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Beyond the Mega Shipper: Finding  Untapped Demand with Shan Wu

The Logistics of Logistics Podcast

Release Date: 10/14/2025

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In “Beyond the Mega Shipper: Finding  Untapped Demand”, Joe Lynch and Shan Wu, Co-founder of breadd.ai, discuss the massive, yet often overlooked, opportunity in the mid-market. This essential pivot from chaotic prospecting to laser-focused selling is what breadd.ai helps brokers achieve.

About Shan Wu

Shan Wu is the cofounder of breadd.ai. As a lifelong sales rep, Shan has sold anything from billion dollar payment contracts to "nothing": cold calling for donations as a telefundraiser – and he still argues freight is the hardest thing to sell. He believes there's enough for everyone to eat in freight today – it's just in the mid-market while everyone fights for the top 100 shippers. So he has built breadd.ai to help brokers operationalize a winning sales strategy, in a brainlessly easy way.

About breadd.ai

breadd.ai helps brokers sell freight in any market. Today, more than 100 brokers wake up to a list of shipper leads every morning, without lifting a finger. Each shipper is pre-qualified to fit their niche, and fully researched with facilities, decision makers, and phone numbers that get picked up. All you have to do is wake up and call. Stop prospecting and start selling – get your free trial today at breadd.ai.

Key Takeaways: Beyond the Mega Shipper: Finding  Untapped Demand

  • In “Beyond the Mega Shipper: Finding  Untapped Demand”, Joe Lynch and Shan Wu, Co-founder of breadd.ai, discuss the massive, yet often overlooked, opportunity in the mid-market. This essential pivot from chaotic prospecting to laser-focused selling is what breadd.ai helps brokers achieve.
  • The Mid-Market is the True Untapped Demand: Shan Wu argues that brokers and carriers should shift their focus beyond the mega shipper. The real opportunity and profitability in freight lies in the highly addressable, but less fiercely contested, mid-market, where there is "enough for everyone to eat."
  • Freight is the Hardest Sale: Drawing on his experience selling everything from "nothing" to billion-dollar contracts, Shan believes freight sales are uniquely challenging. This perspective highlights the critical need for a new, efficient sales strategy to succeed in the current logistics landscape.
  • Operationalize Your Sales Strategy: The path to winning in the mid-market is not just hustle, but structure. Brokers must adopt a "brainlessly easy" and operationalized winning sales strategy to move away from chaotic, inefficient cold outreach.
  • The Shift: Stop Prospecting, Start Selling: The goal of modern sales tools like breadd.ai is to eliminate the time-consuming grunt work of finding and qualifying leads. The key takeaway for brokers is the mandate to transition their daily activities from prospecting (researching) to pure selling (calling and closing).
  • Niche-Fitting and Pre-Qualification are Non-Negotiable: Untapped demand isn't just about finding any new shipper; it's about finding the right one. Success hinges on receiving leads that are pre-qualified to fit a broker's specific niche and lane requirements.
  • Leverage Research for Higher Pickup Rates: Breadd.ai's model demonstrates the value of full lead research. Targeting specific decision-makers with verified phone numbers significantly increases the chances of a successful conversation and closes the loop on truly finding "tapped" demand.
  • Technology as the Equalizer: The power of AI isn't just in load matching; it's in sales enablement. Shan’s vision for breadd.ai shows how technology can empower over 100 brokers daily to compete effectively by waking up to a ready-to-call list of researched leads, leveling the playing field against larger competitors.

Learn More About Beyond the Mega Shipper: Finding  Untapped Demand

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The Logistics of Logistics Podcast