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The Rock: Jared Leto Ripped In Half
02/03/2023
The Rock: Jared Leto Ripped In Half
NSFW Smack My Pitch Up 93 - The Rock: Jared Leto Ripped In Half Hobbit and Thandi are finally back! They head to Alcatraz Island to remake and reimagine the 1996 Michael Bay action extravaganza, The Rock Subscribe to Smack My Pitch UP! Check out tons of merch for the GUI Network on TeePublic: GUI Network Hotline: (804) 505-4GUI (4484) (Message & data rates may apply) _________________________________________________ ● Track Info ● "In A World" "Assasins" and "Bustin Loose" by Jason Shaw () These works are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License. "Steve Combs Through" Theme by Steve Combs Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) for sponsorship inquiries Transcript: SMPU - THE ROCK [00:00:00] Hobbit: [00:01:00] Hello geeks and welcome to a long overdue episode of Smack My Pitch Up, the show that reboots, remakes, reimagine sequels, sidequels and adapts some of your favorite and least favorite properties from film, television, and what have you. And Thandi we're back. Thandi: We're Beck, Winick. Hobbit: Yay. Thandi: Ha ha. Hobbit: Thank you so much to our longtime listeners for being patient with us. There's been a lot of moving and shaken going on over at the network And also figuring out how to get all the stuff we're doing to fit and so we can be more consistent with our releases. And so for this episode, this is a slight tweak on our previous format That's gonna make this a much tighter show Which allows us to record more consistently. So hopefully moving forward, we're gonna have like weekly releases for you of this Thandi: that's a good. Hobbit: It is a great thing. So This show previously was around an hour or two, an hour 15. We are shortening that by one of us each week doing a real take on the remake [00:02:00] And one of us doing the remix, weirdo outside the box, take on it. So we're just, instead of four versions of the same movie, we're taking it down to two. So it's a lot more manageable, I think, honestly, it's gonna be a more fun show to have it a little bit tighter like that. Thandi: Yeah, because everybody likes it Hobbit: tight. Yeah. And speaking of tight We are going into a tight action Comedy. I mean Thandi: Yeah, but only an action comedy in the vein of the idea that all nineties movies fall into this genre. Hobbit: when Sean Connery goes was it, losers? Think about Thandi: go home and to fuck the prom queen or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sean Connery is just rubbing his balls all over this movie, just spreading his musk Hobbit: No fucks given whatsoever. He's not doing a bad job, it's just that he's clearly not taking this seriously. Thandi: No, he has exactly the right tone for what that movie is. I would say that As [00:03:00] an understated for him character, it's Nick Cage that could bring it up a notch and he's still perfect. The movie for what it is, for the time in which it came out and what it does in cinema, is pretty much perfect. But yeah, the Nick Cage we know is really understated in the rock. Hobbit: Definitely and that is the movie. About this week, the Rock, the Michael Bay, 1996, I wanna say film who by the way, pitch smacked on Twitter and Facebook. If you want to interact with us on the social medias tell us what we're doing wrong or how you like the new format or what we're doing right. I would like that as well. Thandi: Or not you like the silky sound of our voices. Hobbit: Dulcet tones, Thandi: Our dulcet tones sweet caramel Hobbit: Oozing all over Nicholas Cage. Usually the rock. It is a pure example of what Michael Bay is good at, which is just making really dumb, [00:04:00] really straightforward, blow 'em up action adventure movies. Thandi: Ridiculous nonsense, spectacle. You know, the, the Rock is even though it's an early Michael Bay movie, it's super indicative of his style, which is like quick cuts and like no sense of spatial geography, shit's all over the place. It could be taking place on the ceiling or like, I don't know, in Hong Kong and then California and then New York. It could be anywhere, but you don't care because it's about the energy of the scene. Hobbit: and there's plenty of energy in this while since I've seen The Rock. It surprised me how many very well known actors have like very brief roles in this You've got the Candy Mane himself, Tony Todd that's in like two scenes, Thandi: Yeah. He is one of the, the Marine guys, one of the military. Hobbit: and he is got just one real scene that he has where he is like talking about how we're not, this isn't a threat. We will do this. We will blow up a bunch of people, and that's his main moment in the. Fucking [00:05:00] Candyman gets maybe 45 seconds of screen time in this movie. Thandi: Yep. At random Bokeem Woodbine Hobbit: right. I didn't even realize he was in this