Heavy Or Not - The O.G. Swim Guide
A thought-provoking and insightful exploration of the intersection of sports, technology, and human potential. = Heavy Or Not delves deeper into social issues, such as access to sports, cost of wellness, the impact of technology, and the importance of community engagement. Heavy Or Not incorporates the evolving role of A.I. in sports training, exploring both the benefits and potential drawbacks of this technology. The show integrates valuable educational content on swimming techniques, water safety, and environmental issues, making it more than just a sports drama. From the gritty pools of Pittsburgh to the ambitious rebuild of the Salmon Arm Aquatic Centre in BC, Canada, to the elite ISCA meets of Florida, this inspiring series follows a diverse cast of coaches and swimmers as they navigate the challenges and triumphs of competitive swimming.
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Recruiting Heart Over Hype
12/01/2025
Recruiting Heart Over Hype
Episode #66 of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide Small-school recruiting, inspiring youth through swimming, international outreach, and Kyle’s unique journey in swim development. UPJ Might Be the Best Kept Secret in College Swimming. D2 schools can attract elite talent, and Coach Kile Zimmer is building at UPJ. He might change your mind about the value of a branch campus! From Dubai to Johnstown – This Coach is Recruiting Worldwide too. Coach Kile Zimmer isn’t just building a swim team, he’s crafting a campus community. Hear how he’s reaching athletes from India, France, Brazil, and beyond. Many Coaches Don’t Talk About This. Understand what makes a coach go from good to unforgettable. Coach Zimmer reveals the one thing most coaches overlook, but he lives by. The #1 Cause of Death for Kids Under 8… And What This Coach is Doing About It This episode goes deeper than college competition. Coach Zimmer is on a mission from God to prevent childhood drowning. In his past position in an assistant at a rural college campus, he taught 200 kids to swim. How a Small Swim Team went on a Pathway to National Recognition One of his prior club swim teams, with just 48 swimmers, produced elite athletes who dominated at Spring Juniors? Coach Zimmer shares how he built a powerhouse in a tiny town. Now he is gearing up for the next challenge of building a program at D2 UPJ. The one thing Coach Kile Zimmer seems to live by, and emphasizes throughout the interview, is this: “Serve selflessly and inspire through swimming.” This philosophy shows up repeatedly in his words and actions: He volunteers with USA Swimming and values giving back without expecting anything in return. He emphasizes building relationships, not just recruiting stats. He talks about instilling a love of swimming and helping others reach their potential—whether that’s coaching kids, mentoring coaches, or serving underserved communities. He refers to his mission as a “calling from God” to help people through swimming—from preventing childhood drownings to developing elite athletes. In his own words: “When you’re blessed to help people… you instill the love of swimming and inspire them. It’s my mission from God. That’s what I do in life.”. That’s the heartbeat of his message—and it’s powerful.
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Navigating Division Shifts: Swim Coach, Kile Zeller on St. Francis’s Move from D1 to D3
12/01/2025
Navigating Division Shifts: Swim Coach, Kile Zeller on St. Francis’s Move from D1 to D3
Now at UPJ and focused on recruiting with a local priority but international hopes. Building a Competitive Swim Program at UPJ: Scholarships, Recruiting, and Team Culture From Tears to Triumph: How St. Francis Swimmers Stayed Strong After Division Change There is no playbook on that heavy administrative downgrade. The Coach‑Athlete Relationship: Trust, Recovery, and Performance in Collegiate Swimming Balancing Academics and Athletics: Affordable Tuition and Scholarship Strategies at UPJ Recruiting with Heart: Why Coach Zeller Prioritizes Team Fit Over Finances Taper Strategies Across Sports: Lessons from Wrestling Applied to Swimming Success Embracing D3 Opportunities: Why St. Francis’s Division Drop May Benefit Swimmers Inside a Growing Swim Team: Challenges, Bus Rides, and Community Support at UPJ Staying Present in a Distracted World: Coach Zeller’s Advice for Young Athletes Coach Kile Zeller talks about the heavy news from the shift and St. Francis’ move to Division III. He was in the process of getting hired as the new and original coach at Univ of Pittsburgh Johnstown, of D2. Learn how a funds its swim team, and what his day‑to‑day coaching philosophy looks like. He also shares insights on recruiting, athlete‑coach relationships, and campus collaboration. The transition of St. Francis from D1 to D3 and its impact on swimmers UPJ tuition costs, academic aid, and the limited athletic scholarships available Recruiting approach: honesty, fit, and keeping athletes on campus for the long term Coaching style: trust, communication, recovery work, and individualized stroke analysis Cross‑sport support at UPJ: working with wrestling, soccer, compliance, and campus resources
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Head Swim Coach Kile Zeller, launching new NCAA M&W D2 squads at UPJ - Open for Opportunities
11/27/2025
Head Swim Coach Kile Zeller, launching new NCAA M&W D2 squads at UPJ - Open for Opportunities
Life at University of Pittsburgh Johnstown: Campus Beauty, Close‑Knit Community, and Opportunities for Athletes Get a behind‑the‑scenes look at Coach Kyle Zeller’s first year building a D‑II men's & women’s swim program at UPJ— from historic PSAC meet wins to the next‑gen recruiting playbook. Watch how he turns a modest pool into a squad where the person comes first. He is keeping student‑athletes front of mind. What’s Covered: Building a competitive PSAC program and historic meet qualification Recruiting tactics: internal talent, high‑school stars & value propositions Marketing & outreach: podcasts, local media, coach networking Campus & facility snapshot: 25‑yard pool, Appalachian views, small‑school perks Break‑time training, student‑athlete balance & growth roadmap for 2026 / 2027 Some mentions in this, part one of three, episode, #64 of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide: The PSAC is fast – our UPJ swimmers just made history with our first PSAC qualifier, Mark DePalma, who smashed the cut by two seconds. Recruiting started late April 2025, but we’ve already secured the valedictorian of Marion Center High, a 4.8‑GPA swimmer, as our inaugural college recruit. We’re promoting the men’s and women’s teams across PA, hitting high‑school meets, club events, and even a Fox 8 interview to spread the word. Our facility is a basic six‑lane, 25‑yard pool with stunning Appalachian Mountain views, fresh tiling, and a million‑dollar recent renovation. Campus life: 729 acres of woods, ski‑chalet dorms, top engineering and nursing programs, and a close‑knit community where the AD knows every student’s name.
