, which she attributes to pursuing a music business education and career. She works for an all female PR firm based in Nashville and has a bachelor's degree in music industry. Athxna is methodically designing a life and career within the music business. We talk about her upcoming recording projects, her new sync contract, working in the music business, why she moved to Nashville, blues music, fashion and style, social media and more. You can find links to Athxna's work and social media at . Please enjoy my conversation with Athxna. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/29719988

293 Ady Parzentny – Home Recording, Production Mentoring, Morocco, Ady's YouTube Channel, History of Mobile Recording, Arc of a Recording Career, Social Inequality and Misconceptions 01/26/2024

293 Ady Parzentny – Home Recording, Production Mentoring, Morocco, Ady's YouTube Channel, History of Mobile Recording, Arc of a Recording Career, Social Inequality and Misconceptions Ady Parzentny of has recorded with a mobile studio in the desert of Morocco, and has audio mixing and production course content on PromixAcademy.com. Ady says he does what he does to make the world a better place by helping people make good records, go on tour, and do what they love. As a Mixing Engineer & Music Producer, Ady works with Musicians World Wide in Pop, Rock, Jazz, and World Music Fusions. Ady works with world-class musicians like Nani Vazana that hit #10 on the European World Music Charts, Mehdi Nassouli, and Karim Ziad, who plays with bands like Snarky Puppy. Our conversation leads me to believe that Ady's a lovely human being, an impression that I'm confident you'll agree with. In this conversation, Ady and I talk about home recording, production mentoring, drum recording technique, morocco, recording in less-than-ideal conditions, Ady's YouTube channel, the history of mobile recording, the arc of Ady's recording career, business coaching, Social inequality and Misconceptions, and more. Please enjoy my conversation with Ady Parzentny of Hit The Road Studio. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes ) Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/29656368

292 Terry Carleton – Remixing Vince Guaraldi Peanuts Cartoon Soundtracks, Bones & Knives Recording Studios, Meeting the Mendelson's, and the Arc Of Terry's Music Career 01/19/2024

292 Terry Carleton – Remixing Vince Guaraldi Peanuts Cartoon Soundtracks, Bones & Knives Recording Studios, Meeting the Mendelson's, and the Arc Of Terry's Music Career Terry Carleton of has recorded music for major TV shows, indy films, commercials for radio, and, in some cases, has led to helping clients procure major record deals. Terry studied classical, jazz, and composition on full scholarship. Playing in bands for the better part of 40 years. Has played live with many notables, including rockabilly legend Link Wray, pop and gospel vocalist Maria Muldaur, and jazz B3 icon Tony Monaco. As a member of Daddy-O, Terry helped back The Drifters, The Coasters, The Platters, The Marvelettes, Al Wilson, and Motown pioneer Mary Wells, to name a few. Terry has also recorded drums for Giraffe, Kevin Gilbert, Robert Ferris, and the British Progressive rock band Camel and continues to co-write songs with their frontman, Andy Latimer. He's performed with The Beach Boys' Al Jardine, Johnny Lee, Norton Buffalo, Jewel Akens, and Carey Ott, whose recordings from Bones and Knives have been featured on TV shows like "Grey's Anatomy" and "Unnecessary Roughness." Most recently, Terry was commissioned by Sean Mendelson, whose dad is the late-great Lee Mendelson, the original producer of the iconic Peanuts Cartoons, to remix over 150 original Vince Guaraldi recordings from his Charlie Brown cartoon soundtracks, most recent being A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving (50th Anniversary Edition). We talk about his work on the Vince Guaraldi / Charlie Brown recordings, Bones & Knives Recording Studios, His Collection of odd instruments, meeting the Mendelsons, the arc of Terry's career, and more. Learn more about Terry's studio and career at . Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes (video playlist) Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/29552538

291 Jennifer Roig Francoli – Making Great Music with Ease, Alexander Technique, Getting Stuck, Performance Anxiety, Thinking Less, Over-Doing 01/05/2024