movie until about three quarters of the way through watching it, and then he just pops up randomly. You've got, of course, there's Michael Bean dying almost immediately as, as he's wants to Thandi: Yeah. As soon as they do the incursion, boom, gone David Morse, who I actually knew David Morse from St. Elsewhere, cuz that's how old I am. David Morse is just, yeah, just in that piece. Hobbit: And he has a little bit more time on screen, but not still, not much. I mean, he's not doing a ton. John Spencer as a director of Womack. Is a relatively well-known actor as well and he may have been in there for a day because most of his role was just looking at a screen and going, no Thandi: Yeah. William Forsyth. Hobbit: William Forsyth. Yeah. Yeah. Thandi: Yeah. There, there's a lot of big names, but like for the John c McGinley. Hobbit: that's, he was in like two seconds of it as like the [00:06:00] weird gadget guy, which becomes a trope in a lot of other Michael Bay movies is the guy that makes. Contraptions and shit, but he does one and it doesn't even really pay off Thandi: Yeah. Hobbit: He like Thandi: But he's in there, Hobbit: yeah. Thandi: just, just nineties guys. It's, it's these actors that we're all like, oh, I, I know this guy so well. It's because it's 30 years later and yeah. They've had long and storied careers at this point. Hobbit: As much as this is pretty straight ahead, there's no. Surprises really in this movie, it's still an enjoyable ride. You've got the cheesy one-liners throughout you've got big blow 'em up action, shoot 'em up sequences. Going through the sewers and stuff of Alcatraz, I didn't realize that Alcatraz was built on a underground mining roller coaster. But I didn't like I'll Thandi: fun nineties movie without a fun underground nineties Hobbit: rollercoaster Okay, well this could be mashed up with Temple of Doom if tracks were long enough. You know, what the [00:07:00] fuck? I forgot about that completely. And then that started happening. What were they making the prisoners do on Alcatraz? There's caverns, there's Thandi: why are there random spinning blades of doom? Because there are, Hobbit: I can just imagine Alcatraz when it was working that there's people in the mines of Alcatraz. Thandi: see, I think maybe it was just an amusement park. That's how they were paying for the prison. They had an amusement park that went underneath the prison. Hobbit: The most terrifying amusement park you can think of. Come on, get on the ride. Little kid Thandi: You took a wrong turn to coaster and now you're getting molested. Hobbit: This ride's called the Birdman of Alcatraz, where we just launch you via slingshot into the ocean. Yeah. There, there's so much nonsense. But the thing is like, you're not supposed to care. Like you, you're, Thandi: No you're not. Not for Eddie. Michael Bay Hobbit: No, you cannot examine a Michael Bay movie with any level of seriousness because it'll just completely fall apart if you do. Physics don't really matter. Yeah, like you said, directions don't matter. You, you would not be able [00:08:00] to map out Alcatraz by this movie by any Thandi: Yeah, because Michael Bay is selling a feeling. He's not selling a narrative. He's selling a feeling. He wants you to feel the energy of the scenes that he's strung together, seemingly haphazardly, and he's successful at that. Hobbit: The one thing that is different in this movie Ver versus a lot of his other films, is there's like this low, sometimes not so low key like hyper nationalism that really peppers in through a lot of his films. And in this film, it's highly critical of the American government. Thandi: how they've abandoned their soldiers. Hobbit: Yeah, and it's on all ends. You've got the I imprisoned without a trial. British spy. You've got the soldiers that are fighting for, you know, for basically benefits for the fallen soldiers. Nobody thinks the government's doing a good job. And then you've got, you know, the, the director Womack, that is a piece of shit, clearly and everybody knows he is a piece of shit like. Nicholas Cage, who is a straight laced by the rule book guy, by the end of it is just [00:09:00] like, I don't know, like fuck this guy. He was vaporized just totally down to lie to the government by the end of it. Thandi: y you know, Nick or Michael Bay's real thing is just he, he is, his main interest is the guys who do the work. So generally just it's, it's not the guys in the chair, it's the guys who do the work. And that's his love of soldiers too. Those are the guys out in the field who do the work. So he feels that they deserve the respect. And that's, that's true through all his movies. It's the guys who actually are out in the field getting their hands dirty. That's who Michael Bay celebrates. Hobbit: And that's definitely the case in this movie. I guess we're about ready to like dive in. I drew the straw of the real take for this version of the Rock. So