Built, Not Posted: The Reality of Player Development

Football 360 Show Notes (Segment: Social plugs → Training/Development → QBs)

📺 Where to Watch + Follow (Opening)

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• Radio: KLIS 590 AM (St. Louis) + looinfo.com

• Hosts: JP Rock + Matt Bierman

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🏈 Segment 1 — “What’s New?” + Training Life (Early)

• Matt: “What’s new? Football. A lot of football every day.”

• Quick behind-the-scenes: Matt multitasking, getting the show posted online.

• Training recap:

  • Busy Sunday at the facility

  • Strong turnout across youth / middle school / high school

  • Encouraging: lots of middle school participation

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🧱 Segment 2 — The “Big John” Moment (Size, Growth, & Why Football is Unique)

• JP describes a massive 8th grader who “looked like Big John.”

• “Big John” context:

  • Roughly 6'10.5 (measured at Elite Combine)

  • Was 360 lbs in 8th grade, now joked closer to 450

  • “Big John is truly Big John… really Giant John.”

• Fun anecdote:

  • Lawrence Maroney (Normandy → Minnesota → Patriots) reacted: “He is huge… you’ve got to run around him.”

  • Point: his arm length + mass changes pass-rush strategy.

• Coaching note:

  • Big-bodied 8th graders (especially 6'1–6'4+) often struggle with movement due to growth, joints, coordination.

• Big takeaway: football fits every body type

  • You can have a 5'2 kid and a 6'10 kid—and both have a position

  • “Football is a conglomerate of positions” with different attributes and mentalities

  • Elite skills training is organized by position for that reason

• Mention: big-lineman pipelines at Francis Howell and Eureka

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🧢 Segment 3 — Coaches as Dads + Letting Others Pour Into Your Kid

• Matt talks about seeing high school coaches bring their kids in (ex: Coach Brian Cook + son Ty).

• Personal parenting lens:

  • Matt enjoys coaching his son, but also enjoys watching others coach him.

  • Manning Camp example: he intentionally chose to be dad, not coach for once.

  • “There’s 363 other days where you are literally coach.”

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🏟️ Segment 4 — Development vs Social Media “Proof”

• Matt addresses criticism (from social) about whether Elite “developed” certain players:

  • Mentions Brady Cook, Isaiah Williams, Tony Adams, Marquis Hayes and the thousands of hours spent training.

  • Point: results and relationship depth matter more than posting workouts.

• Critique of “new-age coaching” culture:

  • Work with a kid 2–3 times → post cone drills → claim development

  • Real development includes:

    • long-term training

    • adversity conversations

    • progress across HS → college → pro transitions

• Matt notes a moment where Brady publicly responded online to defend the work.

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🎯 Segment 5 — Real Recruiting Truth: “Help” vs Guarantees

• Both emphasize: nobody can guarantee a scholarship except college coaches

• Families should look for help, not sales pitches.

• JP’s point:

  • people selling “guarantees” are selling you—guarantees are “worthless”

• Scouting lens:

  • JP mentions he can often identify “automatic scholarship guys”

  • the real value is helping the “dream guys” who need:

    • the plan

    • the performance work

    • skills work

    • guidance + answers at key decision points

• Shared belief: “The cream rises to the top,” even if some pathways now lead to lower levels first.

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🧩 Segment 6 — Example: Tion Gray + How Exposure Happens

• Matt tells the story of Tion Gray (seen as a freshman):

  • Invited into training

  • A D1 coach happened to be present (Barry Odom, Arkansas DC at the time)

  • Coach saw him, trusted recommendation, and offered on the spot

• Key lesson:

  • Talent matters, but being seen matters

  • Athletes must take initiative to put themselves in the right environments

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💸 Segment 7 — Football Money + Combine Reality Check

• Matt notes how training → confidence/skill → exposure can now lead to athletes earning money (college NIL and beyond).

