The Wholesome Fertility Podcast | Trying to Conceive, Egg Quality & Fertility Support
The Wholesome Fertility Podcast is your trusted resource for empowering insights on the path to parenthood. Hosted by fertility acupuncturist and author Michelle Oravitz, this show blends modern science, holistic medicine, and ancient wisdom to help women optimize their fertility and reproductive health. Each week, Michelle shares solo episodes and interviews with leading fertility experts from around the world. From improving egg quality and balancing hormones to navigating IVF, PCOS, and endometriosis, you’ll gain practical tools, research-backed strategies, and mind-body approaches to support your journey. Episodes explore topics like menstrual cycle optimization, Chinese medicine, functional medicine, naturopathic care, nutrition, meditation, and spirituality - offering multiple perspectives to help you reclaim your fertility and overall wellness. If you’re ready to feel informed, supported, and inspired on your fertility journey, The Wholesome Fertility Podcast will give you the guidance you need to move forward with clarity and confidence.
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Ep 367 5 Ways Science Proves You’re More Powerful Than You Think
12/16/2025
Ep 367 5 Ways Science Proves You’re More Powerful Than You Think
What if the most powerful tool for boosting fertility has been inside you all along? In this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, Michelle reveals five science backed truths that prove your thoughts, emotions, nervous system, and energy hold far more influence over your fertility than you may realize. Drawing from research in psychoneuroimmunology, HeartMath studies, quantum biology, and epigenetics, Michelle explains how your mind and body work together to shape hormonal balance, ovulation, and overall reproductive health. You will learn why your inner dialogue affects your cells, how stress disrupts the HPO axis, why a regulated nervous system improves conception rates, and how intention can shift your biology at the energetic level. If you have been feeling discouraged or disconnected from your body, this episode will help you reconnect to your innate wisdom and remind you that your fertility is not just physical. It is influenced by your emotional wellbeing, your beliefs, and the energy you bring to your healing journey. Tune in and discover how powerful you truly are. Key Takeaways: Your thoughts create real, measurable physical change in the body Emotions communicate with every cell and shape your hormonal landscape The nervous system is the master conductor of reproductive health Your energy and intention influence biological responses You are capable of rewriting your genetic and emotional patterns ________________________ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 366 The Parasite Conversation No One’s Having (But Should Be)
12/09/2025
Ep 366 The Parasite Conversation No One’s Having (But Should Be)
In this eye-opening episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, Michelle sits down with Kim Rogers (), also known as “The Worm Queen,” to have the parasite conversation no one’s having but absolutely should. A seasoned Western medicine professional turned holistic wellness educator, Kim shares her journey from battling endometriosis, mold toxicity, and Lyme disease to founding RogersHood Apothecary and developing the viral ParaFy Parasite Cleanse Kit. Together, Michelle and Kim dive into the hidden world of parasites, mold, and heavy metals, and how these often-overlooked culprits could be affecting your digestion, mood, skin, and even fertility. You’ll learn how exposure happens, why binders and biofilm-busting herbs are key, and when cleansing is safe and beneficial, especially if you’re trying to conceive or preparing for IVF. If you’ve ever felt unwell despite “normal” labs, this episode will change how you see your body’s internal ecosystem and empower you to take charge of your health from the inside out. Key Takeaways: Discover how hidden parasites and toxins could be silently impacting your fertility, mood, and digestion. Learn why “cleaning your soil” may be the missing piece in your preconception or IVF journey. Find out the surprising everyday sources of parasites, from pets to produce, and how to protect yourself. Understand why binders and biofilm-busting herbs are essential for safe and effective detoxing. Hear how Kim’s viral ParaFy cleanse is helping thousands reclaim their energy, clarity, and overall wellness. Guest Bio: Kim Rogers () is a seasoned wellness professional with over 20 years of experience in Western medicine. After facing her own health challenges including endometriosis, parasites, Lyme disease, and mold poisoning, Kim transitioned from pharmaceuticals to natural healing. She co-founded RogersHood Apothecary in 2021, where she now serves as CEO and creator of the globally recognized ParaFy Parasite Cleanse Kit. Her viral success on TikTok and Instagram brought global attention to parasite cleansing and holistic detoxification. Through transparency and education, Kim continues to inspire millions to take control of their health and become their own advocates. She also hosts the podcast What’s Eating U?!, where she explores the intersections of wellness, environmental toxins, and personal empowerment. Use coupon code FERTILITY for 10% off at Links and resources: Visit Kim’s website: Follow Kim on Instagram: Connect with Kim on Facebook: Watch Kim’s podcast What’s Eating U?! on YouTube: _____________________________ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 365 Meditation with a Mission: How Self-Hypnosis Can Reprogram Your Life
12/02/2025
Ep 365 Meditation with a Mission: How Self-Hypnosis Can Reprogram Your Life
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Rita Black (), a clinical hypnotherapist and weight management expert, to explore how self hypnosis can transform your habits, health, and overall mindset. Rita shares her personal journey of quitting smoking and breaking free from emotional eating through hypnosis and how she has helped thousands do the same. We dive into the science behind the subconscious mind, the difference between hypnosis and meditation, and how identity shapes your habits, beliefs, and even your physical health. Whether you are trying to change a behavior, reprogram limiting beliefs, or shift your mindset around fertility and well being, this episode will show you how to harness your mind’s power to create lasting change. Key Takeaways: How hypnosis works to bypass the conscious mind and rewire habits at the subconscious level. The difference between meditation and self hypnosis and why the latter is “meditation with a mission.” Why identity is the foundation of transformation and how it shapes behavior and physiology. How subconscious beliefs can affect fertility, weight, and other health outcomes. Simple daily self hypnosis and gratitude techniques to prime your brain for positive change. Why quitting smoking or vaping is less about willpower and more about identity and subconscious programming. Guest Bio: Rita Black, . (), is a clinical hypnotherapist and renowned expert in smoking cessation and weight loss. She is the author of the best-selling From Fat to Thin Thinking: Unlock Your Mind for Permanent Weight Loss and the host of the Thin Thinking podcast. Through her signature online programs, Shift Weight Mastery Process and Smokefree123, Rita has guided thousands to harness the power of their subconscious mind to create lasting, healthy transformations. She also offers two free resources to help you begin your own transformation journey: Free Weight Loss Masterclass: How to Stop the “Start Over Tomorrow” Weight Struggle Cycle and Start Releasing Weight for Good - a 75-minute session that includes a light hypnosis experience to help you identify and remove subconscious barriers to weight loss. - https://shiftmonthlymasterymembership.mykajabi.com/shiftevergreenwebinar Free Smoking Cessation Masterclass: How to Stop Smoking Without Withdrawal, Cravings, or Weight Gain — a practical, empowering approach to quitting for good. - - https://www.smokefree123.com/stop-smoking-masterclass-registration-page2 Links and resources: YOU, the Non-Smoker? Yes, it's Possible - _____________________________ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 364 Misconceptions I See Daily as a Fertility Acupuncturist
11/25/2025
Ep 364 Misconceptions I See Daily as a Fertility Acupuncturist
In this solo episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, Michelle Oravitz, fertility acupuncturist and holistic fertility coach, breaks down the most common misconceptions she encounters in her clinic. Drawing on nearly a decade of experience supporting couples on their fertility journey, Michelle sheds light on the myths that can hold people back from conceiving, from misunderstanding the fertile window and fearing healthy fats, to overdoing green juices and neglecting stress management. You’ll learn why fertility is about more than just timing or diet, how mindset and nervous system health play a pivotal role, and why it’s essential to approach conception as a shared journey between partners. Whether you’re just beginning your fertility path or seeking to fine-tune your approach, this episode will empower you with knowledge and clarity to support your reproductive health naturally. Key Takeaways: Many women miscalculate ovulation and the fertile window, it’s not always mid-cycle. Healthy fats like avocado, ghee, and full-fat dairy support hormone production. Too much raw food and cold drinks can create a “cold womb,” affecting fertility. Over-focusing on “doing all the right things” can increase stress and hinder conception Fertility is a shared responsibility, sperm health is just as crucial as egg health. Seeking professional and emotional support can make the journey smoother and less isolating. Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: Join me inside The Wholesome Fertility Collective: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 363 Healing Through Mind and Body with Lauren Enright
11/18/2025
Ep 363 Healing Through Mind and Body with Lauren Enright
What if your fertility journey didn’t have to feel like constant striving? What if ease, joy, and trust could actually create the space for conception to unfold naturally? In this episode, Lauren Enright, a mind-body fertility coach, birth doula, and former neuroscientist, shares how to move from overthinking and perfectionism to deep embodied trust. She explains how nervous system regulation, breathwork, and mindfulness practices can awaken your body’s innate fertile energy and transform how you experience your path to motherhood. Key Takeaways: Why perfectionism and overplanning can block your natural fertile flow. How regulating the nervous system helps balance the yin and yang of fertility. The simple breathwork technique Lauren uses to activate the parasympathetic response. The science behind visualization and how it reprograms the mind for healing. How mindfulness and slowing down reconnect you to your body’s innate wisdom. Guest Bio: Lauren Enright is an internationally sought-after mind-body fertility coach, birth doula, and expert in fertility yoga, meditation, and mindfulness. With a unique background as a former neuroscientist and science teacher, Lauren blends evidence-based understanding with spiritual insight to help women release perfectionism and overthinking on their fertility journey. Through her signature mind-body approach, she guides women to reconnect with their body’s innate wisdom, regulate their nervous systems, and awaken the fertile energy within. Her mission is to empower women to trust their intuition, break free from stress cycles, and welcome conception with ease, joy, and love. Links and Resources Mentioned: Free Mind-Body Fertility Toolkit – ______________________ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 362 Could Your Uterine Lining Be Blocking Pregnancy?
11/11/2025
Ep 362 Could Your Uterine Lining Be Blocking Pregnancy?
