Lighting the Path
In this deeply moving episode of Lighting the Path, Jerry Fenter sits down with Jason Rosenthal—attorney turned therapist, author, and widower of acclaimed writer Amy Krouse Rosenthal. Just ten days before her death from ovarian cancer in 2017, Amy published a now-viral New York Times essay titled “You May Want to Marry My Husband.” In it, she lovingly encouraged Jason to find happiness again after she was gone. What followed was an extraordinary public response—and a profoundly personal journey through grief. Jason reflects on what it was like to process loss while...
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In this episode of Lighting the Path, host Jerry Fenter talks with Melissa Lunardini, Chief Clinical Officer at Help Texts, about transforming grief support through technology. Help Texts is a pioneering service that sends thoughtful, personalized messages to people experiencing grief and loss — and just as importantly, to their friends and family who want to offer meaningful support but may not know how. Melissa explains the clinical philosophy behind Help Texts, the models that guide message design, and how the service helps normalize ongoing grief through timely,...
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Children experience grief differently from adults—yet their feelings are just as deep and real. In this episode of Lighting the Path, Melissa Lunardini, Chief Clinical Officer for Help Texts and nationally recognized expert in children’s grief, explores how we can better support children and teens who are grieving. Drawing on her 20 years of experience, Melissa dispels common myths about how children understand and express loss. She shares practical ways adults can offer genuine help without unintentionally causing harm—highlighting specific words and phrases to...
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In this follow-up episode of Lighting the Path, host Jerry Fenter continues the conversation with Kera Sanchez, founder and editor of Get Griefy magazine. Kera shares how the idea for the magazine first came to her—quite literally—in the shower. Though she had no formal background in journalism, her passion for helping others share their stories of grief and loss led her to create a publication that now reaches readers across the globe. Through Get Griefy, people from every walk of life have found a place to express their experiences with loss, healing, and...
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When grief meets creativity, something powerful can emerge. In this episode of Lighting the Path, host Jerry Fenter talks with Kera Sanchez, founder and editor of Get Griefy—a heartfelt online and print magazine that explores grief, healing, and creative expression. Kera begins by sharing the deeply personal story of her mother’s sudden death while traveling abroad. The timing and circumstances brought unique emotional challenges, leaving Kera searching for ways to process the loss. Through that pain, she discovered the healing potential of creative self-expression. Her...
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Licensed professional counselor and grief specialist Chuck Olliff returns to the podcast. Chuck has been leading bereavement support groups for more than 20 years, and in this episode he explains why grief support groups play such an important role in healing and connection after loss. He walks listeners through the six key topics he covers in his six-week virtual grief groups, offering valuable insights for anyone navigating their own grief or supporting others who are. Chuck’s compassionate and practical approach makes the process feel less daunting and more accessible to...
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In this episode of Lighting the Path, host Jerry Fenter welcomes Chuck Olliff, a Licensed Professional Counselor and grief specialist with more than 25 years of experience leading grief support groups. Chuck shares the story of how his journey into grief counseling began unexpectedly — when a local funeral director asked him to facilitate a series of grief groups for families coping with loss. Together, Jerry and Chuck explore the origins and lasting influence of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross’s work on the five stages of grief — denial, anger,...
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In this episode of Lighting the Path, Jerry sits down with Dr. Emma Jones, author of The Phoenix Blueprint, to talk about resilience, burnout, and the emotional tools needed to thrive as a caregiver. Dr. Jones shares what inspired her to write the book and opens up about the real causes of burnout among healthcare professionals—factors that reach far beyond workload and long hours. She introduces the concept of “emotional PPE,” a metaphor she uses to describe the inner armor caregivers need to protect their emotional well-being—just as firefighters use physical protective...
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In this episode of Lighting the Path, hospice and palliative care physician Dr. Emma Jones shares her personal experience of spiraling into burnout and the moment that forced her to confront the depth of her mental and emotional exhaustion. Drawing from her book, The Phoenix Blueprint: Emerging Stronger from the Blaze of Healthcare, she reflects on how perfectionism, overwork, and the culture of silence around clinician distress pushed her past her limits, and how stigma and fear made it difficult to admit she needed help. Emma also talks about early warning signs of...
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In this encore episode, grief specialist Gary Roe discusses how survivors can manage feelings of guilt after the death of a loved one. Roe explores the difference between guilt and regret and offers methods for finding forgiveness and reducing emotional baggage. Guilt vs. Regret Roe explains that while often used interchangeably, guilt and regret are distinct emotions: - Guilt is the feeling we experience when we knowingly do something wrong, usually related to ethical, moral, or legal reasons. - Regret is the emotion we feel when looking back on past actions, realizing we could have handled...
info_outlineChildren experience grief differently from adults—yet their feelings are just as deep and real. In this episode of Lighting the Path, Melissa Lunardini, Chief Clinical Officer for Help Texts and nationally recognized expert in children’s grief, explores how we can better support children and teens who are grieving.
Drawing on her 20 years of experience, Melissa dispels common myths about how children understand and express loss. She shares practical ways adults can offer genuine help without unintentionally causing harm—highlighting specific words and phrases to avoid when comforting younger children.
Melissa also offers two key insights for helping grieving teens, whose needs often differ from younger children and adults alike. While grief touches all ages, she reminds us that the way people need to grieve can differ significantly based on age, development, and emotional capacity.
The episode concludes with a helpful tool Melissa recommends for anyone—parents, teachers, clinicians, or clergy—who walks alongside children and teens in grief.
Key Discussion Points:
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Common misconceptions about how children grieve
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Why language matters: what not to say to grieving children
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Two practical ways to support grieving teens
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Understanding developmental differences in the grieving process
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A practical tool to help children and teens process loss
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