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353: The Power of Objects—Sharing Stories and Creating Connections

Getting Unstuck – Cultivating Curiosity

Release Date: 03/11/2025

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Getting Unstuck – Cultivating Curiosity

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Sarah Elkins is your guide to uncovering the right personal stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and effectively demonstrate their character, values, and vision. She is a storyteller, communication coach, author, and professional musician. As a Gallup-certified StrengthsFinder coach, Sarah uses that tool and story-sharing strategies as the foundation of her work with teams, improving communication to reduce tension and stress in the workplace.

Why this episode matters

This co-produced episode of “Getting Unstuck-Cultivating Curiosity” and “Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will” explores the power of objects to reduce division and foster connection. Podcast hosts Jeff Ikler and Sarah Elkins share the mic to discuss how objects hold deep personal significance, unlocking stories that help people relate to one another on a human level. They highlight how storytelling can be a tool for understanding and empathy, particularly in polarized times.

  1. Objects Hold Stories – Personal items often carry deep meaning and can serve as prompts for sharing stories that build connection and understanding.

  2. Storytelling Reduces Division – Sharing personal stories with the intention of connecting rather than persuading helps bridge divides in a polarized world.

  3. Listening is Key to Connection – Actively listening to others’ stories fosters deeper relationships and a greater appreciation for different perspectives.

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