Donna my book coach is an open book about her experience with Mounjaro.
Release Date: 08/09/2023
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Donna Kozik my book coach takes Mounjaro the diabetes drug that the U.S. FDA will likely approve for weight loss later this year.
Mounjaro is supposedly the most powerful of all the buzzy weight loss drugs you’ve been hearing about like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Rybelsus that have the ability to both control blood sugar and cause weight loss.
Made by Eli Lilly, studies have shown this diabetes drug can lower body mass at its highest dose by up to 15%. According to the American Diabetes Association, sometimes losing just 5% -7% of your body weight is enough to imporove diabetes control. For someone who weighs 200 poinds this is a weight loss of just 10-15 pounds.
Donna is an open book about taking Mounjaro and is excited to share her A1C dropped nearly 5 points to put her in the diabetes under control range.
Part of her story is also that she hasn’t lost any weight yet.
Enjoy the podcast of our live conversation on The Debbie Nigro Show about Donna’s experience with Mounjaro. For those of you who would rather read about it the audio transcript is below
BTW: Donna’s been helping me get my new book done and out there ‘any minute’ lol. She's had extreme patience with me. She’s the best! Four out of five people want to write a book . The ones who decide to get it done, like me, need a ‘Donna’.
Tell her I sent you at doneforyoupublishing.com
And now, back to the Debbie Nigro Show.
I listen the more I learn, and then I share with you guys, and then I ask you to listen some more, because then we learn together. Hey, everybody, I'm Debbie Nigro. Wellness is my topic of the day today. I do a whole show once a week on wellness stuff. And of course, there's a lot of buzz continuing about all these drugs out there for weight loss. You've heard the buzz, right, about Ozempic, Lugovy, Riebelsis, but it seems the most powerful of all these buzzy weight loss drugs is called Mounjaro. It's made by Eli Lilly and it's a diabetes drug that can lower your body mass and it's pretty darn effective. So much so that I got a gal pal I want to introduce to you who loves talking about this because it really helped her a lot. This is Donna Kozik you're about to meet. We're going out west to the other part of the United States. She's a very special person in my life who I've never met. Can you imagine? Book coach helping me. We're about to nail that book together finally after five years, but right now she's alive and well and doing so great because she takes Manjaro and she's going to share the excitement about that. Hey Donna, how are you buddy? Hey Debbie. What's going on over there?
Oh, it's a sunny day here in San Diego. Can you believe that?
No, I can't. We've had a lot of challenges with weather. How's the weather out there? We're struggling over here on the East Coast. Lots of rain and clouds and smoke from wildfires in Canada. What's going on overall in San Diego? Where I supposedly think there's supposed to be sunshine 364 days a year.
Yeah, but you know we're coming off of a really cloudy spring. In fact, one of my clients told me that San Diego was the most cloudy city in the United States outside of one in Alaska during April and May. So go figure.
Because that's really a bad sign. I always thought San Diego was the place if I was going to move, I would move there because of how much sunshine they had.
Yeah, well, it's sunny now, but we had a cloudy spring just to throw everybody off a little bit.
Yeah, you want to keep people away just for a little bit. Donna, I loved communicating with you and thanks so much. I told everybody the latest statistics that four and five people want to write a book, only one out of five ever gets it done. I told them that if they're the one who really wants to get it done, they should call you. They need a Donna. And I thank you for standing by me and helping me forward. And we'll talk about that in another show, but part of my excitement of knowing you is seeing you get well. I didn't know you weren't well, but you seem to be getting weller since I've met you and this manjaro is part of the reason?
Yeah, you know, like a lot of people, I've struggled with my weight actually my entire life. I was thinking about our conversation this morning. I went on my first diet when I was five years old when some teachers told my parents that I was overweight and also 12 teenage years, it's just my entire life and I've tried all the programs, Weight Watchers and just all kinds of them and just have never been able to find a solution that not only helps me with weight loss but now helps me with controlling my A1C with diabetes. More importantly, Debbie, what I have found in Manjaro has really helped me physically not crave food. And this is something brand new that no other program has ever helped me with.