I'm Thandi: Real take. Hobbit: the real take real take being what we think might actually work. For a remake or reimagining of the rock. And for this, because it's so straight ahead, there's a lot of d different directions you can take this, [00:10:00] but I thought it being a fun action movie. I wanted to kind of continue in that spirit, but maybe add a little bit more social commentary or subtext underneath that classic action like vibe. Is this conversation about the government and how people react to a crooked government. There are people that fight it like straight up 60 style or, you know, being held without parole and like, you know, trying to fight the system by exposing their secrets kind of thing, which is Sean Connery's character. Then you've got the hyper militarized you know, mercenaries that take over Alcatraz that are gonna do it by any means necessary. But then you see the infighting on what level they're willing to take it within those mercenaries. You've got Nicholas Cage who ends up being kind of like the soldier that turns to help the common man by the end of it. There's, there's a lot of different ways people deal with the, the crookedness of the government in this, in this film. And I thought putting a modern lens on it by having those soldiers come [00:11:00] imitating what we've seen in real life with the right wingers that took over the. Was it Yellowstone Park or what was the park system that they took over back Oh, the the cattle The cattle guys having a little bit of that as the aspect, so it's not just about soldiers. I think focusing on like va something that a lot of people have more experience with that the veterans affairs in this country are miserable. The soldiers that have have not lost their life, lost limb, or their health, their, their mental. That aren't getting the support that they need. So having maybe a collection of soldiers that are retired that are dealing with VA stuff and being like, this is, this isn't, you know, cool. And following that same kind of path that Ed Harris's character did Francis Hummel in the, in the original, but it being more about taking care of the soldiers that are still around, you know, it's be, it's them and their friends that are, you know, missing limbs and then you can have. A little bit more [00:12:00] empathy for these soldiers. As you see, they're all old guys that some of them might have a prosthetic leg or, you know, that these, these are like former soldiers that have been beaten and hurt that are just trying to get what they're due. And so there's. They're the bad guy, quote unquote, but not really, you know? And I really wanted to embolden that in the story a little bit more. It wasn't really pushed on too much. Ed Harris ended up being the only good soldier guy at the end because he wasn't willing to kill 70,000 people. , like that was his line. I thought it'd be a, I think a more complicated win in this movie if this soldiers like you, kind of were rooting for them. They're going about things the wrong way for sure. In this case, it's not gonna be like a rocket full of vaporized, you know aerosol. Thandi: kill gas or. Hobbit: yeah, I think something more simple of just like having an arsenal within range of a major city is enough. You don't have to make it [00:13:00] super sci-fi fancy stuff. Just, Thandi: But nineties Hobbit: the nineties, right? Alcatraz. It's called the Rock. You have to have it take place on Alcatraz. That's. But I did want to have that conversation about, you know, when crooked people earlier in charge, they even the most righteous of people, end up be at odds with each other instead of the real enemy because you know of who's calling the shots. And that being the tragic underpinning of this story is that everybody's trying to do the right thing, and because they're trying to do the right thing, they end up fighting against each other instead of the person that's really pulling strings. So then the conclusion of getting the microfilm the micro fiche and that being leaked to the press at the end, you know, that's one thing that they didn't want Mason or Connery's character out for. They didn't want him out because they didn't want these secrets. Stanley Nicholas Cage's character helps get that information out. You know, it ends up like at the [00:14:00] same, at the end of the first Black Panther where it's not the version that kil monger wanted of domination. But there is, now Wakanda is now part of the world. There is some truth to what, the bad guy was fighting for veteran affairs gets some of its money. You know, the, the, like, some of it goes through. and and Thandi: then everybody gets to know who actually killed J.F.K. Hobbit: The bad guys kind of win, but not really, you know, it, it's a, it's just a bittersweet conversation about figuring out that sometimes the enemy isn't your enemy. I, I would love that to be kinda the undertone, but that not being, I