Food is One of Life's Greatest Pleasures. Enjoy What You Eat. Just Not too Much. Marion Nestle

Ep 98: On this episode we are grateful to have Marion Nestle. Marion is the Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health, Emerita, at New York University, in the department she chaired from 1988-2003 and from which she retired in September 2017. She is also a Visiting Professor of Nutritional Sciences at Cornell. She earned a Ph.D. in molecular biology and an M.P.H. in public health nutrition from the University of California, Berkeley. She has won numerous awards during her career and has authored, co-authored, or co-edited sixteen books, with her latest one to being released Nov 11th titled What to Eat Now.

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Breakfast: Post Mini Wheats and Blueberries 1:34
Career Path and Marion’s Memoir, Slow Cooked 1:56
- Gives Hope to a Lot of Young Woman
Why Write So Much 3:45
- Food Politics Blog, Top Ten Twitter Account, 16 Books
- Trying to Explain Complicated Issues as Clearly and as Simply as Possible
The Book “What to Eat Now” 5:08
- A 6 month Project Turned into a 4 Year Project because of all that Had Changed in 20 Years
- Now Supermarkets Do Online Deliveries
- Aisles of Coke and Pepsi Replaced by Flavored Waters – Better Nutritionally
Triple Duty Part One: Obesity and Disease. How Did We Get Here? 10:20
- Ronald Reagan Deregulation on Top of Previous Administrations Change in Agricultural Policy
- Farmers Encouraged to Grow More Led to an Increase in the Number of Calories in the Food Supply
- It went from 3,200 per capita per day in 1980 to 4,000 calories per capita per day by 2000
- That brought the Calories in the Food Supply to Twice what the Population Needs on Average
- Food Companies then Had to Sell More, so Food was Introduced into More than Supermarkets
- Larger Portions Have More Calories
- If Somebody gives you a Muffin, you think it has a 100 calories, even if it has 800
- 1981 - the Shareholder Value Movement
- CEO Jack Welch said the SOLE Purpose of a Corporation is to Make Money for Stockholders
- That was the END of Companies who Took Care of their Workers and Communities
- Food companies are Not Social Service Agencies or and Public Health Agencies
- Food Noise: Food Companies Needed to Sell More and Created Ways to Make that Happen
There’s No Profit in Fruits and Vegetables 16:04
- The Consensus: More than Half the Calories in US diets, Even More in Kids, comes from Ultra-processed Foods
- Foods that are Industrially Produced, have Lots of Color, Flavor, and Texture. Are HIGH in Sugar and Salt
- So Much Research Now that Associates Consumption of These Foods in Large Amounts Leads to Poor Health
- Brilliant Marketing – e.g. McDonalds – but Its Not Good for the Kids
How Do We Change the System 18:05
- Change the Way Wall Street Evaluates Corporations
- B Corporations, World Economic Forum Advice or Regulation
- Food Industry Executive at a White House meeting: We would Love to Stop Marketing Our Foods to Kids, We think it's Morally Wrong, but our Stockholders Won't Let Us
Triple Duty, Part Two and Three: Food Insecurity and Climate 20:16
- Healthspan, Lifespan is Decreasing in the US
- What can I do to Change the System? You Have Power. How do you get Power in the US? Money. Elections.
- Can’t Change it Alone. Join Organizations and Lobby
- Never, Never Give Up. Keep Working for What you Think is Right
- SNAP Affects 42M People, Mostly White
- They have Jobs, their Jobs just Don't Pay Enough
- A Significant portion of Walmart Employees Receive SNAP Benefits – Shocking
What Else Has to Change 25:36
- the Externalized Cost of Our CURRENT Food System is Climate Change and Bad Health
- We NEED to Completely Redo Our Agricultural System
- Its Focused on Feed for Animals and Fuel for Automobiles
- In a Country with this Kind of Wealth and We Don't have Good Health Care, we Don't have Clean Air, we Don't have Public Transportation, we Don't have a Great Public School Systems. We SHOULD Have All Those Things.
Food Recommendations 27:25
- Michael Pollan Quote: Eat Food, Not Too Much, Mostly Plants. (and not ultra-processed food)
- Requires Knowing How to Cook – Schools Used to Teach in Home Economics – Not Any More
- We Need an Agricultural System that Promotes Eating Healthfully, Focused on Healthy Diets, Food for People
- Need to be Growing Food Organically and Regeneratively
- Biggest Problem with the American Diet is People Eat Too Much
- Today’s Kids are Overfed
Food in Other Countries 32:23
- Less Snacking Overseas, so Eat Less, Move More
- In the US with our Car Culture it means People are Not Doing as Much Walking or Moving
Food in a Grocery Store 34:29
- What’s a Good Product in the Middle Aisles – Look at the Ingredients
- Most Front of Packing is What Is Not in the Item
- If the List of Ingredients is Long, and the Ingredients are Not Recognizable Food Names, then it's Highly Processed and it's Probably Not Very Good for You
- If it Looks Like It's Too Good To Be True, It Probably Is
- Kids Need to Learn How to Eat Real Food
- Kids Should be Eating What Their Parents Eat If their Parents are Eating Healthy
- School Meals Need More Attention: Some Schools Do It Well, Most Do Not
- We Need More Gardens at Schools – Local Tastes Better
Where to Start 39:08
- Add Some more Plant Foods to Your Diet
- Figure Out Which Ones You Like and Eat Them
- Look at adding Roots, Vegetables, Grains, Beans to Your Diet
- Food is one of life's greatest pleasures. Enjoy what you eat.
The Recipe: Vegetables and Rice 40:53
- Fresh ingredients, freshly prepared, there's nothing better.

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