291 Jennifer Roig Francoli – Making Great Music with Ease, Alexander Technique, Getting Stuck, Performance Anxiety, Thinking Less, Over-Doing Jennifer Roig Francoli is a violinist, coach for musicians, and Creator of The Art of Freedom Method for Conscious Living and Masterful Artistry. She's had multiple solo appearances at Carnegie Hall and with orchestras such as the Pittsburgh and Berlin Symphony Orchestras. Jennifer is also a former Associate concertmaster and soloist for the Grammy-Award winning baroque ensemble Apollo's Fire, former faculty at the Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music at the University of Cincinnati and Xavier University, a prize-winning medical researcher on Alexander Technique for surgeons published, and founder of The Alexander Technique Guild of Ohio. Jennifer now helps musicians overcome physical and emotional obstacles to a joyful, successful musical life. Students of her private and group coaching programs learn how to free themselves from pain, tension, and performance anxiety, so they can enjoy doing what they love with ease. Jennifer played professionally at a high level and at an early age. She gave up playing violin to pursue spiritual practices and raise a family. Aspects of physical pain and creative void crept into her life. She eventually discovered Alexander Technique, became an instructor and practitioner, and rediscovered her love of violin. She has a new book, "Make Great Music with Ease: The Secret to Smarter Practice, Confident Performance, and Living a Happier Life." We talk about her book, self publishing, attributing challenge to her personal turnaround, teaching Alexander Technique, musician taboo of admitting pain, getting stuck, fear, courage, performance anxiety, thinking less, over-doing, and more. Please enjoy my conversation with Jennifer Roig Francoli. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/29350668

290 Lars Deutsch – Boum Dans L’Espace, Collecting Sounds, Retro Sci-Fi, the Slightly Out of Tune, Storytelling Effect of Weirdness & Humor, AI in Music, Thinking Less 12/22/2023

290 Lars Deutsch – Boum Dans L’Espace, Collecting Sounds, Retro Sci-Fi, the Slightly Out of Tune, Storytelling Effect of Weirdness & Humor, AI in Music, Thinking Less LA-based producer recently released a whimsical album called “Boum Dans L’Espace." He also created a series of short videos for the project, inspired by his appreciation for early sci-fi and the slightly out-of-tune. Lars is a two-time Emmy winner whose bio reads like this: "He went from heavy metal guitarist to singer, to songwriter, to a Masters in classical composition, to international performances of his classical works, to lecturing in composition and audio production to scoring three hundred films/commercials that have collected over one hundred awards." Lars' commercial work has been featured in everything from Toyota ads to Stephen King’s “The Passenger." You can also hear about his work and working with him in episode 216, featuring singer-songwriter Amiena. Lars and I discuss his new release and video shorts, collecting sounds, retro sci-fi inspirations, the charm of slightly out of tune, the storytelling effect of weirdness & humor, using socials for fun rather than promotion, thoughts on AI in music, artist development, Dolby Atmos, and the biohacking perspective of thinking less. Please enjoy my conversation with Lars Deutsch. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes (Use discount code TUM20 to get up to 50% off!) Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/29187153

289 Miss Velvet – Her New Album, Childhood In New York, George Clinton, Meditation, Working With Esjay Jones, Fashion Inspiration, And Led Zeppelin 12/08/2023

289 Miss Velvet – Her New Album, Childhood In New York, George Clinton, Meditation, Working With Esjay Jones, Fashion Inspiration, And Led Zeppelin channels vocal styles like Janis Joplin and Robert Plant into a unique sound that comes through loud and clear on her new solo album "Traveler." The New York native has performed in over 100 cities worldwide, including an opening tour for George Clinton. She's entered a new stage in life and career as a mother with a changed outlook on life and a fresh sense of style. Miss Velvet is well known for her sense of fashion and performance style, making her a throwback gift to rock & roll. We talk about her new solo album "Traveler," childhood In New York, touring with George Clinton, meditation, working with producer Esjay Jones, fashion inspiration, Led Zeppelin, and more. Learn more about Miss Velvet at . Please enjoy my conversation with Miss Velvet. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode of the was sponsored by Magic Mind. I struggle to keep my energy level steady, especially in the afternoon. I love coffee, but try not to drink it after 10:30 in the morning. Consistently creating new podcast episodes, subscriber emails, videos and new music requires a lot of focus. Thank goodness I found Magic Mind! I've decided it's the perfect afternoon fix for my energy/focus needs. Magic Mind has a short list of high quality ingredients that will intrigue and likely help you. I think Matcha may be the difference maker for me. Matcha is basically nature’s extended-release version of caffeine. I really like the taste of Magic Mind, and I felt good after taking it. I encourage you to check it out, especially if you struggle to stay focused some days. Starting in January, you will find it in Sprouts Farmers Market stores across the country. If you have a Sprouts store nearby, get down there and grab a few bottles to try. After you’re hooked, you can get a subscription w/up to 50% off w/my discount code. Visit and use discount code TUM20 to get up to 50% off! This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28963813