• Shares NIL portal example:

  • player with limited production (7 catches last year) tests portal and ends up at $675k.

• Combine discussion (US Army Combine, Elite Combine, KC Varsity):

  • “You don’t get there just by showing up.”

  • Combine prep is training-dependent:

    • 5-10-5 shuttle times discussed (some around 4.25)

    • now focusing on 40 times

  • Point: many athletes are fast, but combines reveal where speed training is missing.

• Wrestler example:

  • a top wrestler chooses to skip wrestling season because football is his future

  • dedicates ~6 months to get ready for camps → KC Varsity → college camps

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🔁 Segment 8 — Portal Local Notes: Tion Gray + Others

• Quick portal updates mentioned:

  • Tion Gray is now in the portal

  • J. Harris referenced as Kansas State

  • Robert Kind (Robert “Kinda”?) referenced as being in the portal too (Elite Combine MVP)

• Background on Tion:

  • Carnahan HS (now closed)

  • early invite → developed through years with coaches and Boom lineman work

  • now around 6'5, 330+ (as discussed), previously 6'4 225–230 as a freshman

  • Big point: he “put in the work” — drenched in sweat, consistent effort, coached hard.

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🧠 Segment 9 — Quarterback Development: Midwest Misconceptions + Age Advantage

• They shift to quarterback talent:

  • Sunday had a strong QB group, including freshmen who “don’t know how good they are yet.”

  • Compares current QB group to past elite classes (Dalton Deimos, Trevor McDonough, etc.).

• Challenge today is tougher:

  • becoming the “anointed” QB recruit is harder now than it used to be

  • exposure hotbeds influence perception (CA/FL/GA pipelines)

• Midwest QB argument:

  • Missouri QBs can match the national level—often underrated due to “not a QB hotbed” narrative.

  • Midwest football overall is strong (teams like Ferris State, Illinois State, Indiana, North Central mentioned)

• Major differentiator discussed: age

  • Missouri kids often:

    • freshmen 14 → seniors 17 turning 18

  • other regions:

    • seniors 18 turning 19

  • That 1-year maturity gap = massive physical development difference.

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📻 Mid-Show Plug (Radio)

• Reminder: Saturdays 11 AM on KLIS 590 AM

• Website: looinfo.com

• “Your loo info station”

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🧱 Segment 10 — QB Archetype Shift: Size vs Mobility

• JP mentions Mizzou’s 2027 QB commit from Omaha (camp sighting):

  • around 6'0–6'1, thick build, good arm (as discussed)

• Matt’s trend take:

  • “Sweet spot” may be 5'10 to 6'1 now because those guys can run and escape.

  • With today’s defensive line speed/athleticism, being 6'5 isn’t the advantage it used to be.

• Old-school QB myths challenged:

  • “Tall QB sees over the line” — but you’re still looking past 6'7 tackles.

  • “QB on toes” — Matt argues force production requires grounding (compares to golf/baseball/basketball mechanics).

• Notes a smaller QB example (Washington commitment who considered flipping then stayed; name not confirmed in transcript)

  • Around 5'10, dynamic runner and passer

  • Reinforces belief: smaller QBs can absolutely play.

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✅ Wrap-Up

• The guys close this segment by tying everything back to real development: it’s not social media posts or hype videos — it’s years of reps, coaching, adversity, and consistent work.

• They highlight how football is uniquely built for all body types and skill sets, and why position-specific training matters.

• The conversation shifts into a quarterback development deep-dive, pushing back on outdated myths (QB height, “playing on toes”) and arguing today’s game rewards mobility, efficiency, and real throwing mechanics.

• They emphasize that Missouri/Midwest QBs are undervalued, and one of the biggest hidden advantages in other regions is simply age/maturity (18–19 year-old seniors vs 17–18).

• Overall message: exposure + preparation = opportunity — the kids who train, test, and put themselves in the right environments give coaches a reason to find them.