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The Power of Experimentation in Leadership with Erin Winkler-McCue | Deep Work Out Loud

Deep Work Out Loud

Release Date: 01/13/2026

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Welcome to Deep Work: Out Loud, The thinking that fuels our life, our work, and our leadership. I’m Julie Harris Oliver. This is the podcast where I sit with another professional coach and we do some work around a single concept, piece of inspiration, a topic we’ve seen come up in coaching. If we’re very lucky, while talking about it, we might demonstrate what coaching might look and feel like. But we’ll see how this goes. It’s all an experiment. With any luck, you will leave with something you can apply and use in your work or your life or both.

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00:00 Introduction to Deep Work Out Loud

00:32 Meet Erin Winkler-McCue

01:31 Erin's Journey to Coaching

02:50 The Power of Experimentation

05:13 Real-Life Examples of Experimentation

13:56 Implementing Experiments in Leadership

17:30 Overcoming Self-Doubt in Career Progression

18:08 Crafting Your Own Role

18:47 Testing the Waters in New Roles

20:33 The Importance of Experimentation

22:18 Coaching Strategies and Client Interactions

27:14 Navigating Vulnerability and Boundaries

31:49 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

To find Erin: https://erinwinklermccue.com/