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Elite Coaching (and Athletics) is a Heavy Lifestyle
11/23/2025
Elite Coaching (and Athletics) is a Heavy Lifestyle
Elite coaching isn’t a myth. It’s a choice and science built on relentless work, crystal‑clear goals, and total alignment of mind, heart, and body. In this episode of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide, #63, we break down some of the bits of what it takes to train like the world’s top athletes. What “elite” really means and why it’s a whole different universe from ordinary competition The brutal training load: 12 sessions/week, 6 hours/day, 24,000 m of swimming daily The three‑key framework: mind (goal clarity), heart (inner drive), body (smart recovery) The seven pillars of elite coaching—from active listening to adaptive programming The deeper motivators beyond money: honor, legacy, and self‑mastery The Brutal (and Beautiful) Truth About What It Really Takes to Be Elite in Sport Also see the full seminar called Elite Coaching, level 1, from Dennis Antonio Cordova in the course at WAFSU.org. From Vision to Victory: Craft Crystal‑Clear Goals for High‑Performance Success Subscribe to this podcast and share with others.
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The Gift of Swimming Propulsion with Dr. Maglischo's insight
11/21/2025
The Gift of Swimming Propulsion with Dr. Maglischo's insight
Swimming Mechanics: Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide The Science of Speed: Unpacking Resistance and Propulsion in Elite Swimming Doctor Ernie Maglischo is an ISCA & ASCA Hall of Fame Coach and still updating his most recent ebooks. Understand the biomechanics of swimming and explore how elite athletes generate propulsive force and minimize water resistance in the pool. Drawing on expert analysis, we examine the fundamental characteristics of water flow, classifying water as a semi-solid whose density is over 800 times greater than air. Learn how competitive swimmers battle resistive drag—including form drag (profile drag) and lateral form drag—by maintaining laminar flow and optimal horizontal alignment. This analysis confronts common misconceptions in stroke mechanics: • Is Hip Rotation Propulsive? We challenge the popular notion that hip rotation is a source of propulsion in long-axis strokes (like the front crawl), arguing instead that it primarily serves to reduce water resistance and increase the effectiveness of arm and leg propulsion. • The Best Arm Stroke: Compare the controversial deep-catch, straight-back pull (which some researchers suggest is superior for generating propulsive thrust) with the widely preferred curvilinear stroking and shoulder adduction used by the majority of elite swimmers in all four competitive strokes. We explore why the shoulder-adducting style may be universally used in longer events, while the deep catch may be superior for sprints (50m/yd). Discover the true sources of speed: • Vortex Theory: Understand how swimmers create vortices and a pressure differential to propel themselves forward. Propulsive thrust is generated because the pressure on the palm side of the hand is higher relative to the dorsal side, where pressure decreases due to vortex formation. • The Catch: Learn why elite swimmers intentionally decelerate their hand speed to near zero during the crucial catch phase, positioning the arm backward before applying propulsive force. • Wave Propulsion: Investigate unique propulsive concepts like wave propulsion (or “body wave”) and the importance of undulation in short-axis strokes (butterfly and breaststroke). See how breaststrokers like Mike Barrowman utilize streamlined positioning during the arm recovery to benefit from this wave phase, accelerating continuously for a short time. The analysis in the ebook uses visualizations, including actual photographs of elite swimmers like Grant Hackett, Martin Lopez-Zubero, Mary T. Meagher, and video simulations/CFD renderings of water flow around limbs. Get the ebook from the link at .
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Coaches Don’t Just Win Games. They Build Brands.
11/17/2025
Coaches Don’t Just Win Games. They Build Brands.
From Locker Room to Loyalty Loop: The Sports Marketing Journey of Purpose. Coaches must handle the technical side, the physical side and all the Xs and Os. But let's Think again about sports marketing. Dr. Olena Timasheva, sports marketing professor in the university presented to the international audience at WAFSU.org and was able to reveal the coaches roles in digital strategy, sponsorship, and fan engagement. More than motivators, coaches today are key to driving revenue, fan connection, and team brand identity. Blending the intensity of the game with the science of segmentation is where coaching meets modern sports marketing. Get all the slides, discussion questions and the full 70-minute seminar in the free course at -- World Aquatic Federation for Schools and Universities. In episode #61 of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide, we peek into the playbook for turning a local sports team into a global brand. Learn the proven framework that top clubs like Liverpool and Manchester City use to drive fan loyalty and revenue. The three‑pillar framework: market segmentation, research & targeting, and the 80/20 loyalty investment rule. How to segment fans by demographics, geography, psychographics and behavior for maximum impact. Digital tactics that work: social media two‑way dialogue, user‑generated content, and hyper‑personalized email campaigns. Building authentic sponsorships and partnerships that align with your brand’s core values. The top three challenges facing sports marketers today: tech & data privacy, shifting fan preferences, and economic/social issues. This episode is just a short invite to explore the full seminar by Dr. Olena Timasheva of the Ukraine. How do your Coaches, Players, and Data Drive Loyalty‑Focused Marketing in your Sports Organizations? We want to hear from you. Keywords: sports marketing, coach role, market segmentation, age groups, gender targeting, income levels, geographic segmentation, psychographic segmentation, behavioral segmentation, loyalty tiers, branding, brand identity, brand positioning, brand loyalty, marketing mix, product price place promotion, digital marketing, social media, content marketing, email marketing, fan engagement, loyalty programs, sponsorship partnerships, community outreach, case study Liverpool, case study NBA, case study Manchester City, case study NFL, case study Barcelona, case study Manchester United, case study Red Bull, case study Under Armour, Ukraine sports market, low income audience, high income audience, mid income audience, fan demographics, fan psychology, community-driven fans, status seekers, VIP experiences, family packages, merchandise strategy, interactive technology, virtual events, customized sponsorship, ROI metrics, marketing challenges, trends
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Shoulder Rotation Is a Key to Unlocking Swimming Speed
11/14/2025
Shoulder Rotation Is a Key to Unlocking Swimming Speed
Hidden Biomechanics of Shoulder Medial Rotation That Separate Good Swimmers From Great Alert: This episode is better if viewed with the video due to the descriptive words used by Coach Steve. See: Swim faster by mastering shoulder medial rotation. Coach Steve Friederang breaks down why this subtle cue makes or breaks your pull in all four strokes. Join Coach in a lesson with two aspiring swimmers and hear how he thinks and explains this vital move. Why medial shoulder rotation is the key to an early vertical forearm and a powerful catch. How outward‑rotated shoulders prevent forward pull and waste energy. Visual cues to spot improper rotation on the deck and in video. Practical drills to train the rotator cuff for inward shoulder positioning. How balanced shoulder‑rotator strength affects stroke efficiency and injury prevention. Join Coaches, Steve Friederang and Mark Rauterkus on a weekly chat at 1:30 pm EASTERN every Wednesday. We’re online and your input is welcome as well. Use the link at the correct time!