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, Michelle dives into one of the most emotionally challenging topics on the fertility journey, repeated miscarriages and failed embryo transfers. While these experiences can feel devastating, Michelle explains that they’re not always inevitable. With the right testing and deeper understanding of hidden factors like thyroid health, uterine microbiome, immune responses, and even sperm compatibility, many pregnancy losses and failed transfers can actually be prevented. This episode sheds light on overlooked tests, lifestyle changes, and integrative approaches that can make all the difference in achieving a healthy pregnancy. If you’ve been through multiple losses or are preparing for a transfer, this conversation is filled with empowering insights and practical next steps that could change your path forward. Key Takeaways: Discover why thyroid imbalances and undiagnosed autoimmune issues can silently sabotage implantation. Learn how the uterine microbiome and inflammation might be the missing piece in your fertility journey. Find out which antioxidant-rich supplements and lifestyle shifts can boost egg and sperm quality. Understand how immune or clotting factors can interfere with pregnancy — and what tests can uncover them. Explore how emotional healing and nervous system regulation can prepare your body to receive new life. Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Join me inside The Wholesome Fertility Collective. Vaginal Microbiome test: Use coupon code WHOLESOMEFERTILITY Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 361 The Only Fasting Protocol I Trust for People Trying to Conceive
11/04/2025
Ep 361 The Only Fasting Protocol I Trust for People Trying to Conceive
In this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, Michelle Oravitz, shares the only fasting approach she recommends for those trying to conceive, and why most intermittent fasting methods can actually harm fertility. Drawing from both modern research and Ayurvedic principles, Michelle explains how to sync your eating habits with your body’s natural circadian rhythm to support balanced hormones, stable blood sugar, and optimal digestion. She breaks down how to determine if fasting is right for you (hint: it depends on insulin resistance and PCOS type), the best time of day to eat your biggest meal, and how the ProLon fasting-mimicking diet can help restore metabolic balance without depleting your energy or fertility. If you’ve ever wondered whether fasting could fit into your fertility journey, this episode offers a grounded, fertility-safe way to approach it. Key Takeaways: Not all fasting methods are fertility-friendly, skipping breakfast can increase stress hormones and harm reproductive balance. Those with insulin resistance or insulin-resistant PCOS may benefit from specific, gentle fasting approaches. Your largest meal should align with your body’s strongest digestion period (midday, when the sun is highest). Finishing dinner 2–4 hours before bed supports better sleep, hormone repair, and digestive rest. ProLon’s fasting-mimicking protocol can enhance insulin sensitivity and reduce stubborn weight safely. Always test, not guess, consult your healthcare provider before starting any fasting or supplement plan. Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Use this code and get a discount on PROLON: Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 360 BBT Burnout? A Simpler Way to Know If You Actually Ovulated
10/28/2025
Ep 360 BBT Burnout? A Simpler Way to Know If You Actually Ovulated
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Rose McKenzie, fertility awareness educator and clinician trainer at Mira, to explore a simpler, smarter way to track your cycle, without the stress of daily temperature checks. We dive into how continuous hormone monitoring can reveal what’s really happening in your body each month, why a single lab test can miss crucial shifts in your hormones, and how lifestyle factors like sleep, stress, and nutrition affect ovulation. Rose breaks down the science behind Mira’s lab-grade hormone tracking technology and shares how it’s helping women and practitioners move beyond guesswork to truly understand their cycles. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by charting, or you’re ready to move past “BBT burnout,” this conversation will help you see your hormones in a whole new way. Key Takeaways: Tired of charting every morning? Discover a stress-free way to confirm ovulation. Learn why LH strips only tell part of the story, and what you’re really missing. See how Mira’s lab-grade tech brings clarity to hormone tracking from home. Find out how stress, sleep, and nutrition can delay or disrupt ovulation. Learn why continuous data gives a clearer picture than one-time lab tests. Understand how your insulin sensitivity shifts across your cycle (and how that affects cravings). Get empowered to interpret your hormone data and take control of your fertility journey. Sponsored by MIRA; opinions are our own. Guest Bio: As the Clinical Manager at Mira, Rose assists healthcare professionals and providers to successfully use Mira with their patients. Through webinars, case reports, and one-on-one assistance she educates providers to effectively and confidently implement hormone monitoring in their practices. With over 10 years of experience as a natural family planning instructor trained in the Marquette Method and Sympto-Thermal Method, Rose has extensive experience assisting women using the Mira monitor for hormone monitoring and health promotion including women tracking their hormones in regular cycles, irregular cycles, postpartum amenorrhea, chemo-induced menopause, and perimenopause. Learn more about Mira and follow their socials: Study link that we spoke about: Get 20% off of any MIRA products by using this link: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Join me inside The Wholesome Fertility Collective: Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 359 The 5-Day Fertile Window Explained (And Why Hollywood Gets It Wrong)
10/21/2025
Ep 359 The 5-Day Fertile Window Explained (And Why Hollywood Gets It Wrong)
In this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, host Michelle Oravitz breaks down one of the most common fertility myths, the belief that pregnancy can only occur on the exact day of ovulation. Popular culture and even many fertility apps often portray conception as a single-day event, but science tells a different story. The truth is, sperm can survive in the reproductive tract for up to five days, creating a much wider fertile window than most people realize. Michelle explains what the 5-day fertile window really means, why the “Day 14 ovulation” rule is misleading, and how women can better understand their unique cycles. She also shares practical guidance on tracking ovulation accurately using basal body temperature (BBT) charting, cervical mucus observation, LH strips, and hormone-monitoring devices. Key Takeaways: How cervical mucus supports sperm survival and why hydration is essential. The impact of irregular cycles caused by thyroid health, PCOS, stress, or travel. Why fertility apps often fail to predict ovulation accurately. The best timing and frequency of intercourse to increase the chances of conception How intercourse during the luteal phase may help prime the immune system to receive an em Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. MIRA at home hormone testing: Use coupon code: WHOLESOMEFERTILITY FOR 15% OFF! Tempdrop Fertility Monitor – discounted link: Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 358 Bed Rest or Movement After Transfer? Surprising IVF Insights
10/14/2025
Ep 358 Bed Rest or Movement After Transfer? Surprising IVF Insights
Should you really stay in bed after an embryo transfer? For years, many fertility clinics recommended 24–48 hours of strict bed rest, but research now reveals surprising insights: movement may actually support better outcomes. In this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I explore what the latest studies say about bed rest versus gentle movement after transfer. I also share holistic, evidence-based practices from both Western research and Traditional Chinese Medicine that can help create the most supportive environment for implantation. You’ll learn about the role of acupuncture before and after transfer, nourishing foods and supplements that enhance blood flow and uterine receptivity, and mind-body practices, from meditation to laughter therapy, that ease stress and boost outcomes. Whether you’re preparing for an IVF cycle or supporting someone on this journey, this episode is packed with practical, compassionate guidance to empower you with knowledge and ease during this important stage. Key Takeaways: Extended bed rest after embryo transfer may not improve success rates and could reduce them. Gentle movement supports circulation and aligns with TCM principles for reducing stagnation. Acupuncture before and after transfer can significantly enhance implantation success. Warm, nourishing foods like bone broth and circulation-supporting foods like beets are beneficial. Supplements such as CoQ10, vitamin E, omega-3s, and L-arginine may support uterine health (always consult your clinic). Stress management, meditation, time off work, and even laughter therapy can positively impact outcomes. Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Join The Wholesome Fertility Collective here - To get 20% off of MIRA products, click here: Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook:
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Ep 357 5 Surprising Fertility Secrets That Could Change Everything!
10/07/2025
Ep 357 5 Surprising Fertility Secrets That Could Change Everything!
In this solo episode, I’m sharing five surprising fertility secrets that most people don’t know, but should! These insights may completely shift how you view your reproductive health and help you uncover areas that could be holding you back. From the surprising link between gum health and fertility, to the fact that you can bleed monthly without actually ovulating, to how seasons, light exposure, and immune balance all play a powerful role in conception, this episode is packed with practical tools and eye-opening science. Whether you’re actively trying to conceive, planning ahead, or simply curious about the deeper connections between your body and fertility, these insights will empower you to take charge of your journey. Key Takeaways: Gum and dental health directly impact sperm quality, egg health, and time to conception. You can have a regular period without actually ovulating, here’s how to truly confirm ovulation. Fertility can vary with the seasons, with research showing higher conception rates in autumn and winter. Light exposure and circadian rhythm play a major role in hormone balance and reproductive health. Immune balance is critical for implantation, too much or too little activity can block pregnancy. Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Fertilysis Uterine Microbiome Test: Use coupon code:for a discount. MIRA at home hormone testing: Use coupon code: WHOLESOMEFERTILITY FOR 15% OFF! Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook: Disclaimer: Some of the links shared are affiliates but this is at no cost to you and can even get you discounted prices!
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Ep 356 Acupuncture, Beets, and Blood Flow: Surprising Ways to Boost Fertility
09/30/2025
Ep 356 Acupuncture, Beets, and Blood Flow: Surprising Ways to Boost Fertility
In this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m diving into a topic that often doesn’t get enough attention when it comes to fertility, blood flow and microcirculation. From my perspective as a fertility acupuncturist and through the lens of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), blood is so much more than oxygen delivery, it’s the vital carrier of nutrients, energy, and life force. I’ll share why healthy circulation to the uterus and ovaries is essential for egg quality and implantation, and how poor blood flow can affect fertility outcomes. More importantly, I’ll give you natural tools you can start using today, like acupuncture, abdominal massage, stress reduction, and foods such as beets and pomegranates, that can help support optimal blood flow. This conversation is all about reconnecting with your body, learning the signals it’s giving you, and using holistic, practical ways to create the best possible environment for conception. Key Takeaways: Adequate blood flow to the uterus and ovaries is essential for egg quality and implantation. Stress and “liver qi stagnation” can constrict circulation, but acupuncture helps restore balance. Foods like beets, pomegranate juice, and omega-3s naturally increase nitric oxide and improve blood vessel health. Simple lifestyle shifts like yoga, breathwork, and warm nourishing meals can enhance circulation and fertility. Abdominal massage and castor oil packs are powerful, low-cost tools to support reproductive health. Ready to discover what your body needs most on your fertility journey? Take the personalized quiz inside The Wholesome Fertility Journey and get tailored resources to meet you exactly where you are: For more about my work and offerings, visit: Curious about ancient wisdom for fertility? Grab my book The Way of Fertility: Join the Wholesome Fertility Facebook Group for free resources & community support: Connect with me on social: Instagram: Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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EP 355 The Truth About ‘Ozempic Pregnancies’ No One’s Talking About
09/23/2025
EP 355 The Truth About ‘Ozempic Pregnancies’ No One’s Talking About
In today’s episode, I dive into the rising phenomenon of so-called “Ozempic pregnancies” and uncover what’s really happening behind the headlines. GLP-1 receptor agonists like Ozempic and Wegovy were originally developed for type 2 diabetes, but are now being used by many women with PCOS, insulin resistance, or weight challenges to support fertility. I’ll break down how these medications work, why they may help some women conceive, and the important risks and limitations you need to know. From a Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) perspective, we’ll explore why simply taking a drug isn’t enough to address the root cause, and how digestive health, spleen qi, and lifestyle habits hold the key to lasting fertility and hormone balance. I’ll also share practical strategies you can start today, like mindful eating, warming your digestive fire, and syncing with your circadian rhythm, that can naturally support your fertility journey. Key Takeaways: GLP-1 medications like Ozempic can temporarily improve insulin sensitivity but don’t resolve the root causes of infertility. Insulin resistance impacts ovulation, egg quality, and hormone balance, especially in women with PCOS. TCM approaches fertility by strengthening the digestive system and restoring balance, rather than suppressing symptoms. Mindful eating, warm digestion-supporting practices, and aligning meals with the body’s circadian rhythm are powerful fertility boosters. Sustainable lifestyle changes are essential for lasting fertility health, beyond short-term medication use. Links mentioned: —------------------------------------------------ For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com Take the quiz and start your journey here: To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/
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Ep 354 Oxytocin, Intimacy, and Fertility: A Sex Expert’s Guide with Susan Bratton
09/16/2025
Ep 354 Oxytocin, Intimacy, and Fertility: A Sex Expert’s Guide with Susan Bratton
