Ep 3: Repentance OR Reputation: When Obedience Means Losing Everything
Power of OR - A podcast by and for Christian business leaders who want to be Spirit-led
Release Date: 12/02/2025
Ep 4: Choosing Purpose Over Security in Business
Power of OR - A podcast by and for Christian business leaders who want to be Spirit-led
In this episode, Brad and Jim sit down with Mike Saunders, a marketing strategist who helps financial professionals build real authority without gimmicks, pride, or burnout. His story is a masterclass in learning to hear God’s direction in your work, taking bold steps when the timing makes no sense, and grounding your business in trust instead of anxiety. Mike shares how he pivoted from “doing everything for everyone” to becoming a niche leader in authority positioning. But even more, he unpacks the internal pivots, learning to trust the Holy Spirit with...
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Ep 3: Repentance OR Reputation: When Obedience Means Losing Everything
Power of OR - A podcast by and for Christian business leaders who want to be Spirit-led
What do you do when your entire world collapses – and you’re the reason it did? In this deeply honest conversation, Blake Mattocks shares the defining OR moment that changed everything: protect his reputation and cling to what was familiar or bring his failure into the light and trust God with whatever came next. That decision – costly, humbling, and obedient – became the doorway to unexpected healing and a global ministry impacting millions. This episode reminds us that the Power of OR often appears in moments of surrender, not strategy. The OR Moment Blake...
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What If One Word Could Change Everything?
Power of OR - A podcast by and for Christian business leaders who want to be Spirit-led
In this episode, Brad Hawkins and Jim Brangenberg dig deeper into The Power of OR—the small but transforming shift that helped Brad rebuild his life after a 24-hour collapse that nearly took everything from him. They revisit the moment Brad’s world came apart, the painful assumptions he carried into every room, and how the simple discipline of staying curious—rather than jumping to conclusions—became the turning point. Brad shares how his old patterns of “instant conclusions” convinced him that people in his church hated him, that God had turned His back on him, and that...
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What is the Power of OR?: A Testimony of Betrayal, Brokenness, and Breakthrough
Power of OR - A podcast by and for Christian business leaders who want to be Spirit-led
In this first-ever episode of the Power of OR Podcast, Brad Hawkins shares the true story behind the movement. Once leading multiple thriving companies across investment management, tech, medical services, and more, Brad watched his world collapse in a single day when a partner’s hidden wrongdoing triggered a federal investigation and froze every dollar he owned. Though ultimately found innocent, Brad lost everything—businesses, reputation, security—and sank into a year marked by depression, anger, and isolation. What followed is the heart of this conversation: the unexpected...
info_outlineWhat do you do when your entire world collapses – and you’re the reason it did?
In this deeply honest conversation, Blake Mattocks shares the defining OR moment that changed everything: protect his reputation and cling to what was familiar or bring his failure into the light and trust God with whatever came next. That decision – costly, humbling, and obedient – became the doorway to unexpected healing and a global ministry impacting millions.
This episode reminds us that the Power of OR often appears in moments of surrender, not strategy.
The OR Moment
Blake faced a choice many leaders quietly fear:
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hide, manage, and preserve a powerful position
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OR repent, resign, and let God rebuild from the ground up
Choosing obedience over self-protection didn’t end his calling – it redefined it.
Key Takeaways
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How crisis reveals whether we trust our plans or God’s provision
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Why repentance is a decision, but healing is a process
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The danger of longing for what God is asking you to leave behind
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How surrender creates space for God to lead step by step
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Why God sometimes removes a single source of provision to invite deeper trust
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What it looks like to follow God without a clear roadmap
From Collapse to Calling
Out of loss, uncertainty, and daily dependence, 365 Christian Stories was born – spreading stories of redemption across more than 100 countries, without a marketing strategy or monetization plan. A powerful reminder that God’s work advances through obedience, not control.
For the Listener Wrestling with a Decision
If you’re standing at a crossroads – clinging to security, reputation, or certainty – this episode offers hope. God doesn’t always reveal the full plan, but He is faithful to guide those willing to choose His way.
The most powerful decisions are rarely comfortable, but when we choose God’s way, He does more than restore. He transforms!
Featuring: Blake Mattocks
Ministry/ Workplace: 365 Christian Stories