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The Value of Challenges: Sally McRae on Seeking Out Adversity & Scary Goals

The Strength Running Podcast

Release Date: 05/30/2024

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Imagine a running festival combined with a retreat plus a race thrown in there: That's Jesse Itzler's Runningman. Jesse Itzler is the founder of Runningman and All Day Running Co., a serial entrepreneur, an author, an endurance sports enthusiast, and a 100-mile ultra marathoner. In this episode, we talk about: Translating running's discipline and consistency into other areas of life Sharing the values of health and wellness with children Jesse's approach to long-term running planning Finding the sweet spot of having a plan while being flexible The parallels of 100-mile races and...

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How do we develop new runners, young runners, and master's runners, into great runners? Paul Greer is a professor of Health and Exercise Science at San Diego City College, coach of the San Diego Track Club, and the 2016 and 2024 Team USA Men’s Junior Cross Country coach. With about 40 years of coaching experience, Paul has a lot of wisdom to share for runners from youth to master's levels. His athletes include hundreds of Boston qualifiers, several top age-group competitors, and a handful of Olympic qualifiers. In this episode, we talk about: Reasons for the lack of adult cross-country...

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Kick back for a less structured conversation with my friend Jonathan Levitt, focusing on the big and small real-life issues affecting runners. Jon is a runner, cyclist, and host of For The Long Run Podcast. I like to joke that Jon is the Mayor of Boulder because of his ridiculous network of every single runner who lives within 100 miles. We share a lot of miles on the Boulder trails together and have great, rambling conversations about the running industry and our personal training, like this one. In this episode, we talk about: New running equipment thoughts A silly knee injury: How I’m...

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Most runners have heard of plyometrics, but are they using these exercises effectively to prevent injury and boost performance? Dr. Gaby Go is a Doctorate of Physical Therapy who ran Division 1 Track and Field for the University of Maryland, College Park, and who qualified for the Boston Marathon in her debut marathon. Today, Gaby’s sharing a lot of knowledge around plyometrics for runners with us. In this episode, Gaby and I talk about: The basics of plyos: what they are, who they're for, and what they do Using plyometrics for tendon health, especially the Achilles How plyometrics help...

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Sally McRae is known worldwide for her mental fortitude and ability to push through extreme discomfort.

As a professional mountain and ultra runner for Nike, Sally is a two-time Top 10 Western States finisher, the Badwater 135 Champion, Tarawera 100 Champion, Mozart 100 Champion and Moab 240 Champion. Sally is also an author, podcast host, business owner, and a strength and running coach.

In this episode, Sally and I talk about:

  • The pros of using a treadmill for distance training
  • The whole body needs to be strong for endurance races, not just the muscles
  • How Sally structures strength training depending on the race season to build muscle and endurance
  • Mobility, stretching, and hip and glute work to combat the weakening effects of sedentary lifestyles
  • Training for 200-mile races, including eating and sleeping strategies, gear, and mental prep
  • The mental aspect of long distances can make or break a runner's performance
  • Power hiking and weight training for 200-mile ultra preparation
  • Mental muscles, believing in your potential, and focusing on the story you want to tell yourself
  • Sally's first experience with foot and heel blisters during the Cocodona 250
  • Training for the Western States Endurance Run

Listen to this episode to hear from one of the most hardcore and kindest runners you'll ever meet.

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