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Empowering Female Athletes - Course. Plus a Grant and VC pitch for investment
11/08/2025
Empowering Female Athletes - Course. Plus a Grant and VC pitch for investment
Unlocking Potential with girls, grants and angel investors in Youth Coaching Discover how to coach girls effectively and learn about a new scalable aquatic platform, all in this episode, #59, of Heavy Or Not. Quick updates on multiple topics. CoachingHer supplies the free digital toolkit, created by Dr. Nicole LaVoi and the Tucker Center, by visiting . Core psychological needs for female athletes: competence, choice, and care – presented as a simple cycle. The CoachingHer pyramid: physiological basics → safety → belonging → esteem → self‑actualization. Then, the second application for the $50,000 Moonshot Aquatics Grant. There is still hope for the funding for the AI Coaching Wizard. Lastly, we seek assistance from Angel investors to launch of a media‑first aquatic lifestyle brand that turns swimming into a scalable, inclusive community. Access the free resources: 1. Introduction to the CoachingHer Program Purpose & Vision – A free video and course designed to help coaches effectively coach girls and women. Why Coaching Matters – Coaches are a key factor in whether girls enter, stay, or drop out of sport. Creator Background – Dr. Nicole M. LaVoi: former tennis coach, scholar‑educator, Director of the Tucker Center for Research on Girls & Women in Sport. Core Issue Highlighted – Unconscious gender bias & stereotypes that hurt girls’ self‑perceptions. Toolkit Features – Evidence‑based, on‑demand digital resources; bookmarkable, pause‑and‑play, device‑agnostic. Upcoming Modules – Body‑confident coaching, de‑stigmatizing menstruation, mental‑health, body‑image. Community Call‑to‑Action – Join, spread the word, become “her reason” to stay in sport. 2. Accessing the Materials & Learning Management System (LMS) Link Provided –read.swimisca.org(redirects to the International Swim Coaches Association LMS). Free Availability – All CoachingHer resources are offered at no charge. Support & Funding – Program supported by the University of Minnesota, Nike, and other major sponsors. 3. Mark Rauterkus’s Personal Coaching Context Location & Setting – Coach in Pittsburgh, PA; Assistant Coach at an independent girls‑only private school (akin to an international school). Observations on Coaching Girls vs. Boys/Co‑ed – Distinct approaches needed; emphasis on psychological needs. 4. Psychological Needs Framework for Coaching Girls Three Core Needs (Cycle) Competence – Development and improvement of sport‑specific skills. Choice – Empowering athletes with self‑determination (e.g., attendance, skill focus, event selection). Care – Demonstrating genuine value and individualized attention. Reverse Ordering Mentioned – Care → Choice → Competence, emphasizing the cyclical nature. 5. Pyramid of Athlete Needs (Adapted from CoachingHer/Tucker Center) Base Layer – Physiological Needs Food, water, warmth, safety, appropriate pool environment, locker‑room logistics, travel considerations, weather conditions. Second Layer – Psychological/Safety Needs Sense of belonging, love, relationships, team bonding, camaraderie, inclusion. Third Layer – Esteem Needs Self‑pride, prestige, accomplishment, building confidence, avoiding belittlement. Top Layer – Self‑Actualization/Fulfillment Achieving full potential, creative expression, personal growth. 6. Grant & Funding Opportunities Moonshot Aquatics Grant – Version 2 $50,000 Letter‑of‑Intent (LOI) round; previous attempt unsuccessful, now re‑submitted with additional partners. AI assistance used in drafting the application. Insights from Barry Healey “If you don’t ask, you don’t get.” – Emphasis on persistence. Grant outcomes often depend on reviewer bias, regional trends, and timing. 7. Challenges Facing the Aquatic Industry Current Issues Pool closures, disengaged parents, coach turnover, lack of unified brand, fragmented solutions, weak industry voices. Market Gap – No scalable, cohesive platform that ties together content, community, and commerce for swimming. 8. Proposed Solution: A Scalable Aquatic Lifestyle Brand Concept Overview Podcast → Platform → Evergreen training → National TV rollout. Leadership & Credentials Mark Rauterkus (50+ years in swimming, 100+ published titles) backed by International Swim Coaches Association. Business Model Highlights Media‑first approach targeting youth sport but extending across a lifetime. Early‑bird opportunity: 150,000 USD for early entry; existing content & network already in place. Scalability & Execution No prior aquatics experience required for participants. Demonstrated metrics and rapid momentum. Positioning “Ted Lasso for the pools” – delivering fun, sticky, inclusive swimming experiences. 9. Closing Call‑to‑Action Invitation to Investors & Partners – “Let’s talk… big gusts of wind in our sails.” Final Thanks – Appreciation for the audience’s time and attention.
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Was Illegal, Now Genius? This Backstroke Move Is Finishing Fast
11/05/2025
Was Illegal, Now Genius? This Backstroke Move Is Finishing Fast
Coach Steve Friederang unpacks a technique with private-lesson athletes that’s bending by-gone rules without breaking them. Could this be the biggest backstroke breakthrough since dolphin kicks off the wall? In this episode of Heavy Or Not - The OG Swim Guide, biomechanist and elite swim coach Steve Friederang breaks down a newly misunderstood, and presently underused, backstroke finishing technique in forward thinking swimming: the underwater kicking returns at the finish for speedy backstroke. With a recent rule change allowing swimmers to submerge in the final 5 meters of a backstroke race, Steve shares how he’s helping top-tier athletes legally use dolphin kicks all the way to the touch on the wall, and gain a serious edge. You’ll learn: Why this backstroke rule exists (and how it’s misunderstood) How elite swimmers train underwater finishes without losing speed The biomechanics behind maximizing your dolphin kick Drills, tools, and safety tips to train like a pro Real results from swimmers dropping seconds, not tenths Whether you're a coach, swimmer, or swim parent, this episode is packed with practical insights and race-changing techniques. Subscribe to catch our weekly swim strategy sessions and training deep dives. New episodes are going to be open for live discussions every Wednesday at 1:30 PM ET. Got questions or ideas? Drop them in the comments. We might feature them next week! Opt in at or else at Steve's Competitive Swimmer magazine.