On this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by intimacy expert and author Susan Bratton () to explore the powerful connection between passion, pleasure, and fertility. Too often, trying to conceive becomes mechanical and stressful, leaving intimacy feeling like a chore. Susan brings her 20+ years of experience helping couples transform “having sex” into “making love” and shares practical tools to reignite joy and connection on the fertility journey. We dive into her three keys to conception, relaxation, connection, and engorgement, and how practices like yoni massage, oxytocin-boosting foods, and conscious lovemaking can not only increase the chances of conceiving but also create a more vibrant and lasting intimacy. Susan also shares insights on male performance challenges, natural fertility-friendly products, and why cultivating oxytocin can be life-changing for both partners. If you’ve been feeling like intimacy has become all about the baby-making schedule, this episode will give you a refreshing and empowering perspective on bringing back the romance and planting the seeds for a lifetime of passion. Key Takeaways: Why fertility often makes intimacy feel mechanical and how to shift that. The three keys to conception from a sex expert’s perspective: relaxation, connection, and engorgement. How yoni massage and nitric oxide support female arousal and fertility. Oxytocin’s overlooked role in conception, joy, and long-term intimacy. Practical tools to reduce stress, reignite pleasure, and support both partners through TTC. Guest Bio: (), widely known as the “Intimacy Expert to Millions,” is a champion for lifelong passion and connection. She is the co-founder of Personal Life Media, creator of the Better Lover brand, and CEO of The20, a company producing organic and botanical supplements to support vitality. A best-selling author of over 40 books and programs, including Relationship Magic and Revive Her Drive, Susan has been featured on ABC, CBS, NBC, and is one of the most downloaded guests on countless podcasts worldwide. Connect with Susan: —------------------------------------------------ For more information about Michelle, visit Take the quiz and start your journey here: To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 353 A Wildflower Spoke to Me: What Actually Happens at a Joe Dispenza Retreat
09/09/2025
Ep 353 A Wildflower Spoke to Me: What Actually Happens at a Joe Dispenza Retreat
In this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m sharing my personal experience attending my fourth week-long Joe Dispenza retreat. From spontaneous moments of connection with the quantum field to powerful coherence healing experiences, I’ll walk you through what actually happens at these retreats and how Dr. Joe blends science and spirituality to help people transform and heal. I’ll also share the unexpected manifestation that left me speechless… and how I’ve started writing affirmations into thin air (yes, really!). Whether you're on a healing journey, exploring meditation, or just curious about how your mind shapes your reality, this episode is filled with practical inspiration, quantum insights, and deep personal reflection. Key Takeaways: What it’s really like to attend a Joe Dispenza week-long retreat (and why they sell out so quickly How Dr. Joe bridges quantum physics, neuroscience, and ancient wisdom The science behind the breathwork technique that activates the pineal gland Why becoming “nothing” during meditation is actually the path to transformation A real-life manifestation story involving a wild yellow flower The role of coherence healing and how it’s helping people shift physically and emotionally How letting go of control is key—especially on the fertility journey A simple technique to encode intentions using your finger in the air (yes, it works!) Why you don’t have to attend a retreat to benefit from the work __________________________________________________________ For more information about Michelle, visit Take the quiz and start your journey here: To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/
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Ep 352 Why Depletion Impacts Fertility After Baby with Brooke Harmer
09/02/2025
Ep 352 Why Depletion Impacts Fertility After Baby with Brooke Harmer
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Brooke Harmer (), the founder of The Well Nourished Mama, a nutritionist and postpartum health expert who supports women through pregnancy, postpartum, and beyond. Brooke’s journey began as a food blogger helping college students eat well on a budget, but after becoming a mother herself, she shifted her focus to helping women heal nutritionally after birth and prepare their bodies for future pregnancies. In this conversation, we explore how pregnancy, birth, and postpartum dramatically shift a woman’s biochemistry, gut microbiome, and hormonal balance, and why many women facing secondary infertility are actually experiencing a deep nutritional depletion. Brooke shares the foundational habits and healing foods that help rebuild nutrient stores and support fertility, whether it’s your first or third time trying to conceive. From bone broth and Brazil nuts to the power of minerals and full-fat dairy, this episode is packed with essential advice for replenishing the body and preparing for a thriving pregnancy. 🎧 Tune in if you’re navigating secondary infertility, prepping for conception after baby, or simply want to learn how to nourish your body through all seasons of motherhood. Key Takeaways: - Postpartum depletion can significantly impact future fertility. - The body undergoes major gut, immune, and hormonal shifts during pregnancy and childbirth. - Healing takes time, more than the traditional 6 weeks postpartum. - Eating 3 well-balanced meals a day is foundational for hormone and fertility health. - Minerals and full-fat foods are essential for restoring the body’s cellular function and hormonal balance. Guest Bio: Brooke Harmer (), is a certified perinatal nutritionist who empowers women to take a proactive, holistic approach to their health during pregnancy and postpartum. Blending evidence-based science with ancient nutritional wisdom, Brooke supports women in nourishing their bodies, working in sync with their medical providers, and thriving through every stage of motherhood. She’s the author of two best-selling cookbooks and the host of The Well Nourished Mama Podcast, a top 50 show that has become a go-to resource in the mama community for practical, grounded wellness guidance. Learn more about Brooke: —--------------------------- For more information about Michelle, visit Take the quiz and start your journey here: To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook:
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Ep 351 Spirit Baby Messages and Fertility Healing with Julie Ryan
08/26/2025
Ep 351 Spirit Baby Messages and Fertility Healing with Julie Ryan
In this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, psychic, medium, and medical intuitive Julie Ryan () returns to share her extraordinary “buffet of psychicness.” Julie has a rare ability to scan the body, facilitate energetic healings, and connect with spirits, including those of future children. You’ll hear a live fertility reading for one of my clients, where Julie uncovers energetic insights, identifies physical and emotional blocks, and even connects with two spirit babies waiting to join the family. We explore the body’s innate ability to heal, the role of mindset and nervous system regulation in fertility, and how to navigate the often overwhelming medical side of the journey. Julie also teaches her simple yet powerful “Two-Minute Rule” for reducing stress instantly, shares her process for regenerating energetic blueprints, and reminds us that healing is always possible. Whether you’re seeking answers, hope, or a deeper spiritual connection on your fertility path, this conversation offers both comfort and empowerment. Key Takeaways: The body has an innate ability to heal itself, healers and practitioners facilitate the process, but true healing comes from within. Spirit babies can attach to a mother’s energy field long before conception, offering reassurance and hope on the fertility journey. Shifting out of fear and stress is crucial, as the body enters creation mode—not survival mode, when it feels safe and calm. The “Two-Minute Rule” is a simple tool to quickly identify irrational fears and keep stress and inflammation levels low. Energetic healing can address both physical and emotional blocks, supporting reproductive health alongside conventional care. Guest Bio: is a psychic medium and medical intuitive with the ability to sense medical conditions, facilitate energetic healings, and communicate with spirits, both living and deceased. Known as a “buffet of psychicness™,” she can scan animals, access past lives, and even gauge how close someone is to passing. Julie is the author of Angelic Attendants and the Angel Messages® children’s books, and hosts the popular Ask Julie Ryan show, heard in over 100 countries. A businesswoman, inventor, and serial entrepreneur, she has founded nine companies across five industries and holds patents for surgical devices sold worldwide. Learn more about Julie Ryan: Follow her on: , and —--------------------------- For more information about Michelle, visit Take the quiz and start your journey here: To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/
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Ep 350 The #1 Mistake People Make When Trying to Manifest Their Baby
08/19/2025
Ep 350 The #1 Mistake People Make When Trying to Manifest Their Baby
On today’s solo episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I explore the often-misunderstood world of manifestation, especially as it relates to trying to conceive. If you’ve ever felt guilty for having negative thoughts or wondered whether your mindset is blocking your fertility, this episode is for you. I break down the energetic and physical layers of manifestation, share how flow state and nervous system regulation impact your ability to create (including fertility), and offer actionable tips for integrating mindset work in a way that supports, not overwhelms, your journey. From ancient wisdom to real-life stories (including how I manifested my dream job and meeting my husband), I share how true manifestation stems from a state of ease, alignment, and wholeness. Key Takeaways: Manifestation is not about toxic positivity or blaming yourself for your fertility journey Flow state, deep presence and openness, is the true foundation of creation Fertility is an extension of the body’s creative energy and should be supported holistically Validation of your emotions is essential, resisting them leads to stagnation Aligning body and mind through practices like meditation, journaling, and joy-based activities can help shift your energetic state Affirmations work best when they feel safe, believable, and rooted in gratitude Links and Resources: If you’re curious about how to quiet your mind and gently support your body with mindset tools, my Rooted Membership is designed for you. It’s a space where I share hypnosis audios, meditations, and mindset practices to bring calm to your fertility journey. You can even try it free for 7 days and see how it feels. ______________________ For more information about Michelle, visit Take the quiz and start your journey here: To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/
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Ep 349 Blocked Creativity, Emotional Trauma & the Womb-Fertility Connection
08/12/2025
Ep 349 Blocked Creativity, Emotional Trauma & the Womb-Fertility Connection
On this powerful solo episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I explore the deep connection between blocked creativity, emotional trauma, and the womb—and how this interplay can directly affect your fertility. While so many focus on ovulation tracking, supplements, and diet, it’s often the unspoken, unprocessed emotions that quietly influence conception. In this episode, I share the wisdom of ancient traditions and modern science, revealing how the womb is not just a physical organ but an energetic, emotional, and creative center. From Chinese medicine’s heart-womb connection to somatic healing practices like visualization and movement, I offer actionable ways to reconnect with your womb and unlock its healing potential. Whether you're trying to conceive or simply seeking a deeper relationship with your body, this episode will invite you to listen inward, release what’s been stored, and restore safety and softness to the womb space. Key Takeaways: How trauma, grief, and emotional blocks can be stored in the womb The ancient and energetic significance of the womb as a creative center How the heart and uterus are connected through Chinese medicine Practices to restore safety and regulation in the nervous system Simple tools like visualization, movement, and self-compassion to nurture the womb For more information about Michelle, visit Take the quiz and start your journey here: To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 348 The Hidden Link Between Stress, Blood Sugar, and Fertility with Jillian Greaves
08/05/2025
Ep 348 The Hidden Link Between Stress, Blood Sugar, and Fertility with Jillian Greaves
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Jillian Greaves , a functional medicine dietitian and women’s health expert, to unpack the complex but often overlooked, relationship between blood sugar balance, hormonal birth control, and fertility. Jillian shares her personal health journey from battling persistent symptoms like acne, bloating, anxiety, and hair loss to uncovering the deeper root causes through functional medicine. We dive into how hormonal birth control impacts your hormones, gut, liver, and micronutrient status, and why so many women feel worse when coming off the pill. Jillian also breaks down why managing blood sugar is essential not only for hormone balance but also for egg quality, ovulation, and creating safety in the body. Whether you're navigating post-birth control symptoms, thinking about conception, or simply curious about how nutrition and nervous system regulation influence your cycle, this episode is packed with insights that will leave you feeling empowered and informed. Key Takeaways: Hormonal birth control suppresses your natural hormone cycle and can lead to long-term nutrient depletion, gut imbalance, and inflammation. Coming off the pill is often a bumpy process that requires patience, support, and targeted care. Balanced blood sugar is the foundation of hormonal health and fertility—swings in either direction can create stress signals in the body. Fasting and trendy diets like intermittent fasting may backfire for women, especially those trying to conceive. Nutrition is powerful, but blood sugar regulation also depends on stress management, sleep, and circadian rhythm alignment. Guest Bio: Jillian Greaves is a functional medicine dietitian and women's health expert who helps women address the root causes of hormonal imbalances, period problems, and fertility challenges. After facing years of frustrating symptoms and inadequate answers from conventional care, Jillian turned to functional medicine to heal her own body and now supports others through a personalized, evidence-based approach. She offers private coaching, advanced lab testing, and practical guidance to help women feel empowered in their health journeys. Links and Resources: For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 347 Healing After Loss: A Fertility Journey Rooted in Inner Wisdom with Laetitia Felix
07/29/2025
Ep 347 Healing After Loss: A Fertility Journey Rooted in Inner Wisdom with Laetitia Felix