288 Johnny Burgin – Queretaro Mexico, The Queretablues Festival, His Guitar Masterclass And YouTube Channel, Moving to Memphis, Leaving Chicago, And His Forthcoming Album 12/01/2023

288 Johnny Burgin – Queretaro Mexico, The Queretablues Festival, His Guitar Masterclass And YouTube Channel, Moving to Memphis, Leaving Chicago, And His Forthcoming Album has been making waves in the U.S. and abroad as a blues player entrenched in the Chicago blues style. He has performed and recorded with blues legends like Tail Dragger, Sam Lay, Billy Boy Arnold, and Pinetop Perkins. Johnny made a name for himself in the late 90s in Chicagoland blues clubs, a record deal with Delmark, and several European tours. He plays on average more than 200 shows a year, which is why he has such an appreciation for the stage, audiences, and other blues players. I performed with Johnny in and around Queretaro last month, the pinnacle of which was a headlining performance at the Queretablues Festival. This week I received a message from Johnny to ask what I thought about doing some shows with him in Mexico City, so to be continued (possibly). We recorded this conversation at the end of a busy ten days here in Queretaro while enjoying cervezas Bohemia, after which we went out for local cuisine. Johnny was feeling a little off and his last morning with us here in Queretaro, I think he was just experiencing a bit of exhaustion or perhaps still acclimating to our altitude. I've since gathered he made it home feeling great. Johnny is a lot of fun to perform and hang with. He's still showing me the ropes of Chicago blues, which is an exercise in restraint from my improvisational ways. But it's also an education in nuance. We talk about Queretaro Mexico, The Queretablues Festival, his guitar masterclass (at the Queretablues Festival), his YouTube channel, moving to Memphis, leaving Chicago, and his forthcoming album. Please enjoy my tipsy conversation with Johnny Burgin. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes (Soundcloud) Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28870103

287 Andy McCluskey – The New OMD Album "Bauhaus Staircase", Stunning New Videos, Memories Of The First OMD Gig, Art, Politics, Dark Waves Festival, Liverpool F.C. 11/17/2023

287 Andy McCluskey – The New OMD Album "Bauhaus Staircase", Stunning New Videos, Memories Of The First OMD Gig, Art, Politics, Dark Waves Festival, Liverpool F.C. Andy McCluskey is a founding member and lead vocalist of . His band has sold over 40 million records worldwide. They are electronic synth pioneers and one of Britains' best-loved pop groups. OMD conquered the United States with their 1986 hit, "If You Leave" from the Pretty In Pink soundtrack. They have also achieved 12 top 20 hits on the UK Singles Chart and three top 20 hits on the US Billboard Hot 100. Following the celebration of their 40th anniversary last year, OMD have released their first new studio album since the 2017 release of The Punishment Of Luxury, a record entitled Bauhaus Staircase. The new album dropped on October 27th, 2023. The press release says Bauhaus Staircase is OMD's most explicitly political record; however Andy tells me that art and politics have always been at the forefront of their songwriting themes. Like many artists, Andy rediscovered his creativity, thanks to the boredom of lockdown. We talk about this, plus their new album, the band's stunning new music videos, memories of the first OMD gig, art, politics, OMD's participation in the forthcoming Dark Waves Festival, Liverpool F.C., and the longevity of his voice. It was a great pleasure speaking with Andy. Our time went too fast, but what can we do. He's very busy with interviews, concerts and various media projects. Find the new album and all things OMD at omd.uk.com. Please enjoy my conversation with Andy McCluskey of OMD. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28679733

286 The Vintage Yell – Working As A New Band, Writing And Recording New Music, Release Strategy, Mesquite St. Records 11/10/2023