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Protecting Swim Coaches: Insurance Solutions for Peace of Mind and Retention
11/04/2025
Protecting Swim Coaches: Insurance Solutions for Peace of Mind and Retention
In this episode of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide, we discuss why insurance coverage is a critical need for swimming coaches and how Barry Healey with ISCA and the BC Swimming Coaches Association are working on the discovery for solutions to fortify the profession and passions of coaches. What you'll learn: What if every coach had $1‑2 M in liability insurance and lawyer support. Let's consider all the modern risks of going uninsured. Real‑world scenarios that have cost coaches financially and mentally. How advocates are negotiating insurance options and potential membership fees. Plans for a joint venture to embed insurance education and mental‑health training into coach certification. How you can get involved – sign up on the Heavy Or Not form to stay informed and help shape the solution. Turning Insurance Into Retention: Keeping Coaches in Competitive Swimming and Sport
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We Are: College Swimming 101 with Penn State's Hollie Bonewit-Cron
10/28/2025
We Are: College Swimming 101 with Penn State's Hollie Bonewit-Cron
Catch the latest deep‑dive with Penn State swimming head coach Hollie Bonewit‑Cron as she breaks down recruiting, training schedules, and the evolving college‑swim landscape. From dual‑meet highlights against Pitt to her career path and future plans, get the key takeaways from a clinic to coaches when she was in her first season as the head coach in Happy Valley. In this video you'll learn: How Penn State structures its practice groups, pool assignments, and daily training blocks. The current recruiting pipeline, international talent, and scholarship timelines for the classes. Holly’s coaching philosophy on culture, accountability, and balancing academics with athletics. Insights on the transfer portal, roster caps, and how the program navigates NCAA rule changes. A quick recap of Hollie’s career journey, from Athens, Ohio, and an OU swimmer to coaching as a Florida assistant and then to Miami of Ohio to Penn State head coach. Penn State Swimming’s Fresh Vision: Coaching, Recruiting, and Culture Under Hollie Bonewit‑Cron Questions from the audience too. Managing Burnout, Time, and Recovery for Elite College Swimmers at Penn State
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Swim Data Crisis Looms Large with USA Swimming Time Sharing
10/13/2025
Swim Data Crisis Looms Large with USA Swimming Time Sharing
Is USA Swimming Holding the Sport Hostage? USA Swimming’s data drama is setting the sport back decades — and it’s hurting athletes, families, and innovation. Here's what they're not telling you... Why Swim Times Are Disappearing Imagine training all year only for your swim times to vanish into thin air. This podcast exposes the growing blackout and the fight for data transparency. The Swim Data Crisis No One Is Talking About Developers are quitting. Parents are confused. Swimmers are in the dark. The future of competitive swimming depends on solving this data nightmare. In this candid conversation we hear about the growing crisis around swim meet result data—why PDF‑only posting is hurting athletes, coaches, and developers. Michael Krone explains the barriers, the mis‑interpretations of privacy rules, and what’s on the horizon. What you’ll learn: Why parsing PDFs for meet times is a dead‑end solution for the sport. How LSEs misread USA Swimming’s privacy policy and are removing raw result files. The impact on third‑party tools like MySwim IO and Swim Standards. USA Swimming’s planned API rollout (estimated 4‑5 months) and its limitations. Action steps for coaches, parents, and developers to push for open, accessible meet data.
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The Single: Vintage Vibes, Machine Made
10/08/2025
The Single: Vintage Vibes, Machine Made
After repeated requests, this single is being lifted from the rewind show, #50, at the end of season one and put into its own episode. CDs were pressed and offered at The Eastern States Clinic and elsewhere, but too few have CD players. Go figure. Enjoy the tune delivered by recycled electrons. Its message is a calling for you to do a complete rewind of the prior episodes. Binge on the content and skip into the future with confidence! But no running on the pool deck. This song shows what happens when AI writes a track for a gritty show about real human struggle in swimming and coaching. Heavy Or Not: The Single is a machine-made, vintage-inspired musical experiment that hits like a lost 45 RPM classic—pressed with purpose, soaked in soul, and spun by artificial intelligence. This isn’t just another song release. It’s what happens when emotion meets algorithm. And it’s about to change how we think about music, storytelling, and tech. Want to feel vintage vibes without breaking the bank? Ever wonder what it sounds like when AI creates art that hits you in the gut? Think old-school records are dead? Let this track prove you wrong. If you love real music with a twist you won’t see coming—keep listening. Warning: You may not believe a machine made this… Whether you're a nostalgic crate-digger, a future-focused creator, or just someone who loves a good story set to music—this one's for you. Hit play. Heavy Or Not… you decide. And, let us know. If you want help in crafting your own song for your team, an ISCA travel meet, senior night or the team banquet, then subscribe and then attend our roundtable discussions. We would love to share your song in a future episode. #preach #sing #coach #play
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Five+ Game-Changing Ideas You Haven't Heard Yet -- just revealed at the Eastern States Clinic
10/06/2025
Five+ Game-Changing Ideas You Haven't Heard Yet -- just revealed at the Eastern States Clinic
New Roundtable Series for for Aquatic Professionals and Coaches: Insurance, Intellectual Property, Technology, Fun & Games, and Broadcasting What Every Coach Needs to Hear From the OG Swim Guy Coach Mark Rauterkus breaks down new coaching resources, roundtables, and media opportunities for swim professionals. Watch to learn how you can get involved, access free content, and stay ahead in the industry. Overview of the five weekly roundtables: CYA (insurance), IP in the pool, Tech, Fun & Games, and Broadcasting. Details on WAFSU.org webinars and seminars for schools, universities, and international coaches. Pathways to present your own content on the podcast or at roundtable events. Quick look at the TV show vision and some related media projects (Apple TV’s “Stick,” local Pittsburgh shows). Got ideas? Live from the Eastern States Clinic – Featuring Mark Rauterkus Get ready to rethink community and what you thought you knew about swim coaching. In this episode of Heavy or Not, Mark Rauterkus — the OG Swim Guy and ISCA webmaster — drops five powerful ideas that challenge the status quo of competitive swimming, youth sports, and coach development. From water safety to podcasting, tech tools to mental health for young athletes, this talk at the Eastern States Clinic is packed with insight, experience, and vision for the future of aquatic leadership. Topics Covered: The future of swim education Tech innovation in coaching Mental skills training for young athletes Live streaming and media in aquatic sports The global coaching community via WAFSU Whether you're a high school swim coach, swim parent, or athlete — this is a must-listen. Subscribe to the podcast: Learn more at ISCA: Full archive of episodes available wherever you get your podcasts. #SwimCoach #SwimmingPodcast #MarkRauterkus #EasternStatesClinic #HeavyOrNot #AquaticLeadership #ISCA #SwimTraining #YouthSports
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Navigating Aquatics with Mark Rauterkus: Water Polo, AI Tools, and Community Coaching Strategies
09/19/2025
Navigating Aquatics with Mark Rauterkus: Water Polo, AI Tools, and Community Coaching Strategies
This episode of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide, jumps into a podcast from friend and we replay a recent releaseof Navigating Neva. We had a sit down interview with Nicole and Wes -- and myself, Mark Rauterkus. The coach, podcaster, and ISCA contributor comes gushing about and we explore how swimming, water polo, and tech are reshaping aquatics today. We cover: How Mark launched the “Heavy Or Not” podcast and his vision for expanding its reach. Using water polo to keep swimmers engaged and create a pipeline for lifelong aquatic participation. Mark’s diverse coaching background—from high‑school and college pools to community programs and the Pittsburgh Public Schools “Summer Dreamers.” The role of the International Swim Coaches Association (ISCA) in hosting meets, providing education, and upcoming AI‑driven tools. Practical AI & CRM solutions that streamline pool operations, sponsor outreach, and coach‑parent communications.