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by Laetitia Felix , a fertility mindset coach who shares her deeply personal and powerful journey through infertility, loss, and ultimately conception. After experiencing three ectopic pregnancies and an early miscarriage, Leatitia was told IVF was her only option—but she knew in her heart there was another path. In this vulnerable conversation, she opens up about how slowing down, healing her nervous system, and connecting to her spiritual self helped her conceive naturally—against the odds and through the same fallopian tube doctors advised removing. We also explore spirit baby communication, the emotional toll of unexplained infertility, and how reclaiming your inner wisdom can be the most radical act of self-love. This episode is an invitation to stop, listen, and trust the messages your body and spirit may already be sending you. Key Takeaways: Laetitia Felix conceived naturally after three ectopic pregnancies and an early loss—through the same tube doctors recommended removing. IVF was presented as her only option, but she chose to explore inner healing and spiritual connection instead. Emotional processing, mindset work, and womb healing played a major role in restoring her health and fertility. Connecting with her spirit baby gave her reassurance, peace, and a sense of divine timing. Fertility healing isn’t one-size-fits-all—trusting your intuition and calming the nervous system are foundational. Guest Bio: Laetitia Felix is a certified Fertility Mindset Coach based in London, originally from France. After navigating her own challenging path to motherhood—including multiple pregnancy losses—she now supports women on similar journeys through her holistic Mind, Body, and Soul approach. Laetitia helps women process emotional trauma, release both conscious and unconscious blocks, and reconnect with their inner wisdom to prepare for conception. Deeply passionate about this work, she brings compassion, lived experience, and powerful tools to guide women—whether they’re just starting out or healing after loss. Links and Resources: For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. TWF_-_347_-_Leatitia_audio Michelle Oravitz: [00:00:00] Episode number 347 of the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. My guest today is Leticia Felix. Leticia is a fertility and pregnancy after loss coach and a mind body, soul practitioner who believes in the power of working with a woman as a whole. Leticia conceived naturally at 40 after a four year journey through adenomyosis low a MH, unexplained infertility. Multiple losses, including three ectopic pregnancies and her own healing journey. Now she supports women navigating the unexplained diagnosis as well as pregnancy after loss, helping them uncover subconscious, emotional and energetic blocks, process grief and reconnect with her bodies and intuition, with a deep belief in their connection between the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. Leticia blends somatic, energetic. And mindset based therapies to identify and release blocks at all levels. [00:01:00] Boosting fertility and bringing empowerment, clarity, calm, and trust to their journey. Welcome to the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. I'm Michelle, a fertility acupuncturist here to provide you with resources on how to create a wholesome approach to your fertility journey. Welcome to the podcast Leticia. Thank you so much, Michelle, for having me. I'm very honored. It's a pleasure having you, and I know you have like a really amazing story, long story, difficult story to tell on your own fertility journey, and I love hearing these stories, especially when it brings you to doing the work that you're doing today and helping so many other people. So I'd love for you to share your story and how you got through it and. [00:02:00] Eventually conceived and had your kids. Yeah. Leatitia Felix: Yeah. It'll be my pleasure to share. Well, basically it was a long journey, let's put it that way. It took me four years to conceive. I didn't have any idea that would take that long. I was on a pill for very long time, which looking back now, I know it was one of the, a big mistake because I then was diagnosed with Alysis. So that was, we are talking in my early thirties when I thought. Let's planning for what I knew I wanted all my life, which is having children. I didn't meet the right partner, my twenties, so you know, it's very common to start family around 30. So I thought, okay, let's stop the pill. But then as we know now, when you stop the pill, you realize after if you had issues, this is when it all comes. You know, times 4, 5, 10. Long story short, I did some tests. I had very painful, heavy periods. I did the test that told me I had adenomyosis, which is kind of. Sister of [00:03:00] endometriosis, they told me at that point that fertility could be an issue. They also gave me medication and I'm really not good with medication. I'm not good with all medical side of things. So anyway, I still took them, but then I thought, okay, I'm still gonna try and it might just not affect me. I dunno if that's what affected me, but that's just to give a bit of idea of what was in the background when I started. And then I just. For, you know, I didn't know anything about what conception. I mean, now I know how. It's so much more than just the sperm meat, the egg, and especially for any woman out there, you know, going through fertility issues, we know that it's, it's so much more complex. You need to create really the right environment. So I can talk about that after. But basically at the time I just thought, you know, I'll give you a try. And actually we get pregnant very easily within six months. So at that point I was 34 I think, or 35, and. Everything was [00:04:00] very happy days. You know, I made the special announcement to my partner on his birthday. Everything was amazing, but I suffered from my first ectopic pregnancy, so I found that maybe a week or two weeks after when I started to bleed and. That's when the story really started to get complicated. So altogether I had three ectopic throughout the four years and I had one early, early loss. So I won't go through all of them, but basically it's pretty much every year I had a loss. I, after the second loss, that's when I started to do all the tests. Mentioned also, the ectopic pregnancy is very dangerous, so. When it happened, thankfully I managed to keep my fallopian tubes, but I was treated with medication and that also had a knock on effect on my health, so as if it wasn't bad enough to have suffered a loss. Also, my health suffered. The medication is very, very strong, and I had to have two dosage, I think they call it. It's like a [00:05:00] chemo treatment, actually. It kills all your cells, so you can just imagine. And after that, the knock on effect was gut health issues, mental. I suppose anxiety, panic attacks, like mental issues. I also suffered like skin issues. I found that out. Michelle Oravitz: That's a very strong treatment. Yeah, Leatitia Felix: it's very strong. I mean, it depletes you from all your folates, you know, inside your body. But I don't think it's just that. I think it's so much more. If you imagine you kill all your good back, you know, you talk a lot about the gut health, so obviously. You know, it's got all this effect on your health, but also on your conception, on your fertility health. So it actually got worse. And then after my first loss or my second loss, the second was an early chemical pregnancy, that's when I started to really look into my symptoms and thought, okay, I started to look into neuropathy and acupuncture and to all the women out there, I can only highly recommend. I mean, it goes hand in hand to me the importance of [00:06:00] the gut health. And the overall health of your body, not just the supplement we take for fertility, but everything around the digestion, around the blood flow, all of that. So it really helped me, but clearly it wasn't enough because then I suffer another topic. And when I started do all the medical tests, you know, everything came back pretty normal, apart from the fact that they said my egg reserve was low. They said that I was approaching 40, so the only option for me would be IVF, and I have nothing against IVF. I just don't like how it's thrown at beyond the option without actually looking at anything else. They never said, oh, food is very important. You know, food, food is very like important into your fertility, your mental health, your emotions, your mindset, everything that I now know, none of, none of the doctors would talk about that. So I didn't go for IVF because. [00:07:00] It didn't feel right to me at the time. And also I was told that you had more chances of having ectopic. So I thought, well, you know, I don't see how, and you know, I think like you have to prepare yourself mentally to do that, and I, I thought it would be at some point, maybe a plan B, but I was really trying to find the root of the issues also. Although I was told it's unexplained, you know that, that big thing , But anyway, he didn't convince me at the time, so I was like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Along with all the medication and everything to take I 4K. And also I didn't have any medical, you know, specific issue. I had an unexplained diagnosis, so to me, I felt that it was more to it, but that wasn't medical. But that's so Michelle Oravitz: strange too to me. Um, because you, you had adenomyosis. Leatitia Felix: Yes, I had that. Yeah. It is in inflammation. You're right. But when I did all the testing in terms of my hormones, my tubes tested, the egg reserve was low, but that's what they came, you know, they said, well, you can get pregnant. That was the answer [00:08:00] as well. Well, you can get pregnant as you got pregnant four times. Well, not four times. At the time it was twice, so there's no reason why you can't get pregnant. There's no nothing we can do for the ectopic. So let alone, when I had three, I was like, well, surely, and it's always been on the left side as well, when you look more on the spiritual side, you know, the feminine side. So I don't know if that's anything to do with that, but I obviously dig more into it. I also. Spoke to a baby spirit, you know, person that spoke to the baby spirit, and I learned so much more about the divine timing and things like that. Oh, Michelle Oravitz: so talk to us about all of it. Don't leave anything out because that's very interesting. Leatitia Felix: Well, when I went through those losses, I obviously, I did the physical side. All my symptoms were gone in terms of like my skin issue, my eczema, my asthma. That came out of nowhere. The digestion issue, all of that was cleared. So I was in a good place physically, but during that time, I also turned to angelic reiki. I came across the, you know, the universe. [00:09:00] Funny way of showing things. I kept hearing Raiki Raiki. I was like, what is Raiki? And long story short, I met my healer, neither I've known for over 10 years, who trained Evangelic Raiki, and I start looking into this. I always believe in something more than you know, the universe and all of the spiritual side. But that really like helped me as well to feel also, I lost my mom before I went through all of these fertility issues. So. Michelle Oravitz: Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Thank you. Leatitia Felix: So I felt like I had kind of a spiritual awakening at the time, and so when I turned to baby spirit, communi, I dunno how you call them, you know, I suppose Michelle Oravitz: spirit, baby. Yeah, yeah. Spirit, baby communication and medium. Yeah. Leatitia Felix: I dunno how you call them. Mediums, I suppose. Michelle Oravitz: Yeah. Leatitia Felix: It wasn't something that was woohoo for me. For me that was a normal, natural thing. I just wanted to know more. So I thought, is there any other way that I can actually understand what's coming up in terms of the baby spirits? So what I was told at the [00:10:00] time was that the first loss wasn't, the soul of the baby was never meant to come to earth. It was meant to help me grow spiritually and. So it was part of my path. Basically, it was growth and I suppose. With time as well. I realized that all this journey, although it's very hard to understand once you are in, it wasn't happening to me. It was happening for me in a way that helped me to understand about, you know, as I said, nutrition changed my way of doing my mindset. That changed how I learn about all the mindset stuff. So that was part of it. And then I also spoke to my daughter that. Now I have with me. And that was part of the losses as well. She said I wasn't ready yet. And also it was about her. She wasn't meant to come at a specific time and it was not yet her time, but it was, you know, reassurance within that for me because I was like, I'm not going crazy. I am gonna become a mom. My baby's out there. [00:11:00] It's just that, Michelle Oravitz: yeah, Leatitia Felix: when it happens, you've got so much fear and you're like, I've always known deep down I'm gonna be a mom. This is like something I've always. And also when I lost my mom, I was like, I need to have that bond with, I always believed that be having a daughter, a daughter as well. That's, you know, and. Like, I need to have that same bond I had with my mom and I, I just can't accept that I'm not gonna have one. It was so ingrained inside me. So when that happened, I thought, I'm not completely crazy then it is happening. It's just, I didn't understand why I had to go through all of that. And I guess it gave me some kind of, I can't say closure, but like explanation. Michelle Oravitz: Like hope also. Yeah. Leatitia Felix: Yeah. I wish I knew it before in a way. 'cause I was like, well when you are in that spiral you just, you know, my mistake going through all the F losses is that I never stopped. I always wanted to keep going. I'm kind of that person. I need to find solution, I need to keep going. [00:12:00] And so I never. Grieved, I suppose. I never, until I came to the fourth loss and that's when I think I had a moment where I thought, okay, I have to stop everything. So going through those losses, coming to the third ectopic, I remember being in that hospital. Corridor. And I was very lucky because those drugs only happen the first time. And then I know some women go from like CIB ruptures and they have to go for surgery and it can be very life threatening. So I'm very blessed that I didn't have that and my fallopian. Remained and I had to go through expectant management on the next ectopic, which means you let your body just process the loss and remove the pregnancy basically. But after the third one, the doctor in that hospital said. Okay, I've got a surgery in half an hour. Look his watch, let's go and remove your tube. And I was a bit shocked [00:13:00] because my hormone levels were really low. And so when it's that almost non-existent, you technically not in danger or anything, so you're supposed to do expectant management. So I was like, why do I have to do that? And his answer was very uncompassionate. Well, you've had free ectopic. How many more do you want? And I was, wow. Yeah. That was shocking to me. 'cause I was like, that's not really a way for me to convince me to do it, or even to show me compassion. I'm going through a loss. But he was exactly his words. I mean, it's stuck in my mind. And I said, listen, I've asked the question in a way I took back my control because I was giving my power away through all those years, and I was so happy to. Take back my control and say, listen, is my health in danger? Is any, you know, what are the reason for doing that? And he said, is to, to prevent another topic. And I'm like, okay, I need to take the night to think about this, which I did. And he said, well, we need to do it while you're [00:14:00] going through it because you, we can't remove your tube after. Again, I dunno if that's true, but that was the answer. Michelle Oravitz: That makes no sense to me. I know. That's crazy. Leatitia Felix: Me neither. But as it was really his answer, he said, we have to do it while you're going through the next few days. We can't do it whilst you don't have, you're not pregnant anymore. So I'm like, okay. Anyway, talked to work with my partner and I really followed my gut on that one. And this is what was the kind of the moment where I decided, okay, I need to trust myself again. And I decided not to do it. I said to my partner, maybe we'll talk about IVF. Maybe we'll do something else. But for now, I think we need to give it one more shot. And long story short, again, the following year. The exact same month and the exact same month, I felt naturally pregnant on the LE same tube that was going to be removed, which is my left tube. I didn't do anything else physically from the third ectopic to the natural pregnancy, except from [00:15:00] then working a lot on my mindset, on my energy, and on the. Emotion processing, which this is what I've learned and now I teach my clients. And so yeah, so after that, that loss and that talk with the doctor and not doing it, we decided to take a break. And that's what I mean by take back my power suppose and, and also just stopping the race. I felt like I was on a race on the. If forget marathon, it was like, you know, and I was, I was paralleling out of control in terms of who I was, in terms of like, well, social life didn't exist anymore. My partner, my relationship was going, uh. Just me being cry, either crying or being completely obsessive or, you know, just talk about, it was just all we talked about, as I'm sure a lot of women can relate, was conception and stress, and my body was in complete fear. Um, fight or flight mode, like [00:16:00] survival, basically. So I said, if we are gonna give you one more try, I wanna give it my best shot. And I can't carry on that way because if a novel loss happened, I dunno where I will be at that point. So we need to get back to ourselves, and that's what we did. Michelle Oravitz: Yeah. So that was when you took the year off and then you conceived naturally? Yes. Leatitia Felix: I mean it was always trying naturally anyway, but we took about. Mm-hmm. So I got pregnant in October and the loss, the previous loss was also October, so we started again in July. So I wouldn't say it was a year, but yeah, nine months approximately to completely switch off from conception. And I'm talking, not even trying, purposely, not talking about it, but back to the basics, which joy, connection, self-love, but also so much. Yes. Emotional processing because. You know when you stop and you're like, this is when everything comes back and you're [00:17:00] like, actually, I didn't stop. I didn't want to face those emotions and I didn't want to because if I would, I wouldn't be strong enough and I wouldn't be able to carry on. So I had to carry on. Yeah. But I've learned that it's not about not slowing down. It's not about. Affection or being strong, it's actually about processing as well. And let your body, your mind, process everything in order to be actually stronger in that sense. What I mean by strong is your body the best chance to thrive, you...