286 The Vintage Yell – Working As A New Band, Writing And Recording New Music, Release Strategy, Mesquite St. Records My guests, Chris Raspante and Jesse Spradlin, are The Vintage Yell. Chris appeared in episode 2 and episode 186 of The Unstarving Musician, which are among the most popular for the podcast. Chris and Jesse joined forces to form The Vintage Yell somewhat recently and have a lot of new music coming soon. You can find their new single "Goin' On Swinging" at . Jesse, Chris and I had a great conversation. I especially enjoyed their discussion of The Vintage Yell launch party and their coming-out strategy. We also discuss working together as a new band, writing and recording new music, release strategy, Mesquite Street Records, and more. On a side note, Chris performed on, recorded and mastered my singles "On Top Of The World" and "New Gods Part 2." You can hear both songs at . He is a talented guy, as is his new bandmate Jesse Spradlin. Here's me talking with Chris and Jesse of The Vintage Yell. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28570703

285 Johnny Burgin (Rewind) – Chicago Blues, Music Festivals, The Magic Of The Stage, Pinetop Perkins 10/27/2023

285 Johnny Burgin (Rewind) – Chicago Blues, Music Festivals, The Magic Of The Stage, Pinetop Perkins This is a rewind episode featuring blues guitarist . What is a rewind episode? It's a previously published episode, one of my favorites, and one that I think merits re-publishing. I give these episodes a fresh edit, which means you will find it even more enjoyable from a listening perspective. Johnny Burgin, the coast-to-coast (intercontinental) Chicago blues man, first appeared in episode 31 back in December of 2017. We performed a house concert on February 11 2020 at Tranquilo Retreat in Panama. He's coming to Querétaro to perform the 9th annual Querétablues Festival, which you can find on Facebook @BluesFestQro. I have the honor of being part of his band for the festival. We'll also do some private shows and one secret show while he's here. My conversation with Johnny was truly great. I'm so happy I re-listened to it for this special rewind edition. Johnny is the real deal where blues guitar is concerned. We discuss his history as a musician, and his philosophy on blues, music, and the stage. We also talk about some of his international tour adventures, relationships with blues players in Chicago, Silicon Valley, and around the world, Pinetop Perkins, the Chicago Blues Festival, and more. Find Johnny's upcoming tour dates and music at . Please enjoy this rewind conversation with Johnny Burgin. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28443536

284 JR Richards – Dishwalla, His Tenth Album Forthcoming, Email Marketing, List Building, E-Commerce, Touring, Adapting To Changes In The Music Business, Spotify Discovery Mode 10/20/2023

284 JR Richards – Dishwalla, His Tenth Album Forthcoming, Email Marketing, List Building, E-Commerce, Touring, Adapting To Changes In The Music Business, Spotify Discovery Mode One of the best voices in rock has been used to describe J.R. Richards. He's the original singer of Dishwalla, one of my favorite bands to emerge in the 90s. Richards has sold millions of records, written some chart-topping hits and has toured globally. Perhaps his most noteworthy accomplishment was writing "Counting Blue Cars," which he performed and recorded with Dishwalla. That song won the Billboard "Rock Song of the Year" award in 1996 and two ASCAP awards for "Song of The Year" in 1997 and 1998. Richards has also recorded a few solo albums and is on the cusp of releasing his next album, the 10th in his career. I only recently became acquainted with his solo work because I was looking for an acoustic cover of "Counting Blue Cars" for an acoustic 80s/90s covers project. I found an acoustic version, but when I saw the singer on that acoustic version, it occurred to me that it wasn't the original guy. Down the rabbit hole, I went. I don't know who the new singer is. He's good, but I'm definitely partial to Richards' voice. So I found his solo work, website and lots of other info about him that I never knew. I loved Dishwalla, but I'm not what you'd call a super fan. I lost track of the band after they stopped releasing new stuff. But I am a big fan, so I was stoked when JR agreed to an interview. Speaking with him was kinda weird. The time passed so quickly! I spend most of our time nerding out with him about e-commerce, the importance of email lists and other topics I typically pursue on the podcast. I ended up with several questions that we never got to. The other thing is that he's a 'normal' person, a dad and husband; a very talented normal person, but just a guy. I don't know what I expected, but I enjoyed speaking with him. Richards is as kind and humble as any other indie musician I've ever had on the podcast. We talked about Dishwalla, his forthcoming record, email marketing, e-commerce, touring, adapting to changes in music, Spotify Discovery Mode, SOME of his work as a producer, what he's got cooking in the near future, and more. Find everything JR is up to at JRRrichardsMusic.com. Please enjoy my conversation with JR Richards, the original singer of Dishwalla. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28372592

