Google vs ChatGPT in Local Search and What Actually Ranks in 2026 with Darren Shaw
Service Business Mastery for Skilled Trades: HVAC, Plumbing & Electrical Home Service
Release Date: 12/31/2025
Service Business Mastery for Skilled Trades: HVAC, Plumbing & Electrical Home Service
Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - π Get Your 14-Day Free Trial with CallRail! π Visit: __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett and Josh Crouch talk with Darren Shaw. He is the founder of Whitespark, a company specializing in local SEO software and services, and a recognized local SEO educator with more than 45,000...
info_outlineService Business Mastery for Skilled Trades: HVAC, Plumbing & Electrical Home Service
Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - π Get Your 14-Day Free Trial with CallRail! π Visit: __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett, Co-Founder & Chief Experience Officer at Trade Automation Pros, CEO of Service Emperor, Co-Host & Founder of Service Business Mastery Podcast, and Josh Crouch, Founder of Relentless Digital Marketing...
info_outlineService Business Mastery for Skilled Trades: HVAC, Plumbing & Electrical Home Service
Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - π Get Your 14-Day Free Trial with CallRail! π Visit: __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett and Josh Crouch talk with Crystal Williams at AHR Expo 2025. She is the Co-Founder of Lemon Seed Marketing, Marketing Strategist at McWilliams Heating, Cooling, and Plumbing & Co-Host of From The...
info_outlineService Business Mastery for Skilled Trades: HVAC, Plumbing & Electrical Home Service
Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett & Josh Crouch chat with Danica Patrick, Race Car Driver, Host of the Pretty Intense Podcast, an Entrepreneur, and Motivational Speaker at Service World Expo. She shares how she transitioned from a successful racing career to building her own business ventures....
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Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - π Get Your 14-Day Free Trial with CallRail! π Visit: __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett & Josh Crouch talk with Jen McKee at Epic 2025 in Orlando Florida. Jen is the owner of Kee Hart Marketing, a social media agency focused on helping home service businesses grow. Jen shares her...
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Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - π Get Your 14-Day Free Trial with CallRail! π Visit: __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett and Josh Crouch sit down with Scott Patterson, Founder & Operator at STUFF Junk Removal, Capital Markets & GTM Strategist at Commune, and Commercial Real Estate Broker at Max One Properties. Scott...
info_outlineService Business Mastery for Skilled Trades: HVAC, Plumbing & Electrical Home Service
Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett and Josh Crouch sit down with Josh McCarter, CEO of EverPro and Board Member at Compass, live from Service World Expo 2025. Josh shares how his background in SaaS and leadership at Mindbody shaped his work in the home services space. He explains how AI,...
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Learn how to automate tasks, save time, and increase your profit. No Coding required! π Enroll Today - __________________________________________ Welcome to the Service Business Mastery Podcast! Visit our website for more episodes and insights! In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett and Josh Crouch talk with Arian Radmand, CEO & President of IgnitePOST, about using AI-powered handwritten mail to connect with customers. Arian shares how real pen-written notes can boost replies, help with follow-ups, and even bring back lost leads. He explains how...
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In this episode of the Service Business Mastery podcast, Tersh Blissett and Josh Crouch talk with Darren Shaw. He is the founder of Whitespark, a company specializing in local SEO software and services, and a recognized local SEO educator with more than 45,000 newsletter subscribers, 10,000+ YouTube subscribers and 3,000+ email course sign-ups. He leads the annual Local Search Ranking Factors Survey, one of the most frequently cited resources in local SEO, and regularly speaks at local search conferences worldwide while contributing to leading SEO publications. With 27 years of experience in web development and SEO, his career began well before Google existed.
In this episode, here's what you can expect to learn:
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How Darren helped businesses improve local search rankings through reviews and content.
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Why customer reviews and video content are essential for standing out online.
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How AI tools are transforming local SEO and saving time on content creation.
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Why backlinks are becoming less important and reviews are gaining more focus.
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Practical tips for using smart marketing strategies to boost your businessβs growth.
Timestamps β°
[00:00] - Recap
[02:11] - Episode Introduction & Meeting Darren Shaw
[03:02] - Darren Shaw's Background and 25+ Years in Local SEO
[06:79] - Importance of Review Recency in Local SEO
[09:69] - The Decline of Backlinks in Local SEO
[10:71] - Review Diversification and Googleβs Role in Reviews
[18:10] - The Future of Search: Google vs. AI-driven Tools
[20:47] - Content Relevance in the Age of AI and Google AI Integration
[22:61] - The Role of YouTube in Local Search and Content Strategy
[27:42] - Using Content, AI, and Videos for Effective Local SEO
[35:67] - The Role of Email Marketing and Lead Magnets in Local SEO
[46:20] - The Future of Local Search and Google's AI Integration
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