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Ep 346 “Unexplained Infertility” Might Not Be What You Think
07/22/2025
Ep 346 “Unexplained Infertility” Might Not Be What You Think
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I dive deep into the topic of unexplained infertility—a term often given when standard fertility tests show “normal” results, yet conception still isn’t happening. I share how Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), functional testing, and a deeper mind-body approach can offer clarity where conventional medicine falls short. We’ll explore key overlooked areas such as egg and sperm quality, thyroid health, gut imbalances, endocrine disruptors, and the vital role of nervous system regulation. Whether you’re newly diagnosed or years into your fertility journey, this episode will empower you with insights that go far beyond the typical lab work. Key Takeaways: TCM can detect subtle imbalances long before they appear in clinical tests. Factors like egg quality, sperm DNA fragmentation, endometrial inflammation, and thyroid health are frequently missed. Nervous system regulation and stress support are essential but often overlooked in fertility care. Gut health and exposure to endocrine disruptors significantly impact hormonal and reproductive function. ------------------ For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 345 Messages from the Other Side: Spirit Baby Communication With Anne-Claire Le Bihan
07/15/2025
Ep 345 Messages from the Other Side: Spirit Baby Communication With Anne-Claire Le Bihan
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by spirit baby medium Anne-Claire Le Bihan , who guides women in connecting with the souls of their future children. With a background in midwifery and naturopathy, Anne-Claire shares how her own pregnancy journey awakened her intuitive abilities and led her to support women experiencing unexplained infertility. Together, we dive into the messages spirit babies want to share, why they might delay incarnating, and how making space emotionally, spiritually, and even physicalyl, can open the path to conception. Anne-Claire offers practical tools for tuning into these messages, from meditation and journaling to setting intentions before sleep. Whether you're struggling to conceive, feeling called to connect spiritually with your future child, or simply open to a deeper perspective on fertility, this episode offers a beautiful blend of soul, surrender, and hope. Key Takeaways: Making space—mentally, emotionally, and physically—is essential for welcoming in new life. Guest Bio: Anne-Claire Le Bihan is a Spirit Baby Medium and Spiritual Fertility Guide who has helped hundreds of women around the world connect with their Spirit Babies and bring their dreams of motherhood to life. Through her Bring Your Spirit Baby Home program, private sessions, and meditations, Anne-Claire guides women to clear emotional and energetic blocks, deepen their trust, and align their body, mind, and spirit for conception. Blending intuition with grounded spiritual tools, her mission is to empower women to feel supported, connected, and truly held on their journey to motherhood. Links and Resources: For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 344 Spirit Babies, Signs, and Surrender with Susan Singer
07/08/2025
Ep 344 Spirit Babies, Signs, and Surrender with Susan Singer
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m joined once again by Susan Singer , fertility yoga teacher, spirit baby advocate, and co-founder of Gals Off The Grid. Susan first appeared on the podcast back in episode 3, where she shared her fertility journey. Today, we revisit that path and explore the remarkable unfolding of motherhood, intuition, and spiritual alignment that followed. Susan shares how she went from multiple rounds of IVF to a natural conception, and the moment Michelle felt her pregnancy through pulse diagnosis before any test confirmed it. We dive deep into the signs, synchronicities, and spiritual guidance that supported her journey, including a powerful numerological moment in the delivery room that tied back to a PIN code she created 15 years prior. Now a mom and wellness entrepreneur, Susan reflects on how her connection to community, the land, and her own inner wisdom helped shape Gals Off The Grid, a nature-inspired membership and retreat space for soul-led women seeking to reconnect with the rhythms of Mother Earth and feminine energy. This episode is a beautiful reminder that the fertility journey is more than just the physical process it's a soul path rich with signs, surrender, and divine timing. Key Takeaways: Fertility journeys often unfold in unexpected, divinely timed ways. Spirit baby connections can provide emotional and spiritual clarity during the TTC process. Masculine energy and control can create internal resistance, while surrender opens the path to conception. Community and connection to nature can be powerful tools for healing and transformation. Gals Off The Grid offers somatic, seasonal, and soul-led guidance for women rooted in ancient wisdom and modern science. Guest Bio: Susan Singer is a visionary storyteller, certified yoga teacher, and co-host of the Gals Off The Grid Podcast. With over 15 years of experience across the entertainment and wellness industries, she blends creativity with ancient wisdom to help women reconnect with their voice, purpose, and feminine energy. Susan leads soul-nourishing retreats, moon circles, and healing gatherings rooted in nature, intuition, and ancestral traditions. Her work honours the sacred wisdom of those who came before while empowering women to reclaim their power and live from a place of grounded truth and spiritual alignment. Links and Resources: For more information about Michelle, visit To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: Instagram: Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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EP 343 Optimising Implantation, Egg Quality, and Hormonal Health with Laser Therapy with Lorne Brown
07/01/2025
EP 343 Optimising Implantation, Egg Quality, and Hormonal Health with Laser Therapy with Lorne Brown
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Lorne Brown (@), a leading expert in integrative reproductive health and the founder of Acubalance Wellness Centre. We explore the groundbreaking potential of low-level laser therapy (LLLT), also known as photobiomodulation, and how it can support fertility, egg and sperm quality, and overall reproductive health. Dr. Brown breaks down the science behind this innovative, non-invasive therapy, revealing how light can stimulate mitochondrial function, regulate inflammation, improve blood flow, and even support the nervous system. We also dive into the fascinating history of how this therapy was discovered for fertility by accident, the results of clinical research, and why dosage, wavelength, and placement matter when using this technology. Whether you're navigating IVF, struggling with unexplained infertility, or looking for additional support on your path to conception, this episode is packed with valuable insights. Key Takeaways: Low-level laser therapy (LLLT) or photobiomodulation enhances mitochondrial function, which is key to egg and embryo quality. The therapy can improve blood flow, regulate inflammation, reduce oxidative stress, and support nutrient absorption at the cellular level. It also helps balance the autonomic nervous system, shifting the body into parasympathetic mode to support reproductive health. Dr. Brown shares clinical data showing improved blastocyst rates and live births using LLLT before IVF transfers. Not all laser systems are created equal—dosage, wavelength, and delivery matter for therapeutic benefit. Guest Bio: Dr. Lorne Brown @ is a leader in integrative fertility care, blending Chinese medicine, mind-body healing, and cutting-edge therapies. A former Chartered Professional Accountant (CPA), his personal health journey led him to acupuncture, herbal medicine, and holistic fertility support. As the founder of Acubalance Wellness Centre, he introduced low-level laser therapy (LLLT) for fertility and pioneered IVF acupuncture in Vancouver. He also created Healthy Seminars, an online education platform, and hosts The Conscious Fertility Podcast, where he explores the intersection of science, consciousness, and reproductive health. Links and Resources: : Get Free Fertility Diet Guide For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/ Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 342 The Hidden Reason Your Fertility May Be Declining—And How to Reverse It
06/24/2025
Ep 342 The Hidden Reason Your Fertility May Be Declining—And How to Reverse It
Did you know your fertility could be declining due to something deeper than hormone levels or age? In this solo episode, I explore a powerful yet often overlooked aspect of reproductive health through the lens of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM): Kidney Qi. In TCM, the kidneys are not just responsible for filtering blood—they are the energetic source of your reproductive potential. I unpack how Kidney Jing (essence), Yin and Yang imbalances, and pre-heaven vs. post-heaven Qi all influence egg and sperm quality, libido, menstrual health, and even your nervous system. You’ll learn how to recognise the signs of weakened Kidney Qi and discover lifestyle, nutrition, and mindset shifts to nourish this vital essence naturally. This episode is packed with practical tips and ancient wisdom to help you reverse the hidden energetic causes of declining fertility and move forward with more confidence and vitality. Key Takeaways: In Chinese medicine, fertility is rooted in Kidney Jing, the essence we inherit from our parents and support throughout life. Signs of depleted Kidney Qi can include fatigue, night sweats, low libido, shortened cycles, delayed ovulation, and emotional anxiety. Anti-aging and egg/sperm quality are closely tied to mitochondrial health, which reflects the state of your Kidney Qi. Lifestyle factors like sleep, stress, nutrition, and warmth (especially around your lower back and feet) can significantly boost reproductive vitality. Foods that nourish Kidney Jing include bone broth, goji berries, black sesame seeds, walnuts, seaweed, dark leafy greens, and cooked foods over raw. Practices like acupuncture, meditation, and even visualization can support Kidney Qi and overall reproductive wellness. For more information about Michelle, visit Grab your copy of my Be Calmm ebook—a mind-body guide to creating a fertility-friendly nervous system To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 341 The Truth About AMH and FSH: What These Numbers Actually Mean
06/17/2025
Ep 341 The Truth About AMH and FSH: What These Numbers Actually Mean
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m breaking down the truth behind two of the most talked-about fertility hormones: AMH and FSH. Whether you're navigating IVF, trying to conceive naturally, or just beginning to explore your fertility, understanding what these numbers actually mean (and what they don’t) is essential. In this solo episode, I share what AMH (Anti-Müllerian Hormone) and FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone) reveal about your ovarian reserve, what doctors are looking for, and why these values are only one piece of the fertility puzzle. I also offer insights into how lifestyle, nutrition, and stress management can positively influence your hormonal health and egg quality. Tune in for a science-meets-soul discussion that will empower you to move forward with more clarity, hope, and confidence on your fertility journey. Key Takeaways: AMH indicates the estimated quantity of follicles, while FSH reflects how well your ovaries respond to stimulation. These values don’t measure egg quality—and they certainly don’t define your fertility potential. Numbers like AMH and FSH are just a snapshot in time; they can change with the right support. Egg quality can be supported through lifestyle shifts, acupuncture, and antioxidant-rich nutrition. Natural conception is possible—even with “low” AMH or “high” FSH. ---------------------- For more information about Michelle, visit To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: Instagram: Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Ep 340 A Functional Approach to PCOS, Autoimmunity, and Hormonal Healing with Hannah Davis
06/10/2025
Ep 340 A Functional Approach to PCOS, Autoimmunity, and Hormonal Healing with Hannah Davis
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by Hannah Davis , a Registered Dietitian and certified meditation teacher who specialises in women’s health, hormones, and autoimmune conditions. After being diagnosed with Hashimoto’s while navigating early motherhood, Hannah shifted her clinical nutrition practice to focus on uncovering the deeper root causes of symptoms like fatigue, cycle irregularities, and PCOS. We dive into how nervous system dysregulation often underlies hormonal imbalances and why functional testing, mineral status, and emotional safety are crucial for true healing. From decoding PCOS types to understanding thyroid antibodies and the connection between trauma and calcium retention, Hannah offers a deeply integrative and compassionate lens for supporting women on their fertility and healing journeys. This conversation is packed with practical tools and fresh insights—don’t miss it! Key Takeaways: PCOS is not just about ovarian cysts—it's a metabolic and inflammatory condition with many root causes. Nervous system regulation is foundational for hormone balance, digestion, and fertility. Functional lab testing (like Dutch and HTMA) reveals hidden patterns traditional labs may miss. Excess calcium in tissues may indicate trauma or over-supplementation with Vitamin D. Diet, stress, sleep, and gut health all influence autoimmune and hormonal symptoms. Guest Bio: Hannah Davis, RD is a Registered Dietitian and certified meditation teacher with advanced training in functional nutrition, lab testing, and spiritual psychology. She specialises in supporting women with hormonal imbalances, autoimmune conditions like Hashimoto’s, and chronic fatigue through an integrative approach that blends clinical science with deep nourishment and nervous system healing. After navigating her own health challenges postpartum, Hannah now helps women reclaim their energy, resilience, and sense of safety through 1:1 coaching and group programs at Pivot Nutrition Coaching. She’s especially passionate about working with mothers, self-healers, and cycle-breakers who are ready to feel like themselves again. Links and Resources: For more information about Michelle, visit To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: Instagram: Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. ------------- Transcript: # Audio: TWF 340- Hannah [00:00:00] [00:01:00] Welcome to the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. I'm Michelle, a fertility acupuncturist here to provide you with resources on how to create a wholesome approach to your fertility journey. **Michelle:** Welcome to the podcast, Hannah. **Hannah:** thanks for having me. **Michelle:** So I'm very excited to have you on. We're gonna be talking about a lot of really cool topics, but before we get started, I always like to start out with kind of like an origin story and learn how you got into the work that you're doing. **Hannah:** Yeah. I am a registered dietician. I've been mainly practicing medical nutrition therapy for the last 10 years in a more clinical setting. And you know, and then [00:02:00] I became a mom. I have two. One's almost eight, you gotta say almost eight. And the other one's, and the other one's nine. So they're really, they're really young and I, you know, working at the hospital part-time and I started noticing. **Hannah:** My own symptoms of, of things that just felt