283 Susan Rogers – The Neuroscience Of Music Preferences, Prince, Analyzing The Techniques Of Frank Sinatra, The Progression of Production Approaches, Leaving The Music Business For Academia, Working With Barenaked Ladies Susan Rogers teaches Music Production and Engineering at The Berklee College of Music (Berklee Online). She holds a doctorate in psychology from McGill University, where she studied music cognition and psychoacoustics. Her research focuses on auditory memory, the perception of musical signals, and the influence of musical training on auditory development. For two decades before her science career, Rogers was one of the few women known for her work as a record producer, engineer, mixer, and audio electronics technician. Susan's career highlights include years (1983–1988) as a staff engineer for recording artist Prince, also working with Barenaked Ladies, David Byrne, Tricky, and Tevin Campbell. My guest relations advisor sent me an NPR interview with Susan in which she talks about her book "This Is What It Sounds Like: What The Music You Love Says About You." After learning about the book and her career, I invited Susan to the podcast, and she graciously accepted. My research for this interview involved checking out some of Susan's other interviews. I noticed she always gets guestions about Prince. Leading up to the interview, I figured she'd talked about Prince ad nauseam, but then I realized she loves discussing this part of her career. She feels lucky to have worked with Prince and wants to help keep his legacy alive. Even so, I didn't want to focus too much on Prince, but I did plan one Prince-question, so we did talk about him. We also talk about the neuroscience of music preferences, analyzing the techniques of Frank Sinatra, the progression of production approaches, leaving the music business for academia, working with Barenaked Ladies, how music functions for listeners today, and much more. Learn more about the book "This Is What It Sounds Like," by Dr Susan Rogers at . Please enjoy my conversation with Susan Rogers. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28303037

282 Rory Kenny of Loudly – The Roll-Out Of Loudly, Inspiration For Moving Into AI, The Loudly Roadmap, Business And Hiring Challenges, Use Cases, Assembling The Ideal Team, Copyright, Future Of Music And AI Rory Kenny is a co-founder and CEO of , a platform that helps create AI-generated music in seconds for your videos, social channels, advertising media, podcasts, apps, and more. It's 100% royalty-free and easy to use. Every sound on Loudly is human-made and restructured as samples, loops, and stems. Loudly allows users to download stems from AI-generated tracks and use them in their projects on their DAW of choice. The predominantly web-based app rolled out about five months ago as I record this episode intro. We talk about the product roll-out, Rory's inspiration for co-founding Loudly, the company roadmap, business challenges, use cases, the Loudly mobile app, finding the ideal team members, copyright, the future of music and AI, and more. No matter what you think about AI, this conversation and the trends that will follow are well worth our time and attention. If you have follow-up questions, I know Rory is open to hearing from you, and you can certainly send your questions to me. I'd be happy to follow up with Rory on your behalf. Check out Loudly at . Please enjoy my conversation with Rory Kenny of Loudly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other audio platforms. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28240271

281 Garry Peterson of The Guess Who – A New Album, Touring, History of The Guess Who, Garry's Drum Gear, Facts or Fiction, Advice for Young Players 09/29/2023

281 Garry Peterson of The Guess Who – A New Album, Touring, History of The Guess Who, Garry's Drum Gear, Facts or Fiction, Advice for Young Players is a founding member and drummer of The Guess Who. Garry has been making music for over six decades. Garry also performed with Bachman Turner Overdrive, during their support of the Van Halen 5150 Tour, a show I attended long ago. He has to his credit fifteen albums that have charted on the Billboard 200, fourteen singles that have charted on Billboard’s Top 40, including two #1’s, three Gold Singles, and three Gold Albums as certified by RIAA. Garry plays drums on their new album Plein D' Amour and plans to record on the next Guess Who album. He still tours with the band, which promoted me to tell him that he is practically a Rolling Stone. He reminded me that he his music career started around the same time as The Stones. We discuss his long career, the new Guess Who album, the band history, his drum gear, facts versus fiction about The Guess Who, Garry's advice to young players, and more. I thoroughly enjoyed speaking with Garry. He is such a nice guy. We experienced some connectivity issues that resulted in a slightly lower audio quality than I strive to provide you with, but I'm confident that you will still get a great deal of enjoyment and value from our conversation. Hear the new album by The Guess Who at and music services everywhere. Here is me talking with Garry Peterson of The Guess Who. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28172594