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#52 - Must hear stories of a Football QB, Fall Baseball and first words from the new CEO at USA Swimming
09/12/2025
#52 - Must hear stories of a Football QB, Fall Baseball and first words from the new CEO at USA Swimming
It is a great time to be alive and there are some cliff hangers within! David, a devoted athlete turned Doctor and researcher is deploying AI in off-brand discoveries. This is a peek at a MUST HEAR podcast from another source, . Experience a flashback to tracks from a campaign CD with a fall baseball story from Meg Barnhouse. It is chilly and dark under the lights and parents are watching. In the final segment, new USA Swimming CEO issued his first statement that lost me on the "one of" part. May the wind be at his back. Show pointer: A quarterback’s love of football turned into a medical mission after his mom’s brain cancer diagnosis, and now AI is helping him chase new treatments. Listen to the full conversation for the highs, the lows, and the tech driving the fight. David’s roller‑coaster journey from college quarterback to aspiring oncologist. The impact of his mother’s grade‑4 glioblastoma and the promise he made to her. How athletic discipline translates into medical study and research. AI‑powered drug repurposing and off‑label uses discussed in the Radiolab interview. Meg Barnhouse story, Diamonds, was included in a past campaign CD when standing for public office. She gives a parent's perspective on fall baseball. A quick look at USA Swimming’s new CEO, AI‑generated remarks, and the broader conversation about sports, health, and technology. He lost me at "one of" -- as it is THE best and ONLY sport! Pretty transparent isn't "ALWAYS Transparent." Rather than quck and fast meetings, try long, slow and hard meetings that happen soon. Grassroots is good! May the wind be at his back, and the BS be already sucked into the pool's filters.
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Sports Reform: Unraveling Canada’s Fragmented Sports System: Funding, Governance, and the Push for Safe Sport
09/05/2025
Sports Reform: Unraveling Canada’s Fragmented Sports System: Funding, Governance, and the Push for Safe Sport
From Broken Networks to Unified Protection: Reforming Canada’s Sport Landscape for All Participants In this episode of Heavy or Not – Season 2 - #51 we report on Canada’s fragmented sports system, its chronic funding gaps, and why safe sport is now the top priority. We also examine the current complaint mechanisms and explore concrete proposals for a unified, safer future. How Canada’s multi‑layered sport governance (federal, provincial, NSOs, CSOs) creates funding and safety challenges. The link between chronic under‑funding, the “Own the Podium” model, and rising abuse scandals. Existing safe‑sport frameworks (SDRCC, OSIC, CCES) and critical gaps such as legal aid and mental‑health support. Prevention tools in play: the Rule of Two, background screening, and education/training programs. Proposed reforms: a centralized sport entity, stronger governance code, and three options for a national safe‑sport complaint authority. Canada issued a report and is working to unpack problems and find more comprehensive solutions to benefit all citizens.
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Capstone to Season 1 of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide (podcast with folk songs)
08/26/2025
Capstone to Season 1 of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide (podcast with folk songs)
Season 1 of Heavy Or Not proves that swimming isn’t just about laps; it’s a dynamic ecosystem where mindset, technology, community and history intertwine. By applying these 50 lessons / episodes / jump-cuts about training the brain, fine‑tuning the kick, welcoming AI, building inclusive programs, and defending our pools, you’ll elevate not only your athletes’ performance but also the entire swimming culture around you. So the next time you’re planning a practice, remember: every stroke, every supplement, and every conversation can be a step toward a stronger, smarter, and more resilient swim community. Listen and react.