like off. And simultaneously I was also becoming more interested in learning about more integrative functional nutrition. And so that really led me down. It, it started off as, oh. A way for me to kind of figure out what was going on with me, because of course, like so many of my, the clients I work with now you know, you go to the doctors, you ask for some labs to be done and they just say, oh, you're absolutely fine. **Hannah:** You might just be stressed. You're stressed out, you're a young mom. Of course it's normal to feel exhausted all of the time and stuff like that. So, I just was like really interested [00:03:00] in doing more digging and so I, we got some training in advanced lab testing and more like integrative functional nutrition. **Hannah:** And so. From there I was able to figure out what's going on with me, and I, I actually have an autoimmune condition. It's called Hashimotos. And so that really affects, you know, your, your energy levels, your, your gut health, your immune system obviously is involved. So I, it was so incredibly validating and it really excited me. **Hannah:** I was like, I feel. If I can figure out a way to use advanced lab testing and combine that with my. More of my more clinical, you know, expertise and combine that together to really like, help women feel empowered about how to support their health and, and how they feel and their showing up in their lives every [00:04:00] day. **Hannah:** And so it just really, really excited me. So that's kind of what got me started with that. And then I, I pivoted towards, towards that about three years ago started my own virtual practice working more in like the women's health space. So like hormones, gut health, autoimmune conditions. **Hannah:** And then I, as I was doing more of that work, I was like, okay, there's. I'm seeing a common theme here. These women at their root, cause a lot of the time is nervous system dysregulation. And I got really. Tired of just saying over and over again. You know, you need to manage your stress a little bit better. **Hannah:** I wanted to be able to give them so much more than that. And obviously I knew that from my own journey. I really had to integrate that. And so, but I wanted to like, figure out how to help my, my clients integrate that. So then I became a certified meditation [00:05:00] teacher. And spent a year studying spiritual psychology, which is like a blend of Eastern ritual and practices with western psychology. **Hannah:** That, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So now I really like to supplement my, programs with giving my clients tools on how to regulate their nervous systems as well. And so, we'll, you know, you know, it's more of like life coaching almost. And then maybe we'll integrate some, some things like, meditation or breath work together. **Hannah:** It really just depends on what the, how the client wants to be supported. So **Michelle:** Awesome. **Hannah:** Yeah. **Michelle:** You know it's interesting 'cause I **Hannah:** Yeah. **Michelle:** an episode on. Nervous system. Really the vagal tone and **Hannah:** Yes. **Michelle:** there's a link with a weaker vagal tone and things like endometriosis or **Michelle:** PCOS, and I thought that was just fascinating. [00:06:00] **Michelle:** So, yeah, I'd love to really kind of dig deep on all of these things. So just for people listening and they're kind of like hearing nervous system for the first time. 'cause well maybe they've listened to my podcast, maybe not when I talked about the nervous system. But what should people, like, explain the nervous system, explain how the nervous system ties into certain conditions. **Hannah:** I mean, that's a very, like, that's pretty broad because it's like, you know, it really depends on what. **Michelle:** the nervous system like tie into certain conditions? **Hannah:** I don't know what condition it doesn't, honestly. Uh, the more, the more I get like deep in the weeds with this, so, you know, a lot of my clients we, you know, so I am typically working with people with autoimmune conditions and hormone. I balances gut health, that kind of stuff. And I, you know, I would say the nervous system impacts all of those areas [00:07:00] because ideally, especially when we're talking about women's health and like hormones, things like that we really just want to create safety in the body, right? **Hannah:** So that we can. Manufacture hormones and ovulate naturally and things like that. So, and then, you know, inflammation's another, another piece of that. It really just, it's a great way to, like, it just connects to everything right. **Michelle:** Yeah, well the vagus nerve is incredibly important when it comes to gut health. the stronger the vagal tone, the better the vagus nerve, the better. It's able to lower inflammation in the body. **Hannah:** Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. **Michelle:** fascinating and interesting. And so what are some of the things that you do suggest for people. they wanna regulate their nervous system and support that aspect. **Hannah:** So First of all, I think it's important to just figure out what are the systems for that client? What are [00:08:00] the systems that are working for them and what's not? And really get really honest about that. And then, you know, it could be something like starting a. **Hannah:** Very doable meditation practice or some breath work like before, before meals, right? Getting into rest and digest me activating that vagus nerve so that we can digest our food properly. So it really just depends on what is feels a lot most aligned for the client and, and is doable for them. But also I think another big piece of this, which is not really talked about often is eating for blood sugar balance. **Hannah:** Because even like blood sugar swings throughout the day can cause fluctuations in your mood and your anxiety and cravings and all, all of, and even inflammation as well. So **Michelle:** that **Hannah:** like a whole body [00:09:00] approach. Mm-hmm. **Michelle:** It's such a good point. And I remember like looking into this and researching like just really the gut brain connection and. And it's interesting 'cause you can see it really go both ways. So if you have imbalanced gut microbiome that can ima impact your brain and your mood and your state and your emotions. **Michelle:** And it actually is linked with certain emotional um, imbalances or like mental disorders. It's really fascinating. And then they found. On the flip side that people who meditated for many years, like Tibetan monks, they had a really vast microbiome that was a lot more enriched and had a lot more diversity. **Michelle:** So it's really fascinating how you really can literally get it at both ends or either end. **Hannah:** yeah. Like I tell my clients all the time, if you're breathing into your shoulders, the majority of the time it's gonna signal, [00:10:00] or that's gonna signal to the brain that you're in fight or flight. So it's gonna send all the blood to your extremities. It's not gonna be sending the blood to, you know, your, your GI track and your, you know, your organs there. **Hannah:** And so. it's gonna be a lot harder to digest your foods, whereas if you are really taking these deep breaths into your belly, it's sending all the blood there. And that's, that's a, and I mean, I often get skipped, you know, people are just like, no, just gimme a, just gimme a meal plan. I wanna feel better. **Hannah:** I wanna lose weight, or I wanna, you know, but it's like, you really gotta think about not just what you're eating, but how you're eating, like what your nervous system state is. You know, when you're, when you're eating food. **Michelle:** That's so true. It's **Hannah:** Mm-hmm. **Michelle:** true. And it was funny 'cause I was reading about that and it was one of the things to do is just stand. This is why they say like, don't drive and eat at the same time. Because when you're driving naturally, you're gonna be in a little bit more of a fight or flight or kind of ready for anything and. Also just to kind of throw it out [00:11:00] there, it's not bad to be in that state, in that sympathetic state. It's part of life. It's just that sometimes you need that and then sometimes you need the other. But what you're saying is so true, like it's actually like becoming mindful of getting yourself into that state and maybe **Michelle:** doing those exercises to get yourself in more parasympathetic state, which is more of **Michelle:** the rest and digest, so that you're priming your body when you do eat. To digest better. So I think **Hannah:** Yeah. Of course, and, you know, if you're digesting better, you're absorbing nutrients better, which is gonna impact your energy levels, your mood, your hormones, everything. So yeah, there really, I feel like the more I get into it, the, more I see that there really isn't an aspect of our health, our med, our metabolic health, everything that is not touched by, your nervous system. **Michelle:** Yeah, it's really fascinating. I like, the more I dig into this, the more I'm just like so [00:12:00] amazed at how Willy, you know, it's the nervous system is kind of like this wiring of like. Information. **Michelle:** It's almost like information that kind of signals to your body, all kinds of different states, but especially that safety. **Michelle:** I agree with you. You know, when you, when you feel safe, you can be more creative. And what does that mean really in the body fertility and it also regeneration growth. **Michelle:** So yeah, it's pretty cool, **Hannah:** Yeah. And I mean, hormones, that's how hormones work too. They're just chemical messengers in your body. **Michelle:** right? and so talk about PCOS, 'cause I know that you work with P-C-O-S-A lot just to cover. 'cause I think of people don't really understand it fully because it is you know, there's so many different types of PCOS and people get confused and sometimes people show PCOS symptoms, but then some doctors, and we don't know if they're just not like looking. Thoroughly into it. Dismiss it. Oh, that's not PCOS. So **Hannah:** Right. **Michelle:** that and just kind of, **Hannah:** Yeah. **Michelle:** [00:13:00] it is, **Hannah:** Okay, well, we'll just start what, like, so what is PCOS? So PCOS stands for polycystic ovarian syndrome. So a lot of people get confused by that right off the bat. They think, oh, so that mean I have cysts on my ovaries. Does that mean that I have it? So it's actually not a physical ovarian condition, like of the presence of cyst, but it's rather a hormonal condition and it's a, what I like to call a spectrum condition. **Hannah:** You know, 'cause there's different varieties and there's different root causes. It's important to understand, first of all what kind of PCOS you have and what the root causes are which is why we, we use functional lab testing in practice. But but yeah, I think a lot of women often it's like a long confusing road full of mixed messages of like just lose weight advice, **Michelle:** Yeah, **Hannah:** [00:14:00] you know. **Michelle:** really thin. PCOS patients, so that's where it can get so confusing for **Hannah:** Right, right, right. And so, A-P-C-O-S isn't in an ovarian condition, you know, what exactly is going on? I mean, in a nutshell, it's basically, blood sugar issues plus inflammation, plus genetic susceptibility, which is going to lead to the ovaries to begin to produce large amounts of androgens. **Hannah:** So, you know, and I say genetic susceptibility because, you know, just because you have like insulin sensi or insulin resistance or diabetes, that doesn't mean you automatically are gonna get PCOS. Some people just have really sensitive ovaries right. And so they're, they're going to develop the, the condition, so I like to talk to my clients about well first of all, we start by running some tests [00:15:00] to find out, you know, what what their root causes are. And then we're gonna really go deep with, you know, working on the blood sugar issues with the inflammation, real food strategies lifestyle interventions, things like that. **Michelle:** One of the things that I find is pretty common just in my own practice, is that. **Michelle:** there's a huge link of gut imbalance **Michelle:** or, you know, gut microbiome **Michelle:** imbalance and inflammation, you know, that is part of the contributor to the inflammation and can really impact PCOS conditions. **Hannah:** Yeah. Because you know, if we, if that inflammation in the gut is going unchecked you know, that's also gonna drive that insulin resistance even more. **Michelle:** Yeah. **Michelle:** what are some of the tests that you do for PCOS? Functional **Hannah:** Well, yeah. Well, first of all, I, I like to start with a Dutch test. It's a, have you heard of [00:16:00] Dutch? The Uhhuh? Yeah. Oh, you do? Okay. Yeah. So I would run a Dutch you know, so that we, **Michelle:** out just for people **Hannah:** yeah. Yes, **Michelle:** I've never heard of it before. So it's dried urine testing for comprehensive, or I forget **Hannah:** it's a Dr. It's a. Yeah, yeah. Dried urine test for comprehensive hormones. I know I used to think, oh, it's of Dutch, like it's from the Dutch, like, you know, but it's just an abbreviation. **Michelle:** right, right. **Hannah:** But yes, it's a very unique way to look at hormones. 'cause traditionally before this test was available, you would have to rely on blood work for hormones. **Hannah:** And, you know, saliva for cortisol, which is okay, but it's just not great. So this test really helps us get a lot more specific, a lot more personalized, and helps us get some answers that would probably. Be left unanswered if we were just, you know, looking at, at blood work alone. So, you know, it's gonna tell us, you know, give us a snapshot [00:17:00] of all three sex hormones, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. **Hannah:** It's gonna show us how they're being metabolized in the liver. And then what I really like is it looks at your cortisol awakening response. So someone is struggling with sleep, mood, energy levels. Things like that that could also be driving your symptoms and, and your inflammation as well. So I, mm-hmm. **Michelle:** cortisol is your friend in the morning. **Hannah:** Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then I like that it also has that organic acid test at the end there, which some of those other markers are gonna be important for looking at, for hormone production. So it's nice if they include that. So I, I like to do a Dutch, I also like to do HTMA testing, which stands for hair tissue mineral analysis. **Hannah:** Because, you know, you know, when we're looking at hormones it's, you know, we, we also wanna be, look thinking about minerals too because and not just like, our minerals through blood [00:18:00] work, but more on a cellular level. Like what is the body doing with those minerals? And how is your body utilizing them? **Hannah:** Are they even getting up into the cell? So, and we can, you know, you know, minerals, they impact hormones, which means they're gonna impact PCOS. So I like that one too. And it's like a little, it's a, it's a nice way to, I like it 'cause it's, it shows your body's like, it's like a blueprint. It shows you your stress pattern. **Hannah:** know how your body is using minerals after you've maybe gone through a season of. Really high stress and you know, the fertility journey too is so stressful on its own that I'm like, yeah, let's look at what your body does with all this stress and how we can really like, you know, deeply nourish your body and, you know, make it feel safe for ovulation. **Michelle:** Yeah, I know that there's a lot of minerals that you can't really test in blood and for example, magnesium. That's a **Hannah:** Mm-hmm. **Michelle:** one to test for. So does this test for magnesium as well, like all...