280 Nichole Wagner – Journalism, Photography, Moving To Austin, Rebooting Her Patreon, Drive-by Poetry, Perceived Roadblocks To Making Music, House Concerts 09/22/2023

280 Nichole Wagner – Journalism, Photography, Moving To Austin, Rebooting Her Patreon, Drive-by Poetry, Perceived Roadblocks To Making Music, House Concerts has a new album titled Plastic Flowers coming soon. The Austin-based songwriter released her first album in 2018. Her music is blends soulful country-rock with funky Americana sounds. She comes from the small town of Louviers, Colorado, studied Journalism at Arizona State University, eventually landing in Austin. We talk about this, plus rebooting her Patreon, a college correspondent gig with Spin Magazine, drive by poetry, perceived roadblocks to writing music and learning to play guitar, house concerts, birthday show July 2023, a couple of favorite songwriters, love of stationary, and mutual acquaintances. You can find all things Nichole Wagner at . Please enjoy our conversation on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and all the other podcast places. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28088390

279 Alyssa Trahan – Moving to Nashville, Sound Engineering, Endorsements, Sponsors, Crowdfunding, Marketing, Merch, and the Biggest Lesson She'd Learned in Nashville 09/15/2023

279 Alyssa Trahan – Moving to Nashville, Sound Engineering, Endorsements, Sponsors, Crowdfunding, Marketing, Merch, and the Biggest Lesson She'd Learned in Nashville is the featured artist in this Rewind episode. What's a Rewind episode? It's a previously published episode, one of my favorites and merits re-publishing. I also give these episodes a fresh edit, which means you will find it even more enjoyable from a listening perspective. Nashville based singer songwriter Alyssa Trahan first appeared in episode 18 (2017), which is remarkable because the depth of our conversation rivals anything I've done to date, as do the accomplishments Alyssa had made at her then age of 22. Topics covered in our conversation include why she moved to Nashville from Rochester NY, her latest single (at the time), sound engineering, endorsements, sponsors, crowdfunding, her education, gigs that pay the bills, business and marketing, merch, and the biggest lesson she'd learned to date. Find all things Alyssa Trahan at . Please enjoy this conversation with me and Alyssa Trahan. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/28036899

278 Kayana – Drip Release Strategy, Self Forgiveness, Dating, a Short Film Commission, and a Creative Retreat that Gave Her the Theme and Outline for Her Forthcoming Album 09/08/2023

278 Kayana – Drip Release Strategy, Self Forgiveness, Dating, a Short Film Commission, and a Creative Retreat that Gave Her the Theme and Outline for Her Forthcoming Album New York City based singer and multi-instrumentalist Kayana recently dropped a new single and has more on the way. Kayana is an emerging music artist who fuses pop, R&B and afro-beat with trap-like production style. The music of her forthcoming album delve into personal matters of family, romance and self acceptance. We talk about her latest single, drip release strategy, her manager, finding a producer through collaboration, balancing a full-time job with music, performing frequency, finding her musical lane, how a creative retreat lead to the theme and outline of her forthcoming album, self-forgiveness and dating advice, a short film commission gig, and more. Find all things Kayana at KayanaMusic.com. Please enjoy my conversation with Kayana. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27975741

277 Sam J Garfield – His New Song "Monsters," Getting Started as a Sound Engineer, and How to he Attracts Opportunity 09/01/2023

277 Sam J Garfield – His New Song "Monsters," Getting Started as a Sound Engineer, and How to he Attracts Opportunity My guest is singer, songwriter, producer Sam J Garfield. He has a new self-produced single out called "Monster." Sam is an actor turned sound engineer and music producer. He's now leaning into songwriting and releasing his own music. Sam is taking a break from a very long stretch of working nonstop. Apparently he was working so to an extent that people around him were concerned. But Sam's young, learning that life's not only about working all the time. He also seems to be learning a lot about himself. He shares a lot of reflection and introspection, and I think he's working things out. We also talk about his new song "Monsters," finding therapy in Monsters (the single), getting started as a sound engineer, how to he attracts opportunity as a producer, and more. My favorite part of our conversation is toward the end, where he tells me how he attracts opportunities as a producer. He's young, yet old-school. This part of our conversation serves as a great reminder that old-school works. Find all things Sam J Garfield on Instagram @SamJGarfield. Please enjoy my conversation with Sam J Garfield on Apple Podcasts and all the other podcast places. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27907797