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Called Out: The USA Swimming Leadership Bubble with Demands for Transparent Reform from Michael Phelps and Gold Medal Mel (SwimSwam's Mel Stewart)
08/16/2025
Called Out: The USA Swimming Leadership Bubble with Demands for Transparent Reform from Michael Phelps and Gold Medal Mel (SwimSwam's Mel Stewart)
Reforming USA Swimming: A Blueprint for Transparency, Athlete Services, and Grassroots Growth In episode #49 of Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide, we amplify and break down the growing, explosive, criticism of USA Swimming from Michael Phelps and SwimSwam publisher, Mel Stewart. They, among many others, are exposing a leadership crisis that threatens the sport’s future. Phelps points to the steep drop in U.S. Olympic medal share (57% → 44%) and blames weak board governance. He presents a coalition‑backed, three‑step reform plan: independent board review, athlete‑first services, and grassroots growth. Stewart labels the “Colorado Springs bubble,” highlighting excessive executive pay, stagnant athlete stipends, and a complacent financial safety net. The board’s reaction—including a CEO bonus after a failed software rollout and registration decline—is dissected as misdirection and avoidance. Concrete solutions are proposed: cap top‑executive salaries, tie bonuses to clear KPIs that also raise coach and athlete compensation, and prioritize grassroots revitalization. Links
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Dr. Tom's App - From Classroom to Phone: How a Real‑Life Avatar App Saves Lives in Pools
08/08/2025
Dr. Tom's App - From Classroom to Phone: How a Real‑Life Avatar App Saves Lives in Pools
Discover how Dr. Tom Griffiths turned an eight‑year quest into a free, lifeguard‑training app that simulates real drowning scenarios. Learn why it’s a game‑changer for both everyday swimmers and aquatic facilities. In this jump-cut of Heavy Or Not, #48, you’ll see: The eight‑year development timeline, funding, and partnership challenges. Real‑life‑based simulation scenes that train users to spot victims instantly. Free public access and instant feedback that tracks performance and improvement. A low‑cost subscription option for facilities to monitor lifeguard training data. How the app supports drowning prevention and where to download it today. Many in the USA Swimming Community are in a funk as the CEO post remains vacant and results from the 2025 World Swim Championships were less than ideal. Michael, Ryan, Rowdy and others are sounding off. This begs the question, Heavy Or Not? Jump cut #48 begins with a visit with Dr. Tom Griffiths, retired professor from Penn State University, founder of the firm, Aquatic Safety Research Group. Check out their app! Turning Drowning Prevention into a Game: Eight Scenarios Teach Quick Victim Recognition See:
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Free: Coaching, NIL, and the Real Meaning of Growth
08/05/2025
Free: Coaching, NIL, and the Real Meaning of Growth
Episode 47 – Free: Coaching, NIL, and the Real Meaning of Growth Podcast: Heavy Or Not – The OG Swim Guide Presented by ISCA & U Can Swim In this episode, we take a wide-angle view of the word "free"—through the lens of coaching, NIL decisions, and athlete development. We begin with insights from Coach Nick Saban on recruiting and the dangers of chasing money over long-term development. Saban reminds us: when pro teams call about a player, they don’t ask how much he played as a freshman—they ask, “What kind of person is he?” Character, leadership, trustworthiness. That’s what matters most. Coaches: build value in all those areas. We also highlight NIL.LO.org—a place for coaches, athletes, and educators to explore and discuss NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness). It’s a valuable resource, and we invite you to get involved. Then we shift into the deeper meanings of “free.” Yes, the podcast is free to listen, share, and discuss. But “free” also reflects how we coach, what we teach, and how we grow. Remember freeteam.org? That was about free and open-source software—code you can read, remix, and reuse. That spirit of freedom lives on in how we train and teach. But not all “free” is helpful. At swim camps, we phased out the term “free time” because too often it led to boredom and passive downtime. We prefer structured play, learning, and meaningful recovery. The main feature of this episode is a look at How to Be Free by Shaka Senghor. Shaka is a resilience expert and bestselling author who knows what it means to overcome barriers. He brings his experience—from prison to the page—and offers lessons coaches can use with athletes. One story: a Porsche driving instructor covers the rearview mirror and says, “Look where you want to go, not at what you’re afraid of.” That simple mental shift—looking ahead, not back—is key for athletes recovering from setbacks, injuries, or failure. Don’t live in the past. Learn from it, then move forward. Another moment: Senghor recalls snorkeling in Maui, panicking from saltwater in his snorkel, then deliberately calming himself. That kind of physiological control—breathing, resetting—is critical in sport. Coaches can teach it. Make it a habit. We discuss resilience—the kind forged by adversity. Senghor shares how Derek Redmond finished an Olympic race with a torn hamstring, leaning on his father. And how Shaka, while incarcerated, transformed his physical strength from nothing to 455-pound deadlifts. All of it required mental strength first. We also explore Senghor’s self-belief formula, even if the acronym is a little rough: S.H.I.T. = Success, Hustle, Intelligence, Talent. It’s about owning your growth—celebrating small wins, learning from losses, recognizing your worth. Coaches can use this framework to help athletes build internal validation, not just chase external praise. Whether you're a coach, educator, or athlete, How to Be Free is more than a book title—it’s a coaching framework. It’s about shifting perspectives, building resilience, teaching composure, and unlocking human potential. Referenced Book: How to Be Free by Shaka Senghor ISBN: 9798893310511 | Releases September 9, 2025 More at and Share this episode. Subscribe. And bring your wisdom to the next conversation. A final jump-cut segment is from a swim school owner and author from Cape Town, South Africa, Kathryn Nurse of . She bases her swim education on teaching principles to stroke development. Their method focuses on understanding concepts, breaking down movements, and teaching with purpose—on land and in water. They use mirrors, structure, and education techniques to develop skills from age 5 through adults. More from her in the near future.
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AI in Sports: Bridging the Gap Between Human Intuition and Machine Precision
07/22/2025
AI in Sports: Bridging the Gap Between Human Intuition and Machine Precision
The evolving world of sports coaching hits into AI with our latest jump cut, where technology meets tradition. Discover how AI is reshaping the landscape of swimming and athletic performance. Explore the integration of AI in sports coaching and its impact on performance. Learn about the role of AI in analyzing biomechanics and providing real-time feedback. Understand the balance between human coaching instincts and machine precision. Discover the future of coaching with AI-driven tools and their benefits. Get insights into the latest tech acquisitions in the AI search space, including Apple's rumored purchase of Perplexity AI. Subscribe and stay tuned in for more insights and updates in the world of sports and technology! Keywords: AI in sports, coaching evolution, swimming technology, performance analytics, YMCA film, Below Surface, aquatics engagement, AI-driven tools, athlete improvement, coaching precision, Apple acquisition, Perplexity AI, tech integration, swim coaching, data-driven training, sports transformation, AI search engine, big tech acquisitions, coaching adaptation, future of sports, Heavy or Not podcast, ISCA, LAP.red, swim guide, athlete protection, coaching leadership. "AI in Sports: The Game-Changer You Can't Ignore" Quote: "AI isn't just a tool; it's the silent coach that never blinks, never guesses, and always delivers precision." More at
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Exploring the Emotional and Social Benefits of Wild Swimming in Scotland + Counting Losses and Radio Lab story
07/20/2025
Exploring the Emotional and Social Benefits of Wild Swimming in Scotland + Counting Losses and Radio Lab story
Get a peek at the fascinating world of wild swimming in Scotland and explore some academic research that ponders the unique values and community connections it fosters. Discover how the Act Framework offers a fresh perspective on understanding human-nature interactions. Explore the concept of wild swimming and its cultural ecosystem services. Learn about an Open Water Group of mostly women and its role in valuing nature interactions. Discover the four personas of wild swimmers and their unique community dynamics. Understand the challenges and benefits of wild swimming for women in Scotland. Examine how current policies might unintentionally hinder the growth of wild swimming communities. "It's not just about the swim; it's about the profound connections we forge with nature and each other, all emerging from a the experience of an open-water swim in the wild." Learn how Mick and Sue Nelson of Total Aquatic Programming manage data collection of important facts for the greater aquatic community. This is a heavy job that is handled masterfully. Jump to a mainstream podcast snip from Radio Lab Jim's life story took a turn when he was seven-years-old and his brother didn't come back to the surface in the Mississippi River. See #Keywords #Wild swimming, #Scotland, #open water, cultural ecosystem services, Facilitating Act Framework, nature connection, community, women's empowerment, social values, safety, risk, mental well-being, non-competitive, environmental respect, local knowledge, policy challenges, social media, nature interaction, place attachment, meditative calm, body positivity, inclusivity, support networks, human-nature relationships, swimming personas, empowerment, nature immersion.
