#113: Resilience Is Not Toughing It Out
Executive Commute With Jayson Krause
Release Date: 08/05/2026
Executive Commute With Jayson Krause
In Episode #113 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by Level 52 coach and facilitator Lara Koretsky for an honest exploration of resilience, adversity, and growth. Resilience is often described as the ability to bounce back or keep pushing when life becomes difficult. Lara challenges that definition. True resilience is not about returning to who you were before adversity or ignoring the toll it has taken. It is the ability to learn, adapt, recover, and create something stronger from the experience. Drawing from profound personal loss, family challenges, burnout,...
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info_outlineIn Episode #113 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by Level 52 coach and facilitator Lara Koretsky for an honest exploration of resilience, adversity, and growth.
Resilience is often described as the ability to bounce back or keep pushing when life becomes difficult. Lara challenges that definition. True resilience is not about returning to who you were before adversity or ignoring the toll it has taken. It is the ability to learn, adapt, recover, and create something stronger from the experience.
Drawing from profound personal loss, family challenges, burnout, career transitions, and years of developing leaders, Lara explains why resilience is not a fixed personality trait. It is a capacity that can be strengthened.
Jayson and Lara explore the five pillars of resilience, the difference between grit and grind, why workplaces often reward the wrong behaviours, and how perseverance can become toxic when it causes people to tolerate the intolerable.
They also examine an important leadership tension: how do you challenge people to grow without rescuing them, overwhelming them, or carrying their backpack for them?
Episode timestamps:
00:00 What resilience really is
00:40 Lara’s experience with adversity
01:51 Resilience is a muscle
02:23 Lessons from Lara’s father
03:24 Medical assistance in dying
04:21 Creativity through grief
06:21 Lara’s career journey
08:58 Feeling least resilient
10:10 Learning from rejected feedback
11:19 The kintsugi metaphor
13:35 Moving beyond “bouncing back”
15:19 Owning your role in adversity
16:35 Defining resilience
16:45 Why grinding through is not resilience
17:31 Choosing where to persist
19:30 Recovery creates growth
20:13 Myths about resilience
21:09 When organizations reward burnout
23:28 Why leaders wait until it is too late
25:22 Building resilience proactively
25:31 The five pillars of resilience
29:09 Humour versus avoidance
30:29 Stealing opportunities for growth
31:38 Do not carry someone else’s backpack
34:04 Choosing hope
35:22 Choice within resilience
35:57 The downside of resilience
37:47 Can resilience prevent growth?
40:58 Toxic perseverance
42:18 Grit versus grind
43:11 Knowing when to keep going
44:24 Strategic quitting
45:22 Organizational responsibility for resilience
46:08 Expanding people’s capacity
47:50 Workload and real priorities
49:03 Why recovery is essential
49:29 Resilience and stress exposure
50:58 Training adaptability
51:50 How organizations create fragility
53:37 Hiring for resilience
54:48 Where leaders should begin
56:29 The worst resilience advice
56:45 The key lesson
57:09 Writing your resilience story
59:03 Stepping into the real work
60:00 Closing reflections
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