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386 - More Segments, More Problems: Rethinking Email Segmentation

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Release Date: 06/14/2026

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Get the FREE "Front Door" Report: Right now, roughly a third of your subscribers are opening your emails in dark mode. On some lists it's closer to 40%. And depending on how your emails were built, that could mean your logo is invisible, your text is unreadable, or your email just looks like something went terribly wrong. The worst part is you'd never know - because if you're testing in light mode on desktop, everything looks fine. It's only when you flip to dark mode that you see what a chunk of your audience is actually looking at every time you hit send. Dark mode isn't an edge case...

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Cody Cessna almost didn't do email marketing at all. He told me straight up he didn't want to be the brand that annoys people and gets unsubscribed. And honestly, that instinct made our job harder - because we had to build in more restraint and intention than we might have with another brand. But he came around, and it's actually paying off. Cody is the founder of COE, a brand built for the active and working man who needs eyewear that can handle the job site without looking terrible doing it. He spent years as a lineman touching 16,000 volts every day, wearing safety glasses that were ugly...

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📥 Download the FREE Front Door Study: I subscribed to 362 real ecommerce brands - jewelry, fashion, beauty, home, wellness, accessories - using fresh email addresses and phone numbers I'd never used before. I just wanted to know what actually happens after you hand over your contact information. Not what a Klaviyo dashboard says is happening. What actually shows up in the inbox. Nearly half of them never sent a welcome email at all. That means 158 brands took someone's email address, made them a promise - usually a discount or incentive - and then went completely silent. And SMS had the...

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Every SMS marketing platform is pushing something called RCS right now, telling you it's the future of texting your customers. And the upgrade is real - but the pitch is leaving out a few things worth knowing before you make any decisions. RCS, which stands for Rich Communication Services, isn't actually new technology. It was standardized back in 2007. The reason everyone is suddenly talking about it in 2026 is that Apple only added support for it in iOS 18, which came out in fall 2024. Once iPhone users were covered, rich messaging across both major platforms became possible for the first...

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390Julie Cole said something in our conversation that I haven't stopped thinking about. Social media, content, followers - all of it can disappear tomorrow. The only thing she actually owns is her email list. Julie is the co-founder of Mabel's Labels, the brand behind those indestructible labels you've seen on kids' water bottles and lunchboxes - the ones that survive the dishwasher, the microwave, and everything in between. She started the company 23 years ago in her sister's basement with three co-founders, none of them technical, trading a foosball table for their first website. It's since...

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Klaviyo has been rolling out something called Composer in beta - an AI agent that promises to build entire marketing campaigns from a single prompt. Audience, copy, design, segmentation, all of it. The promise is impressive. So I got access on a real client account and tested it myself. And my honest take is more nuanced than the hype - and more useful than the skeptics would have you believe. The short version: Composer is less an autonomous agent and more a really well-informed assistant. It knows your account data better than any outside AI tool could. It just still needs you. Where it...

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$6,000 in Klaviyo. $600 in Google Analytics. Same campaign. Same week. Real numbers from a real account my team took over. If you've ever stared at two reports that should say the same thing and thought - is someone lying to me? - this episode is for you. Nobody is lying. But what's actually happening is something every ecommerce brand sending marketing emails needs to understand. Those two tools aren't giving you different answers because one of them is wrong. They're giving you different answers because they're asking completely different questions. Klaviyo is asking how much did the...

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The moment someone signs up for your emails is the highest attention moment you will ever have with that subscriber. They just said yes. They're interested. They're engaged. And most brands are using that window to send two, maybe three emails - and then calling it done. That's a problem. Because the subscribers who buy from email one were already close to purchasing anyway. The discount and the timing just pushed them over the edge. The rest of your welcome series exists for everyone who wasn't ready yet - the people who need more trust, more context, more touchpoints - and that group is...

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386 - More Segments, More Problems: Rethinking Email Segmentation show art 386 - More Segments, More Problems: Rethinking Email Segmentation

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Segmentation sounds like the answer to everything. The right message to the right person at the right time - that's the dream. And to be clear, I'm a segment stan. Smart segmentation is one of the most powerful things you can do for your email program. But the conversation around it is almost always one-directional: more segments, more targeting, more personalization. And at a certain point, that stops being true. I see brands build 12, 20, who even knows how many segments - and end up spending more time managing those segments than actually sending good campaigns. The result is a...

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The call to action is the last thing someone reads before they click - or don't. And for something that important, it gets surprisingly little strategic thought in most email programs. What I see instead is one of two extremes. Either the CTA is completely ignored - "Shop Now" slapped on every button, same wording across every email, no thought given to whether it's actually doing its job. Or it's wildly overthought - someone spent 20 minutes trying to make the button sound clever and ended up with copy that nobody instantly understands. Both are a problem. And the fix is simpler than most...

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Segmentation sounds like the answer to everything. The right message to the right person at the right time - that's the dream. And to be clear, I'm a segment stan. Smart segmentation is one of the most powerful things you can do for your email program.

But the conversation around it is almost always one-directional: more segments, more targeting, more personalization. And at a certain point, that stops being true.

I see brands build 12, 20, who even knows how many segments - and end up spending more time managing those segments than actually sending good campaigns. The result is a sophisticated-looking account generating less revenue than a simpler setup would. More segments doesn't automatically mean more revenue. Often it just means more complexity for the sake of complexity.

There's also a math problem most brands don't see coming. When you fracture your engaged list into smaller segments, you're sending to fewer people - and the lift in open rates doesn't always make up for the drop in volume. Worse, when you send one campaign to five "different" segments, there's almost always massive overlap. You're not reaching new people. You're just hitting your most engaged subscribers more often.

In this episode, I break down when segmentation starts working against you, the simple test for deciding which segments are actually worth keeping, and what a leaner, more sustainable segmentation strategy actually looks like.

✨ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why more segments doesn't automatically mean more revenue - and can actually mean less

  • The real workload cost of maintaining too many segments

  • The math problem most brands don't realize they have when they over-segment

  • Why sending one campaign to five "different" segments often just means hitting the same people more often

  • Why using a completely different segment for every send leaves you with no baseline to learn from

  • The simple test for deciding whether a segment is actually worth keeping

  • Why segments with only 10-20 people are usually adding noise, not value

  • What a leaner segmentation strategy looks like: one engaged foundation plus a small number of intentional layers

A leaner set of segments you actually use is worth far more than an elaborate setup that mostly just looks impressive.

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