276 JJ Lovegrove – A New Album with Minus Cube, a Forthcoming Complimentary Film, Identifying as a Performer, Fighting the Spotify Algorithm, and Deep Connections on Twitter 08/25/2023

276 JJ Lovegrove – A New Album with Minus Cube, a Forthcoming Complimentary Film, Identifying as a Performer, Fighting the Spotify Algorithm, and Deep Connections on Twitter refers to herself as the dark dream pop sidekick to Minus Cube. The Nottingham, England-based songwriter has a new collaboration with Minus Cube, which dropped very recently. You can check it out on Bandcamp and other music platforms. The new album is titled "The Lines We Leave Behind" and is Lovegrove's first full-length album. She previously released a series of singles and the EP "things Only THE daRk knows," much of which was in collaboration with Minus Cube. In this conversation, JJ (aka Judi) talks about her new album and the forthcoming complimentary film, navigating untruths and loss, the changed landscape of touring, identifying as a performer first, the deep connections she's made on Twitter (X), fighting the Spotify algorithm, and more. Judi is so much fun to speak to and she has the voice of a dark angel. Find all of JJ Lovegrove's music and more at . Enjoy my conversation with JJ Lovegrove on Apple Podcasts and all the other podcast places. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27843366

275 Worth Weaver – Embracing EMO, the Heaviness of alltheprettythings, Learning the Studio, Changes in Recording Technology, and the Hard Work of Social Media 08/18/2023

275 Worth Weaver – Embracing EMO, the Heaviness of alltheprettythings, Learning the Studio, Changes in Recording Technology, and the Hard Work of Social Media Worth Weaver is a guitarist for the Wilmington, North Carolina-based rock band . Worth is also a producer and an experienced touring guitarist, working with the bands He Is Legend and Thousand Foot Krutch. He loves music and he loves music production. He in fact lives and breathes music. When he's not producing, recording, and playing, he works sound gear at the music company Mojo Tone with one of his bandmates. Alltheprettythings had recently released a single called I Want You Back when Worth and I recorded this conversation. And they have an album coming soon. We talk about all this, and working remotely as a band, latest single I Want You Back, forthcoming album, embracing EMO, the formation of alltheprettythings, genre-fication (EMO), musical influences, learning the studio, and all the changes in recording technology, the heaviness of his band, Trent Reznor, Rick Ruben, Glyn Johns, working hard on socials and being ok with it, day gig w/Mojo Tone, and more. Learn more about Worth and his band at . Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27769089

274 David Lane – Discovering Music Composition, Collaboration, Teaching, and Podcasting 08/11/2023

274 David Lane – Discovering Music Composition, Collaboration, Teaching, and Podcasting teaches piano, composition, and music theory. He's composed over 100 concert works, and several films, and has been the arranger for several dozen works. David is scheduled to serve as Vice President of the Winston-Salem Piano Teachers Association starting in the summer of 2023 and currently is the Chair of Composition and Theory for the North Carolina Music Teachers Association. As an instructor, David specializes in teaching piano to adult beginners, teaching music theory to all ages, and offering some conventional as well as non-conventional approaches to learning composition. He hosts two podcasts, one called The Musician Tool Kit with David Lane and another called Life In The Pit, on which he explores the work of theater musicians. The Musician Tool Kit podcast is a vehicle through which David shares the theme that musicianship is passion and various topics related to musician development. We talk about his podcasts, his discovery of music composition, collaboration, teaching, and podcasting. Additional topics of conversation include David's self-perception as an accidental musician, his unorthodox career path, the value of supporting other musicians, and aligning core values with one's career path. Find David's work at DavidLaneMusic.com. Please enjoy my conversation with David Lane. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27714432

