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Mimi Rocah lives in Westchester, New York, with her husband David Anders, a fellow lawyer she met while working as a prosecutor in the Southern District of New York. After working for a few years between college and law school, she attended NYU Law School with the intention of becoming a prosecutor. She completed two clerkships, one for the Eastern District of New York and one for the Second Circuit, before starting at the Southern District of New York in February 2001. Mimi spent 17 years at the Southern District of New York, eventually moving into teaching and legal commentary for...
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Show Notes Thomas Norman grew up in Duluth, Minnesota, before moving to northwestern Wisconsin. He lobbied to add a class period in high school so he could take four years of foreign language, to ensure he was competitive for universities like Harvard. While at Harvard, he focused on social studies and wrote a thesis regarding the economic forces behind NAFTA which led him to his first job. Transitioning to Business Banking After graduating, Thomas worked for Procter and Gamble in Minnesota before transitioning into business banking. He had to take night classes in accounting to learn how to...
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Show Notes: Leo Clark participated in the Jean Monnet Program at Ecole Polytechnique in Paris following his graduation from Harvard. The fellowship was a work-study-travel program focused on the European Union that included seminars and internships. He completed an internship within the operations research department at Air France. He talks about connecting with fellow alumni in Paris and developing his French language skills through immersion. Exotics Trading to Sales and Swaps Marketing Leo explains what exotic derivatives trading is and his experience working in that field....
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Kath Mertens (Kath Ulman) reflects on her life stage, mentioning her 20-year-old son heading to college, her divorce, and her part-time work. She describes feeling on the cusp of a new life phase, similar to when she graduated from Harvard. Becoming a Veterinarian Kath shares her initial career aspirations of becoming a veterinarian and the challenges she faced due to the lack of a pre-vet focus at Harvard. Kath recounts her first post-Harvard job in Jackson, Wyoming, where she worked as a ski bum and later as a wrangler on a dude ranch. She rediscovered her passion for veterinary medicine...
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Show Notes: Kristen Fowler Garland majored in East Asian Studies and Japanese at Harvard. She explains her decision to spend five years in Japan after graduation, including two years with the Japan Exchange and Teaching (JET) program. She describes her experience with the JET program, teaching conversational English in Toyama, and her efforts to learn Japanese. Kristen shares her job search in Japan, landing a position with a foreign subsidiary in Tokyo, where she learned to use Excel in Japanese. Market Research and Field Hockey Kristen recounts her work in market research, tracking the shift...
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Show Notes Clare Scherrer outlines her career journey in three main chapters: 25 years at Goldman Sachs in Investment Banking, a number of years as a public company Chief Financial Officer, and her current role as a director on two public company boards of directors. Clare also shares her life immediately post-graduation, including getting married and completing McKinsey's Business Analyst program in New York City. Love at First Blind Date Clare recounts her initial post Harvard plan to join the Foreign Service and how a blind date led to her getting engaged and pivoting her career path. She...
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Show Notes: Mara Christine (formerly Mara Beverwyk) describes her circuitous path, starting with a job at the Public Interest Research Group (PIRG) in Berkeley, followed by a role in the Oakland public library system. She pursued a library degree in Michigan and returned to New Mexico, where she worked as a school and research librarian. She transitioned to teaching at a Montessori elementary school, earning her certification, and later went to law school at age 46, becoming a prosecutor. A Career Move to Law Mara explains what drew her to the law, and she cites her midlife crisis and...
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Show Notes: Kiki (formerly Karen) Snyder shares her 35-year journey since her breakdown at Harvard, which landed her in restraints at McLean Hospital during exams in 1991. She discusses being misdiagnosed as severely bipolar, the 32 years she lost to toxic psychiatric medications, and the self she rediscovered. "Karen was full of fear and anger. Karen wanted to speak to the manager. But Kiki's in charge now. I am the manager." Learn more about her transformation on Instagram at and at . From Karen to Kiki Kiki elaborates on her transformation from Karen to Kiki. A massage therapist...
