The Energy Cost of Pretending with Julie Holly
Release Date: 06/27/2025
The Academy Presents podcast
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info_outlineChoosing to be fully yourself can shift relationships, unlock clarity, and ease the weight of pretending. In this heartfelt episode, Angel Williams and Julie Holly explore the liberating and often challenging journey of showing up as your authentic self. From teaching in high-poverty schools to facilitating meaningful personal growth through book clubs and intentional reflection, they share how honesty, vulnerability, and consistency in identity can transform both personal and professional relationships. They unpack the emotional weight of seemingly small decisions—like letting go of a nostalgic dress—and offer tangible steps for building self-awareness and cultivating an identity rooted in truth.
[00:01 - 03:00] The Classroom as a Mirror
- How teaching in a high-poverty school revealed the importance of authenticity
- Why middle school students demand the real you
- The significance of being consistent in identity across age groups
[03:01 - 06:43] From Acceptance to Action
- How self-acceptance can feel terrifying yet freeing
- The need to strip away masks in order to find your people
- Why rejection from others might be confirmation, not condemnation
[06:44 - 09:19] Letting Go to Move Forward
- How clearing out old belongings can unlock emotional growth
- What to do when memories get tangled in objects
- The importance of sitting with discomfort to uncover insights
[09:20 - 13:00] Evaluating Identity Across Settings
- Why it matters to reflect on who you are in different social contexts
- The need for honest self-checks after conferences and events
- How reading consistently supports identity development
[13:01 - 17:12] Living Authentically in Public and Private
- How consistency in personality simplifies life and builds trust
- The significance of staying genuine in community spaces
- Why safe environments and teacher-hearted leaders matter in live events
Connect with Julie:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-holly/
Key Quotes:
“You are expending far more energy trying to be someone you're not.” - Julie Holly
“You are created so uniquely… we don't need a repeat of someone trying to be an imposter.” - Julie Holly
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