146 | Why Do People Hate Lawyers... Wait, Okay, Now I Understand

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a, this is a huge, you know, news flash or breaking news that everybody doesn't already know. People don't like lawyers. When I first started to become an attorney and it's become more evident why this is over the last week. I talked about that in a second, but when I first was going to law school, I decided to go to law school. I had, I went to Phoenix, Arizona where I did my first year of law school. I had my truck shipped down there because I had to fly. I can't remember why. Why did that? Is that, uh, drove a u haul down there. That's why. So I had to have a pay somebody to, uh, basically tow my truck down to Phoenix when it got there a couple of days after I arrived. The Guy, I was super nice to him when he pulled up, I was like, Hey, what's going on?

You know, we were just making small talk and he was like, unhooked my truck in front of the house. And uh, he was asking like, what are you doing here? You're moving here, whatever. I was like, Oh, I'm going to start going to law school. He's like, oh, so you're going to be a scumbag. This is the guy hadn't even paid them yet. Like he's still waiting on my tip. He felt comfortable enough calling me a straight up scumbag, uh, within like two seconds of meeting me despite the fact that I was completely nice to him. Um, and I was like, wow, so this is, this is what's to come for how people feel about lawyers. And the more I have gone through the experience of being a lawyer in law school and dealing with people, I understand where a lot of that animosity comes from.

I think a lot of it comes from people that have been divorced. Mostly that's the main issue because there's an attorney on the other side that's just like in your eyes basically tried to destroy your life and um, you know, to the, to the divorce attorneys credit, like that's what they're not supposed to. They're not trying to destroy your life. They're just doing what they're legally required to do, which is get the best possible result for their client. Like they can't think about your situation. That's just how the legal world is laid out so it makes sense that people are going to like hate attorneys, especially in those that have gone through like those life altering, like life changing situations and uh, you've just had an attorney on the other side just like really railing on you and just say shit that maybe you'd think is not true about yourself and messing, messing up your situation with your kids.

And I mean ultimately like it's not necessarily the attorney's fault that everything got messed up, but that's a good person to like point the finger at, at the end rather than, than taking a hard look at yourself. That's kind of what I think happens. People look at the attorneys and think they want to point the finger there instead of instead of really looking in the mirror at their own situation, but the attorneys have responsibility in that as well. But this week, man, not a good week for attorneys. This, there's the, uh, just all the bad things that are happening with attorneys right now in the news. Where do Rudy Giuliani who's just kind of just a disgraceful human being generally I'm just out making a fool of himself like over and over, just straight openly just lying about everything that he could possibly lie about. And this isn't anything politically motivated that I'm saying.

It's just watch what he's doing, watch what he's saying. Everything he says is that a trick back and forth and he's just willing to say whatever to get on TV. He's Kinda just, uh, just, uh, attention, thirsty, just a bit of a scumbag a little bit and I think everybody sees that. And on the other side of that is the store stormy Daniels attorney, just so you don't think I'm like a picking sides here, Michael Avanti, who's even worse. The Rudy Giuliani. I'm just out for himself not giving a damn about his client whatsoever, both these people just out for to push their own agenda. And then of course, uh, trump's attorney, Michael Cohen, who, who's been getting terrible news every week about just some of the dumbest stuff you could possibly do as an attorney, like just that you could be this dumb, like recording your conversations with potential clients and stuff.

It's just one of the things that if you go through law school, you should know better. I mean just any human to somebody who just watch us, you know, um, law and order with no don't record confidential communications with clients just so dumb. Such a dumb thing to do. He's possibly, he deserves to go to prison just for that alone, forget like anything to do with politics or trump or anything. Um, and then of course the super racist rant by the New York attorney that it turns out if you didn't see this. So the guy was in some sort of restaurant, I'm not sure but, but to people in the restaurant were speaking Spanish. I think it was an employee at the restaurant and a customer and uh, this, this attorney just like really went off the rails and Andy was just saying a bunch of racist, terrible things like, not even that, that uh, they were like based in any reality makes me think maybe this guy is mentally ill.

I mean clearly he's probably mentally ill. So it's like you kind of feel bad for the guy and in a sense where it's just like you most likely just need to be like on a serious dose of meds. But, uh, I don't know how old this guy is. I haven't seen like what, what demographic he comes from. But I got to tell you, this is not something that, that surprises me at all. Like go into law school with some of these people. It was, you, at least I thought going into law school was going to be kind of surrounded by somewhat of at least half and half. Like social justice driven people that what they cared about was getting social. But social justice for people in the law was something that was a important to them. But it never turned, it was not like that at all.

It was just like a bunch of a super rich, super insulated, white privileged. And I say white comma privilege. Not like white privilege, but maybe both, but just privileged bunch of assholes for, for the most part. That's how I felt about it. So when I see this sort of behavior depicted in the media and I see people just like lawyers are scumbags, I'm like, well, we're doing it to ourselves here. This is not a good look for and for good reason because the type of people that are going on and becoming attorneys for a lot of, a lot of the time are not the most well rounded people. And they, a lot of times get strapped with a lot of debt so they have no choice to but to be money hungry. I understand that aspect of it as someone who's strapped with a lot of debt from it.

But, uh, it's no excuse for, for just like self aggrandizing, um, at the, at the detriment to your client and at the detriment to a attorneys just in general, like what their, what the public reputation is of an attorney and I don't really care that much about attorney reputation collectively. That's not really something that I think about or care about. I'm not even involved in any attorney networking stuff. I don't even know that many attorneys. Like I said, like most of the people I went to law school with, I didn't like them. I thought they were assholes. They were much younger than me. I was a little bit older when I went to law school, so they're off like, you know, at the bars and at the golf course and stuff. I had a kid when I was in law school, so I was just like hanging out with my wife and kid and a couple of people from law school that I got along with.

But uh, not a good week for lawyers. It's unfortunate the head, these are the type of people that are representing me and when people meet me and they've learned what I do, this is what's in the back of their head or like these four people that I've talked about, so I don't know nothing to do really with the entrepreneurship today, but just be a good person. Just be a good. Hey guys, thank you so much for listening. I just want to say how much I appreciate everybody tuning in. I really, really appreciate it. If you're interested in actually speaking with me, one on one, jump over to llc freedom.com/calendar and grab a time for my hubspot calendar there and we can set a time to talk about your business. See what it is that you do, talk about, you know, what I do and see if there's any type of solution that I can provide to your problem. So that's llc freedom.com/calendar.