359: Teaching the Unthinkable: A Classroom Approach to Holocaust Education
Getting Unstuck – Cultivating Curiosity
Release Date: 04/22/2025
359: Teaching the Unthinkable: A Classroom Approach to Holocaust Education
Getting Unstuck – Cultivating Curiosity
Guest Matt Ence is a teacher at Bountiful High School in Bountiful, UT. Matt retired from the military in 2017, when he began his teaching career. He teaches a course on the Holocaust, as well as courses in AP World History and US History. Matt became a Museum Teacher Fellow at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in 2023. Summary Matt discusses teaching a dedicated Holocaust course. He covers the chronology of events from Hitler's rise to post-liberation challenges using survivor testimonies, primary sources, and interactive activities. Matt emphasizes personalizing the Holocaust beyond...
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349: Perspectives—The U.S. Home Front During WWII and the Lessons of History
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Allan M. Winkler is the University Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Miami University of Ohio. He has also taught at Yale University and the University of Oregon and, for one year each, at the University of Helsinki in Finland, the University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands, and the University of Nairobi in Kenya. In addition to his own books, he co-authored a college textbook and a high school textbook on American History. Summary In this episode, Jeff speaks with historian and author Alan Winkler about the importance of critical thinking in history education. They discuss how history...
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Matt Ence is a teacher at Bountiful High School in Bountiful, UT. Matt retired from the military in 2017, when he began his teaching career. He teaches a course on the Holocaust, as well as courses in AP World History and US History. Matt became a Museum Teacher Fellow at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in 2023.
Summary
Matt discusses teaching a dedicated Holocaust course. He covers the chronology of events from Hitler's rise to post-liberation challenges using survivor testimonies, primary sources, and interactive activities. Matt emphasizes personalizing the Holocaust beyond statistics, exploring collaborators and bystanders alongside perpetrators, and connecting this history to other genocides to help students recognize warning signs and develop empathy for different groups.
Three Important Takeaways
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Teaching chronologically helps students understand cause-and-effect relationships in Holocaust history, while personal testimonies humanize the statistics of 6 million victims.
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Holocaust education should include an examination of four groups: perpetrators, collaborators, bystanders, and rescuers, showing the complexity of human choices during this period.
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Connecting Holocaust history to other genocides helps students recognize warning signs and potentially prevent future atrocities through informed action.
Contact/Social Media
Matt’s email: [email protected]
U.S. Holocaust Museum’s website: https://www.ushmm.org/
Matt featured in Medium
Museum’s Social media:
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