273 Minus Cube – Capturing Recording Studio Processes, Maintaining the Joy of Making Music, Ongoing Journey of Learning Production, Recording Studio Setup, Collaborating with JJ Lovegrove Minus Cube is a songwriter and studio engineer. He's had a busy year in 2023 mixing and producing five singles and an album. Much of that work was in collaboration with friend and fellow music artist JJ Lovegrove. Minus Cube and I had a long and pleasant conversation, covering his busy year, capturing studio processes, maintaining a sense of enjoyment in music, the occasional struggle to stay excited, reinventing his creative output, his production learning journey, collaborating with JJ Lovegrove, playing drums, solo works, his recording setup, and his outlook for the rest of the year. Find the music of Minus Cube on Bandcamp at . Please enjoy my conversation with Minus Cube. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27652002

272 Max Frye – Lessons of a Working Musician, The Formation of Lost Hearts, Performing Unreleased Songs, Release Strategy, Record Label Interests, Merch, Striving for Improvement 07/28/2023

272 Max Frye – Lessons of a Working Musician, The Formation of Lost Hearts, Performing Unreleased Songs, Release Strategy, Record Label Interests, Merch, Striving for Improvement My guest Max Frye fronts the band Lost Hearts. He and his bandmates have a pop sensibility with a big rock sound. Max comes across as humble and grounded, possibly because he's worked with many musicians who are more experienced than himself. This is an experience we share. Lost Hearts formed earlier this year and thus consider themselves a very new band. At their core, the band members are working musicians that have played in plenty of cover and tribute bands. They now perform and tour as an original band, although they still mix in some of their favorite covers. In this episode, Max shares the story of how the band came to be, and their early days of songwriting together. We also talk about the band's recent interview on Izzy Presley's Another FN Podcast, which brought them to the attention of heavy metal champion and broadcaster Eddie Trunk, performing unreleased music, his views on pop and big choruses, release strategy, their record label search, lessons learned as a working musician, merch, the upcoming Lost Hearts performance at the Tacos & Tequila Festival in Lubbock Texas, and working toward the next level. Please enjoy my conversation with Max Frye. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. This episode was powered by Podcast Startup If you feel you need a little help getting your podcast started, Podcast Startup is for you. Podcast Startup is a program designed for new podcasters. Did you know that most podcasts don’t make it past their first few episodes? That’s right, they start, they stall, and then they die. Sustaining a podcast ain’t easy. It’s a commitment. Lack of planning and misaligned expectations are a recipe for fast burnout and fade-out for podcasters. This is exactly the kind of thing Podcast Startup was designed to help with. If you’re intrigued if you want to start a podcast the right way, go to to learn more. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27586749

271 Brian Wolff – New EP "The Golden Age," The Value of Open Mics, Social Marketing, Mental Health Awareness, Economics of Music Tours, Songwriter Rounds, EPs or Albums 07/21/2023

271 Brian Wolff – New EP "The Golden Age," The Value of Open Mics, Social Marketing, Mental Health Awareness, Economics of Music Tours, Songwriter Rounds, EPs or Albums is a five-time guest of The Unstarving Musician podcast. Brian has also appeared in episodes 55, 119, 192, and 197. His band, Brian Wolff & The Howlers, has a new EP called The Golden Age. Wolff and his band draw on influences from classic rock, 90’s alternative, and blues. His music features big guitars, pop rhythms, and introspective lyrics. In this conversation, we talk about The Golden Age EP, the value of open mics, social marketing, mental health awareness, the economics of music tours, songwriter rounds, EPs versus albums, and how he rediscovered creativity in the recording studio. Find Brian Wolff and his music at BrianWolffMusic.com. Please enjoy my conversation with Brian Wolff. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit . This episode of the was powered by Liner Notes. Learn from the hundreds of musicians and industry pros I’ve spoken with for the Unstarving Musician on topics such as marketing, songwriting, touring, sync licensing and much more. Sign up for Liner Notes. Liner Notes is an email newsletter from yours truly, in which I share some of the best knowledge gems garnered from the many conversations featured on the Unstarving Musician. You’ll also be privy to the latest podcast episodes and Liner Notes subscriber exclusives. Sign up at . It’s free and you can unsubscribe at anytime. Mentions and Related Episodes Resources , by Robonzo – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music – See the latest deals from Dreamhost, save money and support the UM in the process. Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on and @UnstarvingMusician on and /episode/index/show/unstarvingmusician/id/27519489

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