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Ep 339 Breathing to Conceive? It Sounds Crazy… Until You Try It
06/03/2025
Ep 339 Breathing to Conceive? It Sounds Crazy… Until You Try It
On today’s solo episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I dive deep into the ancient practice of Pranayama, also known as yogic breathwork, and its profound impact on fertility. Breathwork may sound simple, or even unrelated to fertility, but the connection between your breath, nervous system, and reproductive health is incredibly powerful. In this episode, I explain how specific breathing techniques can shift your body from a state of stress into one of rest and regeneration, promoting hormone balance, improved digestion, and pelvic blood flow all critical components of a healthy fertility journey. You’ll learn practical ways to integrate ancient breathing practices like Nadi Shodhana (alternate nostril breathing), Kapalabhati (breath of fire), Bhastrika (bellows breath), Bhramari (humming bee breath), and Ujjayi breathing into your daily routine. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or simply curious about new tools to support your body naturally, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways: Breathwork regulates the nervous system, supporting hormonal balance and reproductive function. Ancient yogic practices like Pranayama offer free, accessible tools for stress reduction and enhanced vitality. Techniques like alternate nostril breathing and humming bee breath can be easily integrated into your daily life. Breath can help release emotional tension and stimulate vagal tone, a key player in fertility health. Conscious breathing increases oxygenation, supports digestion, and boosts clarity. For more information about Michelle, visit To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: Instagram: Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. Transcript: # TWF: 339 (solo episode) **Michelle:** [00:00:00] Episode number 339 of the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. Welcome back to the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. I'm your host, Michelle Orbitz, and today we're diving into a deeply healing and powerful practice that has stood the test of time. It's called Pranayama or yogic Breath Work. You might be surprised to hear just how much breath work could influence your mind and your nervous system, and then in turn influence your reproductive health. **Michelle:** 'cause we know that the nervous system plays such an important role on reproductive health. So if you wanna find out more about powerful breathing exercises that you can do so easily and they're free, that can influence your nervous system and how you feel. Overall, this episode is for you. **Michelle:** Welcome to the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. I'm Michelle, a [00:01:00] fertility acupuncturist here to provide you with resources on how to create a wholesome approach to your fertility journey. **Michelle:** So, so today I'm going to cover a very interesting topic, which is Pranayama. so this is an ancient Indian or yogi or yo guine practice that has been done for thousands of years. **Michelle:** Pranayama or yogic breath work **Michelle:** is extremely powerful And can really impact the mind and the nervous system. So if you wanna find out more on how to hack your nervous system, and if you've watched some of my earlier videos, I talk a lot about how your nervous system really can influence your fertility health because it gets you into a more rest and digest state. **Michelle:** And it can also influence your inflammation and your digestion and even create more balance in your hormones. So if you are trying to conceive and you wanna [00:02:00] find out how you can really hack your body and mind through pranayama this amazing ancient tradition, this amazing ancient practice, then stay tuned. **Michelle:** So you might be asking yourself, what exactly is pranayama? **Michelle:** So in Sanskrit prana means life force vitality. So it's very similar to what chi in Chinese medicine means, and it's the life force vitality that goes through our body. a yma means control or expansion. **Michelle:** So Pranayama in essence, is the art of controlling your breath to influence the life force vitality in your body. **Michelle:** So it's not just about breathing more deeply though. That's part of it. **Michelle:** It is about becoming aware of how your breathing can influence your hormone balance and your nervous system, **Michelle:** as well as reducing stress. And these are all really important and impactful things when you're trying to conceive. **Michelle:** So, although this [00:03:00] is coming from ancient India, this is something that can control all bodies and all different cultures. and it's one of the many gifts that we get from the ancient Vedas, Which is really linked to Ayurveda and yoga. The yogic tradition is the aspect of the physical, and it's more of the physical therapy aspect of it, but this is all part of really the science of life and how they're perceiving that you're able to, and how they're giving you tools to really access this amazing, intelligent life force that resides in your body. **Michelle:** So just to kind of give you a little bit of an overview. So Prana is very similar to Q, which is Life Force Vitality, and this is basically the life force that we have that is intelligent and that keeps our body warm and that keeps our body functioning. So this is something that really is intelligent because that aspect of our bodies is [00:04:00] what tells ourselves what to do, and it also helps the self-healing mechanism of the body. **Michelle:** And when we're in fight or flight, and I always come back to the nervous system than our body is more worried about survival. And regeneration is not as much of a priority because survival is more important. But what happens when we're in survival is that everything moves towards that survival, and it's not worried about digestion. **Michelle:** It's not worried about inflammation. All the things that are running in the background. And it can also impact your sleep because when you're trying to survive, you can't rest, you can't sleep, you can't afford to, you wanna survive, you wanna be alive. So that's ultimately how the nervous system operates. **Michelle:** But when we're getting that free flow of energy and that we're able to really be enriched with the QI and the life force of Prana, and we're able to get also in a more rest and digest mode, things will flow more easily and they're not gonna be as constricted as it does, as things [00:05:00] do happen with stress. **Michelle:** And ultimately as an acupuncturist, one of the biggest things that I do is I work a lot on pelvic energy flow and blood flow. So when there's more flow in your body, there's more blood flow, there's less constriction. And as we know, many times when people have high blood pressure, you know, your blood vessels are actually. **Michelle:** Muscle and those muscles tighten and it causes more constriction and more pressure. And we know that stress can even impact blood pressure. So that tightening is what happens when we're stressed, and ultimately that tightening is going to block. Impact, as I mentioned with the liberty, which is really its role, is to get that energy to flow. **Michelle:** So one of the ways that we can hack really our minds and our bodies is through pranayama. And today I'm gonna talk about a couple of different. Techniques of breathing that you can do that will [00:06:00] immediately have an impact on how you feel and how the energy and the prana in your body is able to flow, which ultimately will be beneficial not just for your body and your reproduction, but also your mind. **Michelle:** And I'm sure you know that if you are on the fertility journey, it can be very stressful. And when you're stressed, there's been studies that show that when you're stressed, you can't really make a clear minded decision. And as we know, when you're on the fertility journey, you need that decision making aspect of your mind because you are going through a lot of different choices and options that are being thrown at you. **Michelle:** So the first breath that I am going to be sharing with you is called Nadi Shaana, and that is alternate nostril breath. I like to call it the yin and yang pranayama, although that's not really the name, because it balances the yin and the yang in our brain. So both hemispheres of the brain start to function and come [00:07:00] together. **Michelle:** And this is one of the most immediate calming exercises that you can do. And what it does is it basically you alternate sides and you will block one nostril and breathe in, and you can breathe into like the count of four or the count of eight, whatever feels right. But if you slow it also, you'll start to feel a little more peace so you can actually breathe into the count of eight. **Michelle:** Then close both nostrils. So breathe in one nostril, close the right, and breathe in from the left. Breathe in to eight, and then hold both nostrils closed to the count of eight, and then exhale from the right to the count of eight. And then breathe back in from the same one, the right to the count of eight, close both nostrils, and then breathe out from the left and then breathe back in for the count of eight out, eight in hold it.[00:08:00] **Michelle:** So basically just remember one specific count and you're gonna keep doing that and then alternate your nose. Now you're gonna notice that one nostril is going to be a little more clear than the other. And that is actually very normal. Our bodies tend to go more yin and yang throughout the day, so one side will feel one way and the other side will not feel that same way, and you'll find that that will alternate throughout the day. **Michelle:** And that's kind of an interesting thing, but our bodies do alternate and we're constantly getting to this place of homeostasis so that our body can find balance. But through that, we do have those two sides, those dualities, which is why doing something like this can be so powerful. **Michelle:** So by balancing, because our nose is directly opened, you know, the olfactory nerve, which is also the sense is directly linked or connected to the brain. So by alternating those two sides, of [00:09:00] breathing, you are creating that balance from the left and right hemispheres of the brain, and that also can create more clear thinking if you are feeling anxious and it's hard for you to really make a decision. **Michelle:** This is a great exercise to do, and what this also does is activate the parasympathetic nervous system, which is the more rest and digest nervous system. So if you're feeling extra stressed and you wanna slow down your mind, this is amazing. It also improves oxygenation and it also creates more mindfulness. **Michelle:** 'cause as you're doing it, you're being very conscious of how you're breathing and how you're feeling because it is a practice that you have to pay attention while you're doing it. **Michelle:** So you could do this in the beginning of your day and then you can do this at the end of the day. And it could be literally two minutes, two minutes in the morning and two minutes at night. And I think that it is really nice to actually do it in the beginning and end of the day. 'cause you're literally doing it at yin and yang times of your 24 hour cycle. **Michelle:** So it can help you when you [00:10:00] first start to wake up, and then you can help you end the day really nicely and support your nervous system as you go to sleep. So another one that is one of my favorites is called Kati, and that is skull shining breath. Or you may have heard this, called breath of fire. And so ultimately what it is, is working through your diaphragm and after you do it for a while, you literally feel like you are breathing fire. **Michelle:** 'cause you can feel a lot of fire in your diaphragm area. So the area that I'm talking about is really the soft area of your belly that's right underneath your ribs. So you start to feel this, it's kind of like right above, it's between the bottom of your ribs and your belly button, right in that solar plexus in that area. **Michelle:** So you can put your hands there Before I actually go into the description of how to do it, I wanna talk about what it does. Breath of fire is incredible for [00:11:00] digestion and it is one of the more stimulating breaths, and I remember one of my teachers mentioning That there was like a saying that as many breaths as you breathe, that we only have a certain amount of breaths for our life. **Michelle:** And that is why it's important to breathe slow. And the slower we breathe, the longer we can live. And I asked about this one because it's actually a very rapid type of breath, and they said, well, it's considered one breath because it's, you're not fully exhaling. **Michelle:** You're kind of like pumping throughout the whole time that you're doing it. So it's actually considered one breath. It's not considered, many different breaths. **Michelle:** so another thing, the reason why it's called Breath of Fire is because in Ayurvedic medicine, a lot of times they refer to something called Agni, which is our digestif fire. And that justifier, I guess you can say correlates to really our ability to break down foods And really the acid that we have in our stomach that can cook the [00:12:00] food and ultimately the breath of fire. And Agni is very, very important. And sometimes people will have diminished Agni from drinking too much cold or not really eating correctly. And so we don't want that. We wanna actually kindle that fire because when you kindle that fire, it will protect your body, increase your immune system, and also break down foods so that the rest of the digestive system, is able to really assimilate the nutrition from the food. **Michelle:** Another thing that it can do is clear, stagnant energy. And then when stagnant energy gets cleared, then you're getting more flow in the body and Prana is able to really move. So. This is one of the most powerful breaths to really get things moving. And the only thing that I would say with this, and really everything that I'm saying is not medical advice. **Michelle:** And I would also say be cautious. If you are about to do a retrieval, I would not do this breath because they are afraid [00:13:00] of ovarian torsion and this is something that you don't wanna mess with. So, and it is a very powerful and moving type of breath. **Michelle:** But I'd like to compare it to when the Native Americans used fire for brushes, you know, for, to get rid of like old weeds before they created new or planted new seeds. And this is one of those things, you're getting things outta the way, you're burning out the stagnation with this breath in order to get more flow and more new energy coming into the body. **Michelle:** so here's how you do it. So in between the bottom of your ribs and your belly button, so put your hand there and you could put both hands, one on top of the other. And what you do is you forcefully exhale, and you will find that when you do that, you're naturally going to bounce back almost like a rubber band where it just inhales. **Michelle:** By nature. And then you don't worry about the inhale 'cause it's gonna happen automatically and you just keep exhaling and you just [00:14:00] pump with the exhale. So you go and you'll feel that bounce when you have your hand there. And over time you'll find that it can get longer and longer as you practice. **Michelle:** In the beginning, you might get tired sooner and sometimes you might even find that it makes you cough. It is so purifying, it will actually make you cough up old mucus in your lungs. So it is pretty wild how it works. **Michelle:** So the next type of breath is called baa, and that is also called the bellows breath. And this is a little bit more active and I'll describe it so that you understand how to do it. **Michelle:** But first let me explain what it does. **Michelle:** So Bas Rica, very similar to the breath of fire, is also a breath that is very active and it can stoke the internal fire in our bodies. **Michelle:** It also involves very, forceful inhales and exhales. But in this case, you're gonna be [00:15:00] using the arms. **Michelle:** It is considered to activate the Kundalini energy in the body. This is the energy that runs up and down our spine and feeds really all of our organs and body **Michelle:** and supports our body's energetic flow. and it also is considered to have a balancing effect on the doshas. If you've watched my Ayurvedic video, I talk about the different doshas, which are really elements in your body, and this is considered to be a good breath that balances all of that. **Michelle:** It can also boost oxygenation and mental clarity. And how you do it is you raise your arms up and you have your hands out. So your hands are completely open and your arms are just raised up, and you inhale as you do that, And as you exhale, you close your hands and you bring your elbows to the side, so you bring your hands down so you inhale with your hands up. [00:16:00] stretch hands, and then you exhale forcefully as you bring it down, as if you're bringing something down or pulling something towards you from the top to the bottom. **Michelle:** So your elbows basically end up by your side and completely folded with your hands next to your shoulders in a fist. So inhale, bring your hands up. Wide open, exhale really forcefully as your hands go down into a fist next to your shoulders. **Michelle:** So this is kind of related to the breath of fire. There's definitely a lot of heat that will be coming out from it, It is a very good practice to really get that energy moving. If you feel like it's stuck. This is great. If you feel a lot of stress and you feel a lot going on. If you wanna come home and you feel like you've had a very stressful day, this is a great way to break that up. **Michelle:** So lastly, I'm going to cover something called Ari, or. Humming bee breath. **Michelle:** [00:17:00] So actually this breath and the way you're supposed to do it is one thing that we know for sure is a technique that stimulates the vagus nerve. And as we know, the vagus nerve is extremely important when it comes to reproductive health That's because it has so many different functions, and one of them, which is really key, is promoting really good digestive health, lowering inflammation, improving sleep, and on and on. **Michelle:** And it basically helps the body get into a parasympathetic mode. And one of the ways that is known to stimulate your vagus nerve is by humming. So this breath And another thing is that when you do hum on an exhale, you are actually by nature because you're using your voice, you slow down your breath. **Michelle:** So this is a great way to slow down your breath as you are exhaling. **Michelle:** So this can also reduce any emotional tension And it could also reduce heart rate and blood pressure. **Michelle:** so what you do for [00:18:00] this breath is inhale, fully hold it at the top, and then exhale with a humming sound. So. **Michelle:** And then you just breathe all the way out. So as you'll notice when you're humming, you actually slow down your breath, so it naturally slows down your breath, which has an immediate impact on any kind of state of anxiety. It will really calm your mind. So this is an amazing thing to do, and you can really do this while you're driving. **Michelle:** Just keep your eyes open for obvious reasons, But you could do this even while you're driving. If you're driving to a doctor's office and you're feeling really nervous, you can do that. a lot...
