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Future-Proof Your Firm: Embrace CAS & AI Now w/ Deneen Dias

Building the Premier Accounting Firm

Release Date: 02/18/2026

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Welcome to another episode of Building the Premier Accounting Firm. Today, Roger Knecht and Deneen Dias discuss the evolution of accounting, focusing on Client Advisory Services (CAS) and the strategic shift from traditional bookkeeping to high-value advisory. Learn how your firm can embrace technology, particularly AI, to scale operations, enhance client relationships, and drive recurring revenue.

In This Episode:

00:00 Welcome & Guest Introduction
02:11 Deneen’s Journey into Accounting
04:08 Defining Client Advisory Services (CAS)
08:08 CAS 1.0 vs. CAS 2.0 & Challenges
12:24 Building Confidence in Advisory Roles
16:21 Growth and Pillars of CAS
19:33 Pricing Strategies for CAS
24:34 AI’s Role in Advisory Services
27:52 Leveraging Existing AI Tools
33:13 Gratitude and Infinite Ties
34:25 Podcast Summary and Resources
38:39 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

Key Takeaways:

  • Define Client Advisory Services (CAS) as moving beyond transactional work to real-time data analysis and strategic client advice.

  • Shift your firm’s offerings to value-based CAS, leveraging recurring revenue models to increase profitability.

  • Implement a tiered pricing structure for CAS, such as the “biking, driving, flying” analogy, to guide clients through different service levels.

  • Utilize existing technology platforms to integrate AI for automating transactional tasks and enhancing advisory capabilities.

  • Upskill your team’s soft skills and business acumen to confidently deliver CFO and advisory services.

Featured Quotes:

  • “Clients are hungry for advisory. They don’t want someone to just do their taxes or prepare their financials. They want someone that can talk to them about their business, can talk to them about the numbers.” — Deneen Dias

  • “CAS is the fastest growing new revenue source for traditional firms. We’ve seen audit is flat. Tax has about 5% growth. And CAS, for the firms focusing on it, have 20% to 30% growth.” — Deneen Dias

  • “The tech stack that you’re using now, build.com, spending a lot of money, bringing a lot of AI… get to know the vendors… Make sure you’re taking advantage of all of the new things that they’re bringing to you already.” — Deneen Dias

Behind the Story:

Deneen Dias, a leader with 17 years in accounting technology, shares her journey from helping firms adopt cloud accounting in 2008 to co-founding Infinite Ties, a community for CAS professionals. Her deep experience highlights the accounting profession’s ongoing evolution, emphasizing the current push towards advisory services and the integration of AI. She provides practical strategies for firms to overcome resistance to change, package new services, and build confidence within their teams.

Conclusion:

Thank you for joining us for another episode of Building the Premier Accounting Firm with Roger Knecht. For more information on how you can establish your own accounting firm and take control of your time and income, call 435-344-2060 or schedule an appointment to connect with Roger’s team here.

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