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Living Real in a Shallow World: Dr. Camille Preston on Resilience, Self-Love, and Leadership through Crisis

The Relentless Pursuit of Winning Podcast

Release Date: 11/04/2025

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🔥 Excerpt

When you give yourself the space to fully process and be present with all of it, every breakdown has the potential for a breakthrough.”

⚡ TL;DR

Dr. Camille Preston—business psychologist, author of Living Real, and founder of AIM Leadership—joins Rick Meekins to unpack what it means to lead and live authentically in the midst of compounded crises. From grief and burnout to self-love and leadership, Camille challenges the illusion of success and explores how embracing intensity, presence, and vulnerability can transform both leaders and organizations.

📄 Show Notes

We live in a world that celebrates busy. Hustle harder. Stay on. Move faster. But when the plates you’ve been spinning all come crashing down—when your company’s growing and your parent’s sick, or your next promotion coincides with your kid needing you more than ever—what then?

That’s where Dr. Camille Preston lives and leads.

In this episode of The Relentless Pursuit of Winning, Camille and I dive deep into what she calls living real—the art of showing up fully, especially when life feels impossibly complex. She shares her personal crucible: five deaths in five months that forced her to stop, feel, and rebuild from the inside out. That season taught her that every breakdown hides the seed of a breakthrough if we’re willing to slow down and metabolize the grief instead of boxing it up for later.

Camille unpacks her concept of shallowing—the modern epidemic of emotional avoidance and curated highlight reels—and contrasts it with reeling, the return to depth, connection, and presence. We talk about loneliness as a health crisis, leadership as an act of love, and how dysregulated leaders create dysregulated organizations.

The conversation hits hard on the cost of chronic stress. Founders are great at crisis mode—it’s what built their companies—but few realize that constant activation erodes creativity, culture, and clarity. Camille offers a radical yet practical antidote: pause, breathe, feel, connect. Send a “love bomb.” Step into the sun. Shake off what you’re carrying. Her examples—from Navy SEALs using neurogenic tremoring to executives reclaiming early-morning solitude—illustrate that presence isn’t luxury; it’s leadership infrastructure.

We also confront self-love—why it’s not indulgence but the cornerstone of effective leadership. When leaders truly love themselves, they unlock capacity to love their teams, families, and missions without burnout or resentment. Camille’s own journey from self-criticism to acceptance—learning to embrace her intensity rather than apologize for it—underscores the message: your wholeness is your competitive advantage.

Whether you’re a founder facing compounded crises, an executive trying to hold it all together, or just someone tired of pretending everything’s fine, this episode is your permission to live real.

✅ Key Takeaways

• Compounded crises are invitations to grow, not proof of failure.
• Shallowing disconnects us; reeling restores depth, presence, and empathy.
• Dysregulated leaders create dysregulated organizations—self-care is strategy.
• Intensity, when embraced, becomes intimacy; authenticity breeds connection.
• Self-love amplifies leadership impact—it’s the renewable fuel of resilience.
• Micro-shifts matter: sunlight, breathwork, or a “love bomb” can reset the system.

🧭 Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Living Real
02:53 Navigating Compounded Crises
06:29 The Illusions of Success
10:19 The Importance of Self-Care
14:57 Shallowing vs. Reeling in Relationships
19:42 The Power of Connection and Love Bombs
23:21 Shifting from Success to Authenticity
25:29 Navigating Transitions: The Role of a Relationship Doula
29:08 Embracing Intensity: From Self-Criticism to Self-Acceptance
31:34 Purpose and Alignment: Discovering What Drives Us
34:57 The Journey to Self-Love: Overcoming Self-Criticism
39:53 Practicing Self-Love: Mindfulness and Body Awareness
44:42 Living Real: Insights from the New Book

🎁 Giveaway

Dr. Camille Preston is giving away a signed copy of Living Real: Reclaiming Depth in a Shallow World plus early-beta access to AIM Leadership’s upcoming mobile app for conscious leadership.
To enter:
 1. Follow @DrCamillePreston and @AIMLeadership on LinkedIn.
 2. Comment “I’m ready to live real” on her latest post about the RPOW episode.
The first 10 participants will receive the book and app invite.