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Ep 338 Eggs, Estrogen & Empowerment: Navigating Fertility with Dr. Nirali Jain
05/27/2025
Ep 338 Eggs, Estrogen & Empowerment: Navigating Fertility with Dr. Nirali Jain
On this episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by Dr. Nirali Jain (), a board-certified OB/GYN and reproductive endocrinologist at Reproductive Medical Associates (RMA). Dr. Jain shares her expert insights on fertility preservation for individuals undergoing cancer treatment, a crucial yet often overlooked aspect of reproductive care. We explore what options are available for fertility preservation, including egg and sperm freezing, and why it’s so important to initiate these discussions before starting chemotherapy or radiation. Dr. Jain also explains the difference between Letrozole and Clomid, the impact of estrogen-sensitive cancers on IVF treatments, and innovative approaches like random-start cycles and DuoStim protocols. Whether you're facing a cancer diagnosis or simply thinking proactively about your reproductive future, this conversation is filled with knowledge and reassurance. Key Takeaways: Why it’s essential to discuss fertility before starting cancer treatment. The role of Letrozole in estrogen-sensitive cancers and fertility preservation. Differences between Letrozole and Clomid, and why Letrozole is often preferred. How new protocols like DuoStim and random-start cycles are improving outcomes. Why fertility preservation is important even for those without a cancer diagnosis. Guest Bio: Dr. Nirali Jain (@) is a board-certified OB/GYN and fertility specialist at Reproductive Medicine Associates (RMA) in Basking Ridge, New Jersey. She earned both her undergraduate degree in neurobiology (with a minor in dance!) and her medical degree from Northwestern University, before completing her residency at Weill Cornell/NYP, where she served as co-Chief Resident, and her fellowship in reproductive endocrinology and infertility at NYU Langone. Deeply passionate about women’s health and fertility preservation, Dr. Jain blends the latest research and cutting-edge treatments with compassionate, patient-centered care. Her interests include third-party reproduction and oncofertility, and she is especially passionate about supporting patients navigating fertility preservation through a cancer diagnosis. Outside of the clinic, Dr. Jain is a trained dancer, a dedicated global traveler, and an adventurer working toward hiking all seven continents with her husband. Her diverse experiences, from international medical rotations to personal connections with friends and family navigating infertility, have shaped her into a warm, resourceful, and determined advocate for her patients. Links and Resources: ----------------------------- For more information about Michelle, visit To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle’s book at: The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: Instagram: Facebook: Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. -- Transcript: # TWF-Jain-Nirali (Video) [00:00:00] **Michelle Oravitz:** Welcome to the podcast Jain. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Thanks so much for having me **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah, so. **Michelle Oravitz:** I'm very excited to talk about this topic, which, um, actually you don't really hear a lot of people talking about, which is how to preserve your fertility if you're going through a cancer diagnosis and if you have to go through treatments. 'cause obviously that can impact a lot on fertility. **Michelle Oravitz:** I have, um, seen actually like a colleague of mine go through. And she also preserved her fertility and, and now she has a baby boy. so it's really nice. **Michelle Oravitz:** to **riverside\_nirali\_jain\_raw-video-cfr\_michelle\_oravitz's \_0181:** so nice. **Michelle Oravitz:** So I'd love for you first to introduce yourself and kind Of give us a background on how you got into this work. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Of course. Um, so I am Dr. Narly Jane. I am, um, an OB GYN by training, and then I did an additional, after completing four years of residency in OB GYN and getting board certified in that, I did an additional training in reproductive endocrinology and [00:01:00] infertility or otherwise known as REI. So now I'm a fertility specialist. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um, I trained at Northwestern in Chicago, so I went to undergrad and medical school there. And then, um, home has always been New Jersey for me, so I moved back out east to New Jersey. Um, I did all my training actually in New York City at Cornell for residency and NYU for fellowship. Um, and then moved to the suburbs. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um, and now I'm a fertility specialist in, in Basking Ridge at Reproductive Medical Associates. **Michelle Oravitz:** Very impressive background. That's awesome. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** I'd love to hear just really. About what your process is. If a person has been diagnosed with cancer, like what is the process? What are some of the things that you address if they are trying to preserve fertility, and what are some of the concerns going **Dr. Nirali Jain:** yeah, yeah. All great questions. So, you know, there's a lot of us, uh, the Reis. Are a very small, [00:02:00] there's a very small number of us. So in terms of specializing in fertility preservation, technically we all are certified to treat patients with cancer and kind of move them through fertility preservation before starting chemotherapy. **Michelle Oravitz:** Mm-hmm. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um, luckily we've been working closely with oncologists in the past several years just to establish some type of streamlined system because having a diagnosis of cancer and hearing all that information. Especially when you're young is so hard. So I think that's, that's where my interest started in terms of being able to speak to and counsel cancer patients. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** I think it is a very specific niche that you really have to be comfortable with in our field. Um, I. So I'll kind of walk you through, you know, what it, what does it look like, right? Um, you go into your oncologist's office suspecting that you have this, this lump. I'll take breast cancer, for example. It could really be any kind of cancer. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um, but breast cancer in a reproductive age patient or someone that's in those years where you're starting [00:03:00] to think about building a family, planning a family, um, or if you have kids at home, that's usually the type of patient that we see come in with a breast cancer diagnosis. So. Kinda just taking that, for example, um, the minute that you're diagnosed, it's really your oncologist's responsibility to counsel you on what treatment options are going to be offered to you. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** And then based off of the treatment options, it's important to know how that affects your reproduction. So how does it affect your ovaries in the short term, in the long term, um, in any way possible. So. Once a patient is initially referred from their oncologist to myself or any other fertility specialist, they come into my office and we just have a 30 minute conversation really talking about family planning goals. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Any kids that they've had in the past either naturally conceived or through um, IVF, and then we talk about where they're at in their relationship. Are they married, are they not? Are they with a partner, [00:04:00] a male partner, a female partner, whatever it might be. It's important to know the social standpoint, um, especially in this sensitive phase of life. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So patient patients usually spend anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour. Um, just kind of talking through where they're at, how they're feeling, what their ultimate childbearing goals are. And then from there we do an ultrasound and that's when I'm really able to see, you know, the, the reproductive status. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So what do the ovaries look like? What does the uterus look like? Is there something that I need to be concerned about from a baseline GYN standpoint? Um, and all of those conversations are happening in real time. So. I think one of the things is patients come in and they're like, I'm already so overwhelmed with all this information from my oncologist, and now my fertility specialist is throwing all this information at me. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Luckily, the way I like to frame it is you come in and you just let go. Like you let us do the work because in the background we're the ones talking to your oncologist. We're the [00:05:00] ones giving that feedback and creating a timeline with your oncologist. Um, and really I think just getting in the door is the hardest part. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So once patients are here to see us, we go through the whole workup. We do anything that we would do for a normal patient that came in for fertility preservation. And then based off of where they're at in their journey, we talk about what makes sense for them, whether that means freezing embryos, freezing eggs, they're very similar in terms of the, the few weeks leading up to the egg retrievals. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So I have that whole conversation just at the initial visit. And then from there we talk about the timeline behind the scenes and make sure that it works with their lives before moving forward. **Michelle Oravitz:** So for people listening to this, why, and this might be an obvious question, but to some it might not be, **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Mm-hmm. **Michelle Oravitz:** why would somebody want to preserve. eggs or sperm. 'cause I've had actually some couples **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yep. **Michelle Oravitz:** come to me where the husband preserved the sperm and they had to go through IVF just because he was going [00:06:00] through cancer treatments. So he had to preserve the sperm ahead of time. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Mm-hmm. **Michelle Oravitz:** people need to consider doing that before doing cancer treatments? **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So there are certain cancer treatments that do affect the ovaries and the sperm health, and you know, for men and women, it affects your reproductive organs. In a similar way, um, depending on the type of chemotherapeutic agent, there are some that are more dangerous in terms of, um, being toxic to your ovaries or toxic to your sperm. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** And those are the instances where we are really thinking about what's the long-term impact because there's medications that oncologists do give patients, and our oncologists are amazing, the ones that we work with, Memorial Sloan Kettering from Reproductive Medical Associates through RMA, um, and. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** They're just so good at what they do and are so well-trained, so they know in the back of their mind, is this going to impact your ovaries or your sperm health or not? Um, and I [00:07:00] think that any chemotherapy, you know, your ovaries are these, these small organs that are constantly turning over follicles every month. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So every month we're losing those eggs, and if they don't become. If an egg isn't ovulated, it doesn't become a baby, it's just gonna die off. So I counsel even patients that don't have cancer, I counsel them on fertility preservation as young as possible. You know, between the ages of 28 and 35, that's like the best time to preserve your fertility. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So in cancer patients, there's an extra level added to that where even if they are a little bit younger, a little bit older. Your eggs are not gonna be the same quality. There's gonna be higher level of chromosomal errors, more DNA breakage, um, and, and bigger issues that lead to issues with conceiving naturally afterwards. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So I think that it's important to consider how that chemotherapy is going to affect them or how surgery would affect them if it was, for example, a GYN cancer where [00:08:00] we're removing a whole ovary, you know, what, what do we have to do to preserve your fertility in that case? And those are important conversations to have. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. for sure. I know that a lot of people are also concerned, you know, with going through the IVF process, you're taking in a lot of estrogen, a lot of hormones, and many cancers are actually estrogen sensitive. So I wanted to talk to you about that. 'cause I know that the data shows that it's. It's been fine, which some people might find surprising, but I wanted you to address that and just kind of **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** from your perspective. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** That's so interesting that you asked that question because I actually, my whole I I graduated fellowship last year and my entire, like passion project in fellowship was looking at one of the drugs that we use to suppress the estrogen levels specifically in cancer patients. Um, and I had presented this at a few of our reproductive meetings. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um, A SRM is one of our annual meetings where all of the reiss get together. A lot of male fertility [00:09:00] specialists come and we kinda just talk about. Specific things and fertility preservation for cancer patients is, has been an ongoing topic of interest for all of us. Um, and it's important to know that there are different medications that we can offer. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Letrozole is the one that I, um, have a particular love for and I, uh, you know, I use all the time for my patients, um, for different reasons, but it suppresses the exposure that your body has to estrogen. And there's mixed data, um, out there in terms of, you know, does Letrozole suppression actually impact, you know, does it help or. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Or does it have no impact on your future risk of cancer after treatment? Um, and that honestly is still up for debate. But what we do know is that there's no increased risk of cancer recurrence in patients that have undergone fertility preservation with or without Letrozole. Um, Letrozole is one of those things that we can give, and the way it works is basically. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** It masks that [00:10:00] conversion. It, it doesn't allow for conversion from those androgens in the male hormones over to estrogen. Um, and so your body doesn't really see that estrogen exposure. It stays nice and low throughout your cycle, and it does help with actually ovarian maturation and getting mature eggs harvested and, um, helps a little bit with, with quality too. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** So I think that it's really nice in terms of having that available to us, but know that. It's not, it's not essential that you have it, really, the data showing plus minus. Um, but there are certain things that we can do to protect the ovaries, protect your exposure to estrogen. Um, and so that shouldn't be top of mind of concern when we're going through fertility preservation, even with an estrogen sensitive cancer. **Michelle Oravitz:** Actually, so, uh, on a different topic, kind of going back to that, so Letrozole versus Clomid, I, it's like a, the questions I personally feel just based on what I've heard and like my own research that Letrozole would be kind of like the more. [00:11:00] Um, the, it's, it's a little better, but I know that it really depends on the person as well. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** they might do better with Clom, but I'd love to hear your perspective and kind of pick your brain on this. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** totally. You're choosing all the, all the right questions because these are all of my, my specific interests and niches. So **Michelle Oravitz:** Oh, **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Letrozole is basically, you know, we use Letrozole and Clomid in. Patients that don't have cancer and patients that come in for an intrauterine insemination, that's kind of the most common scenario where we're thinking about, you know, which medication is better? **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Letrozole or Clomid and Clomid used to be the, the most common medication that we use, we dose patients, you know, have 50 milligrams of Clomid, give them five days of the medication. It's an oral pill. Feels really easy and. The way it works is really, it recruits more than one follicle, so it really helps with the release of, um, more than one follicle growing more than one follicle in the ovary. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um, but it has a little bit [00:12:00] higher of a risk of twins because that's exactly what it's good at. Um, Clomid, not so much in the cancer. In the cancer front, it's not really used there because it's considered, from a scientific perspective, it's considered like a selective estrogen receptor modulator. So it doesn't necessarily suppress your estrogen levels in the same way that Letrozole does versus. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Letrozole is an aromatase inhibitor, so it really blocks the chemical conversion of one drug or one hormone to the other hormone. Um, the reason we love Letrozole so much, and I don't mean to like gush over Letrozole, but um, it's a mono follicular agent, so it works really well at recruiting one follicle **Michelle Oravitz:** Mm-hmm. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** you know, every OB-GYN's nightmare in a way is having multiples when you didn't intend on having multiples at all. **Michelle Oravitz:** so **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um. **Michelle Oravitz:** were saying that, um, there's more of a chance of twins, it's Clomid, not letrozole. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yes, there's a higher chance with Clomid versus Letrozole. And I mean, don't get me wrong, there's a chance of twins with [00:13:00] any type of assisted reproductive technology. Even when we're doing single embryo transfers, there's a chance that it's gonna split. So, um, the chance is always there just like it is in the natural world. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** But we know for a fact that. CLO is really good at recruiting many follicles. It's good for certain patients that don't respond well to Letrozole. Um, but Letrozole is kind of our, our go-to drug these days just because of all the benefits that we've seen. **Michelle Oravitz:** Awesome. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** These are all fun things to ask because I, I love talking to our eis 'cause there's so much information that I'm always **Dr. Nirali Jain:** totally. **Michelle Oravitz:** learn a lot from my patients in my own research, but it's really cool. Picking your guys' brains. So another question I have, and I have actually talked to Dr. Andrea Elli, he's been on, **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Mm-hmm. **Michelle Oravitz:** and he does a lot of endometriosis and, and immune related work as well, **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** so. I'd love to know just from your perspective. One thing that I do know from, based on what I've heard is that the, [00:14:00] guess like you were just saying, that breast cancer or estrogen sensitive breast cancer doesn't seem to be affected by IVF cycles, however, and endometriosis lesions do get affected. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Yeah. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** that's a great question. So, you know, every, there are so many complex G mind diagnoses that the, that our patients come in with. Um, and endometriosis is a big one because there is clear data that endometriosis is linked to infertility. So we think about, you know, when a patient comes in with endometriosis, we really do think about the different treatment options and what are the short-term and long-term impacts of the hormones that we're giving 'em. **Dr. Nirali Jain:** Um, these days, again, kind of going back to Letrozole, we, letrozole is something that I give all of my endometriosis patients because it helps suppress their estrogen because we know. ...
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