mean, it, it's still at the end of the day, a fucking action movie. And and you want big blow ups and you want, you know, everybody knows kung Fu. And everybody shoots guns really good. And I think for this, I really needed to get David Leach in there for it. It seemed like a no-brainer brainer. He was one of the directors of the first John Wick. He went on to do Atomic Blonde, Deadpool [00:15:00] two, Hobbs and Shaw and Bullet Train most recently. He has that right balance of being able to do great action sequences, but also having time for the characters. Do some yuck yucks in between and have character development and dialogue. So I thought that that was a really good fit for a remake of The Rock was to Thandi: I, I think that would work very well actually. Having seen bullet train recently, I think that's a that's a fun tone to play with in the modern time in general. Hobbit: absolutely. And when Bullet Train very much feels like almost a sendup of nineties action to a degree, it has that like silly. Action kind of vibe to it. So if, if that was applied to a remake of the Rock, I think in a modern take, I think it would fit really, really well. And then you get to play with all the people that David Leach has played with in the past that reappear and du cameos and stuff. So we've got like General Francis Hummel Ed Harris' character. I thought Idris Elba would be [00:16:00] incredible in that role. He was, he was. Thandi: we're canceling the Hobbit: apocalypse. Yes, the black Superman of Hobbs and Shaw coming out and being just like a, a wounded warrior, a a hardened soldier that wants what's due to him and his brothers just makes I wanna see that. I think that would be, and he would probably play it completely straight, like no winks of the camera, overdoing it, which would make all the zaniness around him that much more fun. He is the moral of the story character, you know, so, so him playing it straight, that gives that underpinning some weight while still everybody else is able to yak. Can he smack do around him? Thandi: Oh, definitely. And most importantly, as Hummel, he has gravity. Hobbit: Yeah, Thandi: So if you're doing a serious Hummel, Idris Elba has gravity, Hobbit: and I think, yeah, if we can get him to say, cancel the apocalypse at some point like that, that would be gr I'd be super down for that. I'm wondering how often that gets asked on set of something and it was like, you know, we are not for filming, but just for us, can you just say canceling the [00:17:00] apocalypse? He was Thandi: your pocalypse, Hobbit: like, okay, cool. For wire season three, you know, what's, what's happening 20 years later, let's cancel the apocalypse. Thandi: but, but can you do it in like your British accent? Not the wire accent, but like your British one. Just break into it. Hobbit: Yeah. The joys of fame is that everybody has that one line that people want them to say. So yeah, we've got Edris Alba as Francis hum. The FBI director Womack. I thought it would be fun. She is in Hobbs and Shaw, but is also she has that she could play like hard line in power person. Really. Well get Helen Miron to come in and play, play Womack. I mean, I don't feel like I even need to explain that she, I mean I had to actually double check and make sure she did a proper American accent before, cuz I Thandi: does she? Has she done a proper American accent in something? Hobbit: actually in the, the Yellowstone series or the, the prequel series that they have out with like a, a like old, like Dutch, Midwestern kind of accent. But [00:18:00] she's also been in a couple other roles within American accent and Sounds American. Sounds fine. So I just, I, I couldn't see the FBI director having a British accent. I felt like that was maybe a bridge too far. Thandi: Well, they're actors. They're, they're prof, they're professional actors. British actors are trained to take on those voices so they can really do just about anything. Hobbit: and British actors classically are pretty good at doing the American accent, so I wasn't that worried, but I just, I couldn't remember her having to do an American accent before, so I just had to check. But yeah, no, she's, she's fine. She's good with that. Then we've got Stanley good speed. I went through a couple. Choices for this one because it's Nicholas fucking cage. Like there is no way they can do Nicholas Cage. So didn't want somebody to do a version of him, but I wanted to do proper justice to the character who, he's a lab geek that gets put out in the world to like, on, on, to deal with this situation. So he is awkward. He doesn't come off as a badass at all. He's kind of [00:19:00] gawky. But I also needed an actor that would be able to do some of the action sequence stuff while still seeming gawky. And I thought that Andrew Garfield would be really fun in that role as the really nerdy lab guy that really...
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