Really? That's kind of what I'm getting at, that people don't desire to eat because eating for many people like you and me, Donna, is emotional. It's like, you know, you're not hungry, but you love the food, so you just, for whatever reason, you're happy, you're sad, you're celebrating, you're miserable. There's always a reason to eat if you're an emotional eater. And I, too, struggled with my weight since I was a little girl. You know, my mother used to try and make melba toast and, you know, try and get me to lose weight at like eight years old. It's just a psycho existence. It's frustrating, right? So this is exciting. You did say to me that yes, your A1C went down and for people who don't know, that's a way of measuring blood sugar, right? And that's most people have type 2 diabetes. The A1C test measures your average blood sugar level over the past couple of months, the higher your level, the higher your risk of developing diabetes-related problems. And people who have been taking Manjaro, correct me if I'm wrong, it's helping their A1C levels go down to where it's not dangerous. Are you out of danger?
Yes, I'm out of danger. On three months of Manjaro, my A1C dropped almost five points and went into what's considered
Yeah. Yeah, just a huge relief with that.
Wow. But you did say, and this is crazy because I assumed you'd be losing weight as well, that you didn't lose any weight, which I found a little surprising since this is supposed to do that too. Talk to that.
Yeah, so it is a little surprising, but there's one thing I want to mention first, and I talked about all those different programs and you mentioned about emotional eating which I totally understand and you know kind of growing up with when things are feeling bad or sad or whatever you go make a sandwich like it was just the answer to everything. But for the first time, Manjaro, what it has helped me with is actually feeling normal and this is something that I have talked to coaches and counselors and nutritionist about for years. It's like, why can't I eat, or it seems like I eat like a normal person, but normal people can have cookies in the house and not eat them, or they can leave a plate with food still on it. And there was a part of me that I just could never understand that and I could never do it until I started this drug, where it fills up my stomach and I feel differently about food. I think differently about food and that to me is the real power of these types of weight loss drugs.
Amazing. Oh, it's terrible. The FDA, and you're probably aware of this too, is about to approve this particular drug from Eli Lilly, which they're calling the most powerful of them all in the category that is the same as Ozempic and Wachovian rebelsis because they've really seen the ability for it to both control blood sugar and cause weight loss. They said at the highest dose, and I want to ask you about your dose, that people who have taken this have shown to lower their body mass by up to 15 percent. What dose
are you taking? Yes, so you start off at 2.5 and it goes up to 15 and I'm currently on 10. Some doctors, frankly I've been educating my doctor a little bit about it because she can't know everything about everything in some regards and also we're so well educated because of commercials and articles that we can read ourselves that the weight loss generally comes later as you increase your dose. So that's one thing that's giving me a little bit of hope. Also that but some doctors will say, well your A1C is down so let's not increase the dose. But from what I understand the power of the drug is that when it comes to that weight loss is as you grow the dosage because what it does is it works with the hormones in your stomach to make you feel full and it kind of mimics sleep
surgery with the idea that the food leaves your stomach at a slower rate and so then
that's part of what helps you eat less. that effect can lessen unless you increase the drug to the 15, the dose of 15.
Have you been on other diabetes medications before Mount Jaro? I'm just curious.
Yes, I actually tried Ozempic. I was on Ozempic and it was effective for a little bit of time, but then that effectiveness
wonders for her so she encouraged me to ask my doctor about it. Okay, very cool
and then you know you're watching, you've heard that if people go off this then they seem to gain weight back or I don't think that once you're on a diabetes drug you can just go off it you have to have a replacement for the drug so you feel like this is your answer and you're going to continue on. There are other drugs obviously.
