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S3E3: Balancing Act: Coping, healing, and the art of gallows humor

Release Date: 04/14/2025

S3E3: Balancing Act: Coping, healing, and the art of gallows humor

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Episode Description: In this episode, we explore a topic often left unspoken but widely experienced—how child abuse professionals use dark humor to cope with the emotional weight of their work. Joined by neurohumorist Karyn Buxman, an expert in the therapeutic power of laughter, we discuss how humor serves as a lifeline in challenging environments. Discover the fine line between humor as a coping mechanism and when it might become harmful. Guest: Karyn Buxman, RN, MSN, CSP, CPAE Neurohumorist Speaker Hall of Fame ...

S3E2: Spaces that Thrive: A director's approach to staff wellness in CACs

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Episode Description: What makes some professionals thrive while others struggle, even with strong leadership? In this episode, we explore the key factors that contribute to a positive and healthy workplace in the child advocacy field. Joined by Paige Piper, Executive Director of BraveBE Child Advocacy Center, and Lori Wells Brown, CEO of Lotus Children's Advocacy Center, we discuss how both organizational culture and physical environments shape well-being and resilience in CAC professionals. Discover the strategies that foster a thriving and engaged workforce. ...

S3E1: From Sacrifice to Sustainability: Transforming the culture of CACs

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Episode 1: From Sacrifice to Sustainability: Transforming the culture of CACs Guest: Sufna John, PhD Associate Professor, Co-Director of the Arkansas Building Effective Services for Trauma (ARBEST) program University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Episode Description: In this episode, we explore how Children’s Advocacy Centers are evolving beyond outdated professional norms that often lead to burnout and martyrdom. Dr. Sufna John, a licensed psychologist and expert in trauma-informed care, joins us to share her insights on...

S2E7: Unlocking the Secrets: A Q&A on developing forensic interviewers

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Season 2: Forensic Interviewer Growth Continuum Episode 1: Unlocking the Secrets: A Q&A on developing forensic interviewers Forensic interviewers play a crucial role in gathering information from victims, especially when it involves vulnerable populations like children. But what does it take to become a skilled forensic interviewer? How do we develop their expertise and ensure their techniques adhere to the highest professional standards? Forensic interviewing requires a unique blend of skills, empathy, and the ability to work with the multidisciplinary team. In this episode, we offer a...

S2E6: Building Resilience: Empowering forensic interviewers for sustainable success

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Season 2: Forensic Interviewer Growth Continuum Episode 6: Building Resilience: Empowering forensic interviewers for sustainable success As forensic interviewers bear witness to the harrowing narratives of children who have experienced trauma, these stories can have profound effects on the well-being of interviewers. The cumulative toll of this work can contribute to many facets of secondary traumatic stress. In this episode, we will explore the impact of this work on forensic interviewers and shed light on the crucial role supervisors play in supporting their well-being. Discover how...

S2E5: Nurturing Growth: Mentorship and supervision in forensic interviewing

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S2E4: Unleashing Potential: Exploring cutting-edge programming for forensic interviewer skill enhancement

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Season 2: Forensic Interviewer Growth Continuum Episode 4: Unleashing Potential: Exploring cutting-edge programming for forensic interviewer skill enhancement In a world where forensic interviewers are yearning to enhance their skills, building innovative programs is necessary. These programs equip forensic interviewers with the tools they need to navigate the ever-evolving landscape of their work. In this episode, we are featuring two remarkable guests who have revolutionized the landscape of forensic interviewing in their states. Join us as we dive into a captivating discussion with these...

S2E3: Strength in Unity: The crucial role of MDT and forensic interviewer alignment

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Season 2: Forensic Interviewer Growth Continuum Episode 3: Strength in Unity: The crucial role of MDT and forensic interviewer alignment Oftentimes a case is referred to the Children’s Advocacy Center (CAC) without formal structure or policies in place to support the alignment between the multidisciplinary team (MDT) investigators and the forensic interview. How the forensic interviewer and MDT investigators collaborate is imperative to ensure a positive experience for the child and family. In this episode, we will discuss how your CAC can achieve alignment from the forensic interview...

S2E2: Unveiling the NCAC Pathways Model: Building deeper understanding of forensic interviewer training

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Season 2: Forensic Interviewer Growth Continuum Episode 2: Unveiling the NCAC Pathways Model: Building deeper understanding of forensic interviewer training Forensic interviewers have a responsibility to stay up to date with best practices to guarantee that they are providing the best forensic interview possible. They can do this by participating in relevant and ongoing training. This spans from their first core training to advanced, specialized topics and everything in-between. In this episode, we will explore the National Children’s Advocacy Center new PATHWAYS approach to developing...

S2E1: Building Strong Foundations: The importance of onboarding forensic interviewers

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Season 2: Forensic Interviewer Growth Continuum Episode 1: Building Strong Foundations: The importance of onboarding forensic interviewers Forensic Interviewing has advanced drastically since its development in the 1980s and continues to evolve every day. We recognize that effective onboarding for forensic interviewers is more than just a checklist - it's a transformative process that shapes the trajectory of forensic interviewers' careers. In this episode, we explore the impact of having a comprehensive and thoughtful onboarding process, so that organizations and professionals can establish a...

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Episode Description:

In this episode, we explore a topic often left unspoken but widely experienced—how child abuse professionals use dark humor to cope with the emotional weight of their work. Joined by neurohumorist Karyn Buxman, an expert in the therapeutic power of laughter, we discuss how humor serves as a lifeline in challenging environments. Discover the fine line between humor as a coping mechanism and when it might become harmful.

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Guest:

Karyn Buxman, RN, MSN, CSP, CPAE

Neurohumorist

Speaker Hall of Fame

Show Notes:

In this episode, host Christina Rouse dives into a delicate and seldom discussed topic in the child advocacy field about how professionals use gallows humor and dark humor to cope with the emotional toll of their work. Joined by neurohumorist Karyn Buxman, this episode explores the science behind humor, how it serves as a tool for stress relief, and when it may cross the line. Karyn shares her expert insights on how humor impacts brain function, helping professionals recover from amygdala hijack moments and regain cognitive control in the face of trauma. Through a dynamic conversation, Christina and Karyn discuss how laughter can be both a lifeline and, at times, a liability when used without care in sensitive environments.

The episode also features sound bites from professionals on the frontlines of child abuse prevention, discussing their experiences with humor as a coping mechanism, and Karyn details the 7 Humor Competencies of High Performers she developed: Rapport/Bond, Context, Authenticity, Safety, Timing, Content, and Delivery. The episode encourages listeners to understand the nuances of gallows humor, while also offering practical advice on fostering healthier workplace humor that doesn’t cross ethical boundaries. Karyn provides guidance for leaders on creating supportive environments and using humor mindfully, emphasizing that while abused children are no joke, laughter can help heal the caregivers and improve the care provided to victims.

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Key Quote:

“Humor enables us to rise above any situation, even if only for a few seconds. When we’re dealing with trauma, pain, and stress, sometimes just getting that small moment of relief is essential.”- Karyn Buxman

Resources:

Meet Karyn Buxman [Website]

gallows humor (noun) - humor that makes fun of a life-threatening, disastrous, or terrifying situation [Definition]

7 Humor Competencies of High Performers by Karyn Buxman [Resource]

Man’s Search for A Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl [Book]

"It is well known that humor, more than anything else in the human make-up, can afford an aloofness and an ability to rise above any situation, even if only for a few seconds." From “Man’s Search for a Meaning” -Viktor E. Frankl

“Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.” -Viktor E. Frankl