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Hyper Care and Out of the Woods Story & Pointer to DrownedBaby.org
07/14/2025
Hyper Care and Out of the Woods Story & Pointer to DrownedBaby.org
A.I. is On Fire First, a bit of an A.I. success story of a company less than 3 years old, and operated by one founder and a handful of others called Base 44. The company was acquired by WIX for millions. A.I. is hot, and this is proof. Source on the Base 44 acquisition is Nomi, at or of , and . A seldom told Story of Hyperbaric Therapy: A Lifeline for Drowning Victims In this jump cut, #44, we visit an episode of the Tom Woods Show to hear from Will, a show guest there. Will shares the remarkable story of Robert, his son, a young boy who defied the odds after a near-fatal incident. Discover the treatments and advocacy efforts that have sparked a conversation about medical protocols and patient rights. The harrowing experience of Robert's drowning and the initial medical response. The role of hyperbaric therapy in Robert's recovery and its potential for treating brain injuries. Challenges faced by parents in advocating for alternative treatments in hospitals. The creation of drownedbaby.org as a resource for parents of drowned children. The broader implications of Robert's story on medical practices and right-to-try laws. A Parent's Journey to Save His Child See the podcast on YouTube of the . See . Keywords Drowning, Hyperbaric Therapy, Robert's Recovery, Organ Donation, Medical Protocols, Inflammation, Brain Injury, Pediatric Care, Solo Founders, Base 44 Acquisition, Wix, Tom Woods Show, Right-to-Try Laws, Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, Reperfusion Injury, Neurological Storming, Alternative Medicine, Parental Advocacy, DrownedBaby.org, Medical Suppression, Early Intervention, Healthcare Challenges, Pediatric Brain Injury, Hyperbaric Chamber, Medical Innovation.
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Flooding Emotions, Queen and Worker Bees, Enhanced Games and Supplementing Your Income with Feel Good, Natural Supplements
07/09/2025
Flooding Emotions, Queen and Worker Bees, Enhanced Games and Supplementing Your Income with Feel Good, Natural Supplements
Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide, #43 Lots are jamming into this jump cut, as the range of topics spans from the emotional impact of the flash flooding in Texas to the impact of nutrition on bees to the potential benefits of health activators. Explore an intersection of science, health, and personal growth. The fascinating role of diet in determining the fate of queen bees and worker bees. The serious concerns surrounding the Enhanced Games and those anti-doping regulations have teeth worth avoiding. The potential health benefits of NRF2 activators and their impact on oxidative stress. Personal stories of improved health and vitality through natural supplements. Opportunities for coaches and teachers to enhance their income through direct sales. Sequence of topics Queen Bee and Worker Bee Same DNA but different roles Role of food in determining their development Example of epigenetics Flash Flooding in Texas Impact on camps and loss of life Importance of camp experiences for personal growth and community building Expression of condolences and hope for safety Enhanced Games and Anti-Doping Concerns USA Swimming's concerns about the Enhanced Games Potential risks of participating in the Enhanced Games WADA's stance on the Enhanced Games Advice for athletes and support staff regarding media inquiries Supplements and Activation Explanation of supplements and their benefits Introduction to the concept of activation NRF2 activator and its health benefits Personal experiences and testimonials LifeVantage and Business Model Transition from traditional sales to direct sales Success of the direct sales model Public trading and recognition on NASDAQ Historical context and media coverage Personal Testimonies and Experiences Bob Kane's personal health improvements Impact of ProTandem on energy and well-being Experiences with driving and physical activities Coaching and Financial Challenges Bob Kane's background as a swimming coach and teacher Financial challenges faced by coaches and teachers Desire to help coaches and teachers achieve financial abundance Business Opportunities with LifeVantage Sharing the benefits of activation with others Tools and resources for sharing the opportunity Subscription model and retention rates Options for generating additional income Success Stories and Testimonials Examples of individuals benefiting from LifeVantage products Personal weight loss and health improvements Stories of individuals transitioning to full-time involvement Contact and Information Sharing Encouragement to reach out for more information Approach to sharing information without pressure Potential financial benefits of sharing the products Queen bee next to worker bee. Both have the same DNA. Reach out to Bob Kane, guest expert about LifeVantage 412-860-9516
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Direct River Abstraction to Vertical Aquatic and Invites to Real Talk and Growth
07/05/2025
Direct River Abstraction to Vertical Aquatic and Invites to Real Talk and Growth
42 is with a call to action and some calls to meet. More from Mick & Sue. Protecting the Thames River near London A much-loved open water swimming spot near Teddington on the River Thames is at risk. Thames Water’s proposed Teddington Direct River Abstraction (TDRA) scheme plans to remove up to 75 million liters of river water daily during droughts, replacing it with treated sewage effluent pumped year-round from the Mogden Sewage Treatment Works. This spot is more than just a body of water. It’s a sanctuary for swimmers, paddlers, rowers, dogs, and entire communities. Thousands rely on it for physical health, mental wellbeing, and meaningful connection. Simon Griffiths’s call in Outdoor Swimmer made this call to stop that plan. Here’s how you can help: Deadline: August 26, 2025 ✅ Send an email to: TDRA@ipsos.com Use your own words, or adapt this message: I object to Thames Water’s TDRA scheme. Discharging treated sewage into a treasured recreational stretch of the Thames, year-round, is unacceptable. This river supports thousands of water users and wildlife. Sustainable solutions like fixing existing leakage—currently over 600 million liters per day—should come first. Please register my objection formally with the Planning Inspectorate. Let’s protect what matters. Share this episode. Take action today Mick & Sue Nelson, Colorado Springs, CO, USA, owners of Total Aquatic Programming, Check out the business meeting after the ASCA World Clinic and the Build-a-Pool event in early 2026 at AOAP event. From open water swimming alerts to business workshops, we've got you covered. Discover the threats facing a cherished stretch of the Thames and how you can help. Learn about the Aquatic Health Club model initiative and its impact on private and nonprofit sectors. Get insights into the upcoming coaches Aquatic Business Workshop and its benefits. Explore the importance of purpose-driven business in the aquatics industry. Find out about the All Things Aquatics event on September 20th and how it can be a fun networking event for your aquatic career. The series with Mick & Sue started on episode #37. Feel free to play prior interview parts.