Right. Everybody's like, you know, concerned. Like, well, do you have to be on this drug forever? I'm like, I don't care if I do, if it works. Now, I do take other medications for my diabetes and when my A1C dropped, I was able to eliminate one of them and I believe when I lose weight I'll be able to eliminate others and then we'll see about this one but you know I'm going to worry about today today and think about tomorrow tomorrow.
Very interesting because people who do lower their A1C and bring it down like you're doing and you know start losing the weight then their diabetes sometimes just goes away. I mean it's just incredible. So this is a very interesting time in the world. We have a major problem in this country and my own dad, and I've mentioned it on the show before, Don, passed away at the age of 55 from complications of diabetes. So I watched a man suffer that nobody wants to see suffer when it doesn't go right. You know, it was just terrible. And it's just, you know, staying in the lane for the new science, right? And then being able to get the drug. Had you had any problems getting Mount Jara because there was as I understand it a supply chain backlog that was keeping people who needed it for diabetes from getting it because everybody was racing to get it for weight loss. What was your experience with that?
Yes, that is true and that there was a or there is a run on these drugs and I'll kind of leave that kind of talk, it's just like well you want to get it to the people who need it primarily and focus on that. I wasn't able to fulfill my prescription from through one store so
myself and a couple of friends, we called all the pharmacies in the San Diego
This is when I needed the 7.5 and I was able to find a pharmacy that has it and they seem to continue to have it.
Oh, that's incredible and yes, I appreciate your story. I was actually reading today how to get Monjaro in 2023, which, you know, it's a brand name for what a drug called, am I saying this right, terzepatide? I don't know if I'm saying it right. Anyway, they said a lot of it you can get online. I was like, what? And yeah, telehealth can prescribe this. I didn't know. I didn't know this at all. Did you?
No. You know, people are kind of trying different things. And you know, actually, Debbie, I think it's good that patients and people in general can be more educated now and Actually ask doctors about it and things like that. This is the Wild West When it comes to weight loss drugs and I'm certain we'll find our way eventually But I think it's a good thing that we are we can we can ask about these things. I Do too. I really do I think
Diabetes and obesity and just people who struggle with their weight their entire lives is like it just keeps them from living the life they really should be living on this planet. If we were able to help crack this incredible challenging code here, boy, a lot of people would have better lives and better times and experiences and less illness and less mental illness because it's a lot combined in there. It really is. It's about self-esteem and confidence and everything, right? Everything. It's just a meaningful time.
We could talk for a few hours plus probably about this. Yep. There's just one thing I just want to encourage people who are listening to this and that is if you are feeling frustrated with your way to, of course, diabetic care to seek out answers and solutions and this could be one of them for you. And I think just as a society, we have been just saying for years calories in, calories out but it doesn't work that way and every individual could be different. And so find the solutions that work for you not only with medicine but also emotional emotional help, nutritional help, physical kind of things, it's all combined. And keep seeking those answers because I believe they're out there for you.
Yeah, great point Donna. Last question for you dear. Nobody likes to talk about the downside of things they are hopeful about, but did you have any side effects from Mount Jaro that you didn't see coming or you knew were possible?
Yeah, a little bit of digestive issues, but those went away after I was on it for about
60 days. All right, awesome. Donna Kozik, tell everybody what the name of your company is in case they need your help because I'm so glad I have you in my life. Anybody who wants to write a book and wants to actually get it done, she's an amazing buddy to have, book writing and publishing coach for her company. It's doneforyoupublishing.com, am I right?
we're calling it now? Yes, done for you publishing.com you can pick up your own publishing checklist there. Debbie I'm so excited about publishing your book I can't wait to talk to you about that next time. I can't believe we're not
getting it done it's called how to talk to strangers advice from a professional stranger talker and we had a lot of laughs about it hopefully we'll have more Don I love you wish you continued great health and thanks for taking the time on the show today.
Love you too, Debbie, anytime. Love you too, Debbie, anytime.