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Show Notes: Maya Browne recounts her senior year at Harvard, including writing her thesis "Idealizing Vision" which was about how magazine editors, photographers, and designers had shaped the ideal female form in the 20th century, and additionally another was an article for Essence magazine about eating disorders. It was the first article of its kind that drew data from women of color, and it won an award called the Excellence in Media Merit Award (EMMA). Writing, Modeling, and Playing Violin Maya describes her first job at Details magazine under James Truman, where she handled...
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Show Notes: Chana Gable Selmon explains she joined Harvard as a transfer student in 1990, overlapping two years with the class of 1992. She graduated in 1993 after completing science requirements due to her history concentration. Chana decided to go to medical school at Cornell, followed by an internship in Emergency Medicine at Bellevue NYU and residency at Harvard. Commuting between Jerusalem and New Jersey Chana had her first child in 2000 and continued working as an ER doctor. She describes her experience as a fourth-year resident at Brooklyn Hospital Center during 9/11. She later ...
info_outlineKath Mertens (Kath Ulman) reflects on her life stage, mentioning her 20-year-old son heading to college, her divorce, and her part-time work. She describes feeling on the cusp of a new life phase, similar to when she graduated from Harvard.
Becoming a Veterinarian
Kath shares her initial career aspirations of becoming a veterinarian and the challenges she faced due to the lack of a pre-vet focus at Harvard. Kath recounts her first post-Harvard job in Jackson, Wyoming, where she worked as a ski bum and later as a wrangler on a dude ranch. She rediscovered her passion for veterinary medicine while working on a dude ranch and decided to apply to veterinary school. Kath attended Purdue University for veterinary school, focusing on equine medicine. She discusses the cultural and philosophical split between large animal and small animal veterinary medicine.
Interning at an Equine-only Practice
Kath describes her first job in an equine-only practice in Portland, Oregon, where she had interned as a veterinary student. She faced challenges with her boss, who was not interested in mentoring her, leading to a difficult first year. Kath left the job and worked as a small animal vet for a year and a half, where she enjoyed surgery and surprised herself by enjoying the work. She faced further challenges with her second job due to her outspoken nature and eventually left under less than ideal terms.
Running a Practice and Economic Decisions
Kath decided to open her own practice, despite her initial disinterest in business, due to the lack of equine job opportunities. She ran her own practice for about 22 years, which was profitable but not financially rewarding. Kath scaled back her practice four years ago to work part-time as a small animal vet for Banfield Pet Hospital. She explains the economic reasons behind her decision, including the higher efficiency and pay in small animal medicine.
Training Non-domestic Animals
Kath developed an interest in animal behavior and positive reinforcement training, which led her to attend the International Donkey Wellness Symposium. She learned about training non-domestic animals to participate in medical procedures through positive reinforcement. Kath has been dedicating time to retraining a horse using these methods and teaching others. She discusses the economic differences between equine and small animal medicine, highlighting the higher volume and efficiency in small animal practice.
Women in the Veterinarian Field
The conversation turns to the high percentage of women in veterinary school and asks Kath about the trend. Kath speculates that women might be more willing to work for less pay and that veterinary medicine might be more accommodating for women balancing work and family. She acknowledges the gender gap in pay equity and the challenges women face in various careers. Kath reflects on the importance of women entering the veterinary workforce and the positive impact it has had.
Harvard Reflections
Kath shares her fond memories of organic chemistry and her academic crush on the professor. She recalls advice from her varsity ice hockey team's athletic trainer to the team which was to surround yourself with people who love you, which Kath dismissed at the time but has come to realise the importance of this advice and how it has helped her overcome imposter syndrome and negative self-talk. She emphasizes the value of having supportive people in one's life and how it has positively impacted her mental health and career.
Timestamps:
02:46: Early Career and Veterinary School
07:11: First Job as a Veterinarian
16:29: Starting Her Own Practice
19:47: Interest in Animal Behavior and Positive Reinforcement Training
32:10: Gender Trends in Veterinary Medicine
35:58: Reflections on Harvard and Career Advice
Links:
Website: https://mertensmammals.com/
Instagram: @mertensmammals
*AI transcript and show notes