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Know the ways are the winds are blowing: Saving grace on lessons, schools, a kayaker and AI
06/30/2025
Know the ways are the winds are blowing: Saving grace on lessons, schools, a kayaker and AI
Heavy Or Not #41 explores four critical topics. Concise discussion on pressing issues and innovative solutions. Exploring how NZ Drowning Prevention went into a floating frenzy. School closures and Equity Concerns raised in public comment by a parent with cutting perspective to Pittsburgh Public Schools. Canadian teen makes a heroic water rescue. She saves a kayaker in Georgian Bay, Ontario. AI Innovations: Real-Time Speech Translation and Accent Conversion in Google Meet and Krisp.
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Exploring Sustainable Pool Models: Balancing Subsidies and Private Sector Initiatives in Aquatics
06/23/2025
Exploring Sustainable Pool Models: Balancing Subsidies and Private Sector Initiatives in Aquatics
Heavy Or Not, The OG Swim Guide, #40. Innovative Pool and Team Management: Leveraging Private Sector and Community Partnerships Enhancing Aquatic Programs: Integrating Fitness and Health for Sustainable Pool Operations Insightful discussion with Swim OGs, Mick and Sue Nelson, as they delve into the challenges and solutions surrounding pool, team and aquatic management, planning and programming. Discover how innovative approaches can transform the future of swimming facilities. Explore the financial fears and sustainability issues of subsidized pool models. Learn about the role of private sector and entrepreneurial coaches in pool management. Understand the importance of bridging the gap between swim schools and high school programs. Discover strategies for effective use of underutilized pools across the country. Gain insights into drowning prevention and the broader impact on aquatic health and wellness. Don't forget to subscribe for more episodes and join the conversation! Introduction of Sue happened on #37. More artwork on the Substack pages. See . Total Aquatic Programming is at
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Experience the Adventure of Open Water Swimming with ISCA's Events + Stroke Counting
06/22/2025
Experience the Adventure of Open Water Swimming with ISCA's Events + Stroke Counting
Open water swimming insights from the International Swim Coaches Association's upcoming festivals. Discover why these events are more than just races and how they can enhance your swimming skills. Overview of the East Coast Open Water Festival and the new Jamestown Open Water Festival. Detailed race formats, including The Great Knockout and family-friendly options. Comprehensive safety measures and protocols in place for participants. Benefits of open water swimming, from endurance to mental resilience. Practical tips for transitioning from pool swimming to open water challenges. Join us as we explore the opportunities these festivals offer to swimmers of all ages and abilities. Plus, Andrew Sheaff, coach, author, consultant, shares some insights on a great tip that can be applied to everyone’s swimming.
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Swimming's Local Initiatives Must Drive Downing Prevention and Water Safety Awareness
06/16/2025
Swimming's Local Initiatives Must Drive Downing Prevention and Water Safety Awareness
#38 Navigating the Complexities of Drowning Prevention in a Changing Political Climate - part 2 with Sue and Mick Nelson The critical issues surrounding swimming, coaching and community recreation is water safety, and less so the making of gold-medal champions. The challenges faced by aquatic facilities today are on the rise. Closing pools. Indifferent politicians. Tighter budgets. Busy families. Covid too. Discover the trends, obstacles, and solutions in the world of swimming and drowning prevention. The impact of COVID-19 on drowning statistics and swimming lessons. Challenges in maintaining and operating commercial swimming pools. The shortage of qualified lifeguards and its implications. The role of local organizations versus national support in drowning prevention. The importance of educating communities and politicians about the value of aquatic facilities. Half of Americans don't know how to swim, yet they're the ones making decisions about our pools. It's time to educate our communities and politicians on the true value of water safety." - Sue Nelson Key concepts: Drowning prevention, data analysis, CDC, Consumer Product Safety Commission, trends, COVID impact, swimming pools, lifeguards, aquatic programming, local advocacy, ethnic disparities, pool closures, maintenance issues, swimming lessons, community education, USA Swimming, private sector, public sector, water safety, Mick Nelson, Sue Nelson, Mark Rauterkus, podcast, aquatics, governmental challenges. Notes of Merit Data Usage and Comparison Difference between data usage by Mick Nelson's organization and the CDC. Importance of current data for local advocacy and marketing. Trends identification and the limitations of data collection. Impact of Political and Economic Changes Effects of layoffs and budget cuts on data collection and analysis. The role of local organizations versus national support. The importance of local action plans in drowning prevention. Trends in Drowning and Water Safety The impact of COVID-19 on drowning statistics and swimming lessons. Increase in backyard pools and their safety concerns. Ethnic disparities in drowning rates, particularly among Hispanics. Swimming Pool Closures and Maintenance Issues Tracking of commercial pool closures and reasons behind them. Challenges in pool maintenance and the role of trained personnel. Financial constraints and their impact on pool operations. Lifeguard Shortages and Training Difficulty in recruiting lifeguards and the reasons behind it. The need for qualified lifeguards due to increased recreational facilities. The impact of work ethics and financial incentives on lifeguard availability. Community Education and Political Influence The lack of swimming skills among Americans and its implications. The role of community and political education in valuing aquatic facilities. Misconceptions about the financial operations of swimming pools. Future Discussions and Podcast Continuation Introduction to upcoming topics in the next podcast episode. The need for increased swimming education and awareness. The role of the private sector in addressing aquatic needs. Learn more Link to the business of Sue and Mick Nelson